whopping cough causing panic

babybalooga

So, I took DS to get his shot at the Dr's yesterday (we are doing one at a time)....and they told me they are expediting all of the DTAP vaccinations so that the babies can be fully vaccinated asap. They want me to bring DS in two weeks to get his second dose because it will be a month from the first. They said this is the main vaccine they are concerned about right now. They told me to basically keep DS away from areas where he may be exposed until he has had all 3 doses and they want me to come in early in the morning so that there is no one else in the lobby that could potentially expose him. Kind of scary! Now, I feel like I cannot bring LO anywhere...how are you feeling about this? I really want to keep LO safe and I can't help but notice when people are coughing in public and it makes me feel nervous....Is it so hard for adults to get their DTAP shots to protect the most vulnerable in our society. My friend has kids who aren't vaccinated at all (they are 4 and 2) and it makes me feel like I shouldn't hang out with her because her kids might expose my LO to. Are you worried?

StrawberryAlarmClock

Woah. I wasn't, but now I am. If you don't mind sharing, what part of the country are you in?

babybalooga

I live in the Central California area (near San Jose)...but they say they are expediting the vaccine schedule across California and potentially other places

baby_tar_heel

Hmmm that sounds like the doctor might be freaking you out unnecessarily!  My doctor isn't pressing us about it at all...he has recommended that we delay all shots until 9 mo or later due to some complications from an infection that we both had when he was a newborn that lingered for a while.  However he didn't mention that we should be worried about catching anything and didn't say we should change our normal routine.  He said he would be more worried if my son was in daycare but just being out and about on a normal day to day basis he said the risk of exposure is minimal.  I wouldn't get stressed out about it.  Although yes, it is true that there have been more cases of whooping cough lately and yes, babies have died from it...remember the swine flu freak out just 1 year ago???   People kind of over-reacted re: the swine flu.

storybooklove

we go on sat. for our next visit/shots. I'm going to ask if there are any shot that we as parents should get. There are commercials all over the place for the cough, but I heard the real outbreak is in Cali, although I do understand that ppl travel, just like how the swine flu got here from mexico etc. so I'll see what the doc says.

I got the swine and reg flu sot last yr when I was preg. I plan to get it again this year, and LO if available.

*LrCg*

I'm not worried.  I breastfeed and breastfeeding is actually more effective than preventing whopping cough than the vaccine.  In fact, of all the vaccines, the DTAP shot is the least effective (I believe its @60% where breastfeeding is 80%). And my doctor isn't pushing the shots outside the regular schedule.

ablou

StarAnnice:

"Pertussis has reached an epidemic level in California. For the first six months of this year, 1,337 cases of pertussis were reported, a five-fold increase from the same period last year when 258 cases were reported. In addition, approximately 700 possible cases of pertussis are under investigation.

 

Five infants, all under three months of age, have died from pertussis this year. Unimmunized or incompletely immunized young infants are particularly vulnerable." : https://www.knx1070.com/CDPH-Broadens-Recommendations-for-Pertussis-Vaccin/7724409

 

Educate yourselves: https://www.soundsofpertussis.com/

 

This is not something to blow off.

Exactly!  It's because of damn dirty hippies NOT vaccinating that the friggin' whooping cough (yes, peaches, that's TWO "o"s, we don't get malted milk ball coughs) is back! :::headkeyboard:::

Vaccinate your children. Protect them.  Quit being selfish morons. 

simplyatomic

*LrCg*:

I'm not worried.  I breastfeed and breastfeeding is actually more effective than preventing whopping cough than the vaccine.  In fact, of all the vaccines, the DTAP shot is the least effective (I believe its @60% where breastfeeding is 80%). And my doctor isn't pushing the shots outside the regular schedule.

I know that boob juice is liquid gold and all but it wont protect your baby from Whooping cough. I found this:

 Breastfed babies still need immunizations. Breastfeeding is a baby?s first immunization and is the best nutrition for a baby. Breastfeeding is not a substitute for immunization. Breastfeeding and immunizations work together to protect your baby

I totally support it if you are delaying or not vaxing because of personal reasons but because you think your breast milk will save your baby from whooping cough is something I can't understand.

sunflowergrl

simplyatomic:

*LrCg*:

I'm not worried.  I breastfeed and breastfeeding is actually more effective than preventing whopping cough than the vaccine.  In fact, of all the vaccines, the DTAP shot is the least effective (I believe its @60% where breastfeeding is 80%). And my doctor isn't pushing the shots outside the regular schedule.

I know that boob juice is liquid gold and all but it wont protect your baby from Whooping cough. I found this:

 Breastfed babies still need immunizations. Breastfeeding is a baby?s first immunization and is the best nutrition for a baby. Breastfeeding is not a substitute for immunization. Breastfeeding and immunizations work together to protect your baby

I totally support it if you are delaying or not vaxing because of personal reasons but because you think your breast milk will save your baby from whooping cough is something I can't understand.

I BF, so I don't buckle DD into her carseat when we go places.  My magic boobjuice will save her from everything!!!!!

melissainabq

baby_tar_heel:

Hmmm that sounds like the doctor might be freaking you out unnecessarily!  ...  People kind of over-reacted re: the swine flu.

You are a moron. Do you have any idea how many lives were affected by that disease? My 27 year-old sister, who was perfectly healthy before she got it, died from it. 

ablou

simplyatomic:

*LrCg*:

I'm not worried.  I breastfeed and breastfeeding is actually more effective than preventing whopping cough than the vaccine.  In fact, of all the vaccines, the DTAP shot is the least effective (I believe its @60% where breastfeeding is 80%). And my doctor isn't pushing the shots outside the regular schedule.

I know that boob juice is liquid gold and all but it wont protect your baby from Whooping cough. I found this:

 Breastfed babies still need immunizations. Breastfeeding is a baby?s first immunization and is the best nutrition for a baby. Breastfeeding is not a substitute for immunization. Breastfeeding and immunizations work together to protect your baby

I totally support it if you are delaying or not vaxing because of personal reasons but because you think your breast milk will save your baby from whooping cough is something I can't understand.

Amen, mama... except I don't support the decision to delay or not to vaccinate.  I think that it's selfish, unsanitary, and borderline criminal.   Because of the nonvaccination movement, whooping cough is back, measles is coming back, polio is returning, as is smallpox.  It's like the 1930s all over again.  I"m all for vintage & retro... just not this sh!t.

AdamsMom4

*LrCg*:

I'm not worried.  I breastfeed and breastfeeding is actually more effective than preventing whopping cough than the vaccine.  In fact, of all the vaccines, the DTAP shot is the least effective (I believe its @60% where breastfeeding is 80%). And my doctor isn't pushing the shots outside the regular schedule.

Seriously? Like StarAnnice and a couple of others said...educate yourself. 

bakedlaurabean

I live in the same area as the OP and my Dr hasn't said anything about it. We are getting DS vaccinated, but only a couple vaccines at a time, so a slightly delayed schedule. Perhaps he would say something if we weren't planning on getting DS vaccinated at all? He's not pushing for us to get the vaccine any faster than usual, though.

jmrussell03

A. Although I am in a different part of the country, my pedi is not concerned at all. He said that it is being blown out of proportion in some areas and if DS has received his vacs on schedule, we shouldn't be too worried. I was concerned cause DH hasn't had his updated and he said to get it done for sure but there was no rush (I wanted to take it home to vac him that day). A cousins little girl just had it so I was really worried but he said it would be fine.B. If the vacs are just as effective given at decreased intervals, then why not always give them in a smaller time frame and not spread across 18 months? It seems like this might not be safe.C. I have done no research whatsoever on the current outbreak of whooping cough and will not claim to be a resource on this topic. I just repeat what my pedi said but was planning on confirming it with an infectious disease MD this week.

ToledoDeux

*LrCg*:

I'm not worried.  I breastfeed and breastfeeding is actually more effective than preventing whopping cough than the vaccine.  In fact, of all the vaccines, the DTAP shot is the least effective (I believe its @60% where breastfeeding is 80%). And my doctor isn't pushing the shots outside the regular schedule.

 Oh, for sure.  I take Molly when I volunteer at the leper colony....but only if she's got a boob in her mouth!  Can't be too careful, right?!?

sar17

ablou:

StarAnnice:

"Pertussis has reached an epidemic level in California. For the first six months of this year, 1,337 cases of pertussis were reported, a five-fold increase from the same period last year when 258 cases were reported. In addition, approximately 700 possible cases of pertussis are under investigation.

 

Five infants, all under three months of age, have died from pertussis this year. Unimmunized or incompletely immunized young infants are particularly vulnerable." : https://www.knx1070.com/CDPH-Broadens-Recommendations-for-Pertussis-Vaccin/7724409

 

Educate yourselves: https://www.soundsofpertussis.com/

 

This is not something to blow off.

Exactly!  It's because of damn dirty hippies NOT vaccinating that the friggin' whooping cough (yes, peaches, that's TWO "o"s, we don't get malted milk ball coughs) is back! :::headkeyboard:::

Vaccinate your children. Protect them.  Quit being selfish morons. 

lol, its here in texas also so i've moved around some shots on the schedule to include the dtap first

lite-bright

I'm not overly worried -- but we're near Boulder, which has a sizeable non-vax crowd and also has relatively high rates of pertussis. Both our girls were born in Boulder, actually, and when DD2 was born, they really pushed me to get a DTaP booster even though I'd gotten all my vax updated before we TTC DD1. 

They were obviously concerned about a resurgence of whooping cough and wanted me to get the vax as a way to help protect DD2. I went ahead and got it; DH still hasn't gotten his booster, though. :P 

We don't have any actual outbreaks that I know of, though, so it's not quite the same situation as in CA.  

lulupinkerton

sunflowergrl:

simplyatomic:

*LrCg*:

I'm not worried.  I breastfeed and breastfeeding is actually more effective than preventing whopping cough than the vaccine.  In fact, of all the vaccines, the DTAP shot is the least effective (I believe its @60% where breastfeeding is 80%). And my doctor isn't pushing the shots outside the regular schedule.

I know that boob juice is liquid gold and all but it wont protect your baby from Whooping cough. I found this:

 Breastfed babies still need immunizations. Breastfeeding is a baby?s first immunization and is the best nutrition for a baby. Breastfeeding is not a substitute for immunization. Breastfeeding and immunizations work together to protect your baby

I totally support it if you are delaying or not vaxing because of personal reasons but because you think your breast milk will save your baby from whooping cough is something I can't understand.

I BF, so I don't buckle DD into her carseat when we go places.  My magic boobjuice will save her from everything!!!!!

You are my hero!  I never thought of it that way.  I'm just going to ditch the car seat all together now that LO can sit up.

*LrCg*

WOW- you guys are calling me uneducated, its apparent you cannot read.  Where in my post did I say it was 100% effective?  Where in my post did I say I do or do not vaccinate?  I simply stated a fact- the DTAP shot is only 60% effective in preventing whopping cough.  By breastfeeding its 80% effective (apparently some of you don't understand that 80% is 20% short of 100%- so it means breastmilk isn't the cure all and I'm not sure how breastfeeding can assist in MVA.  Breastfeeding is for health reasons not safety reasons- clearly you need an education).  Because of that reason, my doctor nor I have concerns about changing the vaccine schedule.  The OP asked if anyone was nervous about it and I was simply stating no I'm not nervous and my reason why.

jennyandty

*LrCg*:

WOW- you guys are calling me uneducated, its apparent you cannot read.  Where in my post did I say it was 100% effective?  Where in my post did I say I do or do not vaccinate?  I simply stated a fact- the DTAP shot is only 60% effective in preventing whopping cough.  By breastfeeding its 80% effective (apparently some of you don't understand that 80% is 20% short of 100%- so it means breastmilk isn't the cure all and I'm not sure how breastfeeding can assist in MVA.  Breastfeeding is for health reasons not safety reasons- clearly you need an education).  Because of that reason, my doctor nor I have concerns about changing the vaccine schedule.  The OP asked if anyone was nervous about it and I was simply stating no I'm not nervous and my reason why.

 

 

Where did you find this info?   

ToledoDeux

*LrCg*:

WOW- you guys are calling me uneducated, its apparent you cannot read.  Where in my post did I say it was 100% effective?  Where in my post did I say I do or do not vaccinate?  I simply stated a fact- the DTAP shot is only 60% effective in preventing whopping cough.  By breastfeeding its 80% effective (apparently some of you don't understand that 80% is 20% short of 100%- so it means breastmilk isn't the cure all and I'm not sure how breastfeeding can assist in MVA.  Breastfeeding is for health reasons not safety reasons- clearly you need an education).  Because of that reason, my doctor nor I have concerns about changing the vaccine schedule.  The OP asked if anyone was nervous about it and I was simply stating no I'm not nervous and my reason why.

Getting the pertussis vaccine confers 59-89% protection from contracting it.  And those who do still contract it after being vaccinated will have a less severe form of the illness.  I am dumbfounded that a parent would choose not to vaccinate their kid with this one.

I'm curious where you got the 80% figure with regard to the protection of breastfeeding.  I've never seen it, and can't verify it from any reputable source.