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Circumcision
Okay, I saw a post on another board about this. IF you have a boy, what are you going to do and why?
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Re: Circumcision
He'll be snipped and look like his dad.
I dated an uncut guy and it completely grossed me out/turned me off to see it when he wasn't 'happy.'
DD - February 2011
In what way? Sorry, I don't get this argument. If you can teach your child to clean his penis he will be fine.
I think all of you are valid in your views. I'm on the fence about it. DH isn't circ'd but when I asked him about it he said that he would probably want our baby circ'd if it's a boy.
That last sentence sounds stupid when I re-read it since if it's a girl, we obviously won't have this issue but I'm too lazy to retype it.
My son is, and if I have another boy, he will be, too.
I took human pathophysiology in college and learned that the risk of infection is much lower for circumsised penises. It also lowers the risk not only for infections, but for penile cancer. Ummm... I came from a family that doesn't have that done and being in that class it changed my opinion on that.
here is more info from website https://www.circinfo.net/
"Circumcision has socio-sexual benefits and reduces sexual problems with age and diabetes. It has no adverse effect on penile sensitivity, erectile function, or sensation during sexual arousal and is reported to enhance the sexual experience for men. Most women prefer the circumcised penis for appearance, hygiene, lower infection risk and sexual activity. At least half of all uncircumcised males will develop one or more problems over their lifetime caused by their foreskin, and many will suffer and die as a result. The benefits exceed the risks by over 100 to 1, and if fatalities are taken into account in men and their sexual partners the benefit is orders of magnitude higher than this. Given the convincing epidemiological evidence and biological support, routine circumcision should be highly recommended by all health professionals."
i had a few girlfriend's who would always get yeast infections and UTI's due to the bacteria build up in the foreskin...her doc told her it doesn't matter how clean the guy, bacteria can and will build up.
I am European and an uncircumcised penis is the norm. I don't think Europe has any widespread health problems caused by that. Ahem. And to cut off a body part because it didn't look "nice" when the penis wasn't "happy," umm...seriously?
I consider it mutilation. We don't do stuff like that to girls (well in this country at least), so why do it to boys?
Obviously our DS isn't circed even though DH is. DH also was completely against it. I don't think "not looking like his dad" will ever be an issue.
And per my OB (not sure where she got it from), the national circumcision rate is on the decline.
this.
it's not cutting off a body part. it's trimming extra skin.
think of it as a large skin tag.
wow-great info! thanks for posting!
Yes, seriously. I also believe in plastic surgery. I even believe in having moles removed as preventative measures from skin cancer and for aesthetic reasons as well. I would not have married DH if he was uncut. I tried it with my ex and it was revolting (not the reason I dumped him though). I don't want my potential son to be that kid that gets made fun of in the locker room either. There are lots of women like me who are repulsed by an uncut d!ck and I don't want my son to repulse women when he gets to that age.
Also, cleanliness is an issue as well and the PP is right, no matter how clean they keep it bacteria (smegma, aka *** cheese) builds up (and it can smell really bad). I did not know about the penile cancer risk decreasing with circumcision but there is just one more reason I'm all for it.
the locker room thing stood out to me. when DH and i were discussing it, he said growing up there was one boy that they knew of who wasn't circumcised and the guys gave him HELL for it and the poor kid was made fun of every single day. i don't want that for my son, ever.
As I said, I am from Europe and spent almost my entire life there. I have never heard of these arguments (coming from Europeans) that some Americans are bringing forth. I had several partners before DH and NEVER had any bad experiences or found that they smelled bad. The same holds true for my friends.
Again, it's called hygiene. Just fold the skin back, wipe, wash, use soap, whatever, and it will get clean. Smegma, yep women can get that too if they are too lazy to shower.
And yes, I do believe in aesthetic surgery as well, but not on infants that can't make their own decision yet! As for UTIs in uncirced infant boys, we haven't had any issues with that at all and neither have my friends that have uncirced baby boys...but obviously I can't speak for a large group.
In Canada at least, the circumcision rate is way down. I forget the stats (and can't find them at the moment), but it's at least 50/50 now.
I'm not saying that you should have had your boy snipped. My ex was kinda mad his mom didn't get him done though and didn't have the money to have it done himself. I was simply defending my valid reasons for DH's and my decision to circumcise any sons we may have. Even if I never had dated a guy like my ex I would still choose this because I know it decreases the risk for certain infections and diseases (not everything can be prevented with with soap). Men who are uncirced are more likely to get various stds and no I do not know why or what stds specifically.
DH is uncircumcised and when I asked him about his locker room experiences he said no one ever mentioned anything about it. I think nowadays kids would get made fun of for checking out someone's package more than the state of the package.
Where we live, the rate is at about 50% anyway and dropping all the time so by your own logic your son would be more likely to be made fun of for being circumcised.
Also, I have not had one yeast infection since DH and I have been together. And his penis is quite clean, no buildup of any kind.
Seriously, so glad you are on this board, lol.
I was probably going to end up looking it up anyway even though we've already made our decision.
Wouldn't condoms be more effective than circumcision though? (I'm not being snarky... I haven't done a ton of research yet).
No worries, I didn't take it that way. I appreciate that you stated your opinion, as I stated mine. At the end of the day, it remains a very personal decision. I am obviously a bit passionate about it but I'm not a mean person.
Lol. That all goes without saying.
I didn't circ my son and wouldn't circ another boy. That's a lot of pain to put a baby through for a cosmetic procedure, IMO, and I don't think the "medical" arguments hold water as most of Europe is not circ'd and doesn't seem to suffer from a rash of infections or whatever.
As for the "look like Dad" argument, ask your DH how much time he's spent thinking about his Dad's penis.
ETA: I'm pretty sure his penis will always be the cleanest part of his body as he already pays it more attention than anything else.
i highly doubt that, thanks for trying though.
you do realize the area is numbed and the baby feels nothing, right? my son was circumcised at 3 weeks old and he didn't even flinch, let alone cry. and we gave him one dose of tylenol and after his afternoon nap that day, he was good as new and 100% back to his normal self.
If we have a boy, we will get him circ'ed.
My sister married an older man and he was having this problem where his foreskin actually began to enclose and harden around his penis to the point where he couldn't actually fold it back. He had to get circ'ed as a result, at age 45. He was extremely embarrassed and said it was horribly, horribly painful. No thanks.
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If we have a boy, he will be circ'd for cleanliness, decrease of infection, etc. It would be terrible to have to get it done older for some reason (as some PPs have posted).
As for the pain, I have assisted with multiple circs at work. The babies cry more at the beginning when you are restraining their arms and legs. After they are numb and get their sugar water and pacifiers, they are usually fine.
I've taken care of quite a few men who have needed a circumcision later in life. I do wonder if it is more painful and take more of an emotional toll when you have this done in your 20's, 30's, or even your 70's and 80's.
I dated a guy who would often pick/pull at his foreskin; it "itched" him.
actually, they don't do a whole lot of numbing before a circumcision. They don't flinch because it is SO painful to their systems, they don't even know how to react.
I'm still undecided. I know a lot of the merits of non-circing...but I also used to work in a hospital and have seen how horribly painful care can be for a man in a nursing home with poor hygiene.
That said, there is A LOT, and I mean A LOT of misinformation in this thread, and I suggest a lot of research before making your decision.
And cutting off the foreskin is more akin to cutting off a clitoris than it is "extra skin".
Where I work they do numb them. And for it being SO painful that they don't know how to react, they sure enjoy sucking calmly on their pacifiers...I'm glad your employer numbs. It's not common. But I'm glad those babies are numbed. They should be. While I still haven't decided what we would do, I think it's barbaric to do it without.