My RE has never mentioned this to me and I suspect it is because I have no symptoms of endo or other issues. Just wondering if this is something I should suggest to him. I don't know what to do, I've never been pregnant so I am wondering if there is an internal issue I don't know about (We've done testing except lap).
Why did you have a lap?
What symptoms (if any) did you have in order for your RE to recommend a lap?
Re: Those who have had a lap please come in
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My first RE never suggested a lap before doing IUIs b/c I had no symptoms of endo. After the IUIs didn't work, he didn't suggest a lap b/c even if you do find endo, the most effective way to get pregnant still is IVF, and I was doing IVF anyway. After my first IVF didn't work, my RE said that studies show increased implantation after a lap in women who had previously undetected endo. He said however he didn't suggest doing one after only 1 failed IVF, b/c it could have gone wrong for so many other reasons. However, if my second IVF doesn't work (praying that it does!), I would do a lap.
Here's the article about the study:
https://www.endometriosis.org/research-laparoscopy-for-fertility.html
TTC in 2008. Stage II/III endo, Hashimotos hypothyroid, low morph (3%).
2 cycles Clomid/Ovidrel/TI/Crinone=BFN.
IUI #1 - 4 Follistim/Ovidrel/IUI/Crinone = BFN.
IVF #1 - Antagonist w/ ICSI 4/10. 17 retrieved, 5DT of 2, BFN
IVF #2 - Long Lupron w/ ICSI 6/10. 15 retrieved, 3DT of 2, BFFN!!
Lap 7/21/10
IVF #3 - Clomid/Antagonist w/ ICSI 10/10. 14 retreived, 3DT of 3, BFP 10/20 but m/c. No HB 11/15/10 - D&C 11/17/10.
FET - 2 blasts, 1 survived the thaw. Transfer 2/19. Beta #1 3/1 375, Beta #2 3/3 885, Beta #3 3/8 4261, Beta #4 3/11 9005. U/S 3/8 1 sac 1 yolk, U/S 3/16 1 heartbeat 114bpm!
James born Oct. 24th 2011 via c-section at 38 weeks!
Surprise BFP - Jack born April 28, 2013 via VBAC after PTL at 33 1/2 weeks!
When I scheduled my first appt with my RE I had no symptoms of endo. It took three months to be seen by his office and during that time I started to experience a dull pain on my left side. An ultrasound should a 2.5cm mass on my left ovary. That's why I had my first lap.
My endo was so severe that it is obvious that it's been around for years. I suspect since I was in my teens. When I was younger I had terrible periods. I went on bcp at 18 for a simple cyst and stayed on them until I turned 30. During that time AF was very mild. I had no pain and barely ever had PMS. The next eight years my cycles were like clock work, short and almost pain free. Then the last two years I started getting spotting exactly 3 days before AF. Nothing that even required a pantyliner and only for that one day. I've since learned that spotting is a sign of endo. My endo was so severe that it required a second surgery three months later.
I also have a sister who had severe endo since her teens. I always assumed I must be endo free because my cycle were so problem free, unlike her who is constantly dealing with pain.
If it wasn't for the mass on my ovary, I probably would not have done the lap. However, hindsight it was probably better to have had the lap because I would have wasted a lot of time and money on IUI's before trying IVF. From everything I read, if you have moderate to severe endo it's best to go straight to IVF.
Dx MFI, AMA, Endo, AMH .16
Lap 10/09 Removed endometrioma, stage IV endo and adhesions
Lap 2/10 Endometrioma cysts & adhesions returned.
Ivf #1 4/10 Antagonist, ET Cancelled.
IVF #2 2/11 A/ACP+E2V C/P
IVF #3 6/11 Letrozole/Antagonist BFN
IVF #4 11/11 Low stim Antagonist BFN
Lap 3/12 Lap & Selective HSG
Many cycles of Letrozole and LP HCG w/TI and LDN
IVF #5 8/12 Low stim BFN
IUI #1 10/12 BFN br> S&PAIFW
Have you that the HSG (dye test)? That's how I ended up getting my lap. The dye test showed blockages.
Good luck!
After 31 cycles, baby boy K (IUI) born 11/03/11
BFP (Femara) - 08/09/13 m/c around 6 weeks. xoxox Baby April
Rainbow baby girl E (Femara) born 11/16/16
For those who saw abnormalities during your HSG, what were they?
At mine, we saw my uterus was completely to the left of my spine and appeared scarred down. When he tugged on it, it stretched out to be the upside down triangle shape but did not move freely like it should.