I was listening to a radio talk show on my drive home last night (I think it was on 94.7) and the host was asking people to give their opinions about parents drinking (in moderation, of course) in front of their children. I had not really given this much thought since DS is still young but am interested to see everyone's thoughts on this.
- Do you think it's OK to drink in moderation around your children (ie a glass of wine with dinner, etc)?
- Do you think you will drink in moderation around your children, not drink at all, or maybe have a drink or so after your children are in bed?
- How are you going to teach your children about drinking?
- How did your parents teach you about drinking (and how will your parenting be similar or different)?
Re: Nonclicky topic/poll: drinking around your children
1. I am going to say yes because I already have a glass of wine with dinner from time to time and DH has his beer just about every night. He never gets drunk (anymore) and because I'm nursing I'm limited to one glass. But I don't see us totally giving up having a drink or two in the evenings as she gets older. I don't know.
2. I answered this with the first question.
3. I have not even begun to think about how I am going to teach her about drinking.. I am more worried about her crawling and eating solids and things like that. The furtherest my mind has gone with that topic are momentary freak-outs when I realize we will have to face her as a teenager some day. Eek.
4. All I really recall from my mom teaching me about drinking was how terrible it was to drink and drive and she would always rather have me call her in the middle of the night than to ever get in a car drunk or with someone who had been drinking. I took her up on that twice. In fact, our house was the house all my friends would spend the night at if they couldn't go home after drinking.. my mom was the cool mom and while I do want Camy to be comfortable bringing her friends over, I WILL NOT be condoning her making our house the safe-my-mom-won't-tell-on-you-and-she'll-make-you-bfast-in-the-morning house. Nope. Not gonna happen. I got away with too much crap as a teen and Camy will not have that level of leniency. Especially if DH has anything to do with it.
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1) Yes, I think its fine to drink around the kids. Sometimes, its even more than moderation....
2) Jakob knows what beer and alcohol is. He knows its for grown-ups only. DH and I are regular, casual drinkers. We always have beer in the fridge, and liquor bottles in the pantry. We take the kids to parties - or have parties here - when there is quite a bit of drinking going on. Nobody's playing beer pong or anything...but we do have a good time
3) We've told him that its for grown-ups only, and that he can drink when he's 21. I might actually let him start having a drink at home when he's an older teenager, but no need to tell him that now
4) My parents did the same as we're doing. We're following their example.
I was talking about this with my cousin's wife last week actually. She grew up in a family where her parents really didn't drink around them, and she was thinking about how her own kids will develop since she and her husband do drink in front of the kids.
1. I do think it's fine to drink around my child.
2. I do & will drink around my children.
3. I'm not sure how much I will actively teach them about drinking. I want it to be known that we don't approve of drinking before they're of legal age. I hope we can surround ourselves with other families that have a similar philosophy so that our kids can hopefully support one another. I don't know, I don't think I'll go nuts if DS drinks in high school, but I don't want him to think that I think it's okay...if that makes sense.
4. My parents drank around us, and I never remember it being a big deal. I guess it's always been a part of the culture in our social circle & our family.
I'll say, I never had a drink until I was in college...and that was like A drink. I really didn't consider myself much of a drinker until I was 20, and even then I was pretty moderate. Prior to getting pregnant & now breastfeeding, I drank more than I did in college. We have/had a pretty active social life, and drinks tend to be a part of that.
Let me preface this by saying that neither DH or I are big drinkers at all.
1. Do you think it's OK to drink in moderation around your children (ie a glass of wine with dinner, etc)? Yes
2. Do you think you will drink in moderation around your children, not drink at all, or maybe have a drink or so after your children are in bed? We do drink around her - not a ton, but if we feel like it. And my family has a annual beer pong tournament at Christmas (classy, huh?) - she was around then too.
3. How are you going to teach your children about drinking? I think we will just give her the info, try and set a positive example, etc. I am not okay with teens drinking/getting drunk, but I also know that it's out there (I did it some). So I guess I hope to be able to teach her to be responsible, avoid peer pressure, do what she thinks is right when it comes to alcohol.
4. How did your parents teach you about drinking (and how will your parenting be similar or different)? I think my parents did the same that I mentioned above. Even though I did partake in my teens, I don't think I ever got stupid about it. I think it's important to put it out there though. I think when it's made taboo, is when there's a problem.
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To answer my own questions.
1. Yes, dh and I think it is ok to drink around our children in moderation but don't ever plan on being drunk around our children.
2. See #1
3. This is what DH and I are going to have to decide upon. I grew up in a family where my parents have NEVER had a sip of alcohol and so it was pretty much a "don't do this or you'll go to hell" type of thing. Which I don't think is ok. DH and I plan on teaching our children that drinking in moderation is ok once they are of age.
4. See #3. My parents have never drank before. They pretty much think that any person who drinks is an alcoholic. In a lot of ways, the way they raised me caused me to rebel more when it came to drinking. I started drinking at a young age because I wanted to find out what it was really about and was as bad as they said it was. That's why I don't plan on using the same parenting tactics. DH came from a family where his parents drank in moderation and he was such a good kid he never drank until he hit 21. At that time he didn't even know what his limits were.
We're still trying to figure all of this stuff out.
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1. Absolutely. In fact, I think it's a good idea.
2. Yes, we'll have a glass of wine or a beer around the kids.
3. I plan to teach them that moderate drinking is a healthy adult activity. A glass of wine with dinner is delicious and good for your heart. That kind of thing.
4. My mom was/is an alcoholic. I hope my kids learn very different things than I did. I will never ever be drunk in front of my children.
1. Yes. I do not see a problem with it in moderation.
2. Yes
3. My family has a LONG history of alcohol abuse. My grandfather died of cirrhosis of the liver, as did his father, and probably the generations before (no one was sure, but they all died young). My own father is now battling liver disease and I know that I will definitely pass on the family history to DD. I know that even in college, a little voice played in my head when I would drink a lot.
4.My always told us of the family history and always stressed that it was something that was difficult and in my grandfather's case near impossible to give up.
1. I think it is fine to have alcohol in moderation in front of kids, but I would never be tipsy or drunk in front of them. I have an alcoholic aunt who used to drink even more when she was "on vacation" visiting us. It caused some very upsetting visits until she sought treatment and even then, her behavior was problematic.
2. DH does not drink at all for health reasons, so I would be the only one. I would not have a problem having a drink or two in front of them. I think it gets tricky, though, when you have teenagers. I do not think I would keep a liquor cabinet or bottles of hard liquor in the house when I have teenagers. It would not be a change or a sacrifice for us since we don't even have liquor now (as it is, we have a bottle or two of wine at any given time) and it's just way too easy for kids to swipe that stuff.
3. I will teach that it is a normal part of adult social interaction in moderation. I would be willing to let my teenagers try sips of my drink every now and then, but I would not give them their own full drink because I would not feel comfortable doing that until they are of the legal drinking age.
4. My parents were not against drinking, but rarely drank when we were younger. Now, they are "wine with dinner" folks. They let us have sips every now and then if they were having something, like at Thanksgiving. They did, however, turn a blind eye if any of us drank in HS and that lack of communication eventually did cause a lot of problems for their relationship with my younger brother.
DH's mom was so overly permissive about partying that she "allowed" him to throw huge parties at her house and would even put out baskets of condoms in the guest bathrooms - all in the name of safety. I say "allowed" because she never wanted to talk about it openly, but just made it clear that her house was a safe house. DH says that he really did not respect his mom for that because, even at the time, he wanted structure and discipline and she let her kids walk all over her. Again, the lack of communication and permissiveness eventually caused a lot of problems for DH's little sister.
I think my point here is that kids will react differently and with varying degrees of responsibility, so from my experience, it's best to be as open and communicative as possible.
1. Yes and No. When I am around my own children I will indulge occassionally. However, I nor DH will drink around DSS except in very rare instances. There is a court that is involved and they are way too pro mom for our taste. We see it as a risk. Now around our own kids, yes, socially.
2. I have had a wine cooler that was poured in another glass previously. My parents to occasionally drink around the kids and that is okay as well. We do have beer in the house from a family party about 3 years ago but it just sits there. There is a time when neither child is here and that is the time when DH and I will indulge in an adult beverage.
3. We discuss with DSS that he can call us at any time for any reason and get a ride home without any flack. We would rather him be safe.
4. They had a beer or margarita at dinner. No one ever really got drunk, it was more a social thing. Now they will have a glass of wine with dinner or before I was pregnant we shared a bottle at a local winery along with dinner. I will try to follow in those same footsteps with the kids where a court is not involved.
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