**Webmistress**

JillBean78

I never post here, I just lurk, but I saw your post about your sleeping issues and it brought me out of lurking.

I have the same problems with my son, we have tried everything, you name it we have done it, different sheets, moving the crib, co-sleeping, different pajamas, different routines at night, bath, no bath, bottle, no bottle, Ferber, rocking, we are DESPERATE!!  I have not slept in over a year, I get 4-5 hours per night broken up so I am constantly on edge and feel crappy.  Our son snored really bad so we thought, well that is it, we took him to an ENT and he had his adnoids out 2 months ago and that did not help. 

I just wanted you to know your not alone.  

JillBean78

I also wanted to add that my husband and I are going to try Ferber one last time and if this doesn't work we are making an appt with our doctor and demanding a referal to a sleep specialist, we just don't know what to do anymore.

Whenever you tell someone your issues IRL do you get a million, crazy old wives tale type solutions??  We do!!  I'm so sick of it.  People just don't get it, it is more than just something an old wives trick is going to solve.  Something bothers him and we cannot figure it out.

We are also going to be seeing an allergist, although I'm convinced it is not allergies. 

Despite his adnoids being gone, he still snores too, not as bad, but still snores.

webMistress0609

We haven't even tried Ferber. Ari goes to sleep easily unless there's some known reason (milestones, screwed up schedule, whatever) & doesn't fully wake up most of the time, he just thrashes around from about 12-ish till at least 5, sometimes till he wakes at 7. So graduated extinction isn't really a solution here - he's not crying out & needing some prop to go back to sleep. It's actually better for us to not try & comfort him when he does this b/c it seems to wake him up more & piss him off b/c he's really trying to sleep. I have read Ferber's book & applied some techniques for scheduling & night feeding w/ success w/ no crying needed. If Ari does start crying it's a major ordeal & involves at least 3 hours of him being up so we couldn't CIO even if it would help. 

I tried getting him into his own space (co-sleeper, PNP, & crib) thinking he just needed to not cosleep, but that really backfired. Then he wakes fully & is terrified & crying. At least if we're right there he seems to self soothe slightly better. Either way we don't sleep. It sucks. 

 

Thanks for commiserating with me. 

JillBean78

I was 1000% against Ferber but a month ago I was at the end of my rope, it worked, but then he got sick and it was all over with.  I haven't had the heart to try it again, but I'm back at my point of desperation.

Our son goes to sleep for his 1 nap and at bedtime just fine, but he wakes up 4-5 times throughout the night, full on crying until someone goes and gets him and either rocks him back to sleep or takes him into bed.  Sometimes I think it is a learned cycle he has due to his apnea that did wake him up that much and he just has to get out of that cycle eventually.  Of course maybe that is not it, I sometimes make stuff up to make me feel better about it, hahahaha.

I hope you find a solution that works for you.   No sleep is just awful.

webMistress0609

I can also relate to the making up stuff to feel better about it. I said a few times in the last couple of months that maybe he just never learned how to sleep well since he had reflux & allergy issues & they were un-dx'ed for so long. Maybe he'll figure it out soon...