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ifwisheswerefishes

I am NOT good with numbers...at all! I'm numerically dyslexic, which means I mix up my numbers and flip them around...made math a living hell in high school and now college!!

The whole counting thing with TTC is a wee bit confusing to me...maybe it's my right-brain-ness or something! Can anyone use the most basic of info and help me figure out how to count for ovulation, etc.

Just as a note, we are currently NOT TTC -- wanting to save up and get a house instead of this apartment before we purposefully try. However, if a LO decides to appear in the near future, we won't be disappointed! =] 

ellies1984

rachelandjon09:

I am NOT good with numbers...at all! I'm numerically dyslexic, which means I mix up my numbers and flip them around...made math a living hell in high school and now college!!

The whole counting thing with TTC is a wee bit confusing to me...maybe it's my right-brain-ness or something! Can anyone use the most basic of info and help me figure out how to count for ovulation, etc.

Just as a note, we are currently NOT TTC -- wanting to save up and get a house instead of this apartment before we purposefully try. However, if a LO decides to appear in the near future, we won't be disappointed! =] 

click on my ovulation chart below...sign up for fertility friend and start charting. you can know when you will ovulate. and lurk on here quite a bit, you will learn a ton! GL!

karaknr

Yes like PP said, sign up for Fertility Friend and start charting. All you have to do is get a BBT, temp the same time every morning and record it in your chart. FF will do the rest of the work for you. And take their tutorials. Even when TTA it's helpful to go ahead and know what your cycles are 'typically' like if you plan to TTC in the near future.

PS. if you arent using BC, youre trying to get PG. There isnt much gray area around that. (dont know if you are or arent, just sayin).

a.graves

There is actually no way to tell you are ovulating or when you are ovulating unless you are using OPKs or charting your temperature.Everyone is different.

I would suggest getting the book Taking Charge of Your Fertility. It is an amazing book to read.

Best of luck.

ifwisheswerefishes

karaknr:

PS. if you arent using BC, youre trying to get PG. There isnt much gray area around that. (dont know if you are or arent, just sayin). 

 We're finding ways to work around that one...we've been using spermicide and not even letting DH come close to "boiling point" during the actual "action."  We think that DH has a latex allergy, which is a bit crappy, to say the least. So, we've been preventative, but nothing is foolproof. Which is why we're wanting to chart a bit more efficiently, and keeping track better. 

Also, are there any other non-latex BC ideas that you have found helpful?  

ifwisheswerefishes

Should add: not big on The Pill or Depo (against the first for religious reasons, and the second really messed me up the last time I was on it). 

gymnst1013

IUD?

As the girls said, you can't "count for ovulation".  You can only know you ovulated after the fact by charting.

I would also suggest checking out FF.

ellies1984

gymnst1013:

IUD?

As the girls said, you can't "count for ovulation".  You can only know you ovulated after the fact by charting.

I would also suggest checking out FF.

I had a copper IUD for 3 years. It was great!

karaknr

The "pull out method" which is what your referring to worked for DH and I just fine while we were dating (because we didnt have sexy time that much cause it was long distance). But once we got married I got on the Nuva Ring. The Pill made me sick as a dog and Depo messed me up also. I LOVED Nuva ring. However, it prevents PG just like the pill as in Hormone release. Which Depo is pretty similar also. If you start charting, using OPK's, spermicide and the pull out youll probably be fine. As long as you arent just doing the deed without any caution (aka TTC). Also you could get a Diaphragm. Thatd probably be best. I think their rubber not latex, but dont take my word for it.

Dobermonster

rachelandjon09:

Should add: not big on The Pill or Depo (against the first for religious reasons, and the second really messed me up the last time I was on it). 

 

Jumping in just get a little OT, sorry! I was just curious why the Pill is off limits in your religion, but not Depo.

ifwisheswerefishes

I'm against Depo as well...it was an Endo. treatment that my OB/GYN prescribed. It was NOT my first choice at all...I was simply at the end of my rope, health-wise. I still don't feel the best about that choice; in fact, I regret it extremely! 

karaknr

kdodge423:

rachelandjon09:

Should add: not big on The Pill or Depo (against the first for religious reasons, and the second really messed me up the last time I was on it). 

How can you be against the pill for religious reasons but ok with Depo?

Do you not realize that they do the exact same thing? They both supress ovulation.

 

Yeah that was kinda what I was thinking. I know old time Catholics are against Ovulation Suppression. Which is all forms of hormonal BC including Depo, Pill and Nuva. Idk what religion OP is, but it doesnt make since to me either. To each her own I guess.

karaknr

rachelandjon09:

I'm against Depo as well...it was an Endo. treatment that my OB/GYN prescribed. It was NOT my first choice at all...I was simply at the end of my rope, health-wise. I still don't feel the best about that choice; in fact, I regret it extremely! 

OH ok, I get it. Well I would try a Diaphragm then w/ spermicide. But like I said, pull out worked for me before, but I also have a ragging thyroid that makes it harder for me to get PG in the first place.

jillybean800

oh, the pill supresses o too? I thought it inhibited implantation.

ifwisheswerefishes

We've been using a diaphragm coated with spermicide, as well as an extra dollop of "swimmer-killer", (as my sister calls it!) as well as "pulling out." 

My mom has been educating me on the "natural method" of TTC and ovulation; I understand most of it..the numbers are what tend to dance around in my brain and come out all mixed up! 

karaknr

jillybean800:

oh, the pill supresses o too? I thought it inhibited implantation.

It does both.

https://www.ehow.com/video_4790552_birth-control-work.html

I think it prohibits implantation if you actually DID ovulate. Not positive on the last part but I do know it does both.

karaknr

rachelandjon09:

We've been using a diaphragm coated with spermicide, as well as an extra dollop of "swimmer-killer", (as my sister calls it!) as well as "pulling out." 

My mom has been educating me on the "natural method" of TTC and ovulation; I understand most of it..the numbers are what tend to dance around in my brain and come out all mixed up! 

Then you should be good girl. And dont worry about counting. Just input temps into FF and it will give you CH's when you ovulated, however it doesnt put the CH's in until AFTER you already O'ed. But as long as you are charting CM and OPK's youll probably be able to estimate that week. Also what youre doing now should work. If it happens after that and you arent totally against being KU now, then it was just meant to be. 

ecleptic

rachelandjon09:

We've been using a diaphragm coated with spermicide, as well as an extra dollop of "swimmer-killer", (as my sister calls it!) as well as "pulling out." 

My mom has been educating me on the "natural method" of TTC and ovulation; I understand most of it..the numbers are what tend to dance around in my brain and come out all mixed up! 

Head straight to the bookstore and read Taking Charge of Your Fertility. It's the natural family planning method that actually works- because counting days just isn't reliable. You'll need a thermometer and someplace to chart your temp every morning but the book is excellent for both trying to avoid and for trying to conceive. You'll be writing down the numbers (or putting them online) instead of trying to keep them in your head and it will come out looking like a graph- not a series of numbers. Graphs are easier to read if numbers make your head swim!

ifwisheswerefishes

ecleptic:

rachelandjon09:

We've been using a diaphragm coated with spermicide, as well as an extra dollop of "swimmer-killer", (as my sister calls it!) as well as "pulling out." 

My mom has been educating me on the "natural method" of TTC and ovulation; I understand most of it..the numbers are what tend to dance around in my brain and come out all mixed up! 

Head straight to the bookstore and read Taking Charge of Your Fertility. It's the natural family planning method that actually works- because counting days just isn't reliable. You'll need a thermometer and someplace to chart your temp every morning but the book is excellent for both trying to avoid and for trying to conceive. You'll be writing down the numbers (or putting them online) instead of trying to keep them in your head and it will come out looking like a graph- not a series of numbers. Graphs are easier to read if numbers make your head swim!

 That sounds SOOO much easier than attempting to remember them and keeping everything straight in my poor math/number-hating brain! *sigh* You guys are great; I don't feel like such an epic failure with simple stuff like this, and awesome, supporting people like you guys! =] 

jillybean800

karaknr:

jillybean800:

oh, the pill supresses o too? I thought it inhibited implantation.

It does both.

https://www.ehow.com/video_4790552_birth-control-work.html

I think it prohibits implantation if you actually DID ovulate. Not positive on the last part but I do know it does both.

Ah, so maybe that's why some religious beliefs prohibit the pill.

karaknr

jillybean800:

karaknr:

jillybean800:

oh, the pill supresses o too? I thought it inhibited implantation.

It does both.

https://www.ehow.com/video_4790552_birth-control-work.html

I think it prohibits implantation if you actually DID ovulate. Not positive on the last part but I do know it does both.

Ah, so maybe that's why some religious beliefs prohibit the pill.

Yeah Im sure that's probably why. 

ifwisheswerefishes

karaknr:

jillybean800:

karaknr:

jillybean800:

oh, the pill supresses o too? I thought it inhibited implantation.

It does both.

https://www.ehow.com/video_4790552_birth-control-work.html

I think it prohibits implantation if you actually DID ovulate. Not positive on the last part but I do know it does both.

Ah, so maybe that's why some religious beliefs prohibit the pill.

Yeah Im sure that's probably why. 

 Yep...that would be one of the big reasons...at least, for me! 

karaknr

rachelandjon09:

karaknr:

jillybean800:

karaknr:

jillybean800:

oh, the pill supresses o too? I thought it inhibited implantation.

It does both.

https://www.ehow.com/video_4790552_birth-control-work.html

I think it prohibits implantation if you actually DID ovulate. Not positive on the last part but I do know it does both.

Ah, so maybe that's why some religious beliefs prohibit the pill.

Yeah Im sure that's probably why. 

 Yep...that would be one of the big reasons...at least, for me! 

I understand. I mean I personally dont have a huge issue with hormonal BC, but the preventing implantation part bugs me a bit cause you could have a chemical PG while on BC. Which would bother me a little. But I guess I just choose to think that its preventing Oing all together.

lauraleither

Just a thought about using spermicide to not get pregnant... a friend of mine did that and ended up pregnant with twins.  Just something to keep in mind.