What am I looking for?

EEachen

This morning I posted about my doctor discouraging my use of charts and OPK, and several of you stated that it didn't look like I had O'd yet.

For future reference for me, what makes you think I have not O'd yet? And what am I looking for in my chart in order to say yes or no for sure if I O'd? I was under the impression that it was 3 high temps after a dip, and the remaining temps to stay over the cover line.

Advice is much appreciated, as I am anxious about the possibility of not ovulating. I have had a gut feeling for some time now, even before TTC, that something is not quite right in the fertility department for me. 

staycee

3 temps higher (by .2) than the previous 6 temps.

your chart looks "iffy"

Sweets11

You are looking for a clear thermal shift. 

Your chart looks like the temperatures went up for a short period and then came back down (which happens sometimes and is nothing to worry about)  Once you ovulate you will see a cluster of temperatures that are lower than the cluster of temperatures in your LP.

I hope that isn't too confusing, I don't know if I explained it very well.  GL!

Emmerjill21

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/Faqs/When-will-ovulation-be-detected.html

Stacyee is wise...

mchupie

Hey,

A few things:

1. You charted EWCM for the last two days

2. Your post-O temps aren't really all that different from your pre-O temps.  It's normal to have a random dip or two in your LP, but yours seems more of a downward trend than anything.

3. FF has given you dotted CH's (instead of solid).  If you enter one or two more temps similar to today's I am guessing FF will take them away completely.

I'm sorry.  Did you take all of the tutorials on FF?  They explain what you are looking for pretty well.

Sweets11

Ignore my post; Kdodge explained it better.

harleyjo

Did you do the FF tutorials?  A quick search on FF will answer your question.  You are looking for a clear and sustained thermal shift.  I think people were thinking you didn't ovulate is because you didn't have a sustained thermal shift.  Also, people don't always have a "dip" before they ovulate.  Good luck!

staycee

kdodge423:

 dip has absolutely nothing to do with if you are going to ovulate.

true.  check out my Sept chart (2nd one in my chart link).   My O was on the upswing.

PS - I'm currently on CD24 and no O yet.

EEachen

mchupie:

Hey,

A few things:

1. You charted EWCM for the last two days

2. Your post-O temps aren't really all that different from your pre-O temps.  It's normal to have a random dip or two in your LP, but yours seems more of a downward trend than anything.

3. FF has given you dotted CH's (instead of solid).  If you enter one or two more temps similar to today's I am guessing FF will take them away completely.

I'm sorry.  Did you take all of the tutorials on FF?  They explain what you are looking for pretty well.

I have done most of them, but not all of them I think I'm on number 9.

Also, FF says sometimes you will get spurts of ewcm even after O, so it didn't concern me very much. 

I knew from taking the tutorials that my temps were up over my coverline for more than 3 days, and were higher than my previous temps, also, sometimes women get a dip in temperature followed by a rise. However, as one pp said my chart looks iffy.

I had been concerned because my chart shows these things, yet they are not a large shift in temps. And although I had the cross arrows, is it the marginal temp shift that makes it look iffy to you/and or the ewcm?

 

staycee

EEachen:

I knew from taking the tutorials that my temps were up over my coverline for more than 3 days, and were higher than my previous temps,

re looking at your chart... that coverline is too low.  You seriously only have 2 temps under it.    Most of your pre-O temps should be under the coverline

a coverline for this chart should be closer to 97.5

EEachen

kdodge423:

I dip has absolutely nothing to do with if you are going to ovulate. Get that out of your head.

You need 3 temps higher than the previous 6. The FF charting course is very clear on this. So is TCOYF.

ETA: And really? You're throwing out the "ZOMG, something is wrong" card because you don't have a clear O by CD23? Settle down. 

Kdodge, I don't mean to be insulting by making statements like this. I know that many of you have been at this for a very long time and I do sound like a spaz for making statements like this after trying for such a short time.

But I have a long history of female fertility problems in my family and it is something that weighs heavily on me. Also, haven't you ever just had a gut feeling about something? I'm not one of those people who worries over the drop of a hat and normally am very calm and collected. I had to have my gallbladder removed through emergency surgery because I insisted nothing was really wrong with me, but this does worry me.

So I'm sorry for making you get your stick out, but I just need some support on this. Again I apologize, and I am very grateful for your advice.

LadyXaverian

EEachen:

mchupie:

Hey,

A few things:

1. You charted EWCM for the last two days

2. Your post-O temps aren't really all that different from your pre-O temps.  It's normal to have a random dip or two in your LP, but yours seems more of a downward trend than anything.

3. FF has given you dotted CH's (instead of solid).  If you enter one or two more temps similar to today's I am guessing FF will take them away completely.

I'm sorry.  Did you take all of the tutorials on FF?  They explain what you are looking for pretty well.

I have done most of them, but not all of them I think I'm on number 9.

Also, FF says sometimes you will get spurts of ewcm even after O, so it didn't concern me very much. 

I knew from taking the tutorials that my temps were up over my coverline for more than 3 days, and were higher than my previous temps, also, sometimes women get a dip in temperature followed by a rise. However, as one pp said my chart looks iffy.

I had been concerned because my chart shows these things, yet they are not a large shift in temps. And although I had the cross arrows, is it the marginal temp shift that makes it look iffy to you/and or the ewcm?

 

It's a combination of the 2 that makes it look iffy. However, you can look at my charts. Except for cycle 2, my temp shifts have been marginal and rocky as well. It doesn't mean you have NOT O'd.. just that I would keep sexin' regularly and using OPKs (I notice you haven't gotten a positive yet either.. though some people never do..)

 

EEachen

staycee:

EEachen:

I knew from taking the tutorials that my temps were up over my coverline for more than 3 days, and were higher than my previous temps,

re looking at your chart... that coverline is too low.  You seriously only have 2 temps under it.    Most of your pre-O temps should be under the coverline

a coverline for this chart should be closer to 97.5

I've posted here and there about this, because my chart doesn't look "right" to me either, but then I usually get referred to the gallery, which only makes me more crazy!  Thank you for your opinion on my chart. It helps to know that the coverline is probably all wrong. It makes me see it differently. Thanks

EEachen

SarahL77:

EEachen:

mchupie:

Hey,

A few things:

1. You charted EWCM for the last two days

2. Your post-O temps aren't really all that different from your pre-O temps.  It's normal to have a random dip or two in your LP, but yours seems more of a downward trend than anything.

3. FF has given you dotted CH's (instead of solid).  If you enter one or two more temps similar to today's I am guessing FF will take them away completely.

I'm sorry.  Did you take all of the tutorials on FF?  They explain what you are looking for pretty well.

I have done most of them, but not all of them I think I'm on number 9.

Also, FF says sometimes you will get spurts of ewcm even after O, so it didn't concern me very much. 

I knew from taking the tutorials that my temps were up over my coverline for more than 3 days, and were higher than my previous temps, also, sometimes women get a dip in temperature followed by a rise. However, as one pp said my chart looks iffy.

I had been concerned because my chart shows these things, yet they are not a large shift in temps. And although I had the cross arrows, is it the marginal temp shift that makes it look iffy to you/and or the ewcm?

 

It's a combination of the 2 that makes it look iffy. However, you can look at my charts. Except for cycle 2, my temp shifts have been marginal and rocky as well. It doesn't mean you have NOT O'd.. just that I would keep sexin' regularly and using OPKs (I notice you haven't gotten a positive yet either.. though some people never do..)

 

I thought I was going to get a +OPK because my lines kept getting darker and darker, then a few days ago it went completely back to showing just a light line. So this morning when I had an abundance of ewcm I did an OPK and again a -OPK.  It makes sense to me what a pp said about my coverline being too low, it makes me look at the chart differently. What do you think about this?

j&j508

I totally understand where you're coming from with the gut feeling, etc. but I also agree that it's too early to be trying to find answers.  Ride this cycle out, keep having sex (b/c I agree that it looks like you haven't ovulated yet), and wait to see how it plays out.  Give yourself a couple of months to get used to temping, reading your chart, etc. and then look for patterns.  Any one chart can look a little off.  I'm totally guilty of this too, but no amount of stressing about it right now is going to change anything. 

LadyXaverian

EEachen:

SarahL77:

EEachen:

mchupie:

Hey,

A few things:

1. You charted EWCM for the last two days

2. Your post-O temps aren't really all that different from your pre-O temps.  It's normal to have a random dip or two in your LP, but yours seems more of a downward trend than anything.

3. FF has given you dotted CH's (instead of solid).  If you enter one or two more temps similar to today's I am guessing FF will take them away completely.

I'm sorry.  Did you take all of the tutorials on FF?  They explain what you are looking for pretty well.

I have done most of them, but not all of them I think I'm on number 9.

Also, FF says sometimes you will get spurts of ewcm even after O, so it didn't concern me very much. 

I knew from taking the tutorials that my temps were up over my coverline for more than 3 days, and were higher than my previous temps, also, sometimes women get a dip in temperature followed by a rise. However, as one pp said my chart looks iffy.

I had been concerned because my chart shows these things, yet they are not a large shift in temps. And although I had the cross arrows, is it the marginal temp shift that makes it look iffy to you/and or the ewcm?

 

It's a combination of the 2 that makes it look iffy. However, you can look at my charts. Except for cycle 2, my temp shifts have been marginal and rocky as well. It doesn't mean you have NOT O'd.. just that I would keep sexin' regularly and using OPKs (I notice you haven't gotten a positive yet either.. though some people never do..)

 

I thought I was going to get a +OPK because my lines kept getting darker and darker, then a few days ago it went completely back to showing just a light line. So this morning when I had an abundance of ewcm I did an OPK and again a -OPK.  It makes sense to me what a pp said about my coverline being too low, it makes me look at the chart differently. What do you think about this?

I admit, I do not understand how to calculate cover lines very well.. sorry. I've got nothing for you here.

FWIW, I actually do think you O'd and that you just missed your surge with the OPKs.

(I reserve the right to change my opinion if your temp doesn't go back up lol!)

mchupie

I wouldn't stress about it, hun.  Your chart is what it is.  You either ovulated already, or you are waiting to.  Agonizing over your chart isn't going to help anything (trust me, I speak from experience).

I would keep on having sex!

EEachen

SarahL77:

EEachen:

SarahL77:

EEachen:

mchupie:

Hey,

A few things:

1. You charted EWCM for the last two days

2. Your post-O temps aren't really all that different from your pre-O temps.  It's normal to have a random dip or two in your LP, but yours seems more of a downward trend than anything.

3. FF has given you dotted CH's (instead of solid).  If you enter one or two more temps similar to today's I am guessing FF will take them away completely.

I'm sorry.  Did you take all of the tutorials on FF?  They explain what you are looking for pretty well.

I have done most of them, but not all of them I think I'm on number 9.

Also, FF says sometimes you will get spurts of ewcm even after O, so it didn't concern me very much. 

I knew from taking the tutorials that my temps were up over my coverline for more than 3 days, and were higher than my previous temps, also, sometimes women get a dip in temperature followed by a rise. However, as one pp said my chart looks iffy.

I had been concerned because my chart shows these things, yet they are not a large shift in temps. And although I had the cross arrows, is it the marginal temp shift that makes it look iffy to you/and or the ewcm?

 

It's a combination of the 2 that makes it look iffy. However, you can look at my charts. Except for cycle 2, my temp shifts have been marginal and rocky as well. It doesn't mean you have NOT O'd.. just that I would keep sexin' regularly and using OPKs (I notice you haven't gotten a positive yet either.. though some people never do..)

 

I thought I was going to get a +OPK because my lines kept getting darker and darker, then a few days ago it went completely back to showing just a light line. So this morning when I had an abundance of ewcm I did an OPK and again a -OPK.  It makes sense to me what a pp said about my coverline being too low, it makes me look at the chart differently. What do you think about this?

I admit, I do not understand how to calculate cover lines very well.. sorry. I've got nothing for you here.

FWIW, I actually do think you O'd and that you just missed your surge with the OPKs.

(I reserve the right to change my opinion if your temp doesn't go back up lol!)

lol, ok sounds good. I guess my original question wasn't worded the right way, because I did read the tutorials and I knew 'what I'm supposed to be looking for' but my chart shows what the tutorial says to look for but it just looks funny. In other words, not quite what I pictured when I read the tutorials. Also, not what I've seen in any of the charts on the gallery. Thank you so much Sarah for taking the time to look at my chart, I really do appreciate your sincere opinion. 

Starbuck5

j&j508:

I totally understand where you're coming from with the gut feeling, etc. but I also agree that it's too early to be trying to find answers.  Ride this cycle out, keep having sex (b/c I agree that it looks like you haven't ovulated yet), and wait to see how it plays out.  Give yourself a couple of months to get used to temping, reading your chart, etc. and then look for patterns.  Any one chart can look a little off.  I'm totally guilty of this too, but no amount of stressing about it right now is going to change anything. 

Dude, my last chart looked like NONE of my others. It happens!

EEachen

Starbuck5:

j&j508:

I totally understand where you're coming from with the gut feeling, etc. but I also agree that it's too early to be trying to find answers.  Ride this cycle out, keep having sex (b/c I agree that it looks like you haven't ovulated yet), and wait to see how it plays out.  Give yourself a couple of months to get used to temping, reading your chart, etc. and then look for patterns.  Any one chart can look a little off.  I'm totally guilty of this too, but no amount of stressing about it right now is going to change anything. 

Dude, my last chart looked like NONE of my others. It happens!

wow! It was really crazy, thanks for pointing that out Starbuck.

j&j508

Also- if you want lots of other chart opinions, I find the ladies on the FF boards like to dissect charts.