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Babies: 3 - 6 Months
No Cry Solution vs. Ferber
Anyone read both? Do you suggest one or the other? I am just trying to decide which one to go as nurse and rock to sleep is no longer working!
TIA
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Re: No Cry Solution vs. Ferber
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They are very different schools of thought - it really depends on if you want to go with a CIO type of sleep training or something more gentle/no cry.....
Either way I think your baby is too young for CIO just FYI. They used to say 4 months and are now saying don't even try until 6 months.
?? What? What are you talking about? I must have missed something in reading this book...
It's normal for that to happen around 3 - 4 months. It happened for me and a lot of others on the board. The babies become more aware of their environments at that time, and it changes their sleep patterns a lot.
I didn't read ferber, but that method wouldn't work for me even if I wanted to do it b/c she doesn't lay in her crib and cry. She lays there and plays. I did read NCSS, and while it had some good tips none of them particularly worked for me. I also read HSHHC, and while he does present CIO as only one solution, I found the book to be very pro CIO.
Sorry what does "KWIM" mean? I am just about to order both books now. I am just hoping I can find a solution..but as in PP said I guess I should wait for the ferber method til he is 6 months.
I can't find my original post on it, otherwise I'd link. But the author basically compared her child (co-sleep, BF, No-Cry, AP, carrier) to another who was bottle fed (unknown if BM or formula), CIO, in a stroller, etc and just made these horrid comments about what kind of men they would grow into (supportive and nuturing or cold and remote) because of how they were sleep trained. I babywear, BF, room-in, etc, and I was just incredibly offended and her judgment of others. Book was OK until that last chapter.
they are both such different ends of the spectrum...i read some other book that i got at a used bookstore (i think it was like healthy sleep habits happy child?) but it discusses a few different approaches. i liked it because although it was pro-cio, it was also pro-nursing in bed and things like that.
i dont think i like all-or-nothing approaches.
Ah, I see. I don't remember that sticking out to me, but I'll have to check. Regardless, there ARE studies (whether you believe them or not) that show babies that are made to CIO, aren't held enough, etc go on to have some emotional issues, etc. oftentimes so maybe she wasn't judging so much as pointing out the latest research?
LOL, there is a huge difference though between using a stroller and not holding your baby enough.
She was feeling sorry for a baby at a baseball game who was in his carseat. Maybe he was napping!
Yeah, I've heard of those studies (often conducted in orphanages, etc). She wasn't quoting those. She was directly comparing her child with another of the same age at a baseball game. Lots of "my son was interacting with others" in his carrier while "her son had only a view of the sky and trees" from his stroller. The other mom "propped a bottle" while her son "snuggled while breastfeeding". These aren't direct quotes, but paraphrasing. It was very snarky and judgmental and quite unlike the rest of the tone in her book.
Ah I guess it's just a different perspective. Unless the baby is asleep (which it doesn't sound like he was by the propped bottle comment) I also don't love to see babies just sitting in car seats staring at the sky and not being able to interact with people/see the world from another perspective. And doesn't the AAP advise against bottle propping anyway, so I hardly think it's judgmental to say she felt bad for a baby being ignored while eating (which is a great way to bond, whether you BF or FF, doesn't matter).