What's a White Trash name?

sunnyday016

Sorry, I find this description kind of rude. People are people, not trash.

Vent over.

AbJams

I agree. I find that term classist and disgusting.

gsd mommy

I just commented on this in another thread... i think it's scary that people who are having children are stereotyping like this.  To be able to fully teach your children that everybody is equal, you yourself must feel the same way imo..  Really how many times have you looked through a baby name book and said, "oh I can't pick that name because it sounds like a white trash name"

PrincessLinLin

I agree, that comment is right up there with "stripper name"

lo45fd98wq32

I do not appreciate this description, either.

blancanyc69

that's what I was wondering, what makes a name trashy?

ubermoose

I'm not going to lie, some names do reflect badly on the parents. I see some spellings, as well as some over-the-top outrageous names, and they do make it seem that the parents are uneducated or are oddly gimmicky. Not that I see myself as the militant spelling police, but it does frustrate me when parents brush off legitimate concerns about how a name or spelling comes off to others. I don't like to be rude, but I do feel a bit sorry for the kids that get stuck with poorly thought-out names.

That being said, I totally agree that some comments are way off-base. I see what people are getting at when they say "white trash", but I think there are more appropriate things to say if a name carries such a connotation. It is innappropriate. (Same goes for comments like "skanky" and "stripper name.") I also think that if people made other derogatory race-related comments, people would be outraged.

KtB0605

Yea I don't think any name is really able to be stereotyped-as so many people use family names, cultural names, etc. I think the only names that I have a problem with are those that are totally off base, like those that a lot of the movie stars use (i.e. Pilot Inspektor, Bronx Mowgli, etc.) 

Of course, there are some people that think naming their children after their favorite food, *leisure* activity, or health issue is appropriate. My mom works at a school that has two brothers named:

O'rangejello (pronounced O-Rahn-chel-O) and..

L'imejello (pronounced Li-MAY-chel-o)  

My mom has a friend who works in a sister school in the district. A girl in her LD resource class has the name of

Marijuana Pepsi...they *affectionately* call her Mary Jane. *gag*

And I mentioned before on another thread that I had a friend who worked at a planned parenthood and had a client name her baby Chlamydia because when she heard the doctor use the *name* it sounded "pretty". 

 

So, I am really open to most names-I can live with Apple, Poet, Ever, etc..but those just mentioned make me cringe )  

GatorMrs_Esq

KtB0605:

My mom works at a school that has two brothers named:

O'rangejello (pronounced O-Rahn-chel-O) and..

L'imejello (pronounced Li-MAY-chel-o)  

My mom has a friend who works in a sister school in the district. A girl in her LD resource class has the name of

Marijuana Pepsi...they *affectionately* call her Mary Jane. *gag*

And I mentioned before on another thread that I had a friend who worked at a planned parenthood and had a client name her baby Chlamydia because when she heard the doctor use the *name* it sounded "pretty". 

I'm sorry, but I NEVER believe these stories.  I think these names started out as an urban myth, and then everyone suddenly "knows someone who" teaches at a school / had a patient with the name of Orangejello, Lime/lemonjello, Marijuana, Chlamydia, etc.

j_luvs_r

PrincessLinLin:

I agree, that comment is right up there with "stripper name"

This exactly!  I loathe that terminology.  

wheelenl

I don't see it so much as stereotyping people but names. I think it's fair to let people know about assumptions people have with regards to names. I don't know that I've used WT, maybe I have. But the point is that I think it's fair to point out to people names can be associated with certain socioeconomic or even racial groups so that they can take that into consideration. If a name has certain connotations, it's fair to point them out as long as you are not insulting anyone in the process.

LittleMamaB

I don't know...I've met some people that are trash. Just sayin'.

IncognitoWifey

GatorMrs_Esq:

KtB0605:

My mom works at a school that has two brothers named:

O'rangejello (pronounced O-Rahn-chel-O) and..

L'imejello (pronounced Li-MAY-chel-o)  

My mom has a friend who works in a sister school in the district. A girl in her LD resource class has the name of

Marijuana Pepsi...they *affectionately* call her Mary Jane. *gag*

And I mentioned before on another thread that I had a friend who worked at a planned parenthood and had a client name her baby Chlamydia because when she heard the doctor use the *name* it sounded "pretty". 

I'm sorry, but I NEVER believe these stories.  I think these names started out as an urban myth, and then everyone suddenly "knows someone who" teaches at a school / had a patient with the name of Orangejello, Lime/lemonjello, Marijuana, Chlamydia, etc.

This. KtB0605, you REALLY have a connection to all of those urban myth names??? Really??  I wish people would just say, "...that's like the person who named her son o'ranjello...." instead of lying to personalize it by claiming they know the person somehow (and it seems to always be a mom's school or an aunt's health clinic, lol).

renafaith

GatorMrs_Esq:

KtB0605:

My mom works at a school that has two brothers named:

O'rangejello (pronounced O-Rahn-chel-O) and..

L'imejello (pronounced Li-MAY-chel-o)  

My mom has a friend who works in a sister school in the district. A girl in her LD resource class has the name of

Marijuana Pepsi...they *affectionately* call her Mary Jane. *gag*

And I mentioned before on another thread that I had a friend who worked at a planned parenthood and had a client name her baby Chlamydia because when she heard the doctor use the *name* it sounded "pretty". 

I'm sorry, but I NEVER believe these stories.  I think these names started out as an urban myth, and then everyone suddenly "knows someone who" teaches at a school / had a patient with the name of Orangejello, Lime/lemonjello, Marijuana, Chlamydia, etc.

This....especially since it's L'emonjello and not L'imejello. And the Chlamydia story is from the days the doc had to leave the house and couldn't deliver the baby, but left his medical book so the father-to-be could do it. They found the name in the book.

renafaith

wheelenl:

I don't see it so much as stereotyping people but names. I think it's fair to let people know about assumptions people have with regards to names. I don't know that I've used WT, maybe I have. But the point is that I think it's fair to point out to people names can be associated with certain socioeconomic or even racial groups so that they can take that into consideration. If a name has certain connotations, it's fair to point them out as long as you are not insulting anyone in the process.

I don't agree. My aunt wanted to name her little girl Cinnamon, but my mom kept harping on how it sounded like a name of another race and would not let up. Eventually, my aunt caved and named her little girl Erica. Now that she's in her teens, she looks more like a Cinnamon...with the brownish red hair and slightly tanned skin. I was never a fan, but I think Cinnamon would've fit her better...not to mention, since I started TTC my aunt has expressed regret about naming her what everybody else wanted to name her. I sometimes wonder if mothers have an intuition when it comes to what name will fit their child.

That being said, the post in question only asked if you thought of the car. If she had said "What does this name make you think of", I think it would've been fair to politely tell what socioeconomic group you associated with it. But she asked a yes or no question, there was no excuse for responses like that...it was a race related comment and very offensive.

Newspaper Articles

Marijuana Pepsi Sawyer is a grown woman, not a little girl. 

https://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/40874017.html 

I don't believe the Jello brothers' story though.

 

 

robinsokj

Im sorry, but if theres a girl named Barbie..all I can think of is strippers.  I would want someone to be honest and tell me this before I gave my daughter a name that could potentially determine her life.

LittleMamaB

The "name" Cinnamon fits no one. Sorry. If my sister wanted to name a kid Cinnamon, I'd try to convince her otherwise, too. That's just awful.

PunkyBooster

KtB0605:

Yea I don't think any name is really able to be stereotyped-as so many people use family names, cultural names, etc. I think the only names that I have a problem with are those that are totally off base, like those that a lot of the movie stars use (i.e. Pilot Inspektor, Bronx Mowgli, etc.) 

Of course, there are some people that think naming their children after their favorite food, *leisure* activity, or health issue is appropriate. My mom works at a school that has two brothers named:

O'rangejello (pronounced O-Rahn-chel-O) and..

L'imejello (pronounced Li-MAY-chel-o)  

My mom has a friend who works in a sister school in the district. A girl in her LD resource class has the name of

Marijuana Pepsi...they *affectionately* call her Mary Jane. *gag*

And I mentioned before on another thread that I had a friend who worked at a planned parenthood and had a client name her baby Chlamydia because when she heard the doctor use the *name* it sounded "pretty". 

 

LOL. Suuuure.  And my sister's name is L-a!

MandyWes

wheelenl:

I don't see it so much as stereotyping people but names. I think it's fair to let people know about assumptions people have with regards to names. I don't know that I've used WT, maybe I have. But the point is that I think it's fair to point out to people names can be associated with certain socioeconomic or even racial groups so that they can take that into consideration. If a name has certain connotations, it's fair to point them out as long as you are not insulting anyone in the process.

I agree with this. If you ask what someone's thoughts are, you're asking for someone's opinion or impression of a name. There are names that I consider to sound like a "stripper name". There are certain names that I associate with certain ethnic groups or social classes. And I'll tell you my associations if you ask for an opinion.

wheelenl

renafaith:

wheelenl:

I don't see it so much as stereotyping people but names. I think it's fair to let people know about assumptions people have with regards to names. I don't know that I've used WT, maybe I have. But the point is that I think it's fair to point out to people names can be associated with certain socioeconomic or even racial groups so that they can take that into consideration. If a name has certain connotations, it's fair to point them out as long as you are not insulting anyone in the process.

I don't agree. My aunt wanted to name her little girl Cinnamon, but my mom kept harping on how it sounded like a name of another race and would not let up. Eventually, my aunt caved and named her little girl Erica. Now that she's in her teens, she looks more like a Cinnamon...with the brownish red hair and slightly tanned skin. I was never a fan, but I think Cinnamon would've fit her better...not to mention, since I started TTC my aunt has expressed regret about naming her what everybody else wanted to name her. I sometimes wonder if mothers have an intuition when it comes to what name will fit their child.

That being said, the post in question only asked if you thought of the car. If she had said "What does this name make you think of", I think it would've been fair to politely tell what socioeconomic group you associated with it. But she asked a yes or no question, there was no excuse for responses like that...it was a race related comment and very offensive.

I didn't see the post in question, and I don't associate Cinnamon with any race, but either way I think your aunt may regret naming your cousin Cinnamon, but Erica is probably grateful.

grinninjen

MandyWes:

wheelenl:

I don't see it so much as stereotyping people but names. I think it's fair to let people know about assumptions people have with regards to names. I don't know that I've used WT, maybe I have. But the point is that I think it's fair to point out to people names can be associated with certain socioeconomic or even racial groups so that they can take that into consideration. If a name has certain connotations, it's fair to point them out as long as you are not insulting anyone in the process.

I agree with this. If you ask what someone's thoughts are, you're asking for someone's opinion or impression of a name. There are names that I consider to sound like a "stripper name". There are certain names that I associate with certain ethnic groups or social classes. And I'll tell you my associations if you ask for an opinion.

 

Exactly.  Is it wrong to stereotype?  Yes.  But I think when most people hear a name, they make some sort of association in their minds.  Right or wrong, that's the reality.  I'm sorry but if someone is going to read my child's name on a resume and think "stripper".  It's not in my child's best interest to choose that name.

PearlPink

GatorMrs_Esq:

KtB0605:

My mom works at a school that has two brothers named:

O'rangejello (pronounced O-Rahn-chel-O) and..

L'imejello (pronounced Li-MAY-chel-o)  

My mom has a friend who works in a sister school in the district. A girl in her LD resource class has the name of

Marijuana Pepsi...they *affectionately* call her Mary Jane. *gag*

And I mentioned before on another thread that I had a friend who worked at a planned parenthood and had a client name her baby Chlamydia because when she heard the doctor use the *name* it sounded "pretty". 

I'm sorry, but I NEVER believe these stories.  I think these names started out as an urban myth, and then everyone suddenly "knows someone who" teaches at a school / had a patient with the name of Orangejello, Lime/lemonjello, Marijuana, Chlamydia, etc.

 

Well you can continue not believing them but I actually know a family of 3 kids...The mom heard the urban myth thing and thought Lemonjello, Sodapop and Female all sounded like great names. I PERSONALLY KNOW THESE THREE CHILDREN. I could tell you what school they go to, what 4-H clubs they were in etc.

mejumpmore1

robinsokj:

Im sorry, but if theres a girl named Barbie..all I can think of is strippers.  I would want someone to be honest and tell me this before I gave my daughter a name that could potentially determine her life.

I actually know a woman who goes by Barbie. I don't know if that is her given name or not, but she lived in the neighborhood that I grew up in. She and her husband were both crazy about halloween and always ha

mejumpmore1

robinsokj:

Im sorry, but if theres a girl named Barbie..all I can think of is strippers.  I would want someone to be honest and tell me this before I gave my daughter a name that could potentially determine her life.

I actually know a woman who goes by Barbie. I don't know if that is her given name or not, but she lived in the neighborhood that I grew up in. She and her husband were both crazy about halloween and always had the coolest decorations. Yep, there are real people with that name.

robinsokj

mejumpmore1:

robinsokj:

Im sorry, but if theres a girl named Barbie..all I can think of is strippers.  I would want someone to be honest and tell me this before I gave my daughter a name that could potentially determine her life.

I actually know a woman who goes by Barbie. I don't know if that is her given name or not, but she lived in the neighborhood that I grew up in. She and her husband were both crazy about halloween and always had the coolest decorations. Yep, there are real people with that name.

Im fully aware that there are real people with that name and I feel bad for them.  If that was their given name, their parents gave them less of a chance to begin with...imho.  People will look at a resume, see Barbie, and put it to the side.  Just the way it is.

GatorMrs_Esq

PearlPink:

GatorMrs_Esq:

KtB0605:

My mom works at a school that has two brothers named:

O'rangejello (pronounced O-Rahn-chel-O) and..

L'imejello (pronounced Li-MAY-chel-o)  

My mom has a friend who works in a sister school in the district. A girl in her LD resource class has the name of

Marijuana Pepsi...they *affectionately* call her Mary Jane. *gag*

And I mentioned before on another thread that I had a friend who worked at a planned parenthood and had a client name her baby Chlamydia because when she heard the doctor use the *name* it sounded "pretty". 

I'm sorry, but I NEVER believe these stories.  I think these names started out as an urban myth, and then everyone suddenly "knows someone who" teaches at a school / had a patient with the name of Orangejello, Lime/lemonjello, Marijuana, Chlamydia, etc.

 

Well you can continue not believing them but I actually know a family of 3 kids...The mom heard the urban myth thing and thought Lemonjello, Sodapop and Female all sounded like great names. I PERSONALLY KNOW THESE THREE CHILDREN. I could tell you what school they go to, what 4-H clubs they were in etc.

Oh man, 3 urban myths rolled into ONE FAMILY?!  It's just too much. 

sunnyday016

Hello, OP here.

I have no problem with a name being called a "stripper name". I don't know much about strippers, but I'm assuming that they chose (or are given) their stripper names to make them sound more appealing/sexy. So I don't really understand why telling someone on here that their name choice sounds like a stripper name is offensive-all they are saying is that the name sounds pretty outrageously sexy (in an icky way). If I were considering a name that would fit this description, I would certainly want all of you to tell me.

I guess my problem is with the phrase "white trash". It's horrible in this day and age that we call people trash. People, no matter their color,  socioeconomic situation, background, religion, etc, are NOT trash. This thinking is what has led to slavery, oppression, and genocide.

kcnurse77

I agree that noboby should use the term "white trash". It is completely classless. PERIOD.

If you argue that using this description is ok because certain names are associated with certain races, that is ridiculous!! Couldn't you just say "white" or "black", Caucasion or African American or Hispanic? Ignorance at its best.......

robinsokj

sunnyday016:

Hello, OP here.

I have no problem with a name being called a "stripper name". I don't know much about strippers, but I'm assuming that they chose (or are given) their stripper names to make them sound more appealing/sexy. So I don't really understand why telling someone on here that their name choice sounds like a stripper name is offensive-all they are saying is that the name sounds pretty outrageously sexy (in an icky way). If I were considering a name that would fit this description, I would certainly want all of you to tell me.

I guess my problem is with the phrase "white trash". It's horrible in this day and age that we call people trash. People, no matter their color,  socioeconomic situation, background, religion, etc, are NOT trash. This thinking is what has led to slavery, oppression, and genocide.

 

While names dont determine if someone is trashy...there is PLENTY of white trash out there.  The name doesnt determine whether or not someone is trash, the person does.  

sunnyday016

robinsokj:

sunnyday016:

Hello, OP here.

I have no problem with a name being called a "stripper name". I don't know much about strippers, but I'm assuming that they chose (or are given) their stripper names to make them sound more appealing/sexy. So I don't really understand why telling someone on here that their name choice sounds like a stripper name is offensive-all they are saying is that the name sounds pretty outrageously sexy (in an icky way). If I were considering a name that would fit this description, I would certainly want all of you to tell me.

I guess my problem is with the phrase "white trash". It's horrible in this day and age that we call people trash. People, no matter their color,  socioeconomic situation, background, religion, etc, are NOT trash. This thinking is what has led to slavery, oppression, and genocide.

 

While names dont determine if someone is trashy...there is PLENTY of white trash out there.  The name doesnt determine whether or not someone is trash, the person does.  

You really think people are TRASH? As in garbage? Like they should be thrown out, collected in a truck, buried, or burned?

Yea, I didn't think so. 

MandyWes

I see what you mean about the term "white trash". I've seen people use the terms "trashy", "redneck", "hillbilly". Do you think these are more acceptable terms?

I'm not being snarky, just honestly curious. I think they get the point across without actually saying "white trash".

sunnyday016

MandyWes:

I see what you mean about the term "white trash". I've seen people use the terms "trashy", "redneck", "hillbilly". Do you think these are more acceptable terms?

I'm not being snarky, just honestly curious. I think they get the point across without actually saying "white trash".

Honestly, yes. I find "redneck" or "hillbilly" more acceptable. 

NaHoku

sunnyday016:

You really think people are TRASH? As in garbage? Like they should be thrown out, collected in a truck, buried, or burned?

Yea, I didn't think so. 

I don't know if you know this, but the dictionary has more than one definition for "trash."

Here is a link:

https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/trash

4. A person or group of people regarded as worthless or contemptible 

And also here is what my American Heritage Dictionary (Third Edition) lists as one of the definitions for trash:

3. A person or group held in contempt.

Is it the nicest adjective or word around to describe a name or a person or a group?  No.  Does it mean that people who use the word think that all "trashy" people should be burned or discarded or buried or thrown away?  No.  I think to say that is just a bit of a stretch. 

robinsokj

Ill admit it...I think some people are a complete waste of air.

candy_stefan

My name is Candy and everybody tells me it's a so called "stripper" name.  I don't care though.  I never have, even when i was growing up.  I have NEVER been turned down for a job because of my name.  Every job I have applied for, I got.  And I have had a very successful life IMO.  I have a great loving family, wonderful marriage and I love my job.  And I am very greatful of my named being different.  I could guarentee there weren't any other Candys in the room with me, even at college there wasn't. (I know there are others with the name, just not that common.)  I LOVE my name and who cares if somne people think it is a "stripper" name. 

NolaG1rl

But in that definition it says worthless people.  I don't really think of people as being worthless.  I also don't agree with grouping an ENTIRE group of people together as contemptible.  And let's face it, when we use the term "white trash" we are referring to people in certain situations or with certain backgrounds.  I don't think that's very fair.  It's saying that a group of people that may be in a situation beyond their control are not worth respecting.

LittleMamaB

Good lord...this post is hysterical.

You are arguing over semantics, OP. And being so literal it's ridiculous. LOL. 

NaHoku

NolaG1rl:

But in that definition it says worthless people.  I don't really think of people as being worthless.  I also don't agree with grouping an ENTIRE group of people together as contemptible.  And let's face it, when we use the term "white trash" we are referring to people in certain situations or with certain backgrounds.  I don't think that's very fair.  It's saying that a group of people that may be in a situation beyond their control are not worth respecting.

In general, I agree with you.  Prejudices aren't fair or nice or right.  But I will admit to having them on occasion.  I personally don't use the term "white trash" but I have definitely used "trashy" as an adjective - but I'm an equal opportunist, I think anyone of any race can be trashy   I have used it to describe clothes, names, people, style, whatever.  It doesn't mean that I think there should be some sort of "trash" police who go and burn and bury everyone and everything I deem trashy, which is what the OP seemed to think.

NaHoku

LittleMamaB:

Good lord...this post is hysterical.

You are arguing over semantics, OP. And being so literal it's ridiculous. LOL. 

I was thinking the same thing!  Especially when she said that hillbilly or redneck are far more acceptable.  Isn't the intent the same with all those descriptions? 

LittleMamaB

NaHoku:

LittleMamaB:

Good lord...this post is hysterical.

You are arguing over semantics, OP. And being so literal it's ridiculous. LOL. 

I was thinking the same thing!  Especially when she said that hillbilly or redneck are far more acceptable.  Isn't the intent the same with all those descriptions? 

Exactly. Apparently I missed the list of acceptable insults.