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Would this be ok with you Re: your DH

DH & I had a huge difference of opinions which turned into a debate on this subject. Here's the back story:

DH has a friend who is married with 2 children. He works at a jazz club so he comes into contact with and talks to many people while at work. No problem there. The issue is that he had the phone number of a lady that was at the club and had called her about 3 or 4 times outside of work (when he was not around his wife). The wife asked him who is this lady and why are you calling her. The friend said the lady is a co-worker and it's nothing. Wife contacted the lady via text and the lady confirms she's not a co-worker, she's actually a patron of the club, and there is nothing going on. But this girl is 21 years old, the friend is early 40's.

The disagreement that DH and I had on the subject is, the husband has no need to accept or ask for a female's phone number and contact her outside of work, totally unwork related, when he's in private away from his wife. Plus the little white lie about her not actually being a co-worker. If it was a guy who's phone number he got, it would be different - double standard - maybe but still different.

So, would you be ok with DH accepting/asking for the phone# of a female that he came in contact with thru his job but he actually has no valid reason to contact this person other than to "just talk"?

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  • no I wouldn't and I would be even less okay with the "white lie" and only contacting her when the wife wasn't around

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  • No. ?I would not be okay with that.?
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  • Hell no!  i wouldn't be ok with that.  And either would DH if the situation was reversed.
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  • No that would not be ok with me! And to me, it makes it even worse that he lied about who she is!
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  • I would have  HUGE problem with the lie, which instantly makes him seem guilty of something.  Beyond that, it wouldn't bother me.  DH and I both have friend of opposite sex that we've met through work, sports, etc and I don't keep tabs on his cell or anything (b/c that's totally crazy controlling) so he very well may call up friends...I don't know.  I DO know that he spends every free second with us for the most part and he's never gone sneaking around to call anyone male or female. 
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  • Absolutely not. And the fact that he told a white lie about her being a co-worker makes me think that there is something more going on than either of them are admitting to.
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  • Um, no.  That would = throat punch in my house.  There is a line that has been crossed in that situation.
  • NO!  That is not cool.  There's no reason for a married man to be "talking" to a young, single girl like that.
  • I would not be okay with that at all.  Nor would I be okay with being lied to.
  • imageAmrice78:

    no I wouldn't and I would be even less okay with the "white lie" and only contacting her when the wife wasn't around

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  • No way!! I wouldn't be okay with at all!!
  • I agree with PP i would have more of the issue with the lie hes telling.  But my DH and I have a very honest relationship and if we were to talk to other people we would tell each other the truth.  If someone IMO is tellling a "white lie" theres probably more interest there then the DH is telling the wife.
  • It depends on the kind of relationship you have.  If both (both!) couples have friends of the opposite sex, I think it's fine for them to talk to people who "they don't have a valid reason to talk to" - that's how you make friends.  But if I found out my husband lied about how he knew this person (and the age difference was such that I doubted they were really just friends) then there'd be hell to pay.

    But I do kinda question the wife for getting involved like that.  Texting the other person before just asking your DH about it seems pretty dramatic.
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  • My DH is a librarian and comes into contact with lots of different people, and he has peoples numbers for a variety of reasons.

    The number itself wouldn't be my problem, but lying about who she is is a HUGE red flag.

  • imageMrsG2B07:
    Hell no!  i wouldn't be ok with that.  And either would DH if the situation was reversed.

    That's exactly what I told DH! No man would like for their wife to start asking for or accept phone numbers of another man and accept the explanation that there's nothing going on.

  • ABSOLUTELY NOT.  Just as I would not give my phone number to another man.  Sorry, but when you are married, the rules change, IMO.

    My SIL had an almost identical story.  Her DH has a son from a previous relationship who is very involved with community ice hockey.  He became friendly with the mom of one of the other players.  My SIL found texts from her to him that said, "miss you".  Uh, NO.  My SIL was pissed and found this totally unacceptable. 

    If you need friends while you are married, you can find friends on the same sex.  You don't become friendly with random women that you meet at work, bars, etc. 

  • imagecitygirl_:
    NO!  That is not cool.  There's no reason for a married man to be "talking" to a young, single girl like that.

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  • The LIE is what would piss me off. The phone calls wouldn't be that big of a deal if I knew about them. DH has a hand full of women friends and they lean on him sometimes. His ability to be helpful is charming to me, and I don't feel threatened by this - but that is probably because I know the girls he talks to.
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  • No, I wouldn't be okay with him getting a phone # from a girl at work. Of course, DH works in housing at a University, so it could also get him in a lot of trouble at work too, since he has access to all of the dorm and apartment rooms.

    Beyond that though, I would be LIVID about the lie. If there is truly nothing going on, then you have no reason to lie about, IMO. 

  • I would not be ok with it.  If it was no big deal there would be no need to lie about it.
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  • imagevanillacourage:
    It depends on the kind of relationship you have.  If both (both!) couples have friends of the opposite sex, I think it's fine for them to talk to people who "they don't have a valid reason to talk to" - that's how you make friends.  But if I found out my husband lied about how he knew this person (and the age difference was such that I doubted they were really just friends) then there'd be hell to pay.

    But I do kinda question the wife for getting involved like that.  Texting the other person before just asking your DH about it seems pretty dramatic.

    The wife did ask him first to give him the opportunity to tell the truth but when he said she was a co-worker, the wife knew better. She knows basically everyone he works with and she "just knew" based on his answers being so vague and generic. I guess wife's intuition.

  • The only way that I would be ok with it is if MH was goign to be doing an event for the woman outside the club. If it was not owrk related then it would look funny to me. And why lie about it too?
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  • imageAudreyGolightly:

    imagevanillacourage:
    It depends on the kind of relationship you have.  If both (both!) couples have friends of the opposite sex, I think it's fine for them to talk to people who "they don't have a valid reason to talk to" - that's how you make friends.  But if I found out my husband lied about how he knew this person (and the age difference was such that I doubted they were really just friends) then there'd be hell to pay.

    But I do kinda question the wife for getting involved like that.  Texting the other person before just asking your DH about it seems pretty dramatic.

    The wife did ask him first to give him the opportunity to tell the truth but when he said she was a co-worker, the wife knew better. She knows basically everyone he works with and she "just knew" based on his answers being so vague and generic. I guess wife's intuition.



    Well, yeah, so then you have another conversation where you say "I know you're lying, you sack of sh!t.  WTF is really going on?".  To have one convo where your husband denies it and then text the other woman is sorta Jerry Springer.
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  • No, sir.  We both have friends of opposite sexes and it is known that we may talk to them, but there is usually some purpose and we both know the friend.  Lying is not acceptable either. Red flag when it comes to a relationship outside the marriage. 
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    imageAudreyGolightly:

    imagevanillacourage:
    It depends on the kind of relationship you have.  If both (both!) couples have friends of the opposite sex, I think it's fine for them to talk to people who "they don't have a valid reason to talk to" - that's how you make friends.  But if I found out my husband lied about how he knew this person (and the age difference was such that I doubted they were really just friends) then there'd be hell to pay.

    But I do kinda question the wife for getting involved like that.  Texting the other person before just asking your DH about it seems pretty dramatic.

    The wife did ask him first to give him the opportunity to tell the truth but when he said she was a co-worker, the wife knew better. She knows basically everyone he works with and she "just knew" based on his answers being so vague and generic. I guess wife's intuition.



    Well, yeah, so then you have another conversation where you say "I know you're lying, you sack of sh!t.  WTF is really going on?".  To have one convo where your husband denies it and then text the other woman is sorta Jerry Springer.

    Well, these are sorta Jerry Springer folks so the friend is lucky texting the girl is all the wife did.

  • No, no and more no. 

    DH and I actually had a conversation about something similar last week.  My BF's boyfriend was getting texts from another girl and lied about it.  DH agreed that if you are in a relationship there isn't a reason to be speaking to a single person of the opposite sex just to "talk". 

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  • No, that would be unacceptable in our marriage.  My H would lose his shit_if I was the one with a random dude's phone number, who was calling him while H wasn't around, fibbing about where I know said random dude.  We have total trust in one another's faithfulness, but we also are totally faithful....
  • NO. I would not be ok with that AT ALL. His "white lie" is nothing other than a blatant outright LIE. There is nothing little about it... he intentionally deceived his wife. IMO all of these actions are leading up to an affair. He's definitely laying the groundwork for one at least. He's looking for something.
  • imageAmrice78:

    no I wouldn't and I would be even less okay with the "white lie" and only contacting her when the wife wasn't around

    ditto.

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  • No way. DH would be going to sleep at his mother's house.
  • No, I would not be ok with that.  There seems to be no appropriate reason for him to be speaking with her. Also, the lie really bugs me.  Why are you lying?  You are trying to hide something.  HUGE red flag.  I hate lies, even small ones.  If he will lie about something small (i.e. how he knows her) what else will he lie about?
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  • I'm seriously AMAZED at some of you.  You seriously think that once you're married no one in the relationship should have any contact with single members of the opposite sex?  Really?  Ever?

     My best friend in the whole world is a single guy and we've been BFFs since way before I was married and I would laugh hysterically at DH if he told me I couldn't talk to him "for no reason."  Luckily I don't have a BSC husband.  I also don't think we're not being faithful b/c  we have friends of the opposite sex that we talk to.  Believe it or not there are men and women out there that believe friends can be friends without jumping each other bones. Period.

     But like I said before, the LIE is what's bothersome.  There's no reason for lying...ever.

     

     

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  • BTW, I just have to emphasize these are DH's friends not mine.
  • Hell no!  I would be so pissed if I found out DH had called some "co-worker" female just to talk.
  • imagevanillacourage:
    It depends on the kind of relationship you have.  If both (both!) couples have friends of the opposite sex, I think it's fine for them to talk to people who "they don't have a valid reason to talk to" - that's how you make friends.  But if I found out my husband lied about how he knew this person (and the age difference was such that I doubted they were really just friends) then there'd be hell to pay.

    But I do kinda question the wife for getting involved like that.  Texting the other person before just asking your DH about it seems pretty dramatic.

    My thoughts exactly!

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    imageAudreyGolightly:

    imagevanillacourage:
    It depends on the kind of relationship you have.  If both (both!) couples have friends of the opposite sex, I think it's fine for them to talk to people who "they don't have a valid reason to talk to" - that's how you make friends.  But if I found out my husband lied about how he knew this person (and the age difference was such that I doubted they were really just friends) then there'd be hell to pay.

    But I do kinda question the wife for getting involved like that.  Texting the other person before just asking your DH about it seems pretty dramatic.

    The wife did ask him first to give him the opportunity to tell the truth but when he said she was a co-worker, the wife knew better. She knows basically everyone he works with and she "just knew" based on his answers being so vague and generic. I guess wife's intuition.



    Well, yeah, so then you have another conversation where you say "I know you're lying, you sack of sh!t.  WTF is really going on?".  To have one convo where your husband denies it and then text the other woman is sorta Jerry Springer.

    No way, dude. I wouldn't waste my time trying to dig a believable story out of a known liar. I would have done the same thing.

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    I'm seriously AMAZED at some of you.  You seriously think that once you're married no one in the relationship should have any contact with single members of the opposite sex?  Really?  Ever?

     My best friend in the whole world is a single guy and we've been BFFs since way before I was married and I would laugh hysterically at DH if he told me I couldn't talk to him "for no reason."  Luckily I don't have a BSC husband.  I also don't think we're not being faithful b/c  we have friends of the opposite sex that we talk to.  Believe it or not there are men and women out there that believe friends can be friends without jumping each other bones. Period.

     But like I said before, the LIE is what's bothersome.  There's no reason for lying...ever.

     

     

    um, one of my BFF's is male and I've known him for years and I still talk to him - sometimes in front of DH and sometimes not.  However, the key to that is he's an OLD friend, not some random guy whose number I got and is years younger than I.  That is a line that shouldn't be crossed and the lying is just the icing on the cake.

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  • imagevioletvirgo:

    I'm seriously AMAZED at some of you.  You seriously think that once you're married no one in the relationship should have any contact with single members of the opposite sex?  Really?  Ever?

     My best friend in the whole world is a single guy and we've been BFFs since way before I was married and I would laugh hysterically at DH if he told me I couldn't talk to him "for no reason."  Luckily I don't have a BSC husband.  I also don't think we're not being faithful b/c  we have friends of the opposite sex that we talk to.  Believe it or not there are men and women out there that believe friends can be friends without jumping each other bones. Period.

     But like I said before, the LIE is what's bothersome.  There's no reason for lying...ever.

     

     

    I think the difference is you had your friend prior to meeting/marrying your DH. DH and the wife are actually old college friends and I would have no issue with that, it's just the meeting/talking to/connecting with/getting phone number from/privately contacting a new single female after your married/ lying about your relationship that is an issue 

  • imageAmrice78:

    no I wouldn't and I would be even less okay with the "white lie" and only contacting her when the wife wasn't around

    i dont have to read past this.  this is my answer.

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