i know you've seen it before, but i finally got to read the dog bite post

brandonsfuturewife07

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w75JRWdfrJQ

 this is a dog who, when introduced to the 1 day old newborn, nibbled on his toes, got a proper scolding, and was not roasted over a bonfire, "rehomed" or put down.

sure he gets on my last nerve occasionally and is pretty much Marley in mutt form, but come on people.  dogs have feelings too

oh and, the majority of the time--the dog bite is the child's fault.  like when my MIL's dog bit DS.  just FYI.

(i love a good 3 day old dead horse beating ) 

Michael_Hunter

Is that English?  I think you need more fluids...

brandonsfuturewife07

Michael_Hunter:

Is that English?  I think you need more fluids...

no.

Michael_Hunter

LOL.  Carry on then.   Cute pic of the kid.  

carolinag

i've kept my mouth shut about this one... but it made me lose a lot of respect for a lot of ladies on here. 

and i love that video! what a vicious cattle dog! hehe. i love your pup. i also love that in the "related videos" section there is an nbjenni video of audrey. awesome. 

LynnJones

Just lurking over here but that is such a cute video! I probably could've watched 5 min of that!

Monkeybuttwhat

I didn't get to read it but just heard about it. My dog has nipped at DD a few time we just work with them all the time together. When I can't be there watching every move they are separated. I would never rehome my dog.

carolinag

Monkeybuttwhat:

I didn't get to read it but just heard about it. My dog has nipped at DD a few time we just work with them all the time together. When I can't be there watching every move they are separated. I would never rehome my dog.

why working with the dog, hiring a behaviorist, etc never entered the picture, but bbqing was an acceptable idea is just so wrong to me on so many levels.  

brandonsfuturewife07

carolinag:

Monkeybuttwhat:

I didn't get to read it but just heard about it. My dog has nipped at DD a few time we just work with them all the time together. When I can't be there watching every move they are separated. I would never rehome my dog.

why working with the dog, hiring a behaviorist, etc never entered the picture, but bbqing was an acceptable idea is just so wrong to me on so many levels.  

she has a long history of MIL hate.  not surprised.

Monkeybuttwhat

I read the first page just now wow 5 pages. I just don't have time I have to run out now that DH is home finally and get more supplies for DD (she has been really sick with a cold).

Anyways I wonder if it was just written in anger or if she rally wanted to put the dog down

I mean don't get me wrong I want to beat the life out of my dog when she has snapped at DD but I don't. I just know it is a thing I have to handle and keep working with the dog on. Aww DD just walked across the room unprompted with her walker. Sigh so cute.

 

Monkeybuttwhat

Maybe she just really wanted to eat the dog. I heard it was a delicacy in many countries.

Heather R

I'd like to state for the record that LotR told me I was overreacting when I was upset and asked for suggestions with which to approach the director when Jack's head got smushed between a door and a wall at daycare.  But roasting a dog on an open flame = logical.

brandonsfuturewife07

Heather R:

I'd like to state for the record that LotR told me I was overreacting when I was upset and asked for suggestions with which to approach the director when Jack's head got smushed between a door and a wall at daycare.  But roasting a dog on an open flame = logical.

noted & filed.

Monkeybuttwhat

I will be back. Don't go anywhere. All of you stay right here until I get back from the drug store.

Michael_Hunter

Trapper Keeper or Modesque spreadsheet?

IckyThump

carolinag:

i've kept my mouth shut about this one... but it made me lose a lot of respect for a lot of ladies on here. 

It mostly just reinforced the lack of respect I already have for a lot of ladies here.

Mrs.tlcS

IckyThump:

carolinag:

i've kept my mouth shut about this one... but it made me lose a lot of respect for a lot of ladies on here. 

It mostly just reinforced the lack of respect I already have for a lot of ladies here.

There were a couple surprises, but I mostly agree with you here, Icky.

Michael_Hunter

IckyThump:

carolinag:

i've kept my mouth shut about this one... but it made me lose a lot of respect for a lot of ladies on here. 

It mostly just reinforced the lack of respect I already have for a lot of ladies here.

 

I think you need to take a hottub and relax.  I just opened a new box of wine, lovely lady...

ladeebri

Would anyone mind sharing the link to this post?  Pretty please?

carolinag

Monkeybuttwhat:

I will be back. Don't go anywhere. All of you stay right here until I get back from the drug store.

augh! why do i have to leave and go to the vet now?!? oh wait - it's because my dog is freaked out b/c the boy is moving all over the place now and we wanted to discuss making sure that the fear doesn't turn into aggression and see if an animal behaviorist is a good idea. because that is what a responsible pet owning decision is. and i would have no problem asking my MIL to do the same with her dog. i would however refrain from making doggy fried rice with her pups. 

MrsTotty

I think the whole post got out of hand ... just like all the pet posts do.  The whole 'dog bit = rape' thing was just ridiculous IMO. 

Heather R

MrsTotty:

I think the whole post got out of hand ... just like all the pet posts do.  The whole 'dog bit = rape' thing was just ridiculous IMO. 

Yes, that-- really bad false analogy. 

emiliemadison

brandonsfuturewife07:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w75JRWdfrJQ

 this is a dog who, when introduced to the 1 day old newborn, nibbled on his toes, got a proper scolding, and was not roasted over a bonfire, "rehomed" or put down.

sure he gets on my last nerve occasionally and is pretty much Marley in mutt form, but come on people.  dogs have feelings too

oh and, the majority of the time--the dog bite is the child's fault.  like when my MIL's dog bit DS.  just FYI.

(i love a good 3 day old dead horse beating ) 

Re: bolded portion.

I disagree. Most dog bites are the fault of parents and dog owners. Babies cannot be blamed for doing something they didnt know they werent supposed to do and it's the parents (or caregiver's/dog owners) responsibility to keep the kids safe from the dog AND the dog safe from the kids. 

lanie26

MrsTotty:

I think the whole post got out of hand ... just like all the pet posts do.  The whole 'dog bit = rape' thing was just ridiculous IMO. 

Yeah, she said she imagined hurting the dog and told MIL that the child would never be in the same room ever again as the dog. The rest was up to her.

Did it really need to get to rape analogies and the P&F crowd getting high and mighty? Did it? 

Stupid thread that escalated. Was obviously a slow day. 

Also, I will never own a dog.  For this reason and a myriad of others. I'm just not a dog person. 

*Bre*

lanie26:

MrsTotty:

I think the whole post got out of hand ... just like all the pet posts do.  The whole 'dog bit = rape' thing was just ridiculous IMO. 

Yeah, she said she imagined hurting the dog and told MIL that the child would never be in the same room ever again as the dog. The rest was up to her.

Did it really need to get to rape analogies and the P&F crowd getting high and mighty? Did it? 

Stupid thread that escalated. Was obviously a slow day. 

Also, I will never own a dog.  For this reason and a myriad of others. I'm just not a dog person. 

hell yeah to this. I am not a dog person in many ways. I'm trying to talk H into letting me get an African Gray Parrot for linguistics research, though......he's not going for it.

caymanbride

I didn't weigh in that day, but the whole thread made me sick. The rape/dog bite thing was terrible, and so was the amount of ladies who said the dog should be put down.

Flame away, but one of my dogs has nipped/bit DS in the face. DS hit him while he was sleeping, and my dog reacted. DS wasn't hurt at all, just scared for a moment. I actually felt worse for my dog, who is a rescue, and we have no idea what happened to him before we rescued him in March. We addressed it with BOTH the dog and my DS, and it was unfortunate, but I would NEVER kill my dog because of that. Babies and animals should be supervised at all times, and even then accidents can happen. IMO, there are about a thousand solutions to that situation before putting the dog down.

 

Monkeybuttwhat

Okay I am back. I need to read through that whole thread and see this dog bite rape stuff lol. The pet girls are crazies. Like the ones saying I needed to break into that house omg. I don;t really get how if it is MILs dog though she can make the call on it getting put down.

brandonsfuturewife07

Monkeybuttwhat:

Okay I am back. I need to read through that whole thread and see this dog bite rape stuff lol. The pet girls are crazies. Like the ones saying I needed to break into that house omg. I don;t really get how if it is MILs dog though she can make the call on it getting put down.

i'm pretty sure lotr compared it to rape.  i only skimmed though.

*blondiem*

I think we all need to consider the source.

/nuff'said.

Monkeybuttwhat

Ok I read through all the way finally. Sorry with DD being sick I have only been here when I can. OMG I know what you all mean about your opinions changing of people. Wow.

*blondiem*

Monkeybuttwhat:

Okay I am back. I need to read through that whole thread and see this dog bite rape stuff lol. The pet girls are crazies. Like the ones saying I needed to break into that house omg. I don;t really get how if it is MILs dog though she can make the call on it getting put down.

LOL What happened to Stellas? Did she crawl back under her ML rock?

LoriFalce

Hmm. People may have lost respect for me.

I guess I can handle that. A dog that bit my kid would still be a dog that was not in my house. And someone that owned a dog that bit my kid would not be having my kid in their house again.

I think there's a big difference between a not-yet-2yo picking up a dog toy (and correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't see anyplace in there that Oliver took the toy away from the dog, only that he touched the toy) and an older kid doing something antagonistic or cruel. My ex's cousin got his lip bit off by their chow because he kicked the dog while it was eating. I'd have bit the little a$$hole, too. Didn't stop the state dog warden from putting the dog down when the hospital called him.

Perhaps the fact that I grew up on a farm makes it difficult for me to see animals the same way pet people do. Our animals were respected for their power and cared for and shown affection. But when, ultimately, you intend to eat Betsy, it's best to not get too attached to her.

*blondiem*

LoriFalce:

Hmm. People may have lost respect for me.

I guess I can handle that. A dog that bit my kid would still be a dog that was not in my house. And someone that owned a dog that bit my kid would not be having my kid in their house again.

I didn't lose any respect for you. None. If it matters. Everything you said here is quite similar to the way that I feel.

MrsTotty

LoriFalce:

Hmm. People may have lost respect for me.

Yeah, maybe it was me instead?  IDK, everyone has their view and has to do what they think is best for their whole family ... but there is no way a dog that bit my toddler on the face would be staying in my house.  Nope. 

brandonsfuturewife07

LoriFalce:

Hmm. People may have lost respect for me.

I guess I can handle that. A dog that bit my kid would still be a dog that was not in my house. And someone that owned a dog that bit my kid would not be having my kid in their house again.

I think there's a big difference between a not-yet-2yo picking up a dog toy (and correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't see anyplace in there that Oliver took the toy away from the dog, only that he touched the toy) and an older kid doing something antagonistic or cruel. My ex's cousin got his lip bit off by their chow because he kicked the dog while it was eating. I'd have bit the little a$$hole, too. Didn't stop the state dog warden from putting the dog down when the hospital called him.

Perhaps the fact that I grew up on a farm makes it difficult for me to see animals the same way pet people do. Our animals were respected for their power and cared for and shown affection. But when, ultimately, you intend to eat Betsy, it's best to not get too attached to her.

because we have an unpredictable (around strangers) dog, he is always in his crate when we have company that he isn't familiar with.  honestly, he does the best with kids--hates men, but i would never gamble on it.

and i haven't lost any respect for you.  i just think certain people are too quick to jump all over putting a dog down, when really, all it has probably done is shown a little nip, and in reality said people want to punish the owner.  that is just sad.

 

LoriFalce

Glad to hear the "I Love Lori" fan club isn't losing too many members.

And BW, I can see what you're saying, but don't you think if someone you already didn't like had a dog that bit S it would really push you into lynch-mob mode? I know that if something happened to Joseph while he was with my FIL that could just as easily have happened when Joseph was with my mother, it would make me a lot crazier.

 

Monkeybuttwhat

Lol I never see Stellas around. Maybe she is o pets or 6-12 still.

Lori you're fine. It was a few people I don't even recognize. 

Mrs.tlcS

LoriFalce:

A dog that bit my kid would still be a dog that was not in my house. And someone that owned a dog that bit my kid would not be having my kid in their house again.

This is a reasonable response.  While I personally would be unlikely to rehome a pet of mine based on the circumstances surrounding the OP, I don't get all bent out of shape when people make an honest effort to safely and responsibly rehome their own pets.  If it were a dog not in my own home, I wouldn't be opposed to the dog being crated or in a closed off space while DD was in the home.  I get that some people aren't comfortable with the same restrictions/accommodations that I'm comfortable with.

I think though, that you eventually got my point - the vulgar descriptions of how the dog should be put down, even if said in jest - makes me feel sick.  Even animals raised specifically for slaughter deserve a certain level of respect, kwim?  Pets are generally adopted with the intent that the owner will care for the animal's needs - including training if necessary.  They should at least garner the same level of respect as those raised to be meat.

Mrs.tlcS

LoriFalce:

Glad to hear the "I Love Lori" fan club isn't losing too many members.

And BW, I can see what you're saying, but don't you think if someone you already didn't like had a dog that bit S it would really push you into lynch-mob mode? I know that if something happened to Joseph while he was with my FIL that could just as easily have happened when Joseph was with my mother, it would make me a lot crazier.

 

But you can see how this isn't on the dog, right? 

LoriFalce

Mrs.tlcS:

LoriFalce:

Glad to hear the "I Love Lori" fan club isn't losing too many members.

And BW, I can see what you're saying, but don't you think if someone you already didn't like had a dog that bit S it would really push you into lynch-mob mode? I know that if something happened to Joseph while he was with my FIL that could just as easily have happened when Joseph was with my mother, it would make me a lot crazier.

 

But you can see how this isn't on the dog, right? 

And yet more socially acceptable to suggest putting down the dog than putting down your MIL.

And more likely to get your husband on board.

Mrs.tlcS

LoriFalce:

And yet more socially acceptable to suggest putting down the dog than putting down your MIL.

And more likely to get your husband on board.

I don't know about that