Is this research credible? Flu vaccine not effective in children under 2

star173

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16437500

I came across this article that states the flu vaccine seemed no more effective than a placebo in children under two. If that's true- why do they offer it to children as young as, what..6 months?

Thoughts?

1MusicMaker

Yeah, this has been posted for a couple of years now on the Dr. Sears website.  I don't know what to make of it, honestly.  DS got his flu vaccine last year, but I was wary of it.  I don't know who to believe!

Geekchick921

The fact that it's posted on the NIH website means it's not bogus information.  However, they state that there weren't nearly as much research conducted on children under two, and that the differences in experimental procedures made comparing the data they DID have virtually impossible, and that more research needed to be done. 

 

lanie26

All that says is that it's a dated study that was not researched well enough.

Is there anything current you can find?

star173

Geekchick921:

The fact that it's posted on the NIH website means it's not bogus information.  However, they state that there weren't nearly as much research conducted on children under two, and that the differences in experimental procedures made comparing the data they DID have virtually impossible, and that more research needed to be done. 

 

Thanks. It looked credible, but every time someone posts something seemingly anti-vax, people say it isn't credible. LOL.

So, are they doing more research? I mean...all vaccines have risks..shouldn't they know for sure they aren't just stabbing kiddos for nothing?

michellibell

Interesting...

 Livi had her flu shot last October and her booster at the beginning of December. She was 9 months old at Christmas and still contracted the flu over the New Year's holiday.

So it didn't work for her...

star173

lanie26:

All that says is that it's a dated study that was not researched well enough.

Is there anything current you can find?

Well, I wasn't really looking for info. So, no I can't find anything current.

I have a question for you- is Jo really smart? My friend has a little girl who is extrodinarily smart and in that picture, Jo has the same....I don't know, look that my friend's DD has.

1MusicMaker

Yes, pretty much people like to say "well, it's not studied well--so it must be safe!!".  I don't understand why the reverse is never considered...

If you are really interested, The Cochrane Collaboration is a great website that studies medical literature.  This podcast is also really interesting from the website; it describes the overall efficiency of the flu shot and anti-viral meds based on pretty current info.

iris427

star173:

Geekchick921:

The fact that it's posted on the NIH website means it's not bogus information.  However, they state that there weren't nearly as much research conducted on children under two, and that the differences in experimental procedures made comparing the data they DID have virtually impossible, and that more research needed to be done. 

 

Thanks. It looked credible, but every time someone posts something seemingly anti-vax, people say it isn't credible. LOL.

So, are they doing more research? I mean...all vaccines have risks..shouldn't they know for sure they aren't just stabbing kiddos for nothing?

The problem is, who wants to offer up their kids for a medical study?  Would you let Kadence be part of a vaccine trial?

Geekchick921

iris427:

star173:

Geekchick921:

The fact that it's posted on the NIH website means it's not bogus information.  However, they state that there weren't nearly as much research conducted on children under two, and that the differences in experimental procedures made comparing the data they DID have virtually impossible, and that more research needed to be done. 

 

Thanks. It looked credible, but every time someone posts something seemingly anti-vax, people say it isn't credible. LOL.

So, are they doing more research? I mean...all vaccines have risks..shouldn't they know for sure they aren't just stabbing kiddos for nothing?

The problem is, who wants to offer up their kids for a medical study?  Would you let Kadence be part of a vaccine trial?

Excellent point, Iris.  Though this might provide some info.  Clicky.

lanie26

star173:

lanie26:

All that says is that it's a dated study that was not researched well enough.

Is there anything current you can find?

Well, I wasn't really looking for info. So, no I can't find anything current.

I have a question for you- is Jo really smart? My friend has a little girl who is extrodinarily smart and in that picture, Jo has the same....I don't know, look that my friend's DD has.

That is so sweet. I think she's smart but she tries to diaper her legless lovey still, so ... who knows?

Geekchick921

Another one on the safety of the regular flu vaccine in children.  That said, both studies I linked seem to be concerned with a specific type of flu vaccine (TIV) which is for the regular flu, not H1N1.  I ASSume this is the typical flu vaccine given to children, but I'm not sure.

Clicky.

chrisnj0614

iris427:

star173:

Geekchick921:

The fact that it's posted on the NIH website means it's not bogus information.  However, they state that there weren't nearly as much research conducted on children under two, and that the differences in experimental procedures made comparing the data they DID have virtually impossible, and that more research needed to be done. 

 

Thanks. It looked credible, but every time someone posts something seemingly anti-vax, people say it isn't credible. LOL.

So, are they doing more research? I mean...all vaccines have risks..shouldn't they know for sure they aren't just stabbing kiddos for nothing?

The problem is, who wants to offer up their kids for a medical study?  Would you let Kadence be part of a vaccine trial?

You would be surprised. Lots of parents enter their kids in trials. It is not as quick enrolling as healthy adult trials, but they get done.