Love and Logic

~GatsbyGirl~

Where is this considered in AP terms??

BetchySprout

Don't know what you mean by your question, but I am a teacher and went to a Love and Logic seminar a few years ago. It was fabulous!

~GatsbyGirl~

I guess I mean ...hmm..Is it something attachment parenting parents would read. I am trying to find a good discipline book that would go with the AP philosophy.

Meg&Jesse

I am listening to the book on cd right now.  There are some concepts I think will be useful.  I like the parts about letting kids have "control" by giving them a lot of choices.  I have started doing this with DS already, although he cannot really answer back.  I have also started using the "oh oh, this is so sad" phrase and hope this catches on...this is the piece about giving empathy before consequences.

On the other hand, there are some things that I wouldn't do.  There is one part about letting your kid get "lost" in the store, so they learn to stick by you (you are supposed to keep watching them around the corner)..but still, I wouldn't do this.

 Anyways, not sure where it all fits with AP, but I will use some of the techniques with DS.

Meg&Jesse

~GatsbyGirl~:

I guess I mean ...hmm..Is it something attachment parenting parents would read. I am trying to find a good discipline book that would go with the AP philosophy.

I would also recommend Happiest Toddler on the Block.  This book focuses on talking in short, understandable phrases (like..."frustrated, want toy") and mirroring the emotions back to your LO.  I liked this book and will also use some of the techniques.  Again, not sure where it fits with AP. 

I also ordered the Dr. Sears discipline book, but have not started reading it yet.

scherza

I am also a teacher and have used Love and Logic in the classroom for years -- it's incredibly effective.

I think it goes well with AP philosophies, as does Happiest Toddler on the Block.  They're about setting boundaries and limits that are enforceable while respecting and acknowledging the child's dignity.  I like that they give you a space as the parent to tell your child that you heard what they said, you understand why they're upset, but that these are the rules.  And with Love and Logic, you never resort to threats or pleading -- it's just "Here are the choices; if you don't choose, then you're telling me I'm free to choose for you."  No power struggle.

cindy453

I have an older version of the book, the toddler L and L... and it suggests spanking for kids younger than three.

Jelliebean1982

The updated Love and Logic actually takes back the view on spanking and goes into why it is wrong.  I use it and it's highly effective! 

ashleyhuney

I think it's great and will be all over L&L when J's a leetle older.  Another req for Happiest Toddler, I think it helps with bridging the months in between babyhood and a toddler old enough to use L&L.

njh514

Love and Logic has saved my life at home and at school. (i teach kindergarten) It is discipline with love and logic at the forefront. (hence the name) Who cares what it is considered. Get it, read it, do it, love it.

Princess_Ariel

I'm currently reading Dr. Sears' (oh, AP guru) The Successful Child. In chapter 8 he says, "Wise parents allow their young ones to make some small decisions in order to satisfy their growing desire for autonomy.  You can offer kids opportunities for choice in many arenas.  Milk or juice? Toast or cereal? (etc.) By offering your child choices in these small daily events, you help her learn how to think critically about her actions. The more practice she has now, the easier it will be for her to make bigger, more important decisions later in life." I know this is only a small part of L&L, but hopefully that helps to put it in perspective.