I don't think it means that they want their babies to be born that early. But I remember 2nd tri and 24 weeks feels like a milestone, knowing that if baby was born after that, survival is a possibility.
I coveted that day. All I wanted in the world was for my LO to have a fighting chance (had a very rough pregnancy with a lot of scares) and even though it wasn't a guarantee, I knew that at least perhaps survival was a possability.
I never once remember ANYONE celebrating it as in "ok, it's cool if baby comes now" but more of a possability of survival.
I sure as heck celebrated Vday. I didn't want my twins early and I don't think these girls want thier babies early. There is a certain comfort knowing you are likely viable. I was hospitalized w/PTL 3 days later. This was a true comfort. I was scared as heck but i knew no matter what they had a chance.
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I also celebrated when we reached that point, albeit naively. 3 days later and D was here. I agree with the pp, I think no mom is hoping for delivery at that point, but finds comfort in the fact that if something goes wrong, at least there is some chance for help.
Yeah, it seems kind of sick to be celebrating it knowing what we know as to the stuff the baby would have to endure. That being said, my water had broke 3 weeks PRIOR to VDay and making it to that day was HUGE and gave me some comfort. Hopefully none of those girls will have to find out why they are naive for celebrating it.
i celebrated. we had a tough pregnancy with complications and threatened hospital bedrest starting at 20w. we were told at 22w that our goal was to make it past 24w.
while 50% isn't great, it's way better than 0%. and while a tough road is no fun, it's better than not being on the road at all.
I celebrated it! I had some of the most ridiculous things happen during my pregnancy. I felt like I could finally relax a little after I hit that milestone.
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My first son was born before 24 weeks and the doctors could and would do nothing to try and save him. I definitely celebrated viability this time around, knowing that if I were going to go into PTL they would do everything they could to help my baby survive. I know 50% survival doesn't sound like much, but compared to 0%, it means the whole world.
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I think the reason it bothers me is because it feels like they're saying "if my baby was born now, everything would be okay." when in reality even if your child lives, everything is NOT okay.. not at birth and maybe not later. It just seems dismissive of what preemies born that early go through.
I think the reason it bothers me is because it feels like they're saying "if my baby was born now, everything would be okay." when in reality even if your child lives, everything is NOT okay.. not at birth and maybe not later. It just seems dismissive of what preemies born that early go through.
I think this is more what I was trying to say. well put.
I couldn't bring myself to celebrate -- my water broke at 23 weeks, and two of my nurses in the hospital made a big deal when I hit 24 weeks. I didn't think it was a very positive thing, especially since the neonatologist had come in my first day to discuss the odds, and made it seem like 25 weeks was the earliest we wanted to even think about. I made it to 25w, 2 days. Just knowing what we went through, I could never celebrate making it to 24 weeks -- the thought of another baby having a 50% "chance" to go through what my son did or 50% chance of dying -- horrible.
I understand that many people have struggled to concieve or carry to term, and that 24 week marker seems so promising, but I wish it was more common knowledge exactly what life for an extreme preemie entails. I am so blessed to have my beautiful son, and thankful that he's doing so well, but i would never wish his path upon anyone.
I was happy when I reached that day. Obviously, I don't want my baby to be born this early... but if she were, I would much rather her have a CHANCE of living than know that she was going to die. I am going to celebrate much more at 28 weeks when the survival rate is much higher... and then pray I get to 37 or more!
I think the reason it bothers me is because it feels like they're saying "if my baby was born now, everything would be okay." when in reality even if your child lives, everything is NOT okay.. not at birth and maybe not later. It just seems dismissive of what preemies born that early go through.
I think the reason it bothers me is because it feels like they're saying "if my baby was born now, everything would be okay." when in reality even if your child lives, everything is NOT okay.. not at birth and maybe not later. It just seems dismissive of what preemies born that early go through.
That's not what it means AT ALL. When I was in the ER at 19 weeks, the doctor told me that if my baby was born that day there would be no chance of survival. When I made it to 24 weeks, you better believe I celebrated. Doesn't mean that I thought everything would be ok having a baby born that premature. Sure, a baby coming that early wouldn't be a walk in the park, but having a chance at life was better than no chance at all. I'll take 50% odds over 0% odds anyday.
OP, I'm sorry you feel this way. Maybe this post can shed some light. (loss mentioned)
I know that with this pg, it was a HUGE day of celebration for me. Trust me, there was nothing naive about it. When I sat there on the hospital bed last October, holding my 23wkr dieing in my arms because they would do NOTHING because he was not "viable" yet, there was nothing that I wouldn't have given to be considered viable.
I have also had 2 other losses, so yes V-day is definitely a day to celebrate and does not mean that everything will be okay, but I will take a 24wkr being given a fighting chance than being told there is no help provided because of a few days. I am able to say that because I was in that position very recently and it is not to be dismissive of the hard road of NICU, but being transported to a level III hospital just to still be told that no life-sustaining measures will be provided despite your baby crying at birth and gasping for breath is nothing to take lightly either. It is a HUGE milestone for me.
to all of those who lost babies so close to viability, I'm truly, truly sorry for your loss. It truly is one of my worst nightmares.
I think that for people who have been through that, of course, hitting 24w is certainly going to feel like a relief.
for me, I picture the climb to full term as a stair case. 24w is certainly a step, but it's not the end of the road.
And I think for a lot of people, they really are clueless what it means to be born at 24w. For those of us who have watched our children struggle for life in the NICU, that celebration just seems.. (pardon the pun) premature.
That was a HUGE milestone for me since I delivered my daughter at 23.5. Celebrating successes during pregnancy is very important regardless if you have had issues or not.
I remember hitting that point (4 weeks later my water broke) I felt like it was a point of celebration, but I remember thinking my real v-day would be his full term birthdate...which being a member here, we all know, didn't happen. I am actually more miffed at the 3rd triers at 34-39+ weeks wishing the baby would come NOW...we all know anything before 40 weeks (and even then) there is the possibility of issues!
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I coveted that day. All I wanted in the world was for my LO to have a fighting chance (had a very rough pregnancy with a lot of scares) and even though it wasn't a guarantee, I knew that at least perhaps survival was a possability.
I never once remember ANYONE celebrating it as in "ok, it's cool if baby comes now" but more of a possability of survival.
That was a huge fear of mine.. I felt so much better after I reached that milestone..
I think it's well intentioned but naive. Plus all 24w means is a 50% shot. I don't know about anyone else, but 50% didn't seem all that great to me.
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i celebrated. we had a tough pregnancy with complications and threatened hospital bedrest starting at 20w. we were told at 22w that our goal was to make it past 24w.
while 50% isn't great, it's way better than 0%. and while a tough road is no fun, it's better than not being on the road at all.
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I think this is more what I was trying to say. well put.
I couldn't bring myself to celebrate -- my water broke at 23 weeks, and two of my nurses in the hospital made a big deal when I hit 24 weeks. I didn't think it was a very positive thing, especially since the neonatologist had come in my first day to discuss the odds, and made it seem like 25 weeks was the earliest we wanted to even think about. I made it to 25w, 2 days. Just knowing what we went through, I could never celebrate making it to 24 weeks -- the thought of another baby having a 50% "chance" to go through what my son did or 50% chance of dying -- horrible.
I understand that many people have struggled to concieve or carry to term, and that 24 week marker seems so promising, but I wish it was more common knowledge exactly what life for an extreme preemie entails. I am so blessed to have my beautiful son, and thankful that he's doing so well, but i would never wish his path upon anyone.
That's not what it means AT ALL. When I was in the ER at 19 weeks, the doctor told me that if my baby was born that day there would be no chance of survival. When I made it to 24 weeks, you better believe I celebrated. Doesn't mean that I thought everything would be ok having a baby born that premature. Sure, a baby coming that early wouldn't be a walk in the park, but having a chance at life was better than no chance at all. I'll take 50% odds over 0% odds anyday.
OP, I'm sorry you feel this way. Maybe this post can shed some light. (loss mentioned)
I know that with this pg, it was a HUGE day of celebration for me. Trust me, there was nothing naive about it. When I sat there on the hospital bed last October, holding my 23wkr dieing in my arms because they would do NOTHING because he was not "viable" yet, there was nothing that I wouldn't have given to be considered viable.
I have also had 2 other losses, so yes V-day is definitely a day to celebrate and does not mean that everything will be okay, but I will take a 24wkr being given a fighting chance than being told there is no help provided because of a few days. I am able to say that because I was in that position very recently and it is not to be dismissive of the hard road of NICU, but being transported to a level III hospital just to still be told that no life-sustaining measures will be provided despite your baby crying at birth and gasping for breath is nothing to take lightly either. It is a HUGE milestone for me.
to all of those who lost babies so close to viability, I'm truly, truly sorry for your loss. It truly is one of my worst nightmares.
I think that for people who have been through that, of course, hitting 24w is certainly going to feel like a relief.
for me, I picture the climb to full term as a stair case. 24w is certainly a step, but it's not the end of the road.
And I think for a lot of people, they really are clueless what it means to be born at 24w. For those of us who have watched our children struggle for life in the NICU, that celebration just seems.. (pardon the pun) premature.
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