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Please help me.
I'm becoming addicted to the AP board. I don't know why. I just keep checking it. I've been researching autism, cosleeping, I already know too much about those wraps..now I know about all wooden high chairs....I'm not even sure I BELIEVE in AP! I just can't help myself!??
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Re: Please help me.
Wooden high chairs? What does that have to do with attachment?
Take up knitting, get a cat, become addicted to a tv show... sounds like you have Sunday morning ennui.
Lol! I tried knitting..I made leg warmers one time and one was wayyyy too big and the other was waayyy too small! I have two kitties and a dog....I'm also a regular on the pets board ;D.?
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The wooden high chairs came along in a post that involved...I think autism and toxins..and families that were anti-plastics (which again, you are right: I'm not sure the AP connection there--but EmmieB was the one who was posting about it).
I do totally have Sunday boredom. I should help my husband with home chores to help get the house ready to move..but I just don't wanna! ?
I love EmmieB she is a wackadoodle but I love her nontheless. Someone has to research all that stuff - otherwise, even though we would not go down that road, I would never even know about it! I like knowing even about the off-road stuff.
No parenting philosophy invented by someone else is 100% for us, including "AP". But I do also enjoy reading through the posts.
I too have sunday boredom. DH is sleeping on the sofa. G is taking his 3-4 hour nap. The cat is sleeping in his little bed. Bottles are washed. House is clean. Laundry is done. It's hot outside but when G wakes up we are going in the pool with him for the first time provided he is not all fussy and cranky - he completely woke up on the wrong side of the crib this morning.
.... let's talk about autism. I find it all really interesting, here are my random thoughts about it:
1) if it is caused by plastic, toxins or vaccines then why does NJ have the highest rates compared to other states? I don't imagine NJ babies are subjected to more plastic and vaccines than Iowa babies.
2) recent study I think came out saying that larger medulla oblangatas are found in those with autism. what would make the brain stem areas larger?
3) what if this is part of human evoluation. we see autism as a detrimental and obviously it feels that way based on how our society is set up and what we value in human interaction but what if this is some form of evoluation ... that's my wackadoodle thought for the day.
I have to make a comment about the plastics. My dad works for a company that makes plastics--containers no less. I've asked him about this situation and he has said it's the biggest media scare campaign ?he's ever seen.?
Now granted he's on the side that's also going to be biased, but he's said "avoid BPA. BPA IS bad." ?
He also said melamine is super scary and avoid that. So I have to think he's not a fool....
::shrugs::: ?
I bring you...wooden high chairs:
https://www.jmxinternational.com/product.aspx?intprodid=4947
and they seem to like a contraption called the Tripp Trapp? Trip Trap..kid trap? I don't know.??
I'm with you about the autism post. No one really knows right. So we can all speculate but if all of 'that' which was posted was true then we would be hearing a lot more about this in the main stream right?
We are doing an alternate schedule of sorts - basically - I just don't want him having more than 2 shots at a time and to separate those based on reactions. Why make him endure 5 shots at once. Why make him endure something that alters his state so much that he would either be fussy for a week, not sleep, over sleep, or lose his appetite? So ours is more about what we believe to be less pain and less side effects.
Until someone can tell me why NJ has a higher rate than everyone else - I can't believe it is about plastics, toxins and vaccines. It has to be something else.
OMG OMG OMG I do love that wooden high chair thought that is a 3-in-1! It's a chair. No, it's a rocking hose. no, it's a school desk! Woot! Okay - I'll calm down now.
I know nothing about a trip trapp but guessing it is all wood - mostly wood and some how going to expose LO to less finishing chemicals and the such.
Not just wooden high chairs, but $250 wooden high chairs. Which makes me think that a lot of these AP posters are so high up Maslow's heierachy of needs that they need to go looking for actual problems to have.
FMLB, I loved your post to Bonzai (or whatever her name is). I'm working in autism right now and I'm pretty convinced that the "conferences" she's talking about aren't exactly medical conferences where the latest research makes its debut, KWIM? More like the ones that the esteemed Jenny McCarthy "headlines."
Jacks--I don't think it's a new phenom--I agree with Fred that it's likely increased awareness and changing DSM diagnostic criteria. As for evolution, well, one of the things that makes us human is our interconnectedness. I'm not curious as to what would happen to society as a whole if we lost our empathy (as have those with severe autism)?
Some states have higher numbers of autism patients because the state provides better/more services (and parents of children with autism move there specifically to benefit). I don't know whether NJ fits that criteria. It's also the epicenter of the US pharmaceutical industry.
Did I say it was new phenom? I agree that changing diagnostic criteria may account for an increase in diagnosed cases. I co-authored a published journal article about that very topic. I was being more light about my random thought about autism. If there really is an increase - then it makes you wonder if there isn't some evoluationary reason. Some studies have shown that it isn't that autistic children are incapable of empathy but how they communicate it is different. As our society becomes more disconnected from face-to-face communication - it makes you wonder how our brains will evolve. Looking at the evolution of our brains and bodies - you can't think that THIS is it. We will continue to evolve in order to survive. I am NOT saying that autism is our next evolutionary phase. I did say, it was my wackadoodle thought of the day.
Our SW and I were talking about the autism cases in NJ yesterday - she said in the elementary school that she works at she is seeing each year an increase in autistic children - the school has a special program for autistsic children. She did not mention whether the kids were transferred in from out-of-state but it is elementary so I doubt it. She said that from her personal standpoint it is un-nerving. Obviously, that is just one person's experience.
Some have also stated that NJ may have higher numbers because it was one of the first states to take the 'increase' seriously and start a "first signs" campaign to help identify children with autistic symptoms.
Who knows. So until we do all we can do is hypothesis.
What Noonecares said. I thought that autism had to do with age of the dad - there was a Washingtonian article about it a couple years ago, and it seemed that all 9 of the kids featured, the mom was past 40 and the dad was past 50 when they were born. I think the article mentioned something about that risk too.
And not to say that autism spectrum disorders are a good thing - but I do have a friend who is a high functioning Asperger's person. He's a really smart guy and a great friend once you get to know him. I really like having someone more blunt than I in my social circle as well.
Where's the post to Bonzai?
Well, I totally called her out, and she posted the conferences she went to. There are some agencies for groups that appear to be biased towards the toxin idea. I didn't look to see if the ones she went to were or not, but they have medical professionals working with them.?
What I thought was so...wrong about Bonzai's post was that it was very clear in her opinion (which is fine I suppose but when you are dealing with a medical issue...one in which I'm pretty sure she's not a professional) you don't just say, "Autism is much more of a toxin issue..I'm just sayin"
I found that to be so?inappropriate?as well as insensitive.?
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Oh..and that's the title of the post... "AUSTISM is much more of a TOXIN issue...Just Sayin.." ?
Jacks, I really think it's a very interesting thought from a philosophical point of view. Sorry if that didn't come across in my response--I am way too lazy to post anything very lengthy and sometimes the brevity takes away from the intent. At some point, I think there will be a backlash to how depersonalized our world has become--I just don't know how long that will take. I'd love to have this discussion IRL, because I am a geek and find it THAT fascinating.
There have been links to autism (and mental illness such as schizophrenia) to age of the Dad--which makes sense, as the genetic material in the gg breaks down, why wouldn't the genetic material in the male portion degrade (for lack of a better term) over time? There is also an increased incidence of autism in children born to women with auto-immune disorders such as Crohn's Disease. But I don't think any real genetic markers have been identified--only come common anomolies.
Which raises another questions--Is autism a single medical condition? Or is it a number of medical conditions that present with similar psychiatriac symptoms for a common diagnosis? Because diagnosis of autism is through DSM-IV criteria, just like mental illness.
Now, THIS conversation is much more interesting than a blanket statement that toxins (and what IS a toxin, anyway) cause autism.
Fred, I looked up that organization as well, and I really question it. There may be physicians involved, but the content doesn't look like good, peer-reviewed science to me.
Gross as it is, there are always people--including physicians--who make money (sometimes gross amounts of money) off others' misfortune. Like the Chicago-area doctor who made MILLIONS administering Lupron injections to children with autism. Pumping them full of hormones (at a nice personal profit) even though the evidence was against what he was doing. And he was a big speaker at some of the autism "conferences."
Baby awakens...
Right, some states are magnets for families with children with autism due to better funding, intervention programs and better education. A local school district has a very high autistic population mainly because families have moved here for the services. There can be a genetic connection, so on goes the cycle.