My teeny little .02 about J + K...

LukeAndAmanda

Even after the previews, that's not what I expected. Has Kate been a b!tch in the past? Yes. Has she been a little overbearing? Absolutely. But under no circumstances does that ever give ANYONE'S dh the right to cheat on them. He looks and acts guilty as sin. This is the least demanding and demeaning I've ever seen her. It's this part of her that makes me feel horrible for her. She makes little comments that makes it sound like she is trying to hard to help their marriage and keep it together. She sounds like she's finally realized how much Jon means to her, and Jon makes it sound like it's just too late. He seems already gone. He's obviously not staying at the house, at least most of the time. She tried saying things to him, like at the end, trying to make him a plate, calling him daddy....I feel horrible for them.

I don't want to go so far as to say "they brought this on themselves", because every person ever been on TV has some of the same issues. But for their sake, and their kids, I hope they decide to work on it. Makes me feel fortunate that I'm not under the constant pressure they are always under.

Mrs.Donkey

My .02 - she's a publicity whore. ?Neither ever came out and confirmed an affair. ?I'm not saying it would be justified if there was one, but she refuses to take any personal responsibility for anything. She's insisting on filming and broadcasting this even though she swears she's doing everything for her kids. ?I don't trust her as far as I can throw her (even though that may be a tad farther post lipo and tummy tuck). ?She is a media hound and knows how to play the game. ?They are both scum for dragging their kids through this. ?Talk about some extreme documentation. ?This goes way beyond the baby books and occasional TV specials.

Tess12

Wait, so their marital problems are being discussed and filmed on the show or am I missing something?

LukeAndAmanda

Yeah, they asked about the status of their relationship, to which Kate replied that she was there everyday that she's not gone, and she's not going anywhere, and Jon said "I'm here for my kids".

blueshirt2003

Tess12:

Wait, so their marital problems are being discussed and filmed on the show or am I missing something?

Yes, they are talking about their marital problems.

bim38106

blueshirt2003:

Tess12:

Wait, so their marital problems are being discussed and filmed on the show or am I missing something?

Yes, they are talking about their marital problems.

wow. that is just horrible for the kids who are getting to the age where they can kind of understand and now the whole world knows and they'll be able to watch it on TV when they're older. There are some things that you really should just keep private. That makes me really sad for those kids!

Tess12

How far in advance do they film this show?  Is this the beginning of the new season?  This seems odd to me.  Didn't Kate just do an interview in which she said the marital stuff wouldn't make it on to the show?

Full disclosure: I don't watch the show and haven't read any of the articles.  I get all my J&K news on the nest, so I don't really know what I'm talking about.  

LukeAndAmanda

Someone said their birthdays and the party was just on the 16th. And that was on the show tonight.

JillAly

My 2 cents worth

He was 22 and she was 24 when they married.  Within 4 years they have 8 kids.  Forget how she has treated him.  Their ages, stress of multiples and the financial burden alone would break down many marriages.  Yes, there are young people who marry and do great.  But look at him - he's very immature in a lot of ways and clearly wasn't ready for it. 

He's said repeatedly he was happy with 2 and didn't want another.  Kate did...and they got 6 more.  There is so much resentment there.  It doesn't matter how much he loves the kids - he can't handle it.  Kate handled that part much better.  Add to it how she treats him (partly he needs a fire lit under his butt to do stuff and partly it's over the top) and he's just checked out of the marriage.  That's probably why he (if it's true) starting hooking up/hanging out with a 23 year old- someone much younger than him- and more his maturity level. 

The bottom line is he has 8 kids and needs to be responsible for them.  Running to his mom's house isn't helping.  I'm not a fan of Kate's- she has become spoiled and self-absorbed-  but everyone has felt sorry for him for a long time and I just don't get that either.  He either needs to grow a backbone to stand up to her or stop complaining. 

Tess12

LukeAndAmanda:

Someone said their birthdays and the party was just on the 16th. And that was on the show tonight.

May 16th?  How can they turn over shows that fast?  Is it the evening news?!

LukeAndAmanda

Their actual birthday was the 10th.

LoriFalce

Guilt, by definition, implies remorse. He looks miserable, not because of what he may or may not have done, but because he feels bad about what he may or may not have done. It's not like he's sitting there rolling his eyes, telling her to get over it.

She's the one who doesn't look guilty, and regardless of who did what first, even if she didn't sleep with her bodyguard, shouldn't there be some remorse? Wouldn't you feel that some of this could be laid at your doorstep, rather than seeing yourself as a martyr to the whole situation?

Frankly, I dislike the show, the situation, the hype, etc. If everyone on here wasn't talking about it, I wouldn't be watching, but damn it, I have to participate.

I don't think either of them has a right to feel victimized by the situation. While they already had very small twins, they had fertility treatments that resulted in a crazy number of kids. They chose to proceed with having sextuplets. They chose to allow the world into their home. They chose to sacrifice their family for fame. They chose to place their individual desires before their family as a whole.

There were choices constantly along the road for the last six years. At every step, they made selfish decisions. What goes around, comes around. It just sucks that the people who will ultimately be bitten in the a$$ by that selfishness are eight little kids.

blueshirt2003

I am sure that Kate and Jon definitely at this point regret doing the show...

 

utgirl2

Actually aunt Jodi says that kate is the one who cheated first with her body guard . ?Jodi and her husband also say that she is the one who came to Jon and said it was over between them. ?Check out the video link below with Kates brother and his wife Jodi.

https://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/05/exclusive-interview-jon-and-kate-shocker-her-brother-says-their-marriage-over

Madringal

I agree that Jon couldn't not have looked more guilty when he said he never cheated on Kate.  He wan't even looking at the camera.  Way obvious.  But I did feel horrible for him when he said "one day my kids are going to google me".  What an awful feeling to know that there is all this "stuff" about you out there that you can never take away.  But they way he ended the show was almost cruel to Kate.

JDB3358

I have watched the show from pretty much the beginning.  The whole situation is very sad.  While I do feel sorry for Jon (the way Kate treats him, having that many kids that he wasn't ready for, being roped into another season against his wishes, etc.) I would be pissed at DH if did not lift a finger to help me with DD's birthday party.  The way the show looked last night, she did all the planning, preparing, setting up, etc and all he did was show up.  DH didn't have much to do with the planning of DD's birthday, but atleast he was there to help me decorate and unload stuff out of the car for one kid.  I could not imagine doing all of that with 8 kids and having to ask my friends/staff for help because DH was off doing what he wanted.