I would expect a 3 1/2 year old to know those things...although it's not too late if he doesn't It's definitely time to start working on those things, though!
DS is almost 2.5 and can count to 10 fairly reliably (but usually says BLAST OFF afterward), knows about 8-10 colors, the same number of shapes, and can name quite a large number of animals.
I would think that you need to start working on those things with him sooner rather than later.
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Ok thanks...my DS (who is the same age) has known these things since he was 2- 2 1/2 so I was quite surprised to learn that my nephew doesn't. But, his mom thinks it's totally. He's not in any type of preschool program and she doesn't think it's important stuff to know right now. Should I say something??
I don't think it's any indicator of intelligence or anything but I would think most moms & certainly any DCP should gently introduce these things in regular conversation. I find it odd, but not sure it's "harmful"--GWIM?
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Joey didn't start talking until Sept of the year he turned 3 (which was November of that year --- so basically started talking when he was 2 months shy of three).
He did not know those things by 3.5. I don't think any of them actually.
He might have been able to count to 10 by then (I think) but by four, he could count to 10 and knew his colors.
I will say that my MIL and mom (who watch my children during the day) can only do so much with them and it wasn't until Joey started preschool/daycare two days a week that he started to talk and know these things.
Honestly, if no one is teaching him these things, how COULD he know?!?! It sounds like she isn't bothered by him not knowing --- which leads me to believe she isn't spending time teaching him!?!?
i used to teach K and some kids came to school not knowing colors or letters. They could all count to 10, but not all recognized numbers.
every child is different. I would NEVER tell someone their kid should "know these things" and that she should work on them.... that is not your place to say something.
her child will pick things up as he goes through the next couple years and if he doesn't learn it then- he'll learn it quickly in K.
dd's preschool is all about when the child is ready. the director stated research regarding literacy. the country with the highest literacy rate (I believe it was norway) does not have structured requirements for schools until after age 7. it's all learning through play. now if mom doesn't play by singing the alphabet or playing with shape puzzels.. then the child won't know these things. is it necessary for a child to know these things by age 3 1/2... no. are kindergartens requiring more now... many are.
maybe she tries and he's not interested yet. dd isn't interested in writing letters yet.. she doesn't recognize many numbers yet. she's just not interested... it's better to not frustrate them (in doing so making learning a miserable experience) and let them learn by play/experience.
Hmmm....I would probably expect a 3.5 yr old to know those things. DD has known all of those for at least a few months and she is 2 1/2.
I'm not an expert and I am sure it wouldnt be seen as "being behind". I would probably just start working on it...these kiddos pick up things fast! : )
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Children learn things when they are excited and engaged in the lesson-plan. Those things are such rote memorization that unless presented in a way that really engages them to learn, I think it's fine if they don't know them yet. These are things they will learn eventually. You never hear people say, "He would have been SO successful...if only he learned his colors!". Figuring out what interests your son first and how you can use that to help teach him will benefit you both.
For example, Ben wasn't up on his colors and no amount of quizzing/pointing out/etc. would get him to pay attention when I tried to work on it. He learned the colors he liked the best(red/blue/green) on his own. The way he learned the rest was by choosing which color of OtterPop he wanted to eat or which color paint he wanted use!
The same thing happened with shapes. He couldn't care less about naming shapes I'd point out. When I'd draw them for him myself, he loved it! He's learned many shapes by name by me drawing them first now. We're doing the same with letters and numbers.
Another way I'm helping him with his numbers is by letting him press the buttons for me on the microwave. He loves to help cook, and it's been a great tool for teaching him numbers by sight.
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I would think they would know all those things...at least mine does and I don't think he is gifted or anything. But I am sure if you start working with him, he will pick up on it. Kids absorb information like a sponge!
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My DD is almost 2 and knows the basic colors (the 8 in a pack of crayons at least), has just started counting to 10 semi-reliably, and can name basic shapes - including a pentagon. She can say some chunks of the alphabet, but it'll be a while before she can sing the whole thing (but she keeps trying!)
I don't feel that I ever "worked" on these with her, she just picked them up. I do narrate a lot of what we're doing during the day, and really that's how she picked up most of it.
If you want to help your nephew, how about just giving birthday/christmas presents that are geared at learning? Like DD learned her shapes from a Melissa and Doug shape puzzle... or counting books and alphabet books, if he doesn't have those things.
My nephew did not talk until almost 2.5. He only had about 3 words. But he had a electronic toy that would say "Find the letter E" and he would race over and press it. So even if he doesn't talk much he can still be learning.
Re: Should a 3 1/2 yo know colors, counting to 10, etc?
I think it might be time to start working on it.
Miles kind knows all that (he can count past 20 on his own) but honestly he just started picking up his colors.
Emilia is 2 and know about 5 colors and can count to 15.
Every kid is different. I "work" with both kids daily. We make it a game not learning.
Here's some kindergarten readiness info:
https://www.greatschools.net/cgi-bin/showarticle/md/416
Developmental milestones: age 3
https://www.greatschools.net/cgi-bin/showarticle/3617
Age 4:
https://www.greatschools.net/cgi-bin/showarticle/3618
DS - December 2006
DD - December 2008
DS is almost 2.5 and can count to 10 fairly reliably (but usually says BLAST OFF afterward), knows about 8-10 colors, the same number of shapes, and can name quite a large number of animals.
I would think that you need to start working on those things with him sooner rather than later.
DS - December 2006
DD - December 2008
Ok thanks...my DS (who is the same age) has known these things since he was 2- 2 1/2 so I was quite surprised to learn that my nephew doesn't. But, his mom thinks it's totally. He's not in any type of preschool program and she doesn't think it's important stuff to know right now. Should I say something??
Joey didn't start talking until Sept of the year he turned 3 (which was November of that year --- so basically started talking when he was 2 months shy of three).
He did not know those things by 3.5. I don't think any of them actually.
He might have been able to count to 10 by then (I think) but by four, he could count to 10 and knew his colors.
I will say that my MIL and mom (who watch my children during the day) can only do so much with them and it wasn't until Joey started preschool/daycare two days a week that he started to talk and know these things.
Honestly, if no one is teaching him these things, how COULD he know?!?! It sounds like she isn't bothered by him not knowing --- which leads me to believe she isn't spending time teaching him!?!?
i used to teach K and some kids came to school not knowing colors or letters. They could all count to 10, but not all recognized numbers.
every child is different. I would NEVER tell someone their kid should "know these things" and that she should work on them.... that is not your place to say something.
her child will pick things up as he goes through the next couple years and if he doesn't learn it then- he'll learn it quickly in K.
dd's preschool is all about when the child is ready. the director stated research regarding literacy. the country with the highest literacy rate (I believe it was norway) does not have structured requirements for schools until after age 7. it's all learning through play. now if mom doesn't play by singing the alphabet or playing with shape puzzels.. then the child won't know these things. is it necessary for a child to know these things by age 3 1/2... no. are kindergartens requiring more now... many are.
maybe she tries and he's not interested yet. dd isn't interested in writing letters yet.. she doesn't recognize many numbers yet. she's just not interested... it's better to not frustrate them (in doing so making learning a miserable experience) and let them learn by play/experience.
Hmmm....I would probably expect a 3.5 yr old to know those things. DD has known all of those for at least a few months and she is 2 1/2.
I'm not an expert and I am sure it wouldnt be seen as "being behind". I would probably just start working on it...these kiddos pick up things fast! : )
Children learn things when they are excited and engaged in the lesson-plan. Those things are such rote memorization that unless presented in a way that really engages them to learn, I think it's fine if they don't know them yet. These are things they will learn eventually. You never hear people say, "He would have been SO successful...if only he learned his colors!". Figuring out what interests your son first and how you can use that to help teach him will benefit you both.
For example, Ben wasn't up on his colors and no amount of quizzing/pointing out/etc. would get him to pay attention when I tried to work on it. He learned the colors he liked the best(red/blue/green) on his own. The way he learned the rest was by choosing which color of OtterPop he wanted to eat or which color paint he wanted use!
The same thing happened with shapes. He couldn't care less about naming shapes I'd point out. When I'd draw them for him myself, he loved it! He's learned many shapes by name by me drawing them first now. We're doing the same with letters and numbers.
Another way I'm helping him with his numbers is by letting him press the buttons for me on the microwave. He loves to help cook, and it's been a great tool for teaching him numbers by sight.
My DD is almost 2 and knows the basic colors (the 8 in a pack of crayons at least), has just started counting to 10 semi-reliably, and can name basic shapes - including a pentagon. She can say some chunks of the alphabet, but it'll be a while before she can sing the whole thing (but she keeps trying!)
I don't feel that I ever "worked" on these with her, she just picked them up. I do narrate a lot of what we're doing during the day, and really that's how she picked up most of it.
If you want to help your nephew, how about just giving birthday/christmas presents that are geared at learning? Like DD learned her shapes from a Melissa and Doug shape puzzle... or counting books and alphabet books, if he doesn't have those things.
My nephew did not talk until almost 2.5. He only had about 3 words. But he had a electronic toy that would say "Find the letter E" and he would race over and press it. So even if he doesn't talk much he can still be learning.
Mine can do all of those. ?She doesn't recognize all the letters (but she can recite them). ?She can also spell her name. ??