You CAN get it from your DAD

sweater

I just wanted to write that

But seriously - in regards to the post below about twins skipping a generation, and if you can get the "fraternal twin gene" from your dad.

YES you can! It's a GENE. Sooo your father may carry the gene which means since he doesn't have ovaries, he HIMSELF has no way of producing fraternal twins (nor can he make his partner), but he can pass the gene onto his daughter that allows her to ovulate more eggs.

So yes, a woman can only get that gene from her family (not her husband's) but it can be from HER mom or dad. Now if your husband has fraternals in HIS family, he can pass down to your daughter...get it?

I don't make this up...lots of time in the hospital last year to read about twins.?

nbjenni

"Tis true. My paternal great-grandma, grandma and aunt ALL had fraternal twins. We're crazy ovulators.

FaeryStarGazer

I still don't get it. Your father and his father have no way of contributing to your ovulation. How can he pass on ... wait... in the female sperm? Like if there is a female sperm that hits the egg- that female sperm could come from his mother's genes who might have twinned?

I don't get it.. and stand by men don't count

sweater

FaeryStarGazer:

I still don't get it. Your father and his father have no way of contributing to your ovulation. How can he pass on ... wait... in the female sperm? Like if there is a female sperm that hits the egg- that female sperm could come from his mother's genes who might have twinned?

I don't get it.. and stand by men don't count

It's a GENE in your DNA. So your dad could carry the gene and pass it on to you...you're thinking of it in the wrong way. He's a carrier...that doesn't affect his ovaries (clearly because he has none) but can affect yours. Like many people can "carry" genes with diseases etc, but they themself infact never actually have the disease...does any of this make sense?

It's actually VERY common for it to be passes paternally rather than maternally.

WAIT,,,,let me grab a quote online or something.....?

The gene that fosters?hyperovulation?is passed from parent to child, so a grandmother may pass this gene to her son?but, being a man, this will have no effect on twinning his children. However, he may transfer this gene to his daughter, who could have twins. In this case, twinning does skip a generation.

On the other hand, a woman may inherit this gene from her mother, and pass it onto her daughter, so that both generations have increased chances of bearing twins.

HisLobster

I was thinking the same thing but I couldn't make my brain work to write a post, so thanks!

sweater

MrsLee04:

THANK YOU SWEATER!!!? This frustrates me beyond belief.? We all carry traits that we are not necessarily going to have.? I'm sure plenty of us have female-only characteristics from our paternal grandmothers, right?? Same goes for ovulating ability.? Our fathers don't ovulate, but they can carry and pass on the gene to hyperovulate to us:

https://www.babyzone.com/baby/nurturing/multiples/photos_twin_myths/4

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dear lord...I just used that quote ha ha! It really is stated on all twin-info sites. God I did a lot of reading on twins in the hospital...?

FaeryStarGazer

sweater:

FaeryStarGazer:

I still don't get it. Your father and his father have no way of contributing to your ovulation. How can he pass on ... wait... in the female sperm? Like if there is a female sperm that hits the egg- that female sperm could come from his mother's genes who might have twinned?

I don't get it.. and stand by men don't count

The gene that fosters hyperovulation is passed from parent to child, so a grandmother may pass this gene to her son?but, being a man, this will have no effect on twinning his children. However, he may transfer this gene to his daughter, who could have twins. In this case, twinning does skip a generation.

aaaaaah.... that helps a bit. Where did you find that?

FaeryStarGazer

Well, now what the crap.

"However, only women ovulate. So the connection is only valid on the mother's side of the family. While men can carry the gene and pass it on to their daughters, a family history of twins doesn't make them any more likely to have twins themselves. "

https://multiples.about.com/od/pregnancy/a/familytwin.htm

MYTH #1: Twinning skips a generation.

FACT: Dizygotic or two-egg twinning passes down the female line from generation to generation.(1)

https://parenting.ivillage.com/baby/bmultiples/0,,43wt,00.html

Many people believe that twins "skip a generation." Twinning is passed on as a genetic trait and appears in the women only. If you are a female and your mother had fraternal twins, you would have an increased chance of having fraternal twins yourself. Your brothers would not have an increased chance of having fraternal twins themselves, but they may pass the genetic trait on to their daughters who would then have an increased chance of having twins. This makes it appear that twins skip a generation.

https://www.nomotc.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=67&Itemid=55

It says there is new research about male factors, but I can't find it...

hmmm... *scratching head*

groovygrl

FaeryStarGazer:

I still don't get it. Your father and his father have no way of contributing to your ovulation. How can he pass on ... wait... in the female sperm? Like if there is a female sperm that hits the egg- that female sperm could come from his mother's genes who might have twinned?

I don't get it.. and stand by men don't count

It's really no different than any other trait passed on via fathers, the men pass on half the chromosomes & it doesn't necessarily mean that they can't pass on anything related to being female. I'm not sure if the hyperovulation thing is specifically located on the X chromosome vs the other chromosomes but men can also pass on genetic material related to breast cancer, both the kind that is more related to female breast cancer as well as the kind that is related to breast ca in men & women.

mamaoftwingirls

I got the fraternal twin gene from ny dad...My grandpa on my Dad's side is a twin and my uncle's are fraternal twins.

KLyn

Thank you! ?I knew the info below was wrong as I read it but i couldn't get my thoughts together enough to spell it out!

armo

sweater, i love your new (to me) siggy pic! the boys look so handsome!

lstaylor73

But what if there are NO fraternals on either your mother's side or your father's side?  Does that make me a freak of nature if my guys are fraternal like we think they are?

Mrs. Destructo

L - I am convinced your guys are ID! They look like identical, perfect little dolls!

lajolla09.30.06

Consider me a freak of nature too   We have no twins in my family and being b/g twins they are CLEARLY not ID ... despite what strangers in the grocery store may think ... hehe

 

lstaylor73:

But what if there are NO fraternals on either your mother's side or your father's side?  Does that make me a freak of nature if my guys are fraternal like we think they are?

sweater

Mrs. Destructo:

L - I am convinced your guys are ID! They look like identical, perfect little dolls!

I think you should consider a DNA test in the future - I have a sneaky suspicion they're ID!!!?

tripletmom

So not to make this more confusing, but my dd who is a clomid triplet, has a higher chance of having twins or multiples because her pateranal grandfather is a twin??? 

MandieSueM

Yeah, but the confusion comes in when men say, "Twins run in my family."  Because THAT statement has NO bearing on whether or not YOU will have twins, but yes, your CHILDREN may have that genetic trait.  When we first found out we were having trips my OB asked if twins run in either mine or DH's families - which made me wonder how in the hell would it matter TO ME whether or not DH's family had twins in it (which he doesn't)???  After talking to DH we concluded (on our own) that maybe b/c the quality of sperm could be hereditary, if a woman were to ovulate 2 eggs, really good quality sperm would result in two fertilized eggs, when a poorer quality sperm might be a hit or miss type situation.  Also, studies have shown that folic acid is just as important to a man's reproductive health as it is to a woman's, which is how our trio was conceived (IMO).  DH had been dieting for baseball season, and was eating WAAAYYY more leafy greens than he ever had before (he's not a veggie guy).  The quality of his sperm was so improved that he was able to fertilize both of the eggs I ovulated that month.  This is the only conclusion I can come to that makes sense, especially where we've been together 10 years and have never used BC, and tried for 2 years to get PG with our oldest, but our first go out of the gate the next time around resulted in triplets.  KWIM?