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Re: TWW Tuesday 2/8
Month/Cycle: 16/13
CD/DPO: 26/8
Timing: O-3, O-2, O-1
Typical LP length: 11 days
Testing: Friday?
R/R: long day ahead today, school plus work. But tomorrow I'm nearly off, just at school for a couple hours lol. I'd forgotten just how busy I get during the semester when I also actually get hours at work.
@fantasyflyte good luck making it through your busy day. Moving your O-line to CD18 makes sense.
Month/Cycle: 25/19/2AL
CD/DPO: 18/5
Timing: -1, O, +1
Typical LP length: 16 when on progesterone
Testing: staring 8DPO because I can (and I've never done it before)
R/R: So I ended up posting my spotting questions on R e d d i t's Chinese Medicine subreddit and got a pretty good/through answer. Posting in the spoiler for any inquiring minds.
We'd have to know more about your diagnosis and ideally all the herbs in the formulas to speculate since they're modified, but it seems to be they think Blood deficiency leading to Blood stasis (THSWT) along with dual Kidney deficiency (YGW/ZGW) and Spleen deficiency (BZYQT) leading to Lower Jiao Damp Heat (YDW) based off the formulas.
These are all fairly common formulas used in gynecology, and sometimes there can be some short-term undesirable side effects(called Ming Xuan) but they usually resolve quickly when the diagnosis is correct. The formula you're currently taking for phase 3 is Yu Dai Wan which is based off of Si Wu Tang just like Tao Hong Si Wu Tang, it's generally used more short term in the presence of deficiency, but is still relatively safe to use.
It sounds like your acupuncturist doesn't think it's cause for worry, and it's not uncommon for many women to experience ovulatory bleeding due to sudden changes in hormones, which the herbs will effect profoundly. This would especially be the case if it's light in color and amount which is also common in Deficiency conditions in CM. If this isn't the case or it doesn't stop soon, I'd contact them again for instruction. I hope you see great results!
The good news is that the spotting seems to have stopped; or at least I can't tell anymore since now I'm inputting orange-colored progesterone capsule up my vajayjay so that in itself causes TP discoloration. Yay me.
CS/Q: Nope.
TTC History
TTC#2
Mar 2024 | consult to get established with a new reproductive immunologist (Alan Beer Center)
Apr/May 2024 | required testing & waiting for a protocol
May 2024 | protocol given / decided to go back to my old reproductive immunologist, Dr. Jubiz
Jun / Jul 2024 | more testing, incl. SIS, ultrasound, and endometrial biopsy
Jul 2024 | Dx chronic endometritis; 14 days of 100mg of doxy given
Sep 2024 | Repeat endometrial biopsy; still + for chronic endometritis. 2 more antibiotics + an antiviral
Oct 2024 | Hysteroscopy turned polypectomy; endometriosis consult w/ specialist who confirmed high likelihood of endo based on symptoms and ultrasound; lots of blood tests ordered
Mar 2025 | Endo excision surgery. Stage 3 endo found! Recoveing
Apr 2025 | Planning transfer w/ RE & green light protocol w/ RI; target transfer July or August 2025
May 2025 | Surprise BFP! EDD 1/11/2026
TTC #1
TTC #1 02/2020 - 07/2022
2009 | Dx PCOS; likely a misdiagnosis
07/14/20 | Dx Hashimoto's Thyroditis
07/21/20 | 1st RE appointment
07/2120 - 08/20/20 | so much testing; no signs of PCOS
08/20/20 | Dx Unexplained; AMA
09/08/20 | IUI #1 Clomid + Trigger + Prometrium | BFN
09/30/20 | Urology consult; more testing required
10/2020 | Clomid + OPK + TI + Prometrium | BFN
10/26/2020 | Starting 2nd IUI cycle, with Letrazole and with a new RE / different clinic
11/03/2020 | New Dx "poor egg quality"; IUI cancelled in favor of Trigger + TI + Prometrium | BFN
11/26/2020 | Combo IUI (Clomid + Menopur) + Trigger + Prometrium | BFN
12/20/2020 | Combo IUI (Clomid + Gonal-F) + Trigger | IUI Cancelled due to thin lining; TI only | BFN
01/14/2021 | Combo IUI (Letrazole + Menopur) + Trigger | BFN
02/06/2021 | Switched to a new RE (TEW) ; trying naturally until we complete additional testing
03/14/2021 | Hybrid Double IUI, with Zymot (Letrazole, Gonal-F) + Trigger + Endometrin | Ovulated 4 mature eggs but still a BFN ☹️
04/07/2021 | Natural cycle while we regroup | BFN
04/09/2021 | Employer announces fertility benefits starting 05/01/2021! | Search for a new doctor who accepts insurance
05/10/2021 | New RE consult & plan for IVF
05/13/2021 | Mid-luteal IVF cycle #1 interrupted; had to get cancer genetic screening done to make sure I didn't have the same SDHA gene mutation as MH.
06/10/2021 | Aygestin priming IVF cycle #1; opted to Cx after 9 days of stims since only 5-6/12 follicles responded
07/26/2021 | Attempt #2 at IVF cycle #1 (mid-luteal start): 8 retrieved, 8 MII, 6 fert (1 PN3), 3 Day 5 & 6 blasts: 3AA, 3AA, 6AB; 3 euploid
08/09/2021 | Rest cycle / unmedicated TTC | Shockingly, a BFP! EDD: 5/25/202 | CP at 4w4d
09/23/2021 | IVF cycle #2 (mid-luteal start): 14 retrieved, 13 MII, 11 fert, 5 Day 5 & 6 blasts: 2 x 3AA, 2 x 3AB, 3BB; 2 euploid
11/12/2021 | IVF cycle #3 (mid-luteal start): cancelled due to ovaries being on vacation
12/20/2021 | Rest cycle / unmedicated TTC + Pregmune Immunology Testing; BFN
01/22/2022 | Rest cycle / unmedicated TTC + understanding uncovered immunological issues; BFN
02/18/2022 | Mock transfer cycle! ERA, ReceptivaDx, EMMA/ALICE; start Prednisone to address NK activity
03/16/2022 | Final, "Hail Mary" super-ovulation + TI cycle before FET; BFP! EDD: 12/21/2022 | MMC 05/08/2022
05/20/2022 | D&C; recovering...
06/21/2022 | Trying naturally until October 2022
07/21/2022 | BFP! EDD 04/02/2023; 👦🏼 born on 4/5/2023