Recalls

moguippy

Please use this thread to let others know about recalls you hear about. (Food, baby gear, etc).
Let's try to limit comments so the actual recall posts don't get buried

moguippy

In case you haven't seen the randoms thread, someone posted this panera cream cheese recall due to listeria

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/01/29/health/panera-bread-cream-cheese-recall/index.html

wildtot

Thanks for this thread! 
I got scared reading Panera but luckily i didn’t have cream cheese

moguippy

Been lurking but wanted to share the link someone’s posted in the random thread.   Huge huge recall on eggs

https://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm604640.htm

natalie_1989

Romaine lettuce  https://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2018/o157h7-04-18/index.html

runsomewhere

natalie_1989 said:

Romaine lettuce  https://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2018/o157h7-04-18/index.html

Yikes! I have a pre-made salad with romaine packed for lunch today, now I'm afraid to eat it 

morethanamama

@runsomewhere California doesn't seem to be affected but they are still investigating:(

zande2016

I read it's only for shredded romaine but I'd probably still avoid eating any romaine you haven't personally looked at the packaging for (i.e. from a restaurant or prepared foods) just to be safe

runsomewhere

Yeah...... I think my salad is going in the trash   I would be thinking about it and worrying non-stop if I ate it. 

flockofmoosen3

Good thing I ate both lots of romain lettuce and eggs this week.

michelle_bird

While not a recall, I just read something and thought it best to mention here. The AAP just cimpletcoan investigation of the book about the Baby Wise method of sleep training and feeding and found it negligent. They're recommending all parents to avoid it. Kind of crazy, but the article sites the deficiencies and it makes sense - I never read the book myself and am sure I would have been very "WTF?!" if I had.

zande2016

Hmmm interesting. Babywise advocates cry it out, right? I never read it, and personally don’t believe in cry it out when they’re really little, but curious if this study is saying all cry it out is bad, or if there’s something particular about babywise cry it out that’s bad. 

michelle_bird

I actually clicked on the link to read because I wondered the same thing.  I admit to only skimming the article because I didn't have a lot of time, but what I took away was that Babywise encouraged cry it out in infants starting too early and didn't take into account the baby's size or mother's capacity for milk.  So children are being diagnosed with failure to thrive from parents trying to schedule feedings and cry it out at night for an infant who literally is starving.

It did not mention anything about all cry it out being bad.  

zande2016

That makes sense @MichelleAG05. I think it’s really important to feed on demand when they’re infants. Especially when breastfeeding. I can’t imagine trying to sleep train a newborn, they’re screaming during the night because they’re hungry, not because they want to hang out. 

comealongponds

Yes BabyWise is being decried because they try to put newborns on a set feeding schedule rather than feeding on demand. CIO is a valid sleep training method for older infants but most aren’t ready for that level of sleep training until 4-6m old. Prior to that, babies should always be fed when they’re hungry!

zande2016

Yeah I think we started letting my son cry for a little when he was around 6 months, at that point I was pretty confident he didn't want/need nutrition, just comfort. I can't believe anyone would advocate doing that with a newborn. 

KatyF0813

I've read babywise... I think you'd have to be a bit of an extremist to end up causing failure to thrive.  There is a "goal" of a certain cycle of eat, awake, sleep of (I think.. It's been a long time) every 3 hours... But it stresses that that is a goal... It's been years since I read it though... Maybe I was just reasonable enough to skip over the crazy bits and take away a few ideas? 

sm05-2

Thanks, @MichelleAG05! I got the Babywise book a few months ago and didn't know about this. Do you have a link to the recently completed study? My googling comes up with a link from 1998, but maybe I'm searching for it in the wrong way....

michelle_bird

@sm05-2 - you're right, the link is dated 1998.  Wow - 20 years ago!?!?!  The article was posted by a peds nurse friend of mine and I didn't even pay attention to the date.  My bad!  I still say just go with your gut no matter what you're reading.  

KatyF0813

Hmmm...maybe the copy I read was published after 1998 and its been adapted to be less severe and that's why I didn't notice the crazy? @MichelleAG05 @sm05-2

michelle_bird

For real recall from Kroger on ground beef in some states. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2018/05/03/kroger-ground-beef-among-35-000-pounds-recalled-potential-plastic-bits/576241002/

sm05-2

That could be, @KatyF0813--I think there have been at least a few revisions.

runsomewhere

Have they gotten the romain lettuce thing totally under control yet? I'm still seeing articles advising that you toss or return all romain lettuce. But, it's still being served in restaurants everywhere and I haven't heard any reports of illness recently or locally. I really want a crisp Greek salad but I'm paranoid.  

comealongponds

@KatyF0813 I believe there is a more recent revision that isn’t as hardcore. That said, I’d take anything the authors said with a grain of salt considering their original recommendations were so off base and unsafe. 

noideawhatshesdoing

@runsomewhere I've read that it's romaine from the Yuma, Arizona area that is the culprit. I'm still avoiding it in general though. I don't know how you'd confirm at a restaurant that it isn't from that region.

runsomewhere

@noideawhatshesdoing I've heard that about the region too, but I've also head that like 90% of our romaine is from that region. I would assume restaurants would pull anything that could give people e. coli and I haven't heard or anyone getting sick from it in CA. 

wildtot

But wait there’s more...
https://www.awesometips.info/random/alert-nationwide-listeria-outbreak-affects-vegetables-walmart-safeway-trader-joes-heres-complete-list/

flockofmoosen3

So are broccoli heads included in the Listeria outbreak? I just bought some at Aldi this week...but the article looks like it's just the packaged chopped up stuff right?

I have been craving fruits and veggies like crazy and it's frustrating that they are always contaminated with something just by the nature of how they grow...in the dirt. It can't be helped...and neither can my desire to eat half a cantelope in one sitting.

flockofmoosen3

@wildtot I remember hearing horrible things via my BMB about the Babywise book when DD1 was born only 4 years ago. At the time I read about the sleep training they recommend in the book and it was easy to see that a new parent desperate for sleep could take the book seriously and literally (why wouldn't you) and could accidentally hinder their newborn baby's growth. STTN is not a typical expectation for BF babies at all for a few months because they need to eat so frequently and STTN is defined as 5 hours straight...which isn't what I recall was the expectation set in the book. I tell people not to read it. 

zande2016

So for this latest listeria veggie outbreak, it seems only one thing at Trader Joe’s is on the list, so salad mix I’ve never eaten. Phew. I’ve been having stomach upset every day this week and was getting worried for a second...

ckmb_1250

@flockofmoosen3 I think many times the contamination comes from human or machinery handling/chopping/packaging etc, which is why we more often see recalls on bagged veggies which have been heavily handled by people or machinery. I've been trying to buy the whole, unpackaged stuff lately, but I think for romaine specifically they are still unsure of the source so its suggested to avoid whole and bagged. I haven't heard any issues with fruit lately but I'm totally guilty of buying the pre-cut assorted 4x more expensive fruit rather than whole fruit 

babygagnon2018

runsomewhere i always do my greek salads with iceberg anyways! so good.

sm05-2

Looks like there's been a recall on eggs due to a salmonella outbreak: https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending-now/salmonella-outbreak-traced-to-eggs-sickens-dozens-across-several-states/747689403

morethanamama

I'm so annoyed at restaurants still serving romaine! Had Vietnamese food yesterday and had them remake a vermicelli bowl without romaine.

And now eggs...food safety in this country sucks!

runsomewhere

@kissableviv that's what confuses me so much! Every restaurant is still serving these things. Have they made sure it's safe? I wouldn't say the food safety sucks as I haven't heard any reports of illness from eggs or romaine here, I just wish they'd address it and know for sure that their stuff is not part of the recall (I hope they do).

morethanamama

It's just that in Italy I hardly hear of recalls as often as here. I know that the us is considerably larger but I can't help but comparing. Also the FDA has seen funding cut several times which I think is concerning. Sorry for the vent!

runsomewhere

@kissableviv no, I totally get where you're coming from. I think it's a symptom of such mass quantities of cheap food and factory farming.

SmashJam

@runsomewhere definitely the problem! I try to buy as local as I can whenever I can and I can't help but be really skeptical about mass produced food. 

runsomewhere

@SmashJam yup, same here.

zande2016

@runsomewhere @kissableviv re restaurants....you just have to grill them about where it comes from, and decide if you trust them that they're telling the truth. My husband used to run a salad restaurant, when they had some sort of lettuce recall while he was working there, I remember him having to pull some affected lettuce from the inventory because it came from the place the recall was for. But now he runs catering for a different type of restaurant and they use romaine in some of their stuff, but there's is from California and the recall is for Arizona. So they still sell it, and sometimes people ask, and he just tells them where it's from and that it's not part of the recall. Some places I'd trust to tell me accurate info, others not so much. Like basically every delivery lunch spot by my office, I will avoid romaine and eggs completely without bothering to ask. 

zombiehoohaa

California has been added to the list for  salmonella infection from tainted precut watermelon