January 2018 Moms

Update - Possible TW

Ladies, not sure this is the right place to put my update, but wanted all of you to get my news - started putting it in Randoms but felt like that would hijack the thread. Copying and pasting mostly from a friends and family email, so sorry if info is too much/not enough in some places. Heading in at 3pm today for our next appt.

**Possible TW**

I went in for my 28-week appt on Monday and I was growing too fast – too much amniotic fluid, too much weight gain, etc. I had a feeling I was measuring more like a month later, and I was right. Lesson: Moms know - when in doubt, get scanned, advocate for yourself. So, I got a growth US and we found some fluid inside the baby near its chest and bowels, in addition to extra fluid in my uterus (so baby has more room to flip and move, and I have extreme discomfort because it’s like I’m 36 weeks pregnant but my uterus is still catching up). It means the baby isn't processing amniotic fluid, possibly because it's unable to swallow or something else is going on. Fluid should not be in these locations in the baby, so I was admitted to the hospital and sent to the maternal risk team for monitoring and investigation. We didn’t know much leaving the hospital Monday night except that the baby’s organs (the ones we could see) were all growing as they should in size/structure, and the heart is operating as we expected at that point (from what we could see). The implications of the fluid could result in many very, very poor prognoses. It’s called hydrops.

Skipping ahead, Tues morning I had an US with the MFM team and we found a suspicious mass in the chest cavity that is pushing the heart’s location (mediastinal shift), and we couldn’t see well what impact it had on the lungs. We also had a fetal echo (heart detail) that revealed the heart had the structure we were aiming for, and it seemed to be functioning well from what we could see. Together, these results pointed towards a diaphragmatic hernia (which would be an awful scenario with threatened survival). It looked like it would be severe because we thought the mass may be the liver protruding into the chest (i.e., close to a worse case scenario for this type of disease, called "liver up") and because of that fluid. So, the next step was a fetal MRI to get a better peek at the mass. 

We had the MRI and all sorts of other tests and got a call while I was getting steroid shots (to promote baby lung growth) that the care team was ready to go over my MRI (at 6pm). We were ushered into the fetal institute where we now have a “nesting room” and full care team. It was very scary but we’re confident we have great care at Northwestern. 

The care team (MFM, neonatologist, fetal surgeon, social worker) reviewed the MRI with us and we found out some interesting news that was slightly “better” than the previous (despite still being plain old awful). We were told the baby has a bronchopulmonary sequestration (BPS) with non-immune hydrops. This means there is abnormal tissue in the chest cavity that can lead to a heart failure (because the mass uses blood from the heart). They don’t know the cause for this and it’s very rare, but ultimately, it has a slightly better prognosis for the baby than the other diseases we were looking at because it can possibly be treated with a Fetal thoracoamniotic shunt (but realistically, there is a very high mortality rate for this illness because of the hydrops – it’s just that there’s a better “chance” to treat than the previous one). The shunt allows the fluid in the baby’s chest to exit into the uterus (out of the baby’s body) so the shunt helps drain that fluid and the lungs have room to grow, and the heart can hopefully take a better position. Then, LO would have surgery at 6-9 months old - and removing the mass after birth should not be a huge scare, but we want the baby’s lungs to develop as much as possible in utero because it’s the complications with preterm birth PLUS the disease that cause the risks.  

So, the next step was to schedule the surgery. They would insert a needle into my uterus and place the shunt into the baby’s upper left side of chest to relieve the pressure. There are risks that the shunt won’t be inserted, risks of infant bleeding, or a possibility that the shunt wouldn’t drain the fluid. The largest risk would be early delivery, so there was a small chance we could have a preemie this week – a preemie that wouldn’t have lungs to support it. Babies delivered with hydrops at this gestational age are not typical preemies and outcomes would not be good for LO's independent living. The most likely scenario would be that the shunt is inserted appropriately, relieves the fluid pressure, and the lungs can catch up on some growth, but it is a high-risk situation. Baby may dislocate the shunt or it could become blocked, but even temporary relief of a week or two could have some gains worth the attempt. It could result in another surgery –  after the surgery, it’s constantly being monitored in relation to the baby’s preemie status. If the baby doesn’t get the shunt, the tumor starts to influence cardiac performance because it takes away blood from the heart and rest of body at some point – which would result in heart failure. So treatment is the clear choice.

Fast forward to Thursday afternoon. We received word that the fetal surgery could proceed at 5pm. This would be the first surgery of its kind at Northwestern, but the surgeon had done them a few times. To put this in perspective, there are about 20 centers around the world that can manage this procedure, and they each have done up to about 30 procedures over 10-15 years. Because this disease is about 1 in 25,000 pregnancies (and then, we have a “special” type as well, so it’s even more rare), there isn’t a typical trajectory at this point. We checked in for surgery at 2pm and began monitoring, IVs, testing, etc. Each doctor came in our room to discuss decision-making with us, which was extremely hard. There was a real possibility that we could experience complications and have to make decisions no parent should ever have to consider.

At about 5pm, Chris and I parted ways and I headed into the OR. There were about 25 bystanders because the team was so academically interested in the scenario - everyone in L&D and MFM knows about this. I received an epidural (my nurses and anesthesiologists were angels) and lay on the table in the position of a cross, arms out and legs bent. It was one of the scariest moments of my life (especially because I'm trying to be strong but have slept maybe 7 hours over three nights) but I tried to remind myself that the most likely outcome would be positive. I have to say, watching the entire care team get ready for the procedure was incredible. They all had their roles and the energy was like an orchestra (although I certainly never need to see this again in my lifetime). After I was numbed up, I began listening to the doctors’ conversations as they tried to find a place to cut (it’s very hard with baby moving constantly, and the location of the shunt is extremely important for success). They were seeing some inconsistencies between Tuesday’s images and Thursday’s situation – almost no fluid around the baby’s bowels and maybe a slight decrease in fluid around the baby’s chest. They had an open discussion about what to do and ultimately decided (after putting a catheter in, of course) that it was not the right time to place the shunt because it appeared the baby may be making some progress on its own. This was the last likely scenario of the whole day (hence, it happening after the epi) – it would have been much more likely that I delivered than the surgery being postponed. However, without the fluid down by the bowels (called ascites), the diagnosis technically changes to a BPS without hydrops. This is a very good milestone, although of course, we can’t be sure what is happening since only two days passed between scans. So it isn’t time to celebrate, but it IS good news and definitely better than seeing the problem escalate. The entire team was blindsided (they’ve literally NEVER seen or heard this happen) and we are trying to be optimistic, although the baby does still have a tumor and fluid around his/her lungs. We are hopeful that the lack of fluid in the bowels means that our LO was able to start processing some fluid, and every little bit of fluid that is gone allows more room for those lungs to grow. It could be that the steroid shots helped the baby's lungs grow a bit. Monday is 29 weeks, and every day we get for baby’s brain, lungs, and heart to keep developing is good, so the delay of the surgery is a good herring. LO is a fighter already.

Our next steps are to go in on Monday and receive another US and review with the MFM team and surgeon. We'll hopefully see if there was any progress made, so please pray that LO has the strength to start processing some more of this fluid on his/her own. It would also be a win for mom, because I’m extremely uncomfortable and feeling as if our delivery date is tomorrow and not in early January (but will take discomfort any day of the week over the alternatives). There is a small possibility of delivery any day right now as well (among other complications), so please pray for my blood pressure and pulse to remain normal. Right now my pulse is 106 and I feel like my heart is falling out of my chest.

I’ll share another update once we have more info. Please pray for our family and LO if you can. And if you feel ANYTHING weird going on, get care for yourself. My intuition and my doctor's willingness to listen are the reasons LO has a fighting chance right now.

TW. Oh, and the irony? Our LO from our previous pregnancy would have been due this last week. I believe that our first LO has ordered some kind of miracle for his/her little sibling and that's why we saw some progress, but my PGAL brain is absolutely OOC right now.

Much love and hope everyone is doing okay...haven't been keeping up at all.

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  • @libbberty I am praying for you and your LO and your husband and your care team.  Lots of love to you.

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  • I am so sorry you’re going through this right now! It’s amazing to me How I could see you reference so many positives through what you wrote. You seem to have such a great mindset about the whole situation and you are so strong! I’ll be praying for the best possible outcome! 
  • I'm so sorry you're in this situation. I hope baby continues to progress and develop. Take care of yourself. Your family is in my thoughts. 
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  • I am so glad that you posted this, I'm not sure if you had posted about any of this and I missed it. But I'm am so thankful that there is some positivity coming through in this difficult to imagine time. I'm praying hard for you guys and this new LO. 

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  • Sending thoughts and prayers! I hope LO keeps being the little fighter it seems like he/she already is!
  • @libbberty Wow. I am sending you and this strong LO all of the love in the world HUGS! 
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  • @libbberty I am praying for you and your LO and hubby, I’m so sorry you are going through this!

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  • So much positive energy being sent your way! Glad things seem to have progressed well and hoping they continue down that path!
  • Strength and prayers to both you and your LO!! The waiting game is the worst but it sounds like you have a ton of support surrounding you, and the LO is definately a fighter like their momma and dad!!
  • Hugs and puppy kisses for you and baby from us in Maine. I'm thinking of you and all you're going through, but also happy to hear the positives. <3
  • I am so sorry you are going through this. I am praying for you, your LO, your DH and the entire care team you have surrounding you. Sending lots of love. 
  • @libbberty I am so sorry you are going through this! Sending you all the hugs and positive vibes. Your LO sounds like a fighter, and I hope it continues to be! 
  • I'm so, so sorry you're having to go through this, but it's wonderful that there seems to be an improvement. I'll keep you and your LO in my thoughts and prayers. Please keep us updated!
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  • @libbberty I am sending all the hugs in the world to you, your husband and LO! I truly believe in signs and divine intervention and that seems right on track for what happened.  Please update us whenever you have the chance (no rush) and I will say all the prayers this week that LO continues to fight and break those milestones! XOXO!
  • You and your family are in my thoughts. Grow baby grow, and keep up the fight!
  • Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry you've been dealing with this! Fingers crossed for continuing improvements on the hydrops and best possible outcomes with the BPS.
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  • Thinking of you and your family and sending positive vibes your way. I can't imagine how you are feeling but please know that you and LO are in our thoughts. <3

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  • Thoughts prayers and positivity for you and your family @libbberty! Thank you for sharing your journey. Really hoping for the best outcome.
  • @libbberty so many thoughts and prayers with you and baby <3
  • Oh wow, that is so much to go through! You and your LO are in my thoughts and prayers. 
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  • So many hugs, @libbberty so grateful for your care team yet so incredibly sorry you are going through this! You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers!!! We are all with you in spirit. Hope your appt today went well/goes well. You are stronger than you think and already such an amazing momma to that little one. Hugs!!
  • All the love and hugs to you mama! You are an amazing fighter just like your LO. So glad you followed your gut!! I'm so sorry you've had to endure this but I hope this cont
  • .... continued path of improvement continues and baby has plenty more time to develop and get stronger before you meet. <3
  • I am so sorry you and your husband are going through all of this right now :( you and your baby are in my thoughts . Wishing for the best outcome 
  • Prayers for you and your LO. ❤❤
  • That's so scary, and I'm glad it has a chance at looking up. Take care of yourself; I hope things continue to improve. 
  • Such a scary situation. So glad you trusted your instincts and you have an amazing care team! Thoughts and prayers being sent your way!!! Hang in there mama 
  • Sending all the good vibes to you and LO! Keep us updated as you get more information. 
  • Thanks for sharing! Our family will be praying for you and your LO! <3<3<3
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    edited October 2017
    I have been thinking about you all day. Sending you and your family tons of love. 
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  • @libbberty so sorry to hear this!  I will be praying for the best possible outcome for your and your little one!  Creepy internet hugs too.  <3
  • Oh goodness, I'm so sorry you all had a tough week last week but I'm glad that you are getting good care! I'm sure this whole process has been very difficult. Hang in there and stay strong for your baby! Prayers and best wishes for you all! I have a feeling this will be one of those situations that turns out to be miraculously best case. 
  • I am so sorry you’re going through this! Thoughts and positive vibes to you three ♥️♥️♥️
  • Oh my gosh! How scary but so wonderful that the LO is doing better. Please keep us posted. Sending you lots of love and support and prayers. 
  • Oh my goodness, what a roller coaster you have been riding. I will send many prayers up for your sweet one!

     
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    edited October 2017
    OMG, how scary and what an awful situation to deal with! So happy to hear that your LO seems to be improving a bit. Keep growing, baby! All my positive thoughts are being sent your way, @libbberty. Please keep us updated as you're able. You are incredibly strong... It's no surprise that your LO is a fighter, too. <3
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  • You are SO strong! Praying for you and your family!
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  • @libbberty, you and your sweet LO are in my thoughts and prayers. Your strength and positivity through this ordeal is so impressive and inspiring. Hugs to you and your family.  
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