Both my PCP and OB have recommended the flu shot. I'm scheduled to get one at 8 weeks at my PCP's office, but now I'm curious about what @RachelH77 said. I might check with my OB to see what she thinks.
I got my flu shot a day before my BFP. They ask you if you’re pregnant or think you might be pregnant and if you say yes then they give you a different version of the flu shot.
I got my flu shot a day before my BFP. They ask you if you’re pregnant or think you might be pregnant and if you say yes then they give you a different version of the flu shot.
Samsies. I got mine the day after ovulation, and they made sure to let me know I got the preservative-free version.
I read the recent scientific report that saw a link between the recent flu shots and MCs. Some of you may have seen this in recent news articles. I just want to comment that there is likely some selection bias in this study, as people who are more likely to be proactive about getting their flu shot may also be more likely to go to their doctor if they are concerned about their health in early pregnancy. This may be playing into doctors' decisions to wait until second tri when MC risk is lower.
Me: 30 | DH: 31 Met: August 2006 Married: July 2012 TTC #1 since June 2016
@icecubeinthedesert funny you mention that article. My first pregnancy I got my flu shot around 6 weeks, found out at 11 weeks it was a missed miscarriage and the baby stopped growing around 6 weeks. Was it the flu shot? Who knows. It makes me paranoid enough to not get a flu shot when I’m pregnant though.
@icecubeinthedesert I saw an article about that too. The one I read had OB’s chiming in saying how they were hoping that it didn’t spread fear of the flu shot amongst pregnant women because as you said, it was biased, etc. They’re still stressing that the benefits far outweigh the risks for pregnant women and their unborn children.
Fyi, new research is showing that getting the flu shot in the 1st tri can increase your risk of miscarriage. That said, the cdc is still advising to get it.
Has our resident researcher @icecubeinthedesert weighed in on this study? Personally none of the OBs that I work with have said anything about it. I've only seen anything about it on my local news station.
@sabby2 and @ras713, see my earlier comment above for my comments on this study (already on it!). I lean towards flawed study design, but might be prudent to wait until second tri just in case. Luckily I got mine before getting KTFU.
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I'm probably in the minority here, but the only vaccine I have regularly kept updated is the dtap. I had the flu shot once before kids and idk what happened but 48 hours later I had what could only be described as flu like symptoms but amplified. It was horrid. I was sick for roughly 4 or 5 weeks with varying degrees of symptoms. I had a fever of 105 at one point toward the beginning and remember feeling completely out of my mind at that point. I am not asking anyone to agree with me... But for me the benefits don't out way the risk of whatever kind of reaction I had to that. On top of that, where I live I have not seen or heard of anyone with the flu since we moved here.
@Dashaina just for peace of mind, you can't get actual influenza from a flu vaccine. The virus is dead so it can't make you ill. Some people to get lesser symptoms that are flu like and low grade Temps but I would guess your experience was 'bad timing' and you caught something else around the time you got your shot.
Not a doctor, obviously but this is what I know to be true about vaccines.
@Dashaina just for peace of mind, you can't get actual influenza from a flu vaccine. The virus is dead so it can't make you ill. Some people to get lesser symptoms that are flu like and low grade Temps but I would guess your experience was 'bad timing' and you caught something else around the time you got your shot.
Not a doctor, obviously but this is what I know to be true about vaccines.
Truth. The flu vaccine can't give you the flu. It's a dead virus. You make antibodies, but you don't get the flu from the vaccine.
You can, however, get another strain of the flu not included in the vaccination.
@izza2 and my luck that's probably what happened and I was definitely not saying the shot gave me the flu FTR. Just saying that obviously I had something, it didn't prevent it and for me.. I don't get them or want to for reasons above mentioned.
The doc at my visit today ordered it for me, I even paid for it at the pharmacy but I've decided against taking it for now, even though I usually do take it myself annually. Just doesn't feel right while everything is so early and while I completely understand the importance/usefullness of vaccines, there is just too much of an unknown area when it comes to flu vaccine and pregancy. I understand both sides of the issue, but going to follow my intuition for now.
This is just my opinion for now, I literally work in healthcare, former bio/pre-med background so trust me I get the point of vaccines, but going with my gut for now...
So what about the risk of high fevers and the potential birth defects that can cause? Or risk of dehydration and the risks that can pose in pregnancy? Not judging your opinion to wait/not get it, I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts on the risks that getting actual influenza poses to pregnancies with your background in healthcare.
I'm aware of the research on both ends of the spectrum ..but this is the same government that systematiclly exposed people to syphilis for 40 years for research/science sake, just saying (the Tuskegee Experiment). I digress though, I will save my theories for another forum, not the Bump lol. Like I said, I get the point of vaccines and usually allow myself to injected with all these chemicals every year. It comes down to preference though and thankfully people have the right to choose and shouldn't be shamed for their decision
Hi Sabby2! I am honestly often hesitant to enter into discussions of this sort on public forums. Some people (not saying you btw dear, just in general) take things far too seriously ,become defensive and before long just downright nasty and I'd rather not be the target of any negative energy like that, especially during this time. Because of this field I am in, I also try to limit discussion of big pharma, the government and the medical industrial complex as almost everything done online is discoverable. I also do not want to scare anyone that isn't aware of the science and theories on this subject. Instead I would advise anyone that is interested to talk to your doctor, maybe read some publications from peer reviewed journals etc, not just random google searches. I am personally going to do some more research on the formulation of the vaccine that was prescribed for me (see attached pic). I am in Dubai at the moment though, so this might be a little different than what is available in the states.
I get that and I'm not really one to get into a huge debate about vaccines on a forum because I don't think it facilitates rational conversation on the subject. I also agree it's best to speak with your doctor but the risks to pregnancy from influenza are a pretty big deal too in my opinion (not a doctor here but still pretty scary stuff).
I was more interested in your thoughts on that than on researching the vaccine (though I agree with you about advocating for yourself by researching what providers recommend to make an informed decision about your care).
@sabby2 I don't believe it's my responsibility to answer your questions on a topic that is extremely divisive and personal. Involvement in this forum is voluntary, no? My goal is not to convince anyone to not take any vaccine they think they should, just to share my own personal decision. I've said what I feel like sharing regarding this subject, I wish everyone good health in their journey!
I had an appointment with the nurse today. She asked if she could give me the flu shot (I'm 7w4d) and I told her I had concerns with first trimester shots. She said the office does not give the nasal because the shot is safer for pregnancies. I have most of the same thoughts as @fabbayt so I told her I wanted to do a little more research before I get the shot so early. I completely support Moms and their own personal autonomy. I just need a few more weeks to keep looking things over. She said that was fine as it was still early and I will let them know and go back.
@fabbayt Just curious what you do in the healthcare field? Seems like we've got a few of healthcare/researcher mommas on this board which will be a great resource for all of us!
Well, I'm not afraid to say I work in health care, have been a CNA for almost a decade, and am 7 months from being a graduate nurse... I don't get why sharing your occupation or your personal experience/thoughts is grounds for acting stuck up, but what do I know? *shrug* It's a conversation, and generally people like to continue conversations to get to know people, but I digress.
I got the flu shot prior to being pregnant, so this is irrelevant in terms of this pregnancy, however, if I hadn't gotten it, I would take the time to do my own research. Whether that's by finding reputable resources from Google - because yes, if you know what to look for, you can get reputable, unbiased resources - or searching research articles. I get that there are people who feel the government is out to kill us or something (because the panels of people who have to approve studies and vaccinations are all evil? I'll never understand that argument), but take the time to research it yourself.
I've had the flu, I've also had some negative side-effects from the flu shot. I've never gotten the flu the years that I've had the flu shot. That's my personal experience with the flu/flu shot. I haven't looked in to research, although I can take the time after getting DSS on the bus to do so and share what I find, whether that turns out to be good or bad. I don't mind doing so, if it helps give some people more peace of mind one way or another. I realize not everyone has accessed to peer-reviewed studies (and after seeing a debate in another group about studies, I realize some people think they are also out to kill us?), but I do, and wouldn't mind doing that grunt work if it would help others.
Personal opinions are great and all, but I wouldn't skip or get a vaccine just because 5 other people on an online forum skipped or got the vaccine.
I searched one database for "pregnancy" and "influenza immunization" between the years of 2010 and present.
-NewsScientist, Volume 205, Issue 2745, January 2010, Page 15 (https://doi.org/10.1016/S0262-4079(10)60219-9): take away is that the brains of monkeys whose mothers had flu while pregnant resemble those of people with schizophrenia.
-Vaccine, V 35, I 43, Oct. 2017 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.vaccine.2017.08.037): evidence that maternal influenza immunization reduces risk of adverse birth outcomes was conflicting.
-The Lancet, V 17, I 9, Sept. 2017 (https://doi.org/10.1016/S1473-3099(17)30252-9): immunization reduced rates of low birth weight by 15%; miscarriage occurred in 3 (0.2%) people in the placebo group versus 5 (0.3%) people in the vaccine group; stillbirth occurred in 31 (1.7%) people in placebo versus 33 (1.8%) in vaccine group; a congenital defect occurred in 18 (1.0%) in placebo versus 20 (1.1%) of vaccine group.
-Vaccine, V 35, I 10, March 2017 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.vaccine.2017.01.075): Preterm birth was +2% in vaccinated group, average birth weight was -14 grams (0.03 lbs) in vaccinated group, very low birth weight was +0.02% in unvaccinated group, extremely lowbirth weight was +0.01% in vaccinated group; all other results were the same/similar (gestation at birth [38.7 vs 38.8 weeks], very preterm infants, extremely preterm infants, normal weight, low birth weight, large for gestational age.
-Vaccine, V 32, I 26, May 2014 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.vaccine.2014.04.021): This study had results laid out differently: there were 31 cases of gestational hypertension, and 35% of those cases were vaccinated women (versus 610 women without hypertension, and 43% of those women being vaccinated); pre/eclampsia was 25 cases and 48% of them were vaccinated women (versus 616 non-occurrences, and 43% of that group being vaccinated); Gestational diabetes had 33 cases and 27% of the group was vaccinated (versus 44% of the non-GD group being vaccinated); Chorioamnionitis had 15 cases and 60% of them being vaccinated women (versus 43% of those without Chorioamnionitis being vaccinated women); In another study during that same year (2010-2011), the percentage of vaccinated women having/not having the aforementioned complications were similar.
-AJOG, V 207, I 3, Sept. 2012 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ajog.2012.07.002): Category B influenza vaccinations (meaning animal reproduction studies have not demonstrated a risk to the fetus but there are no adequate/well-controlled studies in pregnant women; or animal production studies have shown an adverse effect, but adequate and well-controlled studies in pregnant women have not demonstrated a risk to fetus) include: Agriflu, FluLaval, Fluarix; Category C immunizations (meaning animal studies have shown an adverse effect to fetus, no adequate human studies, but potential benefits may warrant use during pregnancy; or no animal studies and no adequate well-controlled human studies) include Afluria, Fluvirin, Fluzone, FluMist, Influenza Virus Vaccine H5N1, Influenza A H1N1 2009 Monovalent Vaccine.
ETA: Just wanted to point out: for most of these studies, the flu shot was given after 15+ weeks of gestation. I didn't see a good study that talked about adverse effects to a pregnancy from getting the flu shot in the first trimester. Some of the studies didn't mention the gestational age during vaccination, or if they did I missed it because I have to get ready for the day.
FWIW, I got a faint positive on 10/3, had a beta drawn on 10/4 and it was 52 and I also received my flu shot on this day. On 10/9 I had another beta drawn and it went up to 402...you can't worry about every single thing while you are pregnant or you will go crazy. You have to do the best you can and make the best decision you can at the time. This is now my second pregnancy and I also got the flu shot with DS and he is almost 3 and is perfect. Taking care of the baby also means taking care of yourself. I am also a nurse, so this is my perspective...not saying it's right or wrong, it was just my choice based on my knowledge.
I wait until 2nd trimester to get mine. My mom gets her flu shot every year because she works in a hospital and it is mandatory and every single time she gets extremely sick for about a week. Obviously the benefits outweigh the risks for most, but that does not mean it is best for everyone.
I never get the flu shot. Ever. Got my first one in life last year while in 3rd trimester so DD could get the antibodies (she is 11 mos).
I actually went for my annual exam at the end of September this year and was offered the shot but I turned it down. Now I know I was 2 weeks "pregnant"/conceiving around that time and I'm glad I didn't. I don't mind getting something like that in the second or third trimester but would be unsettled if I'd gotten it then found out I was pregnant.
I'm all for vaccines but I am a strong believer in researching your options. My kid is vaccinated and I believe in vaccines. But I also do a lot of work with the government - "we the people" don't mean a thing to the old guys that determine our fate. They all answer to where the money is coming from. So our medicinal recommendations, gun laws and every other controversial thing you can think of aren't all blindly created in our best interests, they are very much influenced by the entities writing the biggest checks.
Again, my DD is vaccinated. And I'm actually annoyed by conspiracy theorists, so I hope this doesn't come across as though I'm anti vax or a theorist. My career in PR and government relations has just exposed me to the ways of the world (the Olivia Pope avatar is intentional) and it's made me not take everything at face value.
Me: 31; DH: 31 NTNP: May 2015 TTC #1: late August 2015 PCOS Dx: January 2016, starting Femara Feb 2016 BFP: 2/29/16 - Happy Leap Day!
@ash9614 and others (I really don't mean this to be a personal attack, just a bit lazy to go back and tag others TBH), as someone who works in research and started out in an influenza lab before getting into cancer research, I would find it hard to believe that the flu shot recommendations are heavily motivated by politics or special interest lobbies. The make up of the vaccine each year is based on evidence from the last year's strains and the forecasted strains for the upcoming season. An while there may be some incentive to get as many people vaccinated as possible (hello herd immunity), that's not primarily a political, malicious decision. Its better for susceptible populations like immunocompromized individuals, the elderly, and infants if the majority of the population is vaccinated. After studying the most deadly strains of influenza that killed thousands of people in 1918 and other pandemics, I'd rather not get that (or even a mild version) while pregnant.
I can understand putting it off until 2nd tri (I am PGAL after all and can't say with complete certainty that there isn't truth to the recent study, just feel it's more likely to be an artifact). But I urge everyone to get the flu shot when they feel comfortable. It's incredibly important.
**I have no conflicts of interest to disclose, and I am not a paid spokesperson** (completely tongue-in-cheek)
Me: 30 | DH: 31 Met: August 2006 Married: July 2012 TTC #1 since June 2016
I look at it this way: my OB recommends I get the flu shot. I trust my OB. IMO of you don’t trust that your OB has your best interests in mind, perhaps it’s time to rethink your OB choice (then again, I would rethink any OB that didn’t recommend the flu shot).
I do not claim to be an expert on anything medical as I'm a marketer at heart. I also believe in herd immunity and passing antibodies onto my unborn child, hence we vaccinate and I'll get the flu shot in 2nd trimester.
I also work with the knowledge that drug companies grease the hands of elected officials. And the CDC, which determines the parameters for all things health related in the U.S. - the head is the Director of Health and Human Services, a position appointed by each president. The most recent one, Tom Price, was recently fired by Trump. Prior to that position, he was a U.S. Rep out of GA, who took money that then influenced his legislative agenda. So even the most recent leader of our most health-focused organization is "owned" by politics and special interests.
Doesn't mean what they say is wrong, but it does mean it's not a bad idea to do your own research.
Me: 31; DH: 31 NTNP: May 2015 TTC #1: late August 2015 PCOS Dx: January 2016, starting Femara Feb 2016 BFP: 2/29/16 - Happy Leap Day!
@icecubeinthedesert funny you mention that article. My first pregnancy I got my flu shot around 6 weeks, found out at 11 weeks it was a missed miscarriage and the baby stopped growing around 6 weeks. Was it the flu shot? Who knows. It makes me paranoid enough to not get a flu shot when I’m pregnant though.
I had dental work w/ novicane done at 6 weeks the baby before last and had a MMC at 6 weeks so I had the same thought. I can’t do anything now but I’m avoiding all dental work while pregnancy if it all possible. Curious thoughts, though. I’m sorry about what happened to you as well.
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Your OB will have you get the flu shot. I would ask them when the best time to do it is. That's what my plan is.
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I read the recent scientific report that saw a link between the recent flu shots and MCs. Some of you may have seen this in recent news articles. I just want to comment that there is likely some selection bias in this study, as people who are more likely to be proactive about getting their flu shot may also be more likely to go to their doctor if they are concerned about their health in early pregnancy. This may be playing into doctors' decisions to wait until second tri when MC risk is lower.
Me: 30 | DH: 31
Met: August 2006
Married: July 2012
TTC #1 since June 2016
***TW***
BFP: 7/12/16 | MC: 9/12/16
BFP: 1/18/17 | MMC: 2/13/17
BFP: 10/7/17 | EDD: 6/21/17
MTHFR: homozygous A1298C
Me: 30 | DH: 31
Met: August 2006
Married: July 2012
TTC #1 since June 2016
***TW***
BFP: 7/12/16 | MC: 9/12/16
BFP: 1/18/17 | MMC: 2/13/17
BFP: 10/7/17 | EDD: 6/21/17
MTHFR: homozygous A1298C
Not a doctor, obviously but this is what I know to be true about vaccines.
The flu vaccine can't give you the flu. It's a dead virus. You make antibodies, but you don't get the flu from the vaccine.
You can, however, get another strain of the flu not included in the vaccination.
Me: 30 | DH: 34 | DSS: 14 | DS: 4
PG #2, EDD 10/12/2023
I was more interested in your thoughts on that than on researching the vaccine (though I agree with you about advocating for yourself by researching what providers recommend to make an informed decision about your care).
I got the flu shot prior to being pregnant, so this is irrelevant in terms of this pregnancy, however, if I hadn't gotten it, I would take the time to do my own research.
Whether that's by finding reputable resources from Google - because yes, if you know what to look for, you can get reputable, unbiased resources - or searching research articles. I get that there are people who feel the government is out to kill us or something (because the panels of people who have to approve studies and vaccinations are all evil? I'll never understand that argument), but take the time to research it yourself.
I've had the flu, I've also had some negative side-effects from the flu shot. I've never gotten the flu the years that I've had the flu shot. That's my personal experience with the flu/flu shot. I haven't looked in to research, although I can take the time after getting DSS on the bus to do so and share what I find, whether that turns out to be good or bad. I don't mind doing so, if it helps give some people more peace of mind one way or another.
I realize not everyone has accessed to peer-reviewed studies (and after seeing a debate in another group about studies, I realize some people think they are also out to kill us?), but I do, and wouldn't mind doing that grunt work if it would help others.
Personal opinions are great and all, but I wouldn't skip or get a vaccine just because 5 other people on an online forum skipped or got the vaccine.
Me: 30 | DH: 34 | DSS: 14 | DS: 4
PG #2, EDD 10/12/2023
-NewsScientist, Volume 205, Issue 2745, January 2010, Page 15 (https://doi.org/10.1016/S0262-4079(10)60219-9): take away is that the brains of monkeys whose mothers had flu while pregnant resemble those of people with schizophrenia.
-Vaccine, V 35, I 43, Oct. 2017 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.vaccine.2017.08.037): evidence that maternal influenza immunization reduces risk of adverse birth outcomes was conflicting.
-The Lancet, V 17, I 9, Sept. 2017 (https://doi.org/10.1016/S1473-3099(17)30252-9): immunization reduced rates of low birth weight by 15%; miscarriage occurred in 3 (0.2%) people in the placebo group versus 5 (0.3%) people in the vaccine group; stillbirth occurred in 31 (1.7%) people in placebo versus 33 (1.8%) in vaccine group; a congenital defect occurred in 18 (1.0%) in placebo versus 20 (1.1%) of vaccine group.
-Vaccine, V 35, I 10, March 2017 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.vaccine.2017.01.075): Preterm birth was +2% in vaccinated group, average birth weight was -14 grams (0.03 lbs) in vaccinated group, very low birth weight was +0.02% in unvaccinated group, extremely lowbirth weight was +0.01% in vaccinated group; all other results were the same/similar (gestation at birth [38.7 vs 38.8 weeks], very preterm infants, extremely preterm infants, normal weight, low birth weight, large for gestational age.
-Vaccine, V 32, I 26, May 2014 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.vaccine.2014.04.021): This study had results laid out differently: there were 31 cases of gestational hypertension, and 35% of those cases were vaccinated women (versus 610 women without hypertension, and 43% of those women being vaccinated); pre/eclampsia was 25 cases and 48% of them were vaccinated women (versus 616 non-occurrences, and 43% of that group being vaccinated); Gestational diabetes had 33 cases and 27% of the group was vaccinated (versus 44% of the non-GD group being vaccinated); Chorioamnionitis had 15 cases and 60% of them being vaccinated women (versus 43% of those without Chorioamnionitis being vaccinated women); In another study during that same year (2010-2011), the percentage of vaccinated women having/not having the aforementioned complications were similar.
-AJOG, V 207, I 3, Sept. 2012 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ajog.2012.07.002): Category B influenza vaccinations (meaning animal reproduction studies have not demonstrated a risk to the fetus but there are no adequate/well-controlled studies in pregnant women; or animal production studies have shown an adverse effect, but adequate and well-controlled studies in pregnant women have not demonstrated a risk to fetus) include: Agriflu, FluLaval, Fluarix; Category C immunizations (meaning animal studies have shown an adverse effect to fetus, no adequate human studies, but potential benefits may warrant use during pregnancy; or no animal studies and no adequate well-controlled human studies) include Afluria, Fluvirin, Fluzone, FluMist, Influenza Virus Vaccine H5N1, Influenza A H1N1 2009 Monovalent Vaccine.
ETA: Just wanted to point out: for most of these studies, the flu shot was given after 15+ weeks of gestation. I didn't see a good study that talked about adverse effects to a pregnancy from getting the flu shot in the first trimester. Some of the studies didn't mention the gestational age during vaccination, or if they did I missed it because I have to get ready for the day.
Me: 30 | DH: 34 | DSS: 14 | DS: 4
PG #2, EDD 10/12/2023
I actually went for my annual exam at the end of September this year and was offered the shot but I turned it down. Now I know I was 2 weeks "pregnant"/conceiving around that time and I'm glad I didn't. I don't mind getting something like that in the second or third trimester but would be unsettled if I'd gotten it then found out I was pregnant.
I'm all for vaccines but I am a strong believer in researching your options. My kid is vaccinated and I believe in vaccines. But I also do a lot of work with the government - "we the people" don't mean a thing to the old guys that determine our fate. They all answer to where the money is coming from. So our medicinal recommendations, gun laws and every other controversial thing you can think of aren't all blindly created in our best interests, they are very much influenced by the entities writing the biggest checks.
Again, my DD is vaccinated. And I'm actually annoyed by conspiracy theorists, so I hope this doesn't come across as though I'm anti vax or a theorist. My career in PR and government relations has just exposed me to the ways of the world (the Olivia Pope avatar is intentional) and it's made me not take everything at face value.
NTNP: May 2015
TTC #1: late August 2015
PCOS Dx: January 2016, starting Femara Feb 2016
BFP: 2/29/16 - Happy Leap Day!
I can understand putting it off until 2nd tri (I am PGAL after all and can't say with complete certainty that there isn't truth to the recent study, just feel it's more likely to be an artifact). But I urge everyone to get the flu shot when they feel comfortable. It's incredibly important.
**I have no conflicts of interest to disclose, and I am not a paid spokesperson** (completely tongue-in-cheek)
Me: 30 | DH: 31
Met: August 2006
Married: July 2012
TTC #1 since June 2016
***TW***
BFP: 7/12/16 | MC: 9/12/16
BFP: 1/18/17 | MMC: 2/13/17
BFP: 10/7/17 | EDD: 6/21/17
MTHFR: homozygous A1298C
I also work with the knowledge that drug companies grease the hands of elected officials. And the CDC, which determines the parameters for all things health related in the U.S. - the head is the Director of Health and Human Services, a position appointed by each president. The most recent one, Tom Price, was recently fired by Trump. Prior to that position, he was a U.S. Rep out of GA, who took money that then influenced his legislative agenda. So even the most recent leader of our most health-focused organization is "owned" by politics and special interests.
Doesn't mean what they say is wrong, but it does mean it's not a bad idea to do your own research.
NTNP: May 2015
TTC #1: late August 2015
PCOS Dx: January 2016, starting Femara Feb 2016
BFP: 2/29/16 - Happy Leap Day!