@MJDsquared I'm with you on the seasons! Fall starts tomorrow in my mind and I don't care what anyone says.
I also agree with everyone that is against home births. I had an easy, uncomplicated pregnancy with my DS. Then he had a fetal maternal hemorrhage and almost died. I'm so thankful for the NICU doctors and nurses that saved his life. I honestly feel it's borderline negligent to chose to have your baby without the proper medical support in case something goes wrong.
I also agree that I am against home schooling. Unless you are a certified teacher why would you want to home school your kids? There's no way I could do as good of a job teaching my children as people who studied and went to school for years to do teach!
Agree with the homeschooling thing. I am a certified teacher and I still wouldn't homeschool my kids. I think there's so much more to school than just the actual education aspect. Social skills, time management, organization, etc are all important parts of a structured school day, too.
@peachy13 I'm a huge public school supporter. In our area a LOT of kids go to private schools and there really is no difference. There is one school around me that is for advanced learners and they charge $20k a year (for Kg -5th grade) - I mean that is just stupid if you ask me. I had two friends in high school that went there and we were in the same classes in high school and they were no better off than little old me from public school. So yeah, a hard no to spending money for no good reason.
@breezybee that's so sad, but that is how I envision so many home schooled kids. Like you just can't give them the socialization and education from your house that they get from going to a school. You just can't.
I am trying REALLY HARD not to take all of the extremely closed minded comments on home birth personally, but damn ladies!
I am an RN and fully understand the implications of potential complications of birth, however, I attempted home birth with DS (only failed because I sucked at pushing and got really exhausted, no complications) and am planning homebirth with this baby.
Just because I want to birth my baby in my own home does not mean I am negligent. It does not mean I am crunchy and will refuse all medical procedures and tests (DO ALL THE TESTS PLEASE) and it doesn't mean I intend on spending hours in a soup of my own bodily fluids (gross).
I have had all the possible screenings, scans, blood tests offered in pregnancy. I intend on having all newborn screenings and vaccinations and attending all recommended pediatric appointments after baby is born.
Midwives (at least in Canada) are extremely well trained and up to date on all of the current recommendations for birth and babies. They are capable of performing a full neonatal resuscitation at your home and bring equipment for such procedures. Basically the only thing they don't have on hand is blood for a transfusion, but if it were needed they have a plan in place to get you to a hospital ASAP and usually know that it potentially may be needed WAY before it happens. They minimize risk and ONLY go forward with home births when it is absolutely as low risk as possible.
Being a medical professional and seeing exactly how the medical system works (at least here) and understanding how and why doctors make the decisions they do and how you can easily be coerced into procedures and interventions you may not otherwise agree to, is exactly why I am choosing home birth again.
That being said, I am the epitome of low risk, and if there were even a minor risk factor, I would 100% opt for a hospital birth.
With DS, I labored at home for a LONG time, and I'm sure there was plenty of mess made, but in the 10-15 minutes it took for us to get our shit together and transfer to the hospital, the midwives had it ALL cleaned up. If weren't for the still-inflated birth pool, you would have never know that we had attempted to birth there. All we had to do was drain and deflate the pool, put some laundry in the dryer and fold it. The rest was taken care of without us even realizing it.
I don't think any of my comments on home birth were close minded. It's not for me. It's for you? Great. Some people find it risky and I think that's okay too.
@kvacmak I really hope you get the birth experience you want this time! I'm all for other people having home births if that's what they want, and it had not even occurred to me until it was brought up earlier in this thread that some of those people would then elect to skip or delay prenatal screening. I apologize if my shock/disbelief at that came off rude or impolite. For me, personally, I am choosing a hospital birth because I would not feel medically supported at home. (I actually don't know if I officially get to choose, now that I have been diagnosed with GD.) But that is based on my own fears and anxieties about giving birth or possible complications, which is partly why I referred to the extended medical facilities as a security net. It sounds like you'd be awesomely supported and know exactly what you'd like. When we all get closer, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
@rainbowdashh my apologies, I went back and reviewed and I actually agree with your perspective, but I tagged you since you were 'in' on the homebirth discussion. Sorry that it appears I included you in the generalization about comments.
@rainbowdashh its funny because it's my anxiety/fears that are driving my motivation TO homebirth! being that I work in a hospital and know how desperate they are for space ALL. THE. TIME. the people pleaser in me would feel anxious about not progressing fast enough and taking up a bed! To each they're own!
@kvacmak *shrug* I stand by my comments, but I'm sorry if you took them personally. I can only speak to my experiences. I also know that individual experiences aren't the same thing as saying "EVERYONE who does this is XYZ kind of way" and I specifically said that not all of the homebirth fams I interact with are like that. We've had friends choose homebirth and that worked for them, and I hope that yours goes smoothly this time.
Homeschooling is definitely something I would NEVER do. A close relative of mine homeschool her 4 kids. They are on point as far as their education goes, because she actually follows a schooling schedule and sits down with them to do it. But those kids are the most socially awkward children I've ever met. Also, their way of thinking is very closed minded and bias, because they receive all their education from their own mother. They don't get the experience of diversity.. Going to school (public and private) you learn things from so many different people, not just educational lessons but life lessons. Yeah, sure there are things you'd rather your kids not learn (like swearing or other bad habits), but isn't that part of growing up?
@kvacmak I don't think my comments were close minded, they were my personal unpopular opinion. I personally wouldn't want to give birth to a child in my own bed. I'm really not comfortable with the possibility of bodily fluids like blood, etc soaking into my $5,000 mattress lol. I know there are so many people who love the experience of being at home, and more power to em. But that's not my jam. Good for you for giving it another try this time.
I plan to homeschool at least through elementary. I am a certified teacher. I will put each child in 1-2 years of preschool but after that they will be with me. There are plenty of ways to socialize your children outside of the traditional school system. My 3 year old is very comfortable in socal situations. For me, the extra one-on-one instruction is more valuable than the extra stress it may cause.
I have seen both sides of homeschool-one where the kids couldn't even write in 6th grade and another mom that was a teacher and felt like her kids were bored to tears in public school and pulled them. The teacher mom has a daughter that has dreams of Harvard and is a normal, fun kid. They have made a HUGE effort to use homeschool resources, put them in activities, and make sure they are not just educated but well rounded. I think it reallllllly depends on both the parent and kid. I am not the parent cut out for it, that's for sure.
Private makes no sense here in California to me because we have good schools. In Kentucky, I do not know one person that attended public schools. Keep in mind I went there for college so everyone was attending college at first with me or had jobs with some college experience, but the public schools are literally SO terrible you don't have a choice. Also, they still do busing in public schools... It was the number one reason we decided to move when I got pregnant.
Also, I don't feel bad about media scrutiny at all for this nincomepoop of a President. When you habitually lie about everything ever, what do you expect?
I hate when I hear "well his wife and kids didn't sign up for that". Well actually, his wife kinda did. He wasn't a nobody before this. If they wanted to protect Barron, don't parade him around for judgement.
Re: UO Thursday 8/31
we don't even have true seasons here so what do I even know
I also agree with everyone that is against home births. I had an easy, uncomplicated pregnancy with my DS. Then he had a fetal maternal hemorrhage and almost died. I'm so thankful for the NICU doctors and nurses that saved his life. I honestly feel it's borderline negligent to chose to have your baby without the proper medical support in case something goes wrong.
I also agree that I am against home schooling. Unless you are a certified teacher why would you want to home school your kids? There's no way I could do as good of a job teaching my children as people who studied and went to school for years to do teach!
@breezybee that's so sad, but that is how I envision so many home schooled kids. Like you just can't give them the socialization and education from your house that they get from going to a school. You just can't.
I'm just catching up on this thread now.
I am trying REALLY HARD not to take all of the extremely closed minded comments on home birth personally, but damn ladies!
I am an RN and fully understand the implications of potential complications of birth, however, I attempted home birth with DS (only failed because I sucked at pushing and got really exhausted, no complications) and am planning homebirth with this baby.
Just because I want to birth my baby in my own home does not mean I am negligent. It does not mean I am crunchy and will refuse all medical procedures and tests (DO ALL THE TESTS PLEASE) and it doesn't mean I intend on spending hours in a soup of my own bodily fluids (gross).
I have had all the possible screenings, scans, blood tests offered in pregnancy. I intend on having all newborn screenings and vaccinations and attending all recommended pediatric appointments after baby is born.
Midwives (at least in Canada) are extremely well trained and up to date on all of the current recommendations for birth and babies. They are capable of performing a full neonatal resuscitation at your home and bring equipment for such procedures. Basically the only thing they don't have on hand is blood for a transfusion, but if it were needed they have a plan in place to get you to a hospital ASAP and usually know that it potentially may be needed WAY before it happens. They minimize risk and ONLY go forward with home births when it is absolutely as low risk as possible.
Being a medical professional and seeing exactly how the medical system works (at least here) and understanding how and why doctors make the decisions they do and how you can easily be coerced into procedures and interventions you may not otherwise agree to, is exactly why I am choosing home birth again.
That being said, I am the epitome of low risk, and if there were even a minor risk factor, I would 100% opt for a hospital birth.
With DS, I labored at home for a LONG time, and I'm sure there was plenty of mess made, but in the 10-15 minutes it took for us to get our shit together and transfer to the hospital, the midwives had it ALL cleaned up. If weren't for the still-inflated birth pool, you would have never know that we had attempted to birth there. All we had to do was drain and deflate the pool, put some laundry in the dryer and fold it. The rest was taken care of without us even realizing it.
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Yeah, sure there are things you'd rather your kids not learn (like swearing or other bad habits), but isn't that part of growing up?
Private makes no sense here in California to me because we have good schools. In Kentucky, I do not know one person that attended public schools. Keep in mind I went there for college so everyone was attending college at first with me or had jobs with some college experience, but the public schools are literally SO terrible you don't have a choice. Also, they still do busing in public schools... It was the number one reason we decided to move when I got pregnant.
I hate when I hear "well his wife and kids didn't sign up for that". Well actually, his wife kinda did. He wasn't a nobody before this. If they wanted to protect Barron, don't parade him around for judgement.