TWW Monday 7/10

SkilledSailor

Whoa. This thread blew up! Hi everyone! I'm on a short lunch break but I went through and love titted   

Month/cycle:  3/2

CD/DPO: 25/10

Timing: N/A

Typical LP Length: About to find out

Testing: Nope

R/R: Ah so busy this week! It's a rant and a rave. Yay business/work! Boo exhaustion. 

CS/Q:

GTKY: What celeb looks most like YH? So MH is Chinese. It was super hard to find any actors that look remotely like him. This guy is the closest I found. Mr. Liu Ye is apparently a pretty good actor in China.

@fishsticks-n-custard Ugh two mojitos sounds divine right now! Probably didn't sound as nice when you were up so early for work, though.  

@oneblessedmess Ooo love Target. I'm practically a professional Target shopper (staging/styling). Hope you have/had fun there! 

zamoraspin

@isntthatspeshul  @LazyCrane @cards10 @lurvleybunchococonuts I had a really hard time understanding the difference between CM types at first for myself. EWCM was easy enough and I was kind of amazed to learn what that stuff actually is. But I think the hardest thing to tell for me at first was whether it was creamy/non-lubricative versus Watery/lubricative. Because... they both feel you know, kind of wet and those are the types I get the most often. So, TMI warning, I have to put my (clean) index finger up there because there is often is not enough on TP to really see the differences. And, what I do is I rub my index finger and thumb and see how it feels as I create that friction. If it keeps feeling slippery, just like a personal lubricant would, that is Watery/lubricative. If it gets dryer as I do that, it is creamy/non-lubricative. If you are easily able to tell your O without CM info it may not matter for you, but I use my CM to tell me when to start taking OPKs and HIO, even though I will usually get fertile CM 4+ days before I O. 

cards10

zamora_spin said:

And, what I do is I rub my index finger and thumb and see how it feels as I create that friction. If it keeps feeling slippery, just like a personal lubricant would, that is Watery/lubricative. If it gets dryer as I do that, it is creamy/non-lubricative.

Nice! I had read the FF descriptors (admittedly a long time ago) but it talked about pulling your fingers apart. I will try rubbing them together and see if that works better for me. Thank you!

lurvleybunchococonuts

@zamora_spin thanks, I'll have to try that next cycle if need be  I do usually *get a sample* instead of relying on what's on the TP and the more I check the more I understand/differentiate.  Although, what are your thoughts on the "creamy yet stretchy" type CM?

@kangaroo85 I'd post your chart on the chart stalk thread.  You have a lot of conflicting data, and the temps definitely add to the confusion lol.  Some of the other ladies may know more regarding the ferning, and which is a more accurate test, OPK vs microscope.  Like what @zamora_spin said, I don't believe O was CD14, but aside from that, I'm at a loss.  But again, post it to the chart stalk thread, I'd love to see what the other ladies think/learn more

ETA: further thoughts

AlyshaRoseh

Month/ Cycle: 1/1

CD/DPO: 24/8 or 9

Timing -5/ O or -1

Typical LP length: 12-13

Testing: holding out a few more days till day 12. Tested yesterday, BFN, I know the chances of anything at 7/8 dpo were low but I wanted to be sure I could drink...

R/R: Starbucks blonde cinnamon almond iced macchiato so yum!! 

CS/ Q: Were experiencing a heat wave currently, could this be affecting my waking temp?

GTKY: Once my DH was told he looks like James VanDerBeek (Dawson's creek) in an airport like ten years ago haha!!

@lurvleybunchococonuts yes rave to all the coffee!!

@LazyCrane hope your drs. goes OK, bad sleeping makes me second guess my temping

@oneblessedmess jealous of your target day, they don't exist in Canada anymore. It was THE best

@ajsanders-2 even if you had O day 12 or 14, you look covered for BD lots of chances

holli0801

Month/cycle:  

7/7

CD/DPO: 

15/2

Timing: meh.... O, +1

Typical LP Length: 12-14ish

Testing: not until AF is missed 

R/R: back to work after 10 days off. Not too bad though!

CS/Q:

GTKY: What celeb looks most like YH? 
Adam Levine... but with a touch of gray

Love all the gifs!!!.. I'm lame and always on mobile! Boo!
PS- lunch break cut short, so I'll respond to others later!!! 

dukestar5

@kangaroo85 -Lurking for WTO, but people say my hubby looks like the Brawny man too when he has a beard!

@zamora_spin. tell me more about YH's painting party? It sounds cool! What kind of art did you make?

isntthatspeshul

@zamora_spin super helpful descriptions, thanks! I'm going to try to track that better next cycle!

zamoraspin

@dukestar5 MH has a lot of nerdy hobbies, and one of them involves painting models. So he has tons of paints and brushes on hand and what we did was buy a bunch of canvases (16x20s, and then one big one as the communal painting) and people did their own thing. Some folks did really amazing free hand work (like, one guest made a painting of one of our dogs and it really does look like him), others followed something they'd found online, others used a more modern approach. No rules, just have fun with it. People came up with really neat stuff. 

@lurvleybunchococonuts Hmm, creamy yet stretchy. I think I may have experienced this post-O before (but I'm not totally sure) and my recollection is that that type is stretchy somewhat but will break apart much more easily than EWCM and feels less slippery, so, not fertile. 

JennyColada

Man this thread is blowing up. Gonna do my best to reply to everyone, sorry in advance if I miss you!

@cards10 hopefully you got good timing! It's always tough when you don't really know.

@lurvelybunchococonuts it's not too bad! At least you got some within the window! But I'm right there with you with my -2. Solidarity sister!

@MrsMiller8588 did you have a good weekend? How was the baseball game(s)?

@LazyCrane sorry for the cycle confusion!

@kangaroo85 hasn't happened to me, but I'm a newb to FF. Is it possible that maybe you did O later?

oneblessedmess good luck at Target lol.

becausescience that's nice having a bit of a "girl's day"! Having your mom treat you to lunch is the best part of visiting family (at least it is for me!).

isntthatspeshul your temps are looking great!

wisewitch222 yea is it just me or is that "testing" question like super anxiety inducing? Every time I have to answer it I'm like "I DON'T KNOW STOP PRESSURING ME!"

Month/cycle:  3/3

CD/DPO: 17/4

Timing: -2

Typical LP Length: 16-17 days

Testing: idk, tbd

R/R: I'm sooooo hungry! I can't wait for lunch. Big plans tomorrow (it's my day off, so I may not be bumping a lot): Interview at 10am, another interview at 1:30, massage at 3:45!

CS/Q: So, um...I got EWCM today? wat? Please tell me I'm normal. Did I maybe not O when I thought (despite fertile CM, peak OPKs and a BBT jump?)?

(Will post chart on mobile, since I can't figure out how to post on desktop)
ETA:


GTKY: What celeb looks most like YH?

I have no idea. No one? He has a shaved head, but he's not super muscular

mschanandlerbong1214

Month/cycle:  4/3

CD/DPO: 28/5

Timing: -3, -2, -1

Typical LP Length: 

Testing: 10 more days. 

R/R: rave - for the last 2 cycle AF has shown up exactly 1 week after a +opk. No sign of her yet so I'm already more hopeful than the last 3 months. 
Rant - I am crazy exhausted and I have a horrible headache. Not exactly conducive to being productive. 

CS/Q:

GTKY: What celeb looks most like YH? I don't think he really looks like anyone. At first glance he gets mistaken for Hawaiian a lot but he's Dominican and Salvadorian. According to a look a like app though he looks like Cuba Gooding Jr. 

isntthatspeshul

@JennyColada do you usually ovulate around CD13? Can you HIO today/tomorrow just in case? 

@mschanandlerbong1214 - Positive vibes! that's great that AF is staying away! 

JennyColada

@isnthatspeshul I don't really have a "usual" yet since I've just been charting 1 cycle, but last cycle I O'd CD15 and the one before I think I did on CD17 (based on CM). I think I will try to HIO just in case. The annoying thing is that I THOUGHT I would O today and when all signs pointed to O on CD13 I was caught off guard.

kangaroo85

@zamora_spin - yes to everything except "positive on a ferning microscope on CD19." That was human error/fat finger, lol. I just removed it to see if that is what is triggering the O delay but FF is still trying to move my O from CD 14 to CD 22 when I input my temps from yesterday and today. I would agree with you that my O date was likely after CD 14 the day I got peak OPK using a LH test. But regardless of all the details, I'm just trying to figure out why FF is moving my O date so drastically. So confused!  Thanks for your feedback, I love having a second set of eyes on this! 

becausescience

I'm back from visiting my grandma.  Trip went well and I got to see my aunt and cousins too.

  

@LazyCrane  How did your appt go?

@JennyColada To me it is weird that you dropped below the coverline so soon after O (and have EWCM), so it could be possible that the first was just a fake out.  I'd HIO tonight just in case though.

@mschanandlerbong1214 One week after +opk.  That is a crazy short LP if you are Oing a 24-36 after the +opk.  Hopefully your cycles are figuring themselves out after (I think) your mirena was taken out.  FX for you!

@zamora_spin Awesome CM descriptions!

@AlyshaRoseh @eliz2791 Sorry for the BFNs.  FX it is just too early.

@kangaroo85 I think I may agree about CD17 for O.  FF is probably having a tough time because you started mid cycle so it can't figure out your coverline.  But the Chart Stalk thread may yield better answers.

lurvleybunchococonuts

@jennycolada why did you have open circles for O & post O temps, were they time differences? Just wondering if that caused higher than norm temps so it's a false O for 7/6? Maybe ask the chart stalk thread their thoughts?
ETA: either way I suggest hio tonight

JennyColada

@lurvleybunchococonuts, yea, I have a pretty wonky sleep schedule and often wake up anywhere between 4-7am.

lurvleybunchococonuts

@JennyColada ah gotcha, I have a weird sleep schedule too (wake up a lot) but thankfully I can fall back asleep pretty easy. So I have an alarm set for 3:30 (usually will have a minimum of 3hours sleep by then) take my temp, record it, and go back to sleep until 4:00-5:00 when get up for work. Otherwise depending on the day/week I may have to be up earlier or later than that. I do that on the weekend too, but being able to fall asleep easily helps with that
TLDR, I hope you can figure out a consistent time/way to temp which I imagine would help with solid CH vs dotted and have less confusion? 
ETA: finishing thoughts

JennyColada

@lurvleybunchococonuts I suck at falling back to sleep! If I'm up, I'm UP. My last cycle was totally fine with solid CH and stuff (and I feel like I actually got more open circles then!). I'm just being totally thrown off by the random EWCM because normally all fertile signs are pretty streamlined with me (but I know, "you're normal until you're not"). I guess I'll just see how it shakes out!

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@eliz2791 @ajsanders-2  Hey ladies!  Wishing you well for this cycle!  Just wanted to drop by and let you know (or maybe you already know - not clear) that you are only fertile -5 through O day.  Some people include +1 as timing but that's usually only if they aren't completely sure about their O day.  Any day after O is no longer your fertile week. As in there has never, ever been a recorded pregnancy that resulted from intercourse any time after the day of ovulation.  I mention this because I noticed for timing you included several days after you suspect O.  Anyways, just thought I'd share that just in case it would interest you.



Also ETA here's a study that's a good read regarding timing:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199512073332301#t=article
But if that's TLDR here's a pretty graph

SkilledSailor

@JennyColada Yay for your interviews!! Good luck! How do you feel about the potential positions? And a massage at the end of all that is perfection.

mschanandlerbong1214

@becausescience the last two cycles were anovulatory so the fact that I got CH and no AF yet is a HUGE improvement even if I'm not KU! 

cards10

antoto said:

you are only fertile -5 through O day.  Some people include +1 as timing but that's usually only if they aren't completely sure about their O day.  Any day after O is no longer your fertile week. 

Also ETA here's a study that's a good read regarding timing:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199512073332301#t=article
But if that's TLDR here's a pretty graph

I. Love. Graphs. Thanks for sharing! How weird that there would be a higher probability on -5 and -4 than on -3. I wonder why. 

saralee797-2

@cards10 I believe it is because sperm can live inside a woman for approximately 5 days. So if you have -5 timing the sperm are already waiting in the Fallopian tubes and have a greater chance of meeting the egg. A really good video to watch is The Great Sperm Race. You can find it on you tube and it is something your H might even want to watch too. Mine found it really informative! 

ETA: sorry I read that wrong. I'm not sure why -3 would have that dip?! Interesting. 

cards10

saralee797-2 said:

@cards10 I believe it is because sperm can live inside a woman for approximately 5 days. So if you have -5 timing the sperm are already waiting in the Fallopian tubes and have a greater chance of meeting the egg. A really good video to watch is The Great Sperm Race. You can find it on you tube and it is something your H might even want to watch too. Mine found it really informative! 

ETA: sorry I read that wrong. I'm not sure why -3 would have that dip?! Interesting. 

I second the recommendation for The Great Sperm Race. It is actually pretty epic. I found myself rooting for the little swimmers/ human runners like "you can do it, get in there"

becausescience

@mschanandlerbong1214 Yay for CH!

lurvleybunchococonuts

Darn you @antato for pointing out I have the least probability while still in FW great info though! 

LazyCrane

@becausescience, they did a progesterone test that I'll get the results of tomorrow. RE thinks I probably ovulated Tuesday. She said we could do an ultrasound if I want but that the blood test would be more conclusive and less expensive. 

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saralee797-2 said:

@cards10 I believe it is because sperm can live inside a woman for approximately 5 days. So if you have -5 timing the sperm are already waiting in the Fallopian tubes and have a greater chance of meeting the egg. A really good video to watch is The Great Sperm Race. You can find it on you tube and it is something your H might even want to watch too. Mine found it really informative! 

ETA: sorry I read that wrong. I'm not sure why -3 would have that dip?! Interesting. 

I would assume the difference is largely just due to a smallerish sample size.  I'm sure if you had a much larger sample size you would see -5,-4,-3 closer to the same, but -2,-1,0 still better.

ajsanders-2

@antoto Thank you! I am still learning, the whole charting thing so I write everything down, no joke, everything! haha. So I've gotten myself into a habit of noting everything. tee hee.