Sorry I didn't come back and update and I am still trying to figure out how to write this without sounding like an ungrateful brat but I was taken aback by our news yesterday. We started with 19 eggs but somehow only 8 were mature. Of those, 5 fertilized and made it to two cells (which falls generally within the 70% average). Stats would say only 1/2 make it to blast and we're not doing testing so who knows if they are even normal. I know it obviously could be worse and I don't really have a right to complain with 5 but, it's like you tell yourself to have reasonable expectations but then your heart goes and does something else. Traitor. We were really hoping we would have plenty to bank (because, you know, dreams of a big family) but it's not looking that way. I will be anxiously awaiting a 3 day report. I also really hope no one takes this the wrong way. I am just scared we might end up with nothing at the end of all this.
@saralee797-2 sorry your head and your heart appear to be on opposite sides. I hope you have 5 perfect little fighters there and your dreams of a big family still come through. I'm rooting for you with everything I have!
Edit: grammer
Me: 31 DH: 32 Dating since: 11/17/2001 Married: 9/26/2009 TTC: June 2016
@moni2016 I haven't been on clomid before but some other ladies here have. That sucks you're bloating. I have had cancelled cycles twice before though, and I know that stings. Sorry you had to cancel.
@heatherdubrow and @ramzlau thanks for chiming in! I feel like I'm going crazy with the mood swings and it's good to know I'm not the only one.
@anna_1021 and @Ramzlau let's definitely make a pact! I'm going to start meditating 10 mins a day starting today (or at least I'll try to). I'll report back on how it goes. I hope you guys can fit in some meditation this week too!
I hear you @saralee797-2. This whole thing is such a rollercoaster. 19 sounded SO PROMISING! then to see each number drop so drastically must be scary. If you don't end up with too many extra to freeze, would you be able to consider another retrieval cycle sooner, rather than waiting till after FET and potentially an entire term pgcy (!) in between??? Or are they planning to do fresh transfer as well? (((Hugs))) try to trust that it will be okay... ❤
@BusinessWife You hit the nail on the head. The original plan was a fresh 5 day transfer but now I don't know. I am supposed to get a call today where they may recommend a 3 day transfer tomorrow. I am considering another round to bank. I know I can handle it physically but mentally/emotionally just, ugh. I am beginning to suspect that the protocol may have been wrong as I google. On average, 10-15% should have been mature. I think I have to call the doctor but I am back to work and every time I think/talk about it I tear up.
This is going to be a little on the Dear Diary side. Please forgive me.
Unfortunately, things went from bad to worse yesterday. After my ER on Monday only retrieved one egg the doctor called himself yesterday and the minute I heard his voice I knew it was bad news. The egg fertilized and then died soon after. I guess I'm relieved that I didn't have to wait another week for bad news but obviously I'm devastated that this was another bad cycle. There are some appointments coming up. A follow-up (aka WTF) appt with our doctor in a couple of weeks and a second opinion appt with another doctor at the practice the next day. I'm eager to hear their thoughts and if they think its worth continuing.
More importantly I am trying to get an appt with one of the counselors at The Domar Center which is affiliated with my clinic (Domar as in Alice Domar, author of Conquering Infertility). It's unlikely that I will get to meet with Dr. Domar herself but I think counseling with someone there will be helpful regardless. I'm hoping a therapist can guide me and H with the right questions to make some decisions going forward about what we do next. (fuck, now I'm crying at my desk writing this)
I think our journey to conceive a child from my own eggs is likely almost over so if I vanish in the near future it's because I'm trying to deal but I love this community and I'm so grateful that I have had all of you to hold my virtual hand through this fight. I hope I was as helpful to you as you have been to me.
History and blog link in spoiler
2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks May 2020 FET; BFN July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate Oct 2020 BFP!
Aww hun just call. @saralee797-2 Even if you are a bit teary doing it. Hopefully they will help you understand better what the plan is/was, and what they would like to see going forward. If rhey might have a whole new gameplan for round 2. Thats not unlike my bff right now, cycle #1. They only got the 3 eggs and are now hopefully! preparing for a 3-day fresh transfer tomorrow too, but they are maybe only OAD, so I get wanting to have a big big family. :blush: Everything in due time. fx for both of you to get good news today, and between you and your doctors, you come up with a plan you feel good about. ❤
@laurad75. Oh no.... (((hugs))) wow. That is devastating news and I'm so sorry to hear that. :'( counselling does sound like a great idea, tho. Definitely pursue that! I don't have any specific advice, but know what we love you and we believe in you, too. Please make sure you take good care between now and your next apt... ❤❤❤
@laurad75 I am sorry to hear about your results. I hope that the appointments you have set up are helpful in finding a path forward. I completely understand that you need to do what is best for you but know you have been a major source of knowledge, support and kindness here. I will be thinking of you and hoping for the best. Hugs today.
@saralee797-2 Fx for you that your 5 are rockstars. I'm sorry the rollercoaster continues. @laurad75 I'm sorry that this cycle was a bust. Counseling sounds like a positive step to support whatever direction you go in next. Hugs
@laurad75 oh love I'm so sorry. I hope you can get that appointment and get some help sorting through this. And take all the time you need but know we are all here for you.
hey ladies, just popping in to update @safire3 and @RatParade but I don't see ratparade in the thread, so I am not sure what is going on for her. I haven't been on in well over a week so I may have missed updates. Wanted to let you know that H had blood work done a week or two ago (I have lost track of all time) because of the estrogen blocker he was on just to check his T and FSH levels. They are well within normal limits, but the urologist pushed our repeat SA (three months on clomid and Theralogix supplements) two more months. He wants three months of really good numbers. So now we are looking into July for a repeat SA. So I didn't forget to update you girls, I just don't have any news.
In more depressing news... In trying to cope with the death of my father, my aunt died, and last night we had to put a beloved family dog down. 2017, worst year of my life.
I really hope all of you are well. I am sorry I didn't read through all of your updates, but you all are so supportive and I really do wish the best for all of you. I know this is such a big month for so many of you.
32 years old (both H and I) Dating 7/2008 Married 7/2014 H Type I Diabetic TTC 1/2016
12/2016
mental break from TTC-NTNP
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL) 1/17/2017
SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility) 1/18/2017
STP tubes clear 2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements 6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility 7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm) 8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup 9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze 9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid 9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
Well shit. I'm so sorry ladies. Big huge hugs to you.
@laurad75 I'm so sorry for your bad news. That is devastating. I hope the counseling helps and I want to say on behalf of all of us -- take all the time you need to process whether that is here or off TB. I know how horrible it is to face that uncertainty of the next step. Please know you are ALWAYS welcome to PM me if you want to talk (even if it's months from now). We you.
@saralee797-2 I get it. That blows. You invest so much time and emotional energy and physical exertion into this and it doesn't do what you need -- that sucks no matter how you cut it. I hope your doctor can give you some clarity about next steps and alternative protocols but just my two cents -- while normally I am all for repeated egg retrievals and banking, if they think a 3 day transfer is your best bet for these guys, maybe do it. We you too and we're here if you want to talk it out or cobtemplate what to do.
@saralee797-2 I'm sorry things aren't going quite as you imagined As cynical as we all get, it's hard not to get hopes up. I have my fingers crossed so much for you and your 5.
@laurad75 Sending you all my hugs and love I'm so sorry. I hope you find some peace in the near future (however that looks). Take whatever time you need for yourself, but know that we're all here for you.
Me: 23 | DH: 30
Married November 2016 TTC #1 November 2016
Dx Anovulatory/NIR PCOS April 2017 50mg Clomid June 2017 BFP June, 21 2017 | EDD March 4, 2018
@JuneRoseRuby I'm so sorry you're dealing with so much loss Please take care of yourself. FX your repeat SA goes according to plan and you have good news coming around the corner ASAP.
Me: 23 | DH: 30
Married November 2016 TTC #1 November 2016
Dx Anovulatory/NIR PCOS April 2017 50mg Clomid June 2017 BFP June, 21 2017 | EDD March 4, 2018
@laurad75 oh honey, I'm so sorry for the bad news. I hope your next couple of appointments are able to shed some light on what's happening and finding a way to move forward that you and your H are comfortable with. Much love and the biggest hugs possible.
@JuneRoseRuby universe, can you please cut this sweet girl a damn break? I'm sorry that all of the negative stuff keeps building. I hope the next few months brings you all the happy things that you deserve.
Me: 31 DH: 32 Dating since: 11/17/2001 Married: 9/26/2009 TTC: June 2016
@JuneRoseRuby. I am so, so sorry about the loss of your father, your aunt, and your pal. :'( It's <i>Gotta</i> get better from here, right? ❤ (((hugs)))
@laurad75 sorry for your news! I hope the counseling can help you find answers and a plan that is right for you!
@JuneRoseRuby dealing with the loss of so many loved ones and a pet is hard, so sorry you are going through so much. I hope you are taking care of yourself!
@madspunk I am in! Goal today is 10 min for me too!
Back from another monitoring appointment. They've found 4 follicles ugh I wanted more. Now we add cetrotide and have another appointment Friday. Possible retrieval on Monday!
@saralee797-2 You should not need to apologize for being disappointed and upset over this. It totally makes sense. This is such a rollercoaster for all of us and your reaction to any news belongs to you. I really hope you get good news about those 5 and that you don't have to do another ER, but it sounds like you are mentally prepared to do another if you need to. You're doing all the right things and I hope good things come your way soon
@laurad75 I'm so sorry to hear this. You're doing the right thing going to a counselor. You have contributed a lot to this community, and we will be sad to see you disappear if that's what you decide to do, but everyone will also understand that you have to do what's best for you right now both physically as well as emotionally. Sending a lot of your way and hoping the best for you.
@JuneRoseRuby I'm so sorry to hear you had even more losses. That's awful. Please take care of yourself. I hope 2017 improves for you and that you get some time to yourself to heal from all this.
So much bad news today. I hate this. I hope everyone makes it through the day OK and that this flood of shit ends right now.
Oh ladies. My heart feels so heavy to read these updates today.
@saralee797-2 Your feelings are absolutely justified and I would be feeling the exact same thing. I'm going to be sending so much love and good vibes to your embabies.
@laurad75 my heart felt like it hit the floor when I read your update. I am so sorry. I imagine the feeling of loss must be overwhelming. Take whatever you need with time and space from this board. Just know that we are all here for you whenever you need us. Please take good care of yourself.
@JuneRoseRuby Big hugs for you coming from me. I am sorry you are dealing with all this loss and sadness. I'll be sending you love and hoping all goes well with your H in the coming months.
God when it rains it absolutely freaking shit storms.
@saralee797-2 everyone here understandso completely how the brain and the heart are just so drastically different. So many hugs as the never ending rounds of decisions that is IF continue.
@laurad75 so so sorry my friend. You are so strong to think of next steps and take them. This just sucks and as you go through it all, please know we are all here for you.
@JuneRoseRuby so sorry. Your family is in my thoughts and prayers. Loss is so hard and I hope you can begin to find peace and comfort as time goes on.
Me: 32, DH: 31 Together: 11/2008, married: 3/2014 DH: Type 1 Diabetes, (dx 4/15) Celiac Disease (dx 11/14), Treatment induced Neuropathy of Diabetes (dx 7/15) DH SA: 11/16: low count and low motility DH SA: 12/16: borderline low, count and motility 1/20/17: BFP, 1/24/17: CP 5/17:low AMH (0.89) 6/17: first IUI cycle, 50 mg clomid + ovidrel + IUI: 2 follies, BFN (count 58 million, 97% motility) 7/17: second IUI, 2.5 letrozole, OPK, IUI: 1 follie, BFN (count 9.5 million swimming- dont know percentage) 8/17: third IUI, 5.0 letrozole,
@JuneRoseRuby I'm so sorry for all of your losses. Its been a shitty year for you.
@saralee797-2 I will echo everyone else and say you're feelings are valid. A lot of hope goes into IVF and when it doesn't turn out the way you expected its completely devastating. Hugs lady.
Oh @laurad75, I am so so sorry. My heart hurts so much for you...I can't help but cry with you. That is so devastating. It sounds like you're at work, but maybe it's time to take a mental health day and let yourself cry and scream, and whatever you need. On days like this, nothing is more important than you and your H. I truly hope it's not the end of the road for a biological LO, but if it is, I hope you find peace and joy in whatever road you next choose. I don't think anything is comforting right now, but you are most definitely not alone. I'm here doing this AMA/DOR thing, too, so please don't hesitate to reach out if you need to talk to someone who gets just how fucked up it is. Love and hugs to you.
@JuneRoseRuby 2017 has indeed been shitty for you. I'm so sorry you're going through all that, much less all at once.
I've posted it before, but this sums up how I feel about all of our hard news this week:
Also, this:
And oh yeah, this:
Me: 45 OH: 42 Beloved SS: born 12/2011 TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016 **TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW** August 2016 - dx with DOR Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T May 2017 - began freezing sperm June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
Me: late 30s | H: early 30s TTC #1 since April 2015 RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016 IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal Polyp removed May 2017 FET May 2017 - BFP! Baby boy born 2/2/18
@laurad75 and @saralee797-2 I am sorry for your bad news as well. I did at least read this page just now to catch up on your stories.
Back to hibernation mode. GL to all of you!
32 years old (both H and I) Dating 7/2008 Married 7/2014 H Type I Diabetic TTC 1/2016
12/2016
mental break from TTC-NTNP
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL) 1/17/2017
SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility) 1/18/2017
STP tubes clear 2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements 6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility 7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm) 8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup 9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze 9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid 9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
All 5 are still there but progressing differently. 1 at 2 cell; 3 at 4 cells and 1 at 6 cells. They recommend a 5 day transfer which is Saturday but I also asked to speak with my RE to see what we should do.
@saralee797-2 I am glad the 5 you have are progressing. I know you were disappointed it was only 5 (and I totally get that, and would probably feel the same way) but at least all 5 you have are g
@saralee797-2 Happy to hear they are progressing well! Just a few more days now!
For all of you doing IVF this cycle, I was reading this article tonight about the risks and benefits of single vs multiple transfers and found some of it interesting so thought I would share. I know someone on this thread is a research pro that can probably figure out the accuracy of the conclusions reached in the article, but I found it interesting nonetheless.
<a href="https://www.fertilityiq.com/embryo-transfer/the-risks-and-benefits-of-single-and-multiple-embryo-transfer" title="Link: https://www.fertilityiq.com/embryo-transfer/the-risks-and-benefits-of-single-and-multiple-embryo-transfer">The Risks and Benefits of Single vs Multiple Transfers</a>
*lurker* Thanks for sharing that article, @ramzlau. Even though we are a few months out from our IVF cycle, I specifically asked our doctor about transferring 1 versus 2 embryos. I do realize that his advice is very specific to our situation, but perhaps others might find his response to be helpful in conversations with their own medical teams: "If we do PGS, the implantation potential is so high for each embryo that I would strongly recommend transferring
only 1. If we were unsuccessful with the 1, maybe we would consider 2
the next time, but I would really, really, really only want to do 1. If we don't do PGS, the implantation potential is not as high, so we may
consider 2 to maximize our chances that even one implants."
Me: 35 DH: 28 TTC since June 2016 Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016 AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017 Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017 October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total) Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen 12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP 2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone Abnormal SIS Oct 2018 Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis. 12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN Our journey has come to an end.
@ramzlau and @AlohaKumu that's really good information! We are planning to transfer 2 as we did not test them. We transferred one last time. TW with my other two children we transferred two both times, and got a single pregnancy end TW. My RE is pretty conservative about it but she is on board with transferring 2 this time. But it's definitely something to really consider.
I flip flop often over the 2 vs 1 concept. Even as I write this I have changed my mind 3 times already. I have no idea how I will end up making this choice in two months for my FET. I think a big part of it, for me, may end up coming down to the total number of good embryos that we get. It's extremely personal and, as the article says, there are just so many different factors to consider. That very last part weighs heavily on me. How many times do I want to do this to my body? How much money can I afford to throw into this? How many times can I do this to myself before it becomes emotionally unhealthy? Transferring two does seem to ease those stresses to a certain extent.
@antoto the original plan was to transfer only one embryo back on a fresh transfer. My doc seems to have the same philosophy as @AlohaKumu However, I'm not opposed to transferring two. We don't mind the idea of twins and financially we could handle it. I do worry about their health and what complications could arise. But transferring two doesn't mean two will take and I've also seen really healthy twin pregnancies too. I think it might depend on how many we have left at the end of this. If there is only two, I might just push to transfer both and if it doesn't stick start all over. If there are more, I might end up freezing the rest and putting back only one. It's going to be a tough decision for me because we aren't testing them so we will be in the dark about normal/abnormal.
Ive been doing some reading about how embryos develop and there is some research out there that says if an embryo is developing too slow or too fast (they should double each day) that it may be a sign that it is abnormal. Anyone else read this? Or have anecdotal evidence?
We are planning on transferring 1 day 5 of 2 day 3s since day 5s have a higher chance of working. If we had implantation failure with a day 5 or had 2 day 5s that weren't good enough quality to freeze we would do 2.
Thank you for this information...we have briefly talked about it and I think it will depend on how many we have left. Since I'm potentially starting with 4 follicles I might not have any decision to make.
On another note - has anyone used cetrotide? I'm not liking it. Omg it just burns in my stomach.
Re: IF/Testing Weekly Check-in 5/15
Edit: grammer
Dating since: 11/17/2001
Married: 9/26/2009
TTC: June 2016
EDD: 5/14/2018
@heatherdubrow and @ramzlau thanks for chiming in! I feel like I'm going crazy with the mood swings and it's good to know I'm not the only one.
@anna_1021 and @Ramzlau let's definitely make a pact! I'm going to start meditating 10 mins a day starting today (or at least I'll try to). I'll report back on how it goes. I hope you guys can fit in some meditation this week too!
ETA: Sorry, 10-15% should have been immature.
Unfortunately, things went from bad to worse yesterday. After my ER on Monday only retrieved one egg the doctor called himself yesterday and the minute I heard his voice I knew it was bad news. The egg fertilized and then died soon after. I guess I'm relieved that I didn't have to wait another week for bad news but obviously I'm devastated that this was another bad cycle. There are some appointments coming up. A follow-up (aka WTF) appt with our doctor in a couple of weeks and a second opinion appt with another doctor at the practice the next day. I'm eager to hear their thoughts and if they think its worth continuing.
More importantly I am trying to get an appt with one of the counselors at The Domar Center which is affiliated with my clinic (Domar as in Alice Domar, author of Conquering Infertility). It's unlikely that I will get to meet with Dr. Domar herself but I think counseling with someone there will be helpful regardless. I'm hoping a therapist can guide me and H with the right questions to make some decisions going forward about what we do next. (fuck, now I'm crying at my desk writing this)
I think our journey to conceive a child from my own eggs is likely almost over so if I vanish in the near future it's because I'm trying to deal but I love this community and I'm so grateful that I have had all of you to hold my virtual hand through this fight. I hope I was as helpful to you as you have been to me.
2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
Take a look at my blog
@laurad75 I'm sorry that this cycle was a bust. Counseling sounds like a positive step to support whatever direction you go in next. Hugs
In more depressing news... In trying to cope with the death of my father, my aunt died, and last night we had to put a beloved family dog down. 2017, worst year of my life.
I really hope all of you are well. I am sorry I didn't read through all of your updates, but you all are so supportive and I really do wish the best for all of you. I know this is such a big month for so many of you.
Dating 7/2008
Married 7/2014
H Type I Diabetic
TTC 1/2016
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL)
1/17/2017 SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility)
1/18/2017 STP tubes clear
2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation
H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements
6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility
7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm)
8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup
9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze
9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid
9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim
October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
@laurad75 I'm so sorry for your bad news. That is devastating. I hope the counseling helps and I want to say on behalf of all of us -- take all the time you need to process whether that is here or off TB. I know how horrible it is to face that uncertainty of the next step. Please know you are ALWAYS welcome to PM me if you want to talk (even if it's months from now). We
@saralee797-2 I get it. That blows. You invest so much time and emotional energy and physical exertion into this and it doesn't do what you need -- that sucks no matter how you cut it. I hope your doctor can give you some clarity about next steps and alternative protocols but just my two cents -- while normally I am all for repeated egg retrievals and banking, if they think a 3 day transfer is your best bet for these guys, maybe do it. We
@laurad75 Sending you all my hugs and love
TTC #1 November 2016
50mg Clomid June 2017
BFP June, 21 2017 | EDD March 4, 2018
But I am happy to hear there's good SA news coming down the line. Thinking of you
TTC #1 November 2016
50mg Clomid June 2017
BFP June, 21 2017 | EDD March 4, 2018
@JuneRoseRuby universe, can you please cut this sweet girl a damn break? I'm sorry that all of the negative stuff keeps building. I hope the next few months brings you all the happy things that you deserve.
Dating since: 11/17/2001
Married: 9/26/2009
TTC: June 2016
EDD: 5/14/2018
@JuneRoseRuby dealing with the loss of so many loved ones and a pet is hard, so sorry you are going through so much. I hope you are taking care of yourself!
@madspunk I am in! Goal today is 10 min for me too!
@laurad75 I'm so sorry to hear this. You're doing the right thing going to a counselor. You have contributed a lot to this community, and we will be sad to see you disappear if that's what you decide to do, but everyone will also understand that you have to do what's best for you right now both physically as well as emotionally. Sending a lot of
@JuneRoseRuby I'm so sorry to hear you had even more losses. That's awful. Please take care of yourself. I hope 2017 improves for you and that you get some time to yourself to heal from all this.
So much bad news today.
@saralee797-2 Your feelings are absolutely justified and I would be feeling the exact same thing. I'm going to be sending so much love and good vibes to your embabies.
@laurad75 my heart felt like it hit the floor when I read your update. I am so sorry. I imagine the feeling of loss must be overwhelming. Take whatever you need with time and space from this board. Just know that we are all here for you whenever you need us. Please take good care of yourself.
@JuneRoseRuby Big hugs for you coming from me. I am sorry you are dealing with all this loss and sadness. I'll be sending you love and hoping all goes well with your H in the coming months.
@saralee797-2 everyone here understandso completely how the brain and the heart are just so drastically different. So many hugs as the never ending rounds of decisions that is IF continue.
@laurad75 so so sorry my friend. You are so strong to think of next steps and take them. This just sucks and as you go through it all, please know we are all here for you.
@JuneRoseRuby so sorry. Your family is in my thoughts and prayers. Loss is so hard and I hope you can begin to find peace and comfort as time goes on.
Together: 11/2008, married: 3/2014
DH: Type 1 Diabetes, (dx 4/15) Celiac Disease (dx 11/14), Treatment induced Neuropathy of Diabetes (dx 7/15)
DH SA: 11/16: low count and low motility
DH SA: 12/16: borderline low, count and motility
1/20/17: BFP, 1/24/17: CP
5/17:low AMH (0.89)
6/17: first IUI cycle, 50 mg clomid + ovidrel + IUI: 2 follies, BFN (count 58 million, 97% motility)
7/17: second IUI, 2.5 letrozole, OPK, IUI: 1 follie, BFN (count 9.5 million swimming- dont know percentage)
8/17: third IUI, 5.0 letrozole,
@saralee797-2 I will echo everyone else and say you're feelings are valid. A lot of hope goes into IVF and when it doesn't turn out the way you expected its completely devastating. Hugs lady.
@JuneRoseRuby 2017 has indeed been shitty for you. I'm so sorry you're going through all that, much less all at once.
I've posted it before, but this sums up how I feel about all of our hard news this week:
Also, this:
And oh yeah, this:
Beloved SS: born 12/2011
TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016
**TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW**
August 2016 - dx with DOR
Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T
May 2017 - began freezing sperm
June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T
July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba
July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
Also, thanks everyone for your support. I really appreciate it.
@saralee797-2 @laurad75 @JuneRoseRuby Gah, what a terrible week! I'm sorry for all the bad news. Hugs to you all.
TTC #1 since April 2015
RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016
IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN
IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal
Polyp removed May 2017
FET May 2017 - BFP!
Baby boy born 2/2/18
@laurad75 and @saralee797-2 I am sorry for your bad news as well. I did at least read this page just now to catch up on your stories.
Back to hibernation mode. GL to all of you!
Dating 7/2008
Married 7/2014
H Type I Diabetic
TTC 1/2016
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL)
1/17/2017 SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility)
1/18/2017 STP tubes clear
2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation
H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements
6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility
7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm)
8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup
9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze
9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid
9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim
October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
@saralee797-2 I am glad the 5 you have are progressing. I know you were disappointed it was only 5 (and I totally get that, and would probably feel the same way) but at least all 5 you have are g
For all of you doing IVF this cycle, I was reading this article tonight about the risks and benefits of single vs multiple transfers and found some of it interesting so thought I would share. I know someone on this thread is a research pro that can probably figure out the accuracy of the conclusions reached in the article, but I found it interesting nonetheless.
<a href="https://www.fertilityiq.com/embryo-transfer/the-risks-and-benefits-of-single-and-multiple-embryo-transfer" title="Link: https://www.fertilityiq.com/embryo-transfer/the-risks-and-benefits-of-single-and-multiple-embryo-transfer">The Risks and Benefits of Single vs Multiple Transfers</a>Even though we are a few months out from our IVF cycle, I specifically asked our doctor about transferring 1 versus 2 embryos. I do realize that his advice is very specific to our situation, but perhaps others might find his response to be helpful in conversations with their own medical teams: "If we do PGS, the implantation potential is so high for each embryo that I would strongly recommend transferring only 1. If we were unsuccessful with the 1, maybe we would consider 2 the next time, but I would really, really, really only want to do 1. If we don't do PGS, the implantation potential is not as high, so we may consider 2 to maximize our chances that even one implants."
TTC since June 2016
Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016
AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
Our journey has come to an end.
Ive been doing some reading about how embryos develop and there is some research out there that says if an embryo is developing too slow or too fast (they should double each day) that it may be a sign that it is abnormal. Anyone else read this? Or have anecdotal evidence?
On another note - has anyone used cetrotide? I'm not liking it. Omg it just burns in my stomach.