@vflux33@icecubeinthedesert Yes, I think the move is going to be good. I'm not sure I could handle my mom living down the street from me, but a couple hours is great, good for a weekend visit but also not close enough for surprise drop-ins. Also - on benadryl - antihistamines, including benadryl but also including Claritin and other day-time allergy meds allegedly reduce creation of CF I don't know that they impact temps though. This is a major bummer to me because I live in an especially bad city for pollen but abstain from my allergy meds pre and during O (and also a couple days after because of course it takes a couple days to confirm O).
@Dilynne Good for you! If you haven't seen these series they are very binge worthy: Westworld (HBO), Jessica Jones (Netflix), Golden Girls (yes, really, it's all on Hulu and I had totally forgotten or never realized how great that show is), House of Cards (Netflix, coming up for its next season soon), Orphan Black
@supercoolstephy Last cycle was my first off of BC and I O'd on CD 17. I was counting from the day Mirena came out (as instructed by doctor) but realistically I think AF started two days after Mirena was out, which maybe meant I O'd on CD 15. In any case, I started to have fertile signs (EWCM, almost-positive OPKs) on CD 11 this month, and had positive OPKs yesterday (CD12) and today (CD13). All of this to say, your cycles may not be regular. Why is one app saying you are fertile? You can sometimes have patches of fertile CF without ovulating as well, and I've even heard you can turn positive OPKs without ovulating. The hard thing is realizing you can't confirm O until after the fact via temp rise.
@labgrand2012 I'm sorry about your interaction with the nurse. I've been in a similar situation and I don't understand why they can't just take the time to either A. read everything so they have a full understanding of whats going on or B. Don't say anything about previous tests they see.
@JJMNO1616 don't feel guilty, it's really frustrating when they leave for a work trip during FW. DH and I have a system where he brings up a possible work trip and I look at the calendar and let him know if it's ok to go or if he should either go later or earlier. Sometimes he gets to decide what dates to go so if he finds out early enough and talks to me we can find a way to make it work.
CD: 6 according to FF, 5 according to my fertility monitor ::shrugs::
WAYDTGKU: temp charting, monitoring CM, Clearblue fertility monitor, will start OPKs again in a few days, prayer.
R/R: Idk I just feel really blah and tired today. Too tired to rant or rave.
CS/Q: I'm beginning to wonder if there's something wrong with either me or my BBT thermometer. My temps last cycle (when I charted them) were erratic and the average was low (97.4), and so far my temps this cycle are REALLY low. Yesterday my temp was 97.1, which seems a bit crazy to me. Granted, I took NSAIDs while I was on AF because I'm having achilles tendonitis. Maybe that has something to do with it. Anyone else have really low temps?
GTKY: Are you usually early, late, or right on time? I'm usually obscenely early, DH is usually obscenely late. If I nag him enough we're usually just a touch late or maybe even on time.
@JJMNO1616 I hate not having my phone!! I'm glad your hubs will be home. Don't feel guilty!
@Dilynne I'm glad you're feeling a bit better today! I've been binge watching the office. I also watched life in pieces fairly quickly...only one season is on Netflix though. It's pretty funny! I will warn you that it is following one couple with a newborn but I don't feel like it pushed any buttons. Just wanted to give you a heads up though.
@Sailing_Mama bm dress shopping and the whole will I/won't I is supper frustrating and a total mind F. Hoping you have an adorable little baby bump by then!!
@icecubeinthedesert has jokes!! I totally got a chuckle out of that one though
*lurking* @sunniegrly Erratic temps are totally normal for an-O cycles. While it may be indicative of PCOS, you'll find that more out with your upcoming tests. As for "normal" BBT temps, pre-O tends to be 96.5 - 97.5 and post-O jumps to 97.6 - 98.6. Right now, your temps are staying in a good range and relatively close, which is a good sign. Watch for that 0.5+ degree jump to see if you O this cycle
Me: 23 | DH: 30
Married November 2016 TTC #1 November 2016
Dx Anovulatory/NIR PCOS April 2017 50mg Clomid June 2017 BFP June, 21 2017 | EDD March 4, 2018
@kiwi2628 - Going on vacation and not monitoring anything sounds heavenly. DH and I are going on a 2 week vacation in June, and I'm still debating whether or not I want to lug pee sticks, pee cups, etc. with me. Would prob be useless anyways since we're going overseas and will have a 6 hour time change that I'm sure will screw with me. So I may be having a month like that in June. Yippee!
@BertieMeetsGertie - DH has a french press and loves it. You can get them pretty cheap, too.
@mschanandlerbong1214 Thanks!! I always see it mentioned on the BMBs and I haven't been able to figure it out! It isn't listed on the acronyms list.
@supercoolstephy Hope your cycles start to regulate soon! I have been off BC since January and my cycles are still changing a little month to month.
@vflux33 So glad to see you are off the bench but sorry about the long cycle. My H just had to say no lol there wasn't a ton of pressure for him to go... more his own pressure to be there. He doesn't like to say no to anyone... me included. I'm sure this won't be the last time he has to make a difficult work/family related decision though. So I guess it's good practice?
@zamora_spin Thanks for the heads up on Claritin and drying CM. I think my RE pushes ALL her patients to IUI or IVF immediately and thus isn't concerned about drying CM (that's part of why I put in the big caveat about this only being my doctor who said this etc.) Good to know, especially for @icecubeinthedesert!
@JJMNO1616 That's good. Yes definitely good practice! FWIW I don't think you should feel bad either. MH and I had the travel talk too--but it is way different for mine it sounds like because he really hates traveling, all his coworkers love traveling, and usually travel means he gets kicked off his own projects to bail other people out of their mistakes, which infuriates him. I am not sure how I'd deal if he actually wanted to go like yours, TBH. Anyway, your FW won out and that is always a good thing.
@sunniegrly I am so happy to see you here! Yes, I have similar pre-O temps too. I hope your O comes swiftly and predictably!
@sunniegrly, my temp this morning was 96.86, which is on the low end for me, but pre-o tends to hover around 97.1. I've heard that low temps can indicate thyroid issues (hypo), and I am borderline based on which day you take a blood draw
Me: 30 | DH: 31 Met: August 2006 Married: July 2012 TTC #1 since June 2016
@sunniegrly, my temp this morning was 96.86, which is on the low end for me, but pre-o tends to hover around 97.1. I've heard that low temps can indicate thyroid issues (hypo), and I am borderline based on which day you take a blood draw
^^ Good point. I think I remember something about this in TCOYF. Also the TSH test is very easy to get (can be through an OB), results come fast, and it's inexpensive.
@icecubeinthedesert - Yeah, I read the same thing, which is what had me concerned. But I had my thyroid levels checked in October 2016 (was having trouble losing weight and wanted to be sure it was because of a medicine I was on at the time rather than because of a thyroid issue). My tests came back normal then, but my anxious self saw my temps and was whispering in my ear "what if you still have a thyroid problem?" Sigh. I annoy myself with my repetitive anxious thoughts. Maybe I'll get my thyroid tested again just for peace of mind. I swear doctors make so much money off of people like me.
Side note: I was able to lose weight once I got off of the horrid medicine. But then I stopped dieting and started TTC and ate lots of french fries (which I hadn't had in like a year) and gained it all back. Nom nom nom fries.
Thank all of ya'll for the responses to my temp question! My anxiety on that is like 90% better now.
@sunniegrly, my temp this morning was 96.86, which is on the low end for me, but pre-o tends to hover around 97.1. I've heard that low temps can indicate thyroid issues (hypo), and I am borderline based on which day you take a blood draw
^^ Good point. I think I remember something about this in TCOYF. Also the TSH test is very easy to get (can be through an OB), results come fast, and it's inexpensive.
Just to add to this, reference values for normal are different for TTC, and should ideally be below 2.5 and should be treated if above 5. For the general population i these values are 5 and 10, respectively. These are the numbers I've seen the most, but if anyone knows otherwise, please correct me. My TSH is between 2.5 and 3 generally, and my current OB tends towards not treating in my case.
Me: 30 | DH: 31 Met: August 2006 Married: July 2012 TTC #1 since June 2016
@icecubeinthedesert@sunniegrly My OB calls the standard range 0.40 - 4.2 uIU/mL (so similar to what yours said). I'm on the low side of normal, but still within that range, and was told that was OK too.
@dilynne Good luck to your hubby for his interview.Unemployment can be so disheartening.I suspect it’s playing a part in your
mood.Please do talk to your doctor.
Good luck at your appointments
Month/Cycle: 1/1
CD: 3
WAYDTGKU: sporadic temping (due to poor sleep schedule), OPKs, CM, HIO
R/R: Tomorrow is the first day of 1 month of working on the
labour, deliver floor & in the obstetrical ORs.I’m pretty thankful that this has landed at
the beginning of this round of TTC.I
can’t imagine how tough it would be to be a doc (or nurse) on these wards as
TTC drags on (or worse, becomes IF).CS/Q: not yet
GTKY: Are you usually early, late, or right on time?
Either 15 minutes early, or 10 minutes late.There seems to be no in between for me.
PgAL (MC@7w 29/10/11 - lost you before we knew we had you)
@icecubeinthedesert@vflux33 - I can't remember what my levels were back in October. I'm going to ask them to check my thyroid when they do my bloodwork on the 18th though just to be safe. Because I'm me and I of course want All The Tests so I don't go insane with worry.
@sunniegrly No harm in doing that, especially if you're getting other tests done anyway. I got one at my preconception appointment in Jan 2016 and another in Feb 2017 and my TSH actually got closer to the middle of "normal" after that year (probably because of some diet changes I made but not totally sure).
@lulu1180 I'm so sorry your temp dropped. It's always crushing to see that
@RVAmom315 hopefully you got a good one in!! Nothing happened because we had to go buy a box of condoms to use until the 24th since I have to avoid getting pregnant. Fun times!
@mschanandlerbong1214 unfortunately we had to avoid this month medically but I just need a change to know I'm moving forward. And yay for a +OPK!
@heatherdubrow I love all the classes you take! What is yoga fusion?
@icecubeinthedesert hmm good question about the Benadryl! And sigh. I'll ask once I get over there and if anyone's offended, I'll just jump back over here. And I totally laughed at your joke!
@Dilynne GL to YH on his interview! I'm glad to hear that you have plans to see your doctor. During a year that was particularly difficult for me, I got the advice to go out and try new things/have new fun experiences, and that actually helped me quite a bit.
@heatherdubrow Congrats on your weight loss! That's awesome!
@icecubeinthedesert I'm not sure if Benadryl really does affect temps, but I have noticed that mine are often lower after I've taken it in the evening. I always just thought I must mouth breathe or something. Also, Your ovulation joke made me laugh. I can so relate!
@labgrand2012 Glad the your test went well! Sorry about the strep and that the nurse was insensitive. Some people don't think before they speak...
@Sailing_Mama I'm glad that you didn't have to get a size up. That would've been really rough.
@JJMNO1616 Leaving your phone at home is the worst feeling!!
@purplg8r, I reported on Radiance of Tomorrow by Ishmael Beah. It's a novel about life in Sierra Leone after the civil war there. One of those where I'm glad to have read it but I'm also glad to be done reading it, because it was pretty bleak!
@purplg8r - yay, girl! Hope to see you in the TWW soon!!!
@Augusta108 that sounds like me. haha I used to get to parties early and just help decorate. I like to visit people so I didn't mind. However, now with a 1 year old... I am hit or miss.
@pebbledam I have a random sore throat too right now but no other symptoms. I was sneezing a bit today but have been allergy tested and only found me slightly allergic to some weeds. wtf.
@vflux33 I feel you with the long cycles. It's why I got back on Metformin.... (sigh)
@supercoolstephy Ryan hates being late too but I swear he takes longer to get ready than me. You know me... I barely even wear make up. ha. Yea, it seems a bit early for you to be fertile IMO. I had the FF VIP once and I really enjoyed it but Natural Cycles was the only one to get my O correct last month.
@sunniegrly I have low temps too. Today was 97.02. Natural cycles tells me in the follicular cycle the average temp is 97.21 and in luteal it is 97.81 so I think you should be good.
Month/Cycle: 1/1
CD: 17
WAYDTGKU: BBT, OPK, PNV, CoQ-10, CM, green tea before O, HIO, Metformin
R/R: I am debating if I was to be "sick" on Friday and miss field day. No thanks. In exciting news... I had a positive OPK today!!!!! ANNDDDD EWCM!!! What the what?!? I hardly ever got EWCM... and it was a lot today. I don't know if the Metformin is helping with O or if the green tea really kicked my CM into gear but I am pleased and will take it. Anyhoo. I am pumped.
CS/Q: Since I had + OPK today will I probably see crosshairs soon? This usually means O in the next couple days, right? When would one start eating pineapple core?
GTKY: Are you usually early, late, or right on time? Back and forth. Usually early or on time. I hate being late.
Guys, I'm so effing bored. Eff it, I'm joining. I might not still be benched when I ovulate. And there are like 3 of us in the benched thread. Month/Cycle: What do I put here? We started TTC in July 2016, but then (TW) I MCed in Sept 2016, and we have been TTA since then. But ideally we'll start TTC again this cycle if I get the go ahead from my OBGYN (I have to get an ultrasound to look for fibroids on May 8).
CD: 2
WAYDTGKU: if we're allowed to... PNV, HIO, I bought some pre-seed a while back... so maybe that... do y'all use those weird AF applicators with it? Or just use it like regular lube?
R/R: I've been working out 4x/week for 4 months to get stronger, and I'm bbaarreellyy improving. I'm thin so I don't want to lose weight, so I can't use that metric. I just don't feel stronger. I do 1 spin, 1 HIIT boot camp style class, and 2 pilates classes each week. Like W. T. F. CS/Q: Maybe if I end up having fibroids? Doc doesn't feel any, just thinks they might be causing the ennddllesss spotting, but IDK. I don't think the symptoms fit. I don't have painful periods. I had 400 ultrasounds in Sept and no one saw anything. Spotting has been a thing for years.
GTKY: Are you usually early, late, or right on time? If I'm already where I need to be (ie, at work but need to go to a meeting), I'm early. If I need to travel, I'm late. Always late. DH is always early so this is an endless battle. One time we were late, and we really had it out about it, and DH goes, "I don't want to show up late because I don't want anyone to think I'm too stupid to figure out how to get somewhere on time!!!" and I was like, oh honey, do you think I'm too stupid to get somewhere on time? No no, child. I'm a combination of too easily distracted by my makeup routine and too inconsiderate. Don't get it twisted. lol
@sunniegrly not to add to any anxiety, but please be careful with the thyroid testing. My dad pushed hard to have this thyroid tested more thoroughly (and honestly probably they don't even do it this way anymore because it sounds nuts), so they did this weird radiation ink test. I doubt they're actually connected, but he connects it to his early onset Parkinson's. He had a lot of doctors tell him the blood tests are reliable, and if he wanted a second opinion to try taking his temperature for a month to see that way, but he pushed and IDK - they did this weird unnecessary test. Anyway, honestly he's probably bonkers, but just be careful. Like, more blood tests? Sure, why not. Weird radioactive ink tests? Maybe skip. Sorry, just couldn't not say something! This is when I know I'm becoming my mother!
R/R: completely shocked by a ton of EWCM for the past 2 days so I started taking OPKs (I don't usually O until CD 21-24, so this is way early) and HOLY MONKEY it was positive today. Guess we'll need to start sexy time!
CS/Q: nope
GTKY: Early. Always early. Hate being late with a passion, and I will call to tell people I'm running late and then still show up on time.
Me: 35 DH: 35
Married: 5-16-2009
Charlotte Elaine 5-27-2014 Anna Josephine 3-29-2016 Baby #3 EDD 3-3-2018
***lurking from TWW*** Hey @doxiemoxie212 ! I am in no way an exercise expert so take my advice with a grain of salt lol but its my understanding to build muscle, you should focus on strength training over cardio as well as up protein and calorie intake. Its good to have a little bit of fat to help build muscle as well. Do you lift weights? Thatll be a good way to track your strength. Maybe in addition to the classes you are taking, add in some sort of weight training a few times a week. Good luck with getting stronger!
Married: August 2014 TTC #1: February 2017 - BFP 7/28/17; EDD 4/8/18; DD born 4/7/18 TTC #2: February 2019
@garnetandgoldgrace Good news on the EWCM and positive OPK! Yeah, I think for most people this means you'll O in a day or 2. I only tried the pineapple core a couple times, but always waited until after I confirmed O.
@doxiemoxie212 Yes, party in WTO! (Yeah seriously not a lot going on in Benched--I think there are more people there then are posting so far this week, I guess they just don't feel like it). That story about your dad is really fucked up. I'm sorry he went through that. My FIL has Parkinsons, (I think we talked about that before?), and we think his might be in part a result of a psychiatric medication he was put on and we were never able to get to the bottom of that either.
For pre-seed, we tried it both with the applicators and just like regular lube. TBH MH hated it so much I have a brand new unopened one that's just going to be wasted. One of the many things we tried for a few months just in case it would give us that extra push we needed, but didn't do the trick for me. Based on Amazon reviews you'd think that stuff was magic--guess it works for a lot people. Hopefully it will do the trick for you!
@garnetandgoldgrace I'm not sure how FF gives you ch with no temping. But when I did pineapple, I ate it after my temp rose (I know. So helpful right?)
@doxiemoxie212 I use it with the applicators. Works better for me that way
@justkeepswimming8 yeah, the HIIT boot camp classes involve a lot of weights, but I don't necessarily mean stronger as in muscle, I just mean.... IDK? Not so easily out of breath? Able to carry groceries without wanting to die? Lol. Like, I'm making some gains in spin class, but they're soooo minor, and I just felt like I'd be improving more after four effing months. I think I'm just starting at such a low baseline, though, I just have to accept that and keep trying. I never did any sports at all growing up, and I've always been very thin with almost zero muscle. I have this theory that might be complete BS, but I feel like if you did sports/worked out a lot before you stopped growing, it's a lot easier to run/lift/whateveritisyouwanttodothatyousortofdidbefore as an adult. Le sigh.
@vflux33 yeah, might've been the thyroid test, might've been the fckton of weed he smoked every single day of his life because my understanding is that back in the 60s they just drenched the stuff in pesticides (pesticides are pretty strongly linked to Parkinson's, but like, in a poured-pesticides-yourself way, not in like a, shopped at a normal grocery store way), and he smoked (smokes?) so much. #artists
@purplg8r (and sort of @vflux33) what do you mean by "works better" for you? Like, as lube? I actually bought it because typically DH and I don't have sex that often, like once every two weeks, so TTC is like a ssttrruuggllee for me to get wet. Like, the first day is meh, the second day is a little better because my body is like ooo sex, but then after that my body is like, no, you're going to need to orgasm BEFORE we'll allow any lubrication, which is all fine and dandy except we have jobs and lives and like to sleep. (This is becoming TMI, but I'm in that mood, so oh well; feel free to skip.) So basically it became like, I'd read a chapter from a "romance novel," DH would literally fall asleep next to me, and then I'd slap him in the chest a few times to wake him up and be like, get hard my body is willing to participate now. I did not enjoy this process. I thought lube might be preferable. I thought regular lube is supposed to be a hinderance to TTC, whereas pre-seed is like, fine for sperm? Do you guys use it to increase odds of conception?
@purpleg8r Move it! Move it!!! Haha. Lunch was a nice
pick me up. Although they were crazy slow. Nothing like an accidental 2 hour
lunch to make the day move along.
@lulu1180 Blah. Sorry for the temp decrease. Never fun, even
when you’re expecting it.
@50Wife Sorry you were stuck inside, especially with
gorgeous weather. I always wish I was stuck inside on gloomy rainy days or
crazy hot days… when I don’t
want to be outside anyway. Never happens that way.
@Augusta108 That sounds like a really fun day at work.
@kiwi2628 that sounds like a nice break to relax and enjoy
getting freaky without feeling like a chore.
@JJMNO1616 I am a mess without my phone for a day. I keep
facebook open so I can message people. I realize I have an addiction to my
phone. Whoops.
@zamore_spin I O’d on CD15, but only had a
23 day cycle, well 22 technically because 23 would have been the day AF came to
visit. I got my Merina out 4/3 and AF was there 4/5 so you’re
two day rule makes sense. I normally start around the 7-10th-ish so
it was right around my normal go time. I figure the app is just not sure what
going on with me because last cycle was so short and sweet.
@sunniegrly my temp yesterday was 97.16 and then today it
was 97.46, and I’m CD7. Who knows.
@garnetandgoldgrace yeah, it’s the OVIA app. NC and FF
are both saying I’m in the fertile window around
CD12, last time I O’d on CD15. And now that I have my
new OPKs I’m ready to test, test, test. I have 50. Haha. I think I
might pay for the one month of NC now and see how I feel about a second month
with it. Oh and what I read was 1 day after O is when to eat pineapple core. I
warmed it on the stove, I read somewhere that it’s better to eat it warm
because your body uses it better warm or at room temp.
@purplg8r - I also think you should move over to TWW land if you get your CHs. @Augusta - That sounds like a pretty nifty work enrichment project. And snacks are always welcome! @Pinky917, @mispanda- Whenever I do arrive early, I ALWAYS creepily wait in my car until I feel it is appropriate to go in! @KariAnn323 - I'm so excited you got your temp spike! I know that slow rise is crazy making! @Dilynne - I'm glad you're feeling better today. @mschanandlerbong1214, @RVAmom315 - Yay for +OPK! @lulu1180 - I'm sorry to see you back here. *hugs* @icecubeinthedesert - I at least hope your throat feels better! There's no way I would be able to function without taking all of the antihistamines right now. Since I work nights, I'm basically at the end of my day when I got home at 0900. @labgrand2012 - I think sometimes the shock of what people say leads to us not knowing what to say in return, which is probably a good thing.... but ouch. Sorry you had to endure that. @Zamora_spin - Why is your mom and SF moving closer to you? @supercoolstephy - I'm trying so hard not to cave and buy the VIP, but I think if I don't get KTFU in the next two months, I might. @sunniegrly - I know others have already eased your anxiety on your temps, but I thought I would add that my cover line is usually around 97.3, so you're fine! But now I'm nervous about my thyroid.... @garnetandgoldgrace - I have been tested and tried to do immunotherapy,
but had an anaphylactic reaction. I'm allergic to a lot of outdoor things and
dust mites. Not sure what this allergist can do for me, but maybe I can get
better meds. Sorry your throat is sore! @doxiemoxie212 - Preseed is one of the few products that don't hurt sperm. And
for some women who don't get wet (like yourself), it can help the sperm travel.
I'm not a fan of it. It's sticky. Someone recommended a different brand awhile
back and I need to go look it up and give it a try.
Me: 29 | DH: 29
Married 12/2016 DSS born 01/2016 TTC since 01/2017 Letrozole + TI = BFP 01/30/2018 | EDD 10/11/2018
@doxiemoxie212 I use it just during FW because H doesn't get home til 2 am so we have to BD then and I'm not in the mood for any play before. And regular lube isn't good for sperm.
I love that this board doesn't just make me feel better about TTC stuff but regular life stuff, too. I always feel like such a weirdo when I get somewhere early and lurk in the car, but now I know I'm totally not alone!
@doxiemoxie212, we use Preseed and I'm a fan of it. I do use the applicators and it stopped feeling weird pretty quickly, though DH and I do still joke about my going into the bathroom "to prepare myself" before BD... I think applying it in front of him with those would definitely totally kill the mood!
@Augusta108 - You're totally right about the applicators "killing the mood," but it makes me mad. My brain says "My cervical mucas has the same consistency as egg whites = Better GDTPT" and MH can't even handle a little plastic applicator. Soemtimes I hate men.
Eta autocorrect.
Me: 29 | DH: 29
Married 12/2016 DSS born 01/2016 TTC since 01/2017 Letrozole + TI = BFP 01/30/2018 | EDD 10/11/2018
@pebbledam My mom and SF have been planning to move down to my state for probably 6 years. My SF is from the area where I live now and has always wanted to move back - they even bought a farm down here that has been sitting empty all these years. They've been waiting this whole time because the farm they own up north (where I grew up) wasn't selling. They finally have a buyer and it seems pretty certain it will go through.
doxiemoxie212 I have been doing a bootcamp style workout class for over a year now, but earlier this year I was where you are, why I am not stronger after working out for a year. I found that I was being too cautious in my workout class in terms of weights and doing modified exercises. So one day a week I will make it my push myself day. So I will start with heavier weights for every exercise and will not do any modified versions of body weight (like pushups on my knees). I know I will only complete a handful with the heavier weights and switch back down to my normal weights to finish out the set/time. But I found that is making me stronger and I am getting closer to completing the set with the heavier weights. I also told my instructor this and he will switch out my weights for me if he thinks I am using to light of ones
BFP #1 1/4/14 | Diagnosed with Trisomy 13 at 12 weeks 3/6/14 | MMC 3/21/14 | D&C 3/24/14
BFP #2 7/1/14 | DS born March 2015 BFP#3 5/22/17 | MC 6/17/17 at 7w3d
@doxiemoxie212Yeah my FIL also smoked a lot of weed with pesticides and did other drugs and has a lot of issues, but Parkinson's is also a listed side effect of this drug he was put on. Also he had dementia when he was put on it so there are consent issues. But we couldn't do anything about it in the end. Either way Parkinson's is super shitty and I'm sorry about your dad.
Yes to what others have said here re: pre seed. Supposedly pre seed has this special PH or something that helps sperm travel. Regular lube kills sperm and there is some info out there about saliva harming sperm too [shakes fist at universe]. If you don't have time to get in the mood to GDTPD and you gotta make it happen, it's worth a go. Definitely agree to use the applicators in private--they're not sexy. Some people swear by pre seed and we hated it but were willing to use it if it did the trick but after a few months gave it up because I have other issues. But the info on it helping a lot of people is pretty solid so not knocking it for whoever wants it!
Re: WTO Wed 5/3
@vflux33 @icecubeinthedesert Yes, I think the move is going to be good. I'm not sure I could handle my mom living down the street from me, but a couple hours is great, good for a weekend visit but also not close enough for surprise drop-ins. Also - on benadryl - antihistamines, including benadryl but also including Claritin and other day-time allergy meds allegedly reduce creation of CF
@lulu1180 Sorry about the temp drop
@KariAnn323 Fx for you!
@Dilynne Good for you! If you haven't seen these series they are very binge worthy: Westworld (HBO), Jessica Jones (Netflix), Golden Girls (yes, really, it's all on Hulu and I had totally forgotten or never realized how great that show is), House of Cards (Netflix, coming up for its next season soon), Orphan Black
@MissChanandlerBong622 Yay for the positive OPK! GL!
@supercoolstephy Last cycle was my first off of BC and I O'd on CD 17. I was counting from the day Mirena came out (as instructed by doctor) but realistically I think AF started two days after Mirena was out, which maybe meant I O'd on CD 15. In any case, I started to have fertile signs (EWCM, almost-positive OPKs) on CD 11 this month, and had positive OPKs yesterday (CD12) and today (CD13). All of this to say, your cycles may not be regular. Why is one app saying you are fertile? You can sometimes have patches of fertile CF without ovulating as well, and I've even heard you can turn positive OPKs without ovulating. The hard thing is realizing you can't confirm O until after the fact via temp rise.
@JJMNO1616 don't feel guilty, it's really frustrating when they leave for a work trip during FW. DH and I have a system where he brings up a possible work trip and I look at the calendar and let him know if it's ok to go or if he should either go later or earlier. Sometimes he gets to decide what dates to go so if he finds out early enough and talks to me we can find a way to make it work.
CD: 6 according to FF, 5 according to my fertility monitor ::shrugs::
WAYDTGKU: temp charting, monitoring CM, Clearblue fertility monitor, will start OPKs again in a few days, prayer.
R/R: Idk I just feel really blah and tired today. Too tired to rant or rave.
CS/Q: I'm beginning to wonder if there's something wrong with either me or my BBT thermometer. My temps last cycle (when I charted them) were erratic and the average was low (97.4), and so far my temps this cycle are REALLY low. Yesterday my temp was 97.1, which seems a bit crazy to me. Granted, I took NSAIDs while I was on AF because I'm having achilles tendonitis. Maybe that has something to do with it. Anyone else have really low temps?
GTKY: Are you usually early, late, or right on time? I'm usually obscenely early, DH is usually obscenely late. If I nag him enough we're usually just a touch late or maybe even on time.
Married: 2013
TTC #1: 2/2017
Dx: mild/borderline NIR PCOS
May TTGP Siggy Challenge - Awkward Prom Photos:
@Dilynne I'm glad you're feeling a bit better today! I've been binge watching the office. I also watched life in pieces fairly quickly...only one season is on Netflix though. It's pretty funny! I will warn you that it is following one couple with a newborn but I don't feel like it pushed any buttons. Just wanted to give you a heads up though.
@Sailing_Mama bm dress shopping and the whole will I/won't I is supper frustrating and a total mind F. Hoping you have an adorable little baby bump by then!!
@icecubeinthedesert has jokes!! I totally got a chuckle out of that one though
TTC #1 November 2016
50mg Clomid June 2017
BFP June, 21 2017 | EDD March 4, 2018
@kiwi2628 - Going on vacation and not monitoring anything sounds heavenly. DH and I are going on a 2 week vacation in June, and I'm still debating whether or not I want to lug pee sticks, pee cups, etc. with me. Would prob be useless anyways since we're going overseas and will have a 6 hour time change that I'm sure will screw with me. So I may be having a month like that in June. Yippee!
@BertieMeetsGertie - DH has a french press and loves it. You can get them pretty cheap, too.
@heatherdubrow - Congrats on losing a few pounds!!
@Cricket648 - Ugh I was just there with the long cycle/Provera. Hope you can get the Provera soon and be able to move on!
@mschanandlerbong1214 - Yay for positive OPK!!!
@Sailing_Mama - Sorry trying on the BM dress was messing with you. Hugs.
Will come back later and respond more. Must work now...
Married: 2013
TTC #1: 2/2017
Dx: mild/borderline NIR PCOS
May TTGP Siggy Challenge - Awkward Prom Photos:
@supercoolstephy Hope your cycles start to regulate soon! I have been off BC since January and my cycles are still changing a little month to month.
@vflux33 So glad to see you are off the bench but sorry about the long cycle. My H just had to say no lol there wasn't a ton of pressure for him to go... more his own pressure to be there. He doesn't like to say no to anyone... me included.
@mispanda @50Wife Thanks ladies, I appreciate the support.
@sunniegrly Just to add to the PPs responses your temps seem totally normal to me. My Pre O temps are always in the 97 range.
@JJMNO1616 That's good. Yes definitely good practice! FWIW I don't think you should feel bad either. MH and I had the travel talk too--but it is way different for mine it sounds like because he really hates traveling, all his coworkers love traveling, and usually travel means he gets kicked off his own projects to bail other people out of their mistakes, which infuriates him. I am not sure how I'd deal if he actually wanted to go like yours, TBH. Anyway, your FW won out and that is always a good thing.
@sunniegrly I am so happy to see you here! Yes, I have similar pre-O temps too. I hope your O comes swiftly and predictably!
Me: 30 | DH: 31
Met: August 2006
Married: July 2012
TTC #1 since June 2016
***TW***
BFP: 7/12/16 | MC: 9/12/16
BFP: 1/18/17 | MMC: 2/13/17
BFP: 10/7/17 | EDD: 6/21/17
MTHFR: homozygous A1298C
Side note: I was able to lose weight once I got off of the horrid medicine. But then I stopped dieting and started TTC and ate lots of french fries (which I hadn't had in like a year) and gained it all back. Nom nom nom fries.
Thank all of ya'll for the responses to my temp question! My anxiety on that is like 90% better now.
Married: 2013
TTC #1: 2/2017
Dx: mild/borderline NIR PCOS
May TTGP Siggy Challenge - Awkward Prom Photos:
Me: 30 | DH: 31
Met: August 2006
Married: July 2012
TTC #1 since June 2016
***TW***
BFP: 7/12/16 | MC: 9/12/16
BFP: 1/18/17 | MMC: 2/13/17
BFP: 10/7/17 | EDD: 6/21/17
MTHFR: homozygous A1298C
@purplg8r @keriann323 @RVAmom315 @BertieMeetsGertie @mschanandlerbong1214 @zamora_spin : Congrats on temp spikes / +OPKs. Rest up in the TWW, and good luck.
@Purplg8r 101 day wait to O is rough. Sorry you had to go through that.
@bertiemeetsgertie Jealous about the Kona coffee, so yummy. French press is easy.
@vflux33 Yeah for getting to HIO? But mostly sorry for the long cycle.
@labgrand2012 Good news about the HSG, but sorry you had that experience with the nurse.
@lulu1180 Sorry about CD1
@kiki2628 @cricket648 : Good luck at your appointments
@dilynne Good luck to your hubby for his interview. Unemployment can be so disheartening. I suspect it’s playing a part in your mood. Please do talk to your doctor.
Good luck at your appointments
Month/Cycle: 1/1CD: 3
WAYDTGKU: sporadic temping (due to poor sleep schedule), OPKs, CM, HIO
R/R: Tomorrow is the first day of 1 month of working on the labour, deliver floor & in the obstetrical ORs. I’m pretty thankful that this has landed at the beginning of this round of TTC. I can’t imagine how tough it would be to be a doc (or nurse) on these wards as TTC drags on (or worse, becomes IF). CS/Q: not yet
GTKY: Are you usually early, late, or right on time? Either 15 minutes early, or 10 minutes late. There seems to be no in between for me.
Married: 2013
TTC #1: 2/2017
Dx: mild/borderline NIR PCOS
May TTGP Siggy Challenge - Awkward Prom Photos:
@RVAmom315 hopefully you got a good one in!! Nothing happened because we had to go buy a box of condoms to use until the 24th since I have to avoid getting pregnant. Fun times!
@50Wife boo for being stuck behind the desk!
@augusta108 what book did you report on?
@kiwi2628 I hope the appt went well!
@pinky917 yay for family time!!
@BertieMeetsGertie I've never tried Kona coffee but I heard it's really good!
@KariAnn323 yay for a temp spike for you too!!
@Dilynne what kind of shows do you like?
@Cricket648 FX you get Provera!
@mispanda insurance stuff always confuses me
@mschanandlerbong1214 unfortunately we had to avoid this month medically but I just need a change to know I'm moving forward. And yay for a +OPK!
@heatherdubrow I love all the classes you take! What is yoga fusion?
@icecubeinthedesert hmm good question about the Benadryl! And sigh. I'll ask once I get over there and if anyone's offended, I'll just jump back over here. And I totally laughed at your joke!
@labgrand2012 ugh. Strep sucks!!
@Mythril being out of breath & wheezing is no good!!
@Sailing_Mama oh that is a rough reminder. What color are the dresses?
@zamora_spin FX H is up for it again tonight!
@pebbledam nice work on the steps!!
@JJMNO1616 forgetting your phone is the worst! Sadly, I always feel lost without mine!
@vflux33 so glad you're off the bench!!
@supercoolstephy hopefully lunch helped cheer you up!!
@Dilynne GL to YH on his interview! I'm glad to hear that you have plans to see your doctor. During a year that was particularly difficult for me, I got the advice to go out and try new things/have new fun experiences, and that actually helped me quite a bit.
@mschanandlerbong1214 Yay for the +OPK!
@heatherdubrow Congrats on your weight loss! That's awesome!
@icecubeinthedesert I'm not sure if Benadryl really does affect temps, but I have noticed that mine are often lower after I've taken it in the evening. I always just thought I must mouth breathe or something. Also, Your ovulation joke made me laugh. I can so relate!
@labgrand2012 Glad the your test went well! Sorry about the strep and that the nurse was insensitive. Some people don't think before they speak...
@Sailing_Mama I'm glad that you didn't have to get a size up. That would've been really rough.
@JJMNO1616 Leaving your phone at home is the worst feeling!!
@vflux33 I'm glad to see you're off the bench!
@sunniegrly My temps are just as erratic and low (lower, actually). I'm not sure if it's bad or not, but my pre-O temp is usually 96.5-7-97.2.
Married: 10/2013
TTC #1 Since: 02/2017
@Augusta108 that sounds like me. haha I used to get to parties early and just help decorate. I like to visit people so I didn't mind. However, now with a 1 year old... I am hit or miss.
@pebbledam I have a random sore throat too right now but no other symptoms. I was sneezing a bit today but have been allergy tested and only found me slightly allergic to some weeds. wtf.
@vflux33 I feel you with the long cycles. It's why I got back on Metformin.... (sigh)
@supercoolstephy Ryan hates being late too but I swear he takes longer to get ready than me. You know me... I barely even wear make up. ha. Yea, it seems a bit early for you to be fertile IMO. I had the FF VIP once and I really enjoyed it but Natural Cycles was the only one to get my O correct last month.
@sunniegrly I have low temps too. Today was 97.02. Natural cycles tells me in the follicular cycle the average temp is 97.21 and in luteal it is 97.81 so I think you should be good.
Month/Cycle: 1/1
CD: 17
WAYDTGKU: BBT, OPK, PNV, CoQ-10, CM, green tea before O, HIO, Metformin
R/R: I am debating if I was to be "sick" on Friday and miss field day. No thanks.
In exciting news... I had a positive OPK today!!!!! ANNDDDD EWCM!!! What the what?!? I hardly ever got EWCM... and it was a lot today. I don't know if the Metformin is helping with O or if the green tea really kicked my CM into gear but I am pleased and will take it. Anyhoo. I am pumped.
CS/Q: Since I had + OPK today will I probably see crosshairs soon? This usually means O in the next couple days, right? When would one start eating pineapple core?
GTKY: Are you usually early, late, or right on time? Back and forth. Usually early or on time. I hate being late.
DH: 30
TTC #2 Since April 2017
Month/Cycle: What do I put here? We started TTC in July 2016, but then (TW) I MCed in Sept 2016, and we have been TTA since then. But ideally we'll start TTC again this cycle if I get the go ahead from my OBGYN (I have to get an ultrasound to look for fibroids on May 8).
CD: 2
WAYDTGKU: if we're allowed to... PNV, HIO, I bought some pre-seed a while back... so maybe that... do y'all use those weird AF applicators with it? Or just use it like regular lube?
R/R: I've been working out 4x/week for 4 months to get stronger, and I'm bbaarreellyy improving. I'm thin so I don't want to lose weight, so I can't use that metric. I just don't feel stronger. I do 1 spin, 1 HIIT boot camp style class, and 2 pilates classes each week. Like W. T. F.
CS/Q: Maybe if I end up having fibroids? Doc doesn't feel any, just thinks they might be causing the ennddllesss spotting, but IDK. I don't think the symptoms fit. I don't have painful periods. I had 400 ultrasounds in Sept and no one saw anything. Spotting has been a thing for years.
GTKY: Are you usually early, late, or right on time? If I'm already where I need to be (ie, at work but need to go to a meeting), I'm early. If I need to travel, I'm late. Always late. DH is always early so this is an endless battle. One time we were late, and we really had it out about it, and DH goes, "I don't want to show up late because I don't want anyone to think I'm too stupid to figure out how to get somewhere on time!!!" and I was like, oh honey, do you think I'm too stupid to get somewhere on time? No no, child. I'm a combination of too easily distracted by my makeup routine and too inconsiderate. Don't get it twisted. lol
@sunniegrly not to add to any anxiety, but please be careful with the thyroid testing. My dad pushed hard to have this thyroid tested more thoroughly (and honestly probably they don't even do it this way anymore because it sounds nuts), so they did this weird radiation ink test. I doubt they're actually connected, but he connects it to his early onset Parkinson's. He had a lot of doctors tell him the blood tests are reliable, and if he wanted a second opinion to try taking his temperature for a month to see that way, but he pushed and IDK - they did this weird unnecessary test. Anyway, honestly he's probably bonkers, but just be careful. Like, more blood tests? Sure, why not. Weird radioactive ink tests? Maybe skip. Sorry, just couldn't not say something! This is when I know I'm becoming my mother!
CD: 14
WAYDTGKU: temping, OPKs, PNVs
R/R: completely shocked by a ton of EWCM for the past 2 days so I started taking OPKs (I don't usually O until CD 21-24, so this is way early) and HOLY MONKEY it was positive today. Guess we'll need to start sexy time!
CS/Q: nope
GTKY: Early. Always early. Hate being late with a passion, and I will call to tell people I'm running late and then still show up on time.
Anna Josephine 3-29-2016
Baby #3 EDD 3-3-2018
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Hey @doxiemoxie212 ! I am in no way an exercise expert so take my advice with a grain of salt lol but its my understanding to build muscle, you should focus on strength training over cardio as well as up protein and calorie intake. Its good to have a little bit of fat to help build muscle as well. Do you lift weights? Thatll be a good way to track your strength. Maybe in addition to the classes you are taking, add in some sort of weight training a few times a week. Good luck with getting stronger!
Married: August 2014
TTC #1: February 2017 - BFP 7/28/17; EDD 4/8/18; DD born 4/7/18
TTC #2: February 2019
@doxiemoxie212 Yes, party in WTO! (Yeah seriously not a lot going on in Benched--I think there are more people there then are posting so far this week, I guess they just don't feel like it). That story about your dad is really fucked up. I'm sorry he went through that. My FIL has Parkinsons, (I think we talked about that before?), and we think his might be in part a result of a psychiatric medication he was put on and we were never able to get to the bottom of that either.
For pre-seed, we tried it both with the applicators and just like regular lube. TBH MH hated it so much I have a brand new unopened one that's just going to be wasted. One of the many things we tried for a few months just in case it would give us that extra push we needed, but didn't do the trick for me. Based on Amazon reviews you'd think that stuff was magic--guess it works for a lot people. Hopefully it will do the trick for you!
@purplgr8 it's delicious!! Right now, I'm drinking coconut lava.
Dating since: 11/17/2001
Married: 9/26/2009
TTC: June 2016
EDD: 5/14/2018
@Augusta108 that sounds like a rough read
@Sailing_Mama sounds pretty!
@garnetandgoldgrace I'm not sure how FF gives you ch with no temping. But when I did pineapple, I ate it after my temp rose (I know. So helpful right?)
@doxiemoxie212 I use it with the applicators. Works better for me that way
@georgiagirl3050 yay for ewcm!
DH: 30
TTC #2 Since April 2017
@vflux33 yeah, might've been the thyroid test, might've been the fckton of weed he smoked every single day of his life because my understanding is that back in the 60s they just drenched the stuff in pesticides (pesticides are pretty strongly linked to Parkinson's, but like, in a poured-pesticides-yourself way, not in like a, shopped at a normal grocery store way), and he smoked (smokes?) so much. #artists
@purplg8r (and sort of @vflux33) what do you mean by "works better" for you? Like, as lube? I actually bought it because typically DH and I don't have sex that often, like once every two weeks, so TTC is like a ssttrruuggllee for me to get wet. Like, the first day is meh, the second day is a little better because my body is like ooo sex, but then after that my body is like, no, you're going to need to orgasm BEFORE we'll allow any lubrication, which is all fine and dandy except we have jobs and lives and like to sleep. (This is becoming TMI, but I'm in that mood, so oh well; feel free to skip.) So basically it became like, I'd read a chapter from a "romance novel," DH would literally fall asleep next to me, and then I'd slap him in the chest a few times to wake him up and be like, get hard my body is willing to participate now. I did not enjoy this process. I thought lube might be preferable. I thought regular lube is supposed to be a hinderance to TTC, whereas pre-seed is like, fine for sperm? Do you guys use it to increase odds of conception?
@purpleg8r Move it! Move it!!!
Haha. Lunch was a nice
pick me up. Although they were crazy slow. Nothing like an accidental 2 hour
lunch to make the day move along.
@lulu1180 Blah. Sorry for the temp decrease. Never fun, even when you’re expecting it.
@RVAmom315. Bahaha pun intended.
@50Wife Sorry you were stuck inside, especially with gorgeous weather. I always wish I was stuck inside on gloomy rainy days or crazy hot days… when I don’t want to be outside anyway. Never happens that way.
@Augusta108 That sounds like a really fun day at work.
@kiwi2628 that sounds like a nice break to relax and enjoy getting freaky without feeling like a chore.
@BertieMeetsGertie woot woot! TWW!!!
@Pinky917 VA is so nice. I spent a week there once and really enjoyed my time.
@KariAnn323 YAY for a temp spike!!!
@Dilynne FX for your husbands interview.
@crickets648 This week has felt like FOR.EV.ER. I spent a good portion of my day thinking it was Friday. It is not. Ugh.
@mschanandlerbong1214 Yay for a positive OPK. I love that you texted DH that.
@Mythril I find my asthma picks up when the weather changes.
@Sailing_Mama That is a total Mind F*ck. Total!
@JJMNO1616 I am a mess without my phone for a day. I keep facebook open so I can message people. I realize I have an addiction to my phone. Whoops.
@zamore_spin I O’d on CD15, but only had a 23 day cycle, well 22 technically because 23 would have been the day AF came to visit. I got my Merina out 4/3 and AF was there 4/5 so you’re two day rule makes sense. I normally start around the 7-10th-ish so it was right around my normal go time. I figure the app is just not sure what going on with me because last cycle was so short and sweet.
@sunniegrly my temp yesterday was 97.16 and then today it was 97.46, and I’m CD7. Who knows.
@garnetandgoldgrace yeah, it’s the OVIA app. NC and FF are both saying I’m in the fertile window around CD12, last time I O’d on CD15. And now that I have my new OPKs I’m ready to test, test, test. I have 50. Haha. I think I might pay for the one month of NC now and see how I feel about a second month with it. Oh and what I read was 1 day after O is when to eat pineapple core. I warmed it on the stove, I read somewhere that it’s better to eat it warm because your body uses it better warm or at room temp.
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@purplg8r - I also think you should move over to TWW land if you get your CHs.
@Augusta - That sounds like a pretty nifty work enrichment project. And snacks are always welcome!
@Pinky917, @mispanda- Whenever I do arrive early, I ALWAYS creepily wait in my car until I feel it is appropriate to go in!
@KariAnn323 - I'm so excited you got your temp spike! I know that slow rise is crazy making!
@Dilynne - I'm glad you're feeling better today.
@mschanandlerbong1214, @RVAmom315 - Yay for +OPK!
@lulu1180 - I'm sorry to see you back here. *hugs*
@icecubeinthedesert - I at least hope your throat feels better! There's no way I would be able to function without taking all of the antihistamines right now. Since I work nights, I'm basically at the end of my day when I got home at 0900.
@labgrand2012 - I think sometimes the shock of what people say leads to us not knowing what to say in return, which is probably a good thing.... but ouch. Sorry you had to endure that.
@Zamora_spin - Why is your mom and SF moving closer to you?
@supercoolstephy - I'm trying so hard not to cave and buy the VIP, but I think if I don't get KTFU in the next two months, I might.
@sunniegrly - I know others have already eased your anxiety on your temps, but I thought I would add that my cover line is usually around 97.3, so you're fine! But now I'm nervous about my thyroid....
@garnetandgoldgrace - I have been tested and tried to do immunotherapy, but had an anaphylactic reaction. I'm allergic to a lot of outdoor things and dust mites. Not sure what this allergist can do for me, but maybe I can get better meds. Sorry your throat is sore!
@doxiemoxie212 - Preseed is one of the few products that don't hurt sperm. And for some women who don't get wet (like yourself), it can help the sperm travel. I'm not a fan of it. It's sticky. Someone recommended a different brand awhile back and I need to go look it up and give it a try.
DSS born 01/2016
TTC since 01/2017
Letrozole + TI = BFP 01/30/2018 | EDD 10/11/2018
@garnetandgoldgrace then I'd eat it after you get a big temp spike.
@doxiemoxie212, we use Preseed and I'm a fan of it. I do use the applicators and it stopped feeling weird pretty quickly, though DH and I do still joke about my going into the bathroom "to prepare myself" before BD... I think applying it in front of him with those would definitely totally kill the mood!
Eta autocorrect.
DSS born 01/2016
TTC since 01/2017
Letrozole + TI = BFP 01/30/2018 | EDD 10/11/2018
BFP#3 5/22/17 | MC 6/17/17 at 7w3d
Yes to what others have said here re: pre seed. Supposedly pre seed has this special PH or something that helps sperm travel. Regular lube kills sperm and there is some info out there about saliva harming sperm too [shakes fist at universe]. If you don't have time to get in the mood to GDTPD and you gotta make it happen, it's worth a go. Definitely agree to use the applicators in private--they're not sexy. Some people swear by pre seed and we hated it but were willing to use it if it did the trick but after a few months gave it up because I have other issues. But the info on it helping a lot of people is pretty solid so not knocking it for whoever wants it!