I don't really want much new baby stuff. It's gonna get pooped on, puked on, etc. LO has 12 nieces and nephews. As long as it's in good shape, give me all the hand-me-downs. We can put money in a college fund.
It's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most...not where you live, or what you drive, or the price tag on your clothes... There's no dollar sign on a piece of mind, this I've come to know! *ZBB*
@NYTino24 I am 100% with you. I saw on Facebook yesterday that a family friend of DH is having a garage sale to sell all their old baby stuff and I kind of want to tell them we're KU to get first dibs.
@NYTino24 so true. My colleague is about 25 weeks now and she just messaged me saying that she bought so much stuff and will give it all to me, and that knowing she has someone to pass it on to is the only way she feels OK about it. I was like, yeah! Bring it on!
Except clothing...identical twins will have a large number of matching/coordinated outfits. I can't not!
@NYTino24 I feel you. This is my second go, but we had way too much stuff for #1. Why did I need so many sleeping places when he was an infant? Just pick one and go with it. I had a RNP, a bassinet, a travel bassinet, and the PNP. This doesn't even include the Mamaroo (which he used for maybe one hour total his entire life) and the portable swing (again, maybe one hour his entire life). What a waste of money.
I guess mine is I do want new stuff! There are some hand me downs I'd definitely love, a friend is giving me some clothes since her first baby was born in October as well as one of those flower bath things. Other things (stroller, car seat, etc) I want new because we are planning on four children and I'd just prefer knowing I started with what was most up to date when #1 was born. We'll of course replace as necessary based on safety and all that but hoping we buy most new stuff for this baby and reuse it all for babies to come.
I do want new things for this kid...not so much gear, since I already have everything I think we'll need, but clothes! We have some clothes that DD used, of course, but we used mostly hand-me-downs for her because we couldn't afford a lot of new clothes. Some of those clothes are starting to get a little worn and/or stained, and honestly, there are a lot that I just don't like! It probably shouldn't matter that my baby looks cute all the time, but one of the joys of babies is that I can dress them however I want :P
ETA: And if we have a boy this time, I know it will be hard not to go nuts buying cute little boy clothes!
Nov 17 BMB May Siggy Challenge: Mother's Day Fails
Always get a new car seat unless you know for a fact that it wasn't in an accident. In that case, only from family and close friends. We have given our infant car seat away to SIL who's due in August but she very much knows we haven't been in a wreck.
My UO on the baby clothes topic is that I don't like matching outfits for twins, but I'm sure family and friends will end up giving us matching stuff. I'll just have them wear it on alternate days!
I'm glad we have majority of the stuff we bought (new) for DS still, and am happy there are only a couple of things that have since come out (like the dock a tot) to buy. I can't wait to find out the sex because if it's a girl I get to purge ALL - well, most - of DS's clothes and make a little money selling them to then buy all the gorgeous girly clothes!
April Siggy Challenge: April Showers
About me:
29 y/o Married 6.26.11 BFP 12.23.13, EDD 9.2.14 - baby girl, born too soon at 22w6d due to a placental abruption on 5.5.14 BFP 8.4.14, EDD 4.15.15 - rainbow son, born at 30w4d due to a placental abruption on 2.8.15, healthy 3 y/o now! BFP 2.28.17, EDD 11.8.17 - baby girl, miscarried at 11 weeks on 4.21.17 BFP 11.28.17, EDD 8.8.18, delivering in July - another rainbow baby boy!
I'm getting new stuff since I sold all of my old stuff when my ex told me there was no chance we were having more kids. I still have a crib, but that's about it. However, this being my second time and SO's third, we know what we won't need. I don't even think I'm getting a big, fancy stroller. I already bought a Mei Tai and I still have an umbrella stroller for when LO gets a bit bigger.
I guess my UO is that I think the Easter bunny is creepy and we don't pretend it's real. He knows I make his Easter basket. I also think Peeps are the worst things ever created.
I didn't realize this was a UO until I started planning mine (and lurked on Dec BMB hehe), but I think gender reveal parties are cute and fun for the first baby and I can't wait for ours. I want to have a BaBy-Q and really ham it up with guests wearing pink or blue bows to guess, some games, a cake to reveal, and just spending the rest of the time eating and having fun on a summer afternoon. I've already found our invitation!
I think it's super tacky to ask for gifts at a reveal though. That's what a shower is for, don't be gift-grabby.
@DuchessOfCambridge I had to run over and check out Dec BMB and I'm a little surprised by that sentiment too. I don't think we will do anything more than dinner and cut a gender reveal cake for our parents and siblings, but I have no issue with anyone who wants to have a party. I know it's hard and I'm certain not perfect about this, but I try to go by the "live and let live" motto.....as long as you are not hurting anyone, you do you! I've never heard of gifts at a gender reveal though.
It's funny how different BMBs stances on topics are. In my last one, you were SHAMED if you tried to participate in HDBD before 13ish weeks because obviously that's bloat, not the baby, and yuck that's disgusting. I don't know why people care so much what others are doing. Like, you want to show off some chub/bloat...fine by me. Gender reveals are NMS at all, but I could care less who does them. Maybe it's the hormones, but I feel like I've been encountering a lot of people lately who think their opinion is the only one. Irks me to high heaven.
If you're up for a laugh about someone explaining Easter and the Easter Bunny with limited vocabulary, listen to David Sedaris' Jesus Shaves https://youtu.be/8n5CkoRx_CI
@MissMonroe11 agreed. I think it's fair to find gender reveals are corny because they definitely can be, but if people like it then whatever! Some of the sample invites I looked at had registry info on them and I thought that was dumb. If you're having a reveal at your shower then fine, have gifts, but if you're having both then don't do it!
@MississippiCatfish I'm really glad we don't have the kind of BMB where people say "your bloat is gross" on HDBD but rather "you look so cute!".
I also think the Easter Bunny is creepy but I never grew up celebrating it. I still get really upset seeing pictures of terrified children screaming their heads off with the Easter Bunny. I know I'm not supposed to judge parenting, I just don't get the appeal of scaring your kid like that for the sake of a picture. I'm also very pro if my kids say no about going near that person/them being hugged/touched, then that's what goes. Their bodies, they get to decide.
Ha ha ... I also hate those huge dressed up Easter Bunnies but guess who loves them.....my boys ?!?!?!? I have no idea why? We went to a mall on the weekend because DH needed to get his hair cut( he likes the barber there). Well we walk in and right in front of us is this creepy huge Easter Bunny that you can get your picture with. Just as I'm about to say "no way" I look down and they are both smiling ear to ear and jumping up and down. So... they got their picture with the Easter Bunny! And it's actually a really cute picture of them because they both look thrilled. Kids are funny. I would have hated that as a kid but my kids love it. I figure next year my oldest (5 now) won't be interested so may as well let them.
I used to think gender reveal parties were silly, and now I'm considering having one! I guess I just thought to myself, if I were invited to a gender reveal party, I would be excited and enjoy myself. I certainly will not want gifts, though.
@MississippiCatfish My last BMB had a whole debate about HDBD before 2nd tri as well...people got pretty snarky about it. I'm relieved that this BMB is so nice and accepting toward everyone. I'm not against the snark, it can be pretty funny sometimes, but it's nice to know I won't get flamed by 50 people over something small.
Nov 17 BMB May Siggy Challenge: Mother's Day Fails
Before joining this BMB I had read things here and there (what to expect) about how people on the bump were not nice. Decided to give it a try anyway because honestly...this app is way better than WTE! And so glad I did because you've all been awesome.
@bklynchica there used to be waaaay more meanness/snark on TB awhile back, but they came out with new rules and it's been way tamer since then.
On my original BMB women got flamed like crazy if they dared to refer to the "gender" of their baby (the argument is that gender is a social construct so you won't actually know what "gender" your baby is... your male baby might ultimately identify as female, etc.). It drove me nuts because most websites, books, and even medical professionals refer to it as gender. I never had a single doctor or ultrasound tech refer to my baby's "sex" (it was always referred to as "gender"), so why flame the heck out of someone for using the term that doctors use?
Women also got mocked for saying they had a bump before 12 weeks because omg have you seen this diagram that shows your uterus is still behind your pelvis until 12 weeks?? *insert all the eye roll emojis here* If someone has a round belly that looks like a baby bump, who cares if it is actually the baby or not? We all know that a blueberry isn't making the bump that big by itself but it's still a bump. Let people be excited about looking pregnant if they want to!
@TallMomma29 I had a lot of opinions about that but I decided they might get me in trouble.
I get irrationally angry when I see ads of people eating food and they close their eyes and half smile and are like "MMMM!!!!". You're being corny AF and weirding me out, stop it.
I guess my UO then is that I do think the HDBD pictures before 12 weeks are silly, especially for FTMs. It's just bloat, constipation, and/or a food baby. Something the size of a blueberry isn't the cause of that "bump". It's scientifically inaccurate, which bothers me. My logic is that if I wouldn't post a picture of my muffin top and chub after a big meal before a BFP, why do it now? I have rolled my eyes a bit at that thread. I'd never flame anyone for it though. That thread is not for me, so I just don't open it or post there yet. Others can do what they want - it doesn't affect me.
I had one that came up yesterday that I was specifically saving for today... but I didn't write it down so my pregnant brain ate it and won't give it back...
~Ziggy
Me:27 (diagnosed anovulatory May 2016) DH:29 (normal) Met 2008 | Dated 2010 | Married 2012 TTC#1 since June 2015 June 2016- 50mg generic clomid CDs 5-9 w/TI | 2 follies (14 & 12), thin (2.45) lining | BFN July 2016- 1mg estradiol CDs 1-7, 50mg generic clomid CDs 5-9 w/TI | 2 follies (14 & 10), thin (~4) lining | BFN August 2016- 1mg estradiol CDs 1-7, 50mg generic clomid CDs 5-9 w/TI | BFN | Referred to specialist, visited once, was told we have less than a 3% chance even on medication, recommended to IUI for up to a 50% chance, decided not to pursue at this time | Stopped "trying" October 2016- We became licensed foster parents November 9, 2016- Arrival of DD#1, 4yo March 1, 2017- 1 day late, feel like crap (low fever & exhausted) | Mom suggested test before taking meds, I laughed but did it anyway | BFP! *shock*
I think gender reveal parties are cute! We haven't had a "party" per se for any of our gender reveals. But for DS3 we had a little celebration during our Easter dinner with our family last year! And filled plastic eggs with jelly beans that explained the gender in a cute way. Not sure how or when we'll announce the gender this time around!
I havent shown off my blump yet, but I think it's totally fine for others to! You do you!
My UO is that I think buying extra baby gadgets is unnecessary. I don't plan on buying a fetal doppler, or a monitor with a video camera, or a bottle sterilizer, or a corny diaper bag. I just think there are a lot of unnecessary items forced onto parents (especilly FTM's).
I was worried you guys would be mean, pretentious moms that had nothing better to do than judge other moms. OMG I am soooooo glad that isn't the case. I like you guys and I'm sure their will be bumps (pun intended) along the way, as there always are, but I'm glad you guys are normal. It's nice knowing we may not all agree about the same things, but aren't automatically mean about it.
I also never knew there was a "thing" with bumps before 12 weeks. I know I'm wayyyy bloated, but I'm sure not trying to post a picture of it. My ex's fiancé started taking pictures at 6 weeks. I honestly thought that was too early, but it was whatever. Lol
I 100% would not be here if you ladies weren't so friendly and nice. I'm not the type to be snarky, and I definitely don't need that kind of negativity in my life. I'm so happy that I've seen basically none of that here (except for in a few well-deserved cases).
As for bump pics in the first trimester, I think everyone knows that it's not a real bump, but I still love checking out everyone's pics It's fun and silly, and I can't imagine why anyone would get pissy enough to be rude over it. Like @RiverSong15 said, if you don't like it, then don't open the thread. I can't wait to have a picture to post, but for me I know mine's all my pudgy tummy, so I haven't shared yet
TW
Me: 33 DH: 32 Started Dating: 2003 Married: 2013 Started TTC August 2016 BFP: 2/1/17 MC: 2/8/17 BFP: 3/8/17 MMC: 5/1/17 BFP: 7/23/17 EDD: 4/5/18 BFP: 2/27/20
I haven't posted in HDBD yet and won't until I have an actual bump. But the way I look at it is this...the pregnant-looking tummy IS being caused by pregnancy (usually), even if it's not the baby you're "seeing" when you see the belly. And it's exciting to look pregnant when you are pregnant, especially for FTMs.
@TallMomma29 Oh my gosh, the gender thing. Some people would get seriously nuts about it. I mean, I understand the reasoning, but is that word seriously the most offensive thing they can think of?
Nov 17 BMB May Siggy Challenge: Mother's Day Fails
@cmessamore Totally agree on the baby gadgets. We repurposed a laptop bag for a diaper bag, got an audio only monitor (mostly b/c sound doesn't travel well to all parts of my 2 story house), used a dishwasher for cleaning, and bought a bunch of necessary items second hand or during Black Friday. I do splurge too much on books for DD, but we're a family of nerds
I'm one of those people vaguely irked by the term "gender reveal" but nobody wants to have a "sex reveal party!" That just sounds like you're inviting someone to an orgy lol
It's a weird issues because percentage-wise, the vast majority of our children are going to identify with the gender associated with their anatomy. I don't think it makes us bad parents for assuming our child with male anatomy will identify as a male as an adult. That doesn't mean we won't accept him if he doesn't. And it doesn't mean we're going to force feed him gender stereotypes.
But like I said, "gender reveal" just slightly.. irks me. I'm all for parties though. We're having a "little brother or sister?!" party, which I feel sort of kind of side steps the issue??
@DuchessOfCambridge we had a gender reveal party with our first and it was adorably cheesy. It was a "tutus or bow ties" theme, and I made pins of little onesies that matched that, and we gave everyone confetti poppers that they popped on the count of 3 and then they all flipped out. It was so sweet. We did get I think 2 gifts but definitely didn't ask for them because I agree that's tacky! With DS I just posted a photo to Facebook of a tiny pumpkin painted blue. This time I'd like to do something cute with our family if I know by the time we go on our cruise at the end of the month. Maybe just Easter eggs wth pink or blue jelly beans, not sure.
@alparodi DS has an insane amount of books. By his first Christmas he had 300... Yes I had a spreadsheet to keep track haha. He's since gotten more. It's an addiction. He loves them though!
April Siggy Challenge: April Showers
About me:
29 y/o Married 6.26.11 BFP 12.23.13, EDD 9.2.14 - baby girl, born too soon at 22w6d due to a placental abruption on 5.5.14 BFP 8.4.14, EDD 4.15.15 - rainbow son, born at 30w4d due to a placental abruption on 2.8.15, healthy 3 y/o now! BFP 2.28.17, EDD 11.8.17 - baby girl, miscarried at 11 weeks on 4.21.17 BFP 11.28.17, EDD 8.8.18, delivering in July - another rainbow baby boy!
I had one that came up yesterday that I was specifically saving for today... but I didn't write it down so my pregnant brain ate it and won't give it back...
I have a confession for tomorrow. Hoping I don't forget!
@elsieisamoocow that sounds really cute! I don't know if we'll do it with subsequent children but definitely with the first I'm going all out
@ArtificialRed I get from a political correctness sense why gender reveal isn't right but an unborn baby doesn't identify with any gender and won't for quite some time, and like you said it's not wrong for parents to assume their children will identify with the gender associated with their sexes. And yeah - no one wants a sex party for a baby haha. There are invitations for it but that's not my kind of humor. Little brother/sister party could definitely work for someone having a 2nd+ kid!
We have more than a dozen bookshelves around the house of various sizes- some quite a bit taller than me. Some shelves have paperbacks 2 deep. I assume we have between 1000-2000 books, but I've never counted!
My guess is that DD has around 100 books, many hand-me-downs from cousins! We go "shopping" from the cousins when we visit (about 10 years age difference, so they don't mind giving up the books)
DD's closet is oddly deep, so we have 2 bookshelves in there plus a small shelf downstairs.
@elsieisamoocow Holy smokes! DD's first words were mama and dada, but her third was book, so yeah, she's very into her collection
@DuchessOfCambridge I love gender reveals. I really want to do one but we will actually know the gender when we tell our family we are expecting (thank you cell free test). So I'm not sure how to accomplish it and we don't live near family.
Gender reveal topic: I didn't have one with DS or DD. Just boxed up a blue or pink paci and gave to search set of grandparents for them to open. Considering one this time, because it will be a "tie breaker" and I'm planning on the last babe!
I had an UO, but I have since forgotten it. Darn it, what was I going to say?!?!?
Re: UO Thursday 4/13
TTC 9/2016 BFP 12/9/16 EDD 8/21/17 NMC 1/8/16 at 7w6d
TTC 2/2017 BFP 3/6/17 EDD 11/17/17 DS born 11/25/17 via ECS
TTC 12/2018 BFP 6/2/19 EDD 2/12/20 NMC / BO at 7 weeks, low progesterone
TTC 7/2019 BFP 8/21/19 EDD 4/22/20 CP at 5 weeks
TTC 8/19 IUI #1 w/ Clomid + Ovidrel + progesterone BFN, IUI 2 and 3 w/ Letrozole + Ovidrel + progesterone,
IUI 4 Follistim + Ovidrel + progesterone BFP 1/9/20 EDD 9/18/20
AMA, ITP in pregnancy, vWD type II - low Factor VIII, unexplained RPL and secondary infertility
Except clothing...identical twins will have a large number of matching/coordinated outfits. I can't not!
ETA: And if we have a boy this time, I know it will be hard not to go nuts buying cute little boy clothes!
About me:
Married 6.26.11
BFP 12.23.13, EDD 9.2.14 - baby girl, born too soon at 22w6d due to a placental abruption on 5.5.14
BFP 8.4.14, EDD 4.15.15 - rainbow son, born at 30w4d due to a placental abruption on 2.8.15, healthy 3 y/o now!
BFP 2.28.17, EDD 11.8.17 - baby girl, miscarried at 11 weeks on 4.21.17
BFP 11.28.17, EDD 8.8.18, delivering in July - another rainbow baby boy!
I'm getting new stuff since I sold all of my old stuff when my ex told me there was no chance we were having more kids. I still have a crib, but that's about it. However, this being my second time and SO's third, we know what we won't need. I don't even think I'm getting a big, fancy stroller. I already bought a Mei Tai and I still have an umbrella stroller for when LO gets a bit bigger.
I guess my UO is that I think the Easter bunny is creepy and we don't pretend it's real. He knows I make his Easter basket. I also think Peeps are the worst things ever created.
DS1 is 7. DD is 1. DS2 is coming in late April.
I think it's super tacky to ask for gifts at a reveal though. That's what a shower is for, don't be gift-grabby.
If you're up for a laugh about someone explaining Easter and the Easter Bunny with limited vocabulary, listen to David Sedaris' Jesus Shaves
@MississippiCatfish I'm really glad we don't have the kind of BMB where people say "your bloat is gross" on HDBD but rather "you look so cute!".
I also think the Easter Bunny is creepy but I never grew up celebrating it. I still get really upset seeing pictures of terrified children screaming their heads off with the Easter Bunny. I know I'm not supposed to judge parenting, I just don't get the appeal of scaring your kid like that for the sake of a picture. I'm also very pro if my kids say no about going near that person/them being hugged/touched, then that's what goes. Their bodies, they get to decide.
@MississippiCatfish My last BMB had a whole debate about HDBD before 2nd tri as well...people got pretty snarky about it. I'm relieved that this BMB is so nice and accepting toward everyone. I'm not against the snark, it can be pretty funny sometimes, but it's nice to know I won't get flamed by 50 people over something small.
@emucoleman agreed, I would enjoy being invited to a gender reveal! Sometimes snark is deserved but not when it's about other womens bodies, IMO.
On my original BMB women got flamed like crazy if they dared to refer to the "gender" of their baby (the argument is that gender is a social construct so you won't actually know what "gender" your baby is... your male baby might ultimately identify as female, etc.). It drove me nuts because most websites, books, and even medical professionals refer to it as gender. I never had a single doctor or ultrasound tech refer to my baby's "sex" (it was always referred to as "gender"), so why flame the heck out of someone for using the term that doctors use?
Women also got mocked for saying they had a bump before 12 weeks because omg have you seen this diagram that shows your uterus is still behind your pelvis until 12 weeks?? *insert all the eye roll emojis here* If someone has a round belly that looks like a baby bump, who cares if it is actually the baby or not? We all know that a blueberry isn't making the bump that big by itself but it's still a bump. Let people be excited about looking pregnant if they want to!
I get irrationally angry when I see ads of people eating food and they close their eyes and half smile and are like "MMMM!!!!". You're being corny AF and weirding me out, stop it.
Met 2008 | Dated 2010 | Married 2012
TTC#1 since June 2015
June 2016- 50mg generic clomid CDs 5-9 w/TI | 2 follies (14 & 12), thin (2.45) lining | BFN
July 2016- 1mg estradiol CDs 1-7, 50mg generic clomid CDs 5-9 w/TI | 2 follies (14 & 10), thin (~4) lining | BFN
August 2016- 1mg estradiol CDs 1-7, 50mg generic clomid CDs 5-9 w/TI | BFN | Referred to specialist, visited once, was told we have less than a 3% chance even on medication, recommended to IUI for up to a 50% chance, decided not to pursue at this time | Stopped "trying"
October 2016- We became licensed foster parents
November 9, 2016- Arrival of DD#1, 4yo
March 1, 2017- 1 day late, feel like crap (low fever & exhausted) | Mom suggested test before taking meds, I laughed but did it anyway | BFP! *shock*
I havent shown off my blump yet, but I think it's totally fine for others to! You do you!
My UO is that I think buying extra baby gadgets is unnecessary. I don't plan on buying a fetal doppler, or a monitor with a video camera, or a bottle sterilizer, or a corny diaper bag. I just think there are a lot of unnecessary items forced onto parents (especilly FTM's).
I was worried you guys would be mean, pretentious moms that had nothing better to do than judge other moms. OMG I am soooooo glad that isn't the case. I like you guys and I'm sure their will be bumps (pun intended) along the way, as there always are, but I'm glad you guys are normal. It's nice knowing we may not all agree about the same things, but aren't automatically mean about it.
I also never knew there was a "thing" with bumps before 12 weeks. I know I'm wayyyy bloated, but I'm sure not trying to post a picture of it. My ex's fiancé started taking pictures at 6 weeks. I honestly thought that was too early, but it was whatever. Lol
DS1 is 7. DD is 1. DS2 is coming in late April.
As for bump pics in the first trimester, I think everyone knows that it's not a real bump, but I still love checking out everyone's pics
Started Dating: 2003 Married: 2013
Started TTC August 2016
BFP: 2/1/17 MC: 2/8/17
BFP: 3/8/17 MMC: 5/1/17
BFP: 7/23/17 EDD: 4/5/18
BFP: 2/27/20
@TallMomma29 Oh my gosh, the gender thing. Some people would get seriously nuts about it. I mean, I understand the reasoning, but is that word seriously the most offensive thing they can think of?
It's a weird issues because percentage-wise, the vast majority of our children are going to identify with the gender associated with their anatomy. I don't think it makes us bad parents for assuming our child with male anatomy will identify as a male as an adult. That doesn't mean we won't accept him if he doesn't. And it doesn't mean we're going to force feed him gender stereotypes.
But like I said, "gender reveal" just slightly.. irks me. I'm all for parties though. We're having a "little brother or sister?!" party, which I feel sort of kind of side steps the issue??
DS1 is 7. DD is 1. DS2 is coming in late April.
@alparodi DS has an insane amount of books. By his first Christmas he had 300... Yes I had a spreadsheet to keep track haha. He's since gotten more. It's an addiction. He loves them though!
About me:
Married 6.26.11
BFP 12.23.13, EDD 9.2.14 - baby girl, born too soon at 22w6d due to a placental abruption on 5.5.14
BFP 8.4.14, EDD 4.15.15 - rainbow son, born at 30w4d due to a placental abruption on 2.8.15, healthy 3 y/o now!
BFP 2.28.17, EDD 11.8.17 - baby girl, miscarried at 11 weeks on 4.21.17
BFP 11.28.17, EDD 8.8.18, delivering in July - another rainbow baby boy!
@ArtificialRed I get from a political correctness sense why gender reveal isn't right but an unborn baby doesn't identify with any gender and won't for quite some time, and like you said it's not wrong for parents to assume their children will identify with the gender associated with their sexes. And yeah - no one wants a sex party for a baby haha. There are invitations for it but that's not my kind of humor. Little brother/sister party could definitely work for someone having a 2nd+ kid!
@MississippiCatfish girl, same.
My guess is that DD has around 100 books, many hand-me-downs from cousins! We go "shopping" from the cousins when we visit (about 10 years age difference, so they don't mind giving up the books)
DD's closet is oddly deep, so we have 2 bookshelves in there plus a small shelf downstairs.
@elsieisamoocow Holy smokes! DD's first words were mama and dada, but her third was book, so yeah, she's very into her collection
I had an UO, but I have since forgotten it. Darn it, what was I going to say?!?!?