October 2017 Moms

Thick NT measurement...waiting on testing

I'm having twins and we had a NT scan done on Friday where they measured the baby in questions neck and it was 3mm, which is the high side of normal. Based on this, we met with the genetics counselor and he told us the chances are combined with my age of 37 when embryos were frozen, there is about a 5% chance (1 in 20) that it will have a chromosomal abnormality like Downs.  So he recommended we do the CVS testing where they test each Babies placenta and we got that done that afternoon as well.  Test results of the FISH (fluorescent testing that gives rapid results) came back today and baby b is normal but they couldn't do the FISH with baby a's sample because it was too small to also do the full test.   So now for baby a, they'll do the full test where they grow the cells and watch them but we won't get those results back for at least 10 days!  We are already a nervous wreck and now faced with even more wait.  The doctor also said he wanted us to get the cvs testing done before amnio because if we choose to abort the baby, chances are better for the other baby to live the earlier it is done.  So now ten more days at least makes me almost at 15 weeks at that point which seems very late.  Is anyone else dealing with a scare like this or have you ever? Just trying to stay positive but it's really hard with the long wait ahead.  
Married to DH since 8/15
TTC since 5/15
PCOS, 35+, diagnosed with pre-diabetes
TI for 4 cycles: 1 round of femara; 2 rounds femara/ injectables: all ended in BFN. 
3 IUI Cycles: letrozole/Follistim with HCG Trigger,all resulted in BFN.
FET #1: Baseline appt 4/28/16, Gonal-F/Menopur stims, Centrotide 5/4/16, ER 5/11/16; 6/8/16 ET, BFN
FET #2: Baseline appt 6/22/16, Estrace/PIO shots: 7/12/16 ET, 1st beta 7/21/16: 83 BFP, 2nd beta 7/23/16: 315. 1st U/S: 8/4/16 empty sac.  2nd U/S: 8/10/16 yolk sac appeared, everything stopped growing. Office D&C: 8/11/16, MC.
FET #3: Baseline appt 12/28/16, Estrace/PIO shots: 1/17/17 ET, 1st beta 1/27/17: 146 BFP, 2nd beta 1/29/17: 336, 1st U/S: 2/16/17, 2 healthy twin babies measuring 7w0d.  EDD: 10/5/17
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  • @emgem819 I have no experience with this, but just wanted to share my support for you and your growing family! Hopefully the next several days come quickly and you're able to receive an answer and come to a decision if you have to! Best wishes. Sending some prayers your guys' way!
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  • Thanks you @yenrec I appreciate your kind words and prayers! ❤
    Married to DH since 8/15
    TTC since 5/15
    PCOS, 35+, diagnosed with pre-diabetes
    TI for 4 cycles: 1 round of femara; 2 rounds femara/ injectables: all ended in BFN. 
    3 IUI Cycles: letrozole/Follistim with HCG Trigger,all resulted in BFN.
    FET #1: Baseline appt 4/28/16, Gonal-F/Menopur stims, Centrotide 5/4/16, ER 5/11/16; 6/8/16 ET, BFN
    FET #2: Baseline appt 6/22/16, Estrace/PIO shots: 7/12/16 ET, 1st beta 7/21/16: 83 BFP, 2nd beta 7/23/16: 315. 1st U/S: 8/4/16 empty sac.  2nd U/S: 8/10/16 yolk sac appeared, everything stopped growing. Office D&C: 8/11/16, MC.
    FET #3: Baseline appt 12/28/16, Estrace/PIO shots: 1/17/17 ET, 1st beta 1/27/17: 146 BFP, 2nd beta 1/29/17: 336, 1st U/S: 2/16/17, 2 healthy twin babies measuring 7w0d.  EDD: 10/5/17
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  • No experience - just want to say you'll be in my thoughts and prayers!  I hope the next 10 days fly by!

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  • @emgem819 thinking of you, and I hope the time passes quickly!



  • I hope you get answers ASAP. Thinking of you!
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  • Thoughts n prayers headed your way @emgem819! Just like @lovehorse77 said : these testing are not 100% accurate. 
    Let us know if any development! 
  • Thanks you so much to everyone who has commented! I appreciate your support so much more than you know! :) 
    Married to DH since 8/15
    TTC since 5/15
    PCOS, 35+, diagnosed with pre-diabetes
    TI for 4 cycles: 1 round of femara; 2 rounds femara/ injectables: all ended in BFN. 
    3 IUI Cycles: letrozole/Follistim with HCG Trigger,all resulted in BFN.
    FET #1: Baseline appt 4/28/16, Gonal-F/Menopur stims, Centrotide 5/4/16, ER 5/11/16; 6/8/16 ET, BFN
    FET #2: Baseline appt 6/22/16, Estrace/PIO shots: 7/12/16 ET, 1st beta 7/21/16: 83 BFP, 2nd beta 7/23/16: 315. 1st U/S: 8/4/16 empty sac.  2nd U/S: 8/10/16 yolk sac appeared, everything stopped growing. Office D&C: 8/11/16, MC.
    FET #3: Baseline appt 12/28/16, Estrace/PIO shots: 1/17/17 ET, 1st beta 1/27/17: 146 BFP, 2nd beta 1/29/17: 336, 1st U/S: 2/16/17, 2 healthy twin babies measuring 7w0d.  EDD: 10/5/17
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  • Will keep you in my prayers...I hope you get answers sooner than the 10 days, I can only imagine how stressed you are.
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  • Thinking of you as you play the horrible waiting game.  I hope things come back ok!
  • Stay positive, mama! Hoping these days fly by and good news comes your way. Thinking of you 
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  • Waiting days not knowing has to be so hard! Hoping you get good news and it goes quickly. 
  • Sending good vibes your way! Hang in there.
  • I'm so sorry you are stuck in this dreaded waiting game. Wishing for you the best results possible!
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  • Will be thinking of you while you await the results. Hang in there
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  • I'm so sorry that you are going through this. 10 days is an awfully long time to wait. Try to keep busy and stay positive. I am thinking of you. 
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    edited April 2017
    The waiting game is always the worst. I just listened to a Birth Hour episode where the woman didn't find out her daughter had Downs until she was born - apparently the ultrasounds hadn't raised any flags. It was a very moving episode, it's titled Beauty in the Unexpected in case you're interested (also I just love the Birth Hour podcast).
  • hugs and prayers. I can relate to the suckyness of the wait because we had to wait for my son's amnio results for 2 weeks. One thing to remember, I don't know if the geneticist mentioned it or not, there are many syndromes and conditions that can cause a thicker measurement and most will not show up on prenatal testing. My son's syndrome is one of them. If you don't think you can raise a child with special needs then you might want to look into other options for after the babies are born just in case. Not saying this to be a dick, I promise, just preparing you for the fact that these tests don't test for everything. Prayers your baby is healthy, I'd never wish an unhealthy baby on anyone. If you want to talk privately at all please feel free to PM me, being in limbo sucks.
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  • Ok. The wait is killing me too now.  Keep checking this thread for an update. You and your family and little growing babes are still in my thoughts and prayers. 
  • You're in my thoughts.....hope you're doing ok!
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  • Sorry guys! No update still!  Dr called me today and the cells have been growing so slowly (and the sample was so small) at the Mayo Clinic so they had to call them inconclusive.  So I scheduled an amnio for Monday which I'm hoping they will be able to extract a good enough sample to be able to give us some results via fish rapid results which we can get by Tuesday or Wednesday.  If for some reason they can't do fish we'd have to wait another two weeks and hopefully those results would be conclusive.  We are beyond frustrated and really just want an answer either way at this point, it's just so hard.  Thank you all for the support ♥️.
    Married to DH since 8/15
    TTC since 5/15
    PCOS, 35+, diagnosed with pre-diabetes
    TI for 4 cycles: 1 round of femara; 2 rounds femara/ injectables: all ended in BFN. 
    3 IUI Cycles: letrozole/Follistim with HCG Trigger,all resulted in BFN.
    FET #1: Baseline appt 4/28/16, Gonal-F/Menopur stims, Centrotide 5/4/16, ER 5/11/16; 6/8/16 ET, BFN
    FET #2: Baseline appt 6/22/16, Estrace/PIO shots: 7/12/16 ET, 1st beta 7/21/16: 83 BFP, 2nd beta 7/23/16: 315. 1st U/S: 8/4/16 empty sac.  2nd U/S: 8/10/16 yolk sac appeared, everything stopped growing. Office D&C: 8/11/16, MC.
    FET #3: Baseline appt 12/28/16, Estrace/PIO shots: 1/17/17 ET, 1st beta 1/27/17: 146 BFP, 2nd beta 1/29/17: 336, 1st U/S: 2/16/17, 2 healthy twin babies measuring 7w0d.  EDD: 10/5/17
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  • Thoughts and prayers mama! ❤️
  • Thoughts and prayers to you and stay strong! 
  • Thinking of you and your family! Good vibes :heart:
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  • So sorry you have to wait even longer! Sending tons of good vibes!

  • Thoughts and prayers with you! I hope you get your answers soon <3
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  • Will be thinking and praying for you!

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  • Yay! That's such wonderful news!! You'll be in my thoughts til those final results are in but I'm so glad you are able to relax a bit!  <3
  • emgem819 Hooray! So happy for you! <3
  • That's great news!
  • Yay!  Happy news !!!
  • what great news!!  such a relief :)

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    @emgem819 I'm so glad you got good news! :) 
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  • So glad to hear that both your babies are healthy. My baby also has a high NT measurement (3.7 mm) and I'm waiting on a blood test called Panorama before deciding on an amnio. Your story helps me stay positive.
  • So so glad to hear @emgem819

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  • @vbonitto I'm sorry to hear about your baby with a high NT measurement as well, but hoping it turns out to be nothing as well.  Because we had twins, both blood tests turned out to be inconclusive, but if we could have found out via blood tests that's the route I'd take.  In the end, amnio was the only choice left and I dont regret doing it to get peace of mind but if you don't need to, it isn't worth the extra procedure.  Hoping for the best for you and your baby! ❤️ Hang in there.
    Married to DH since 8/15
    TTC since 5/15
    PCOS, 35+, diagnosed with pre-diabetes
    TI for 4 cycles: 1 round of femara; 2 rounds femara/ injectables: all ended in BFN. 
    3 IUI Cycles: letrozole/Follistim with HCG Trigger,all resulted in BFN.
    FET #1: Baseline appt 4/28/16, Gonal-F/Menopur stims, Centrotide 5/4/16, ER 5/11/16; 6/8/16 ET, BFN
    FET #2: Baseline appt 6/22/16, Estrace/PIO shots: 7/12/16 ET, 1st beta 7/21/16: 83 BFP, 2nd beta 7/23/16: 315. 1st U/S: 8/4/16 empty sac.  2nd U/S: 8/10/16 yolk sac appeared, everything stopped growing. Office D&C: 8/11/16, MC.
    FET #3: Baseline appt 12/28/16, Estrace/PIO shots: 1/17/17 ET, 1st beta 1/27/17: 146 BFP, 2nd beta 1/29/17: 336, 1st U/S: 2/16/17, 2 healthy twin babies measuring 7w0d.  EDD: 10/5/17
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