So I know we've mentioned them here and there in other threads but lets reeeaally talk about them ! What kind of relationship do you have with you MIL, FAL, SIL/BIL ? Has is always been that way ?

regardless of the gif....This is not a negative only kind of thread lol. I wanna hear them all, good and not so good
edited to add : don't worry about lengthy comments ! I'll start mine in a few, might take me a while
Re: GTKY : Your In Laws !
DH has two brothers, one I don't know very well because he lives across the country and the other I just had a big falling out with last month. We have never gotten along super great as it was but he is one of DH's best friends so I tried to just let it slide. Some crap went down last month when everyone was drunk (except me as I was freshly pregnant) and he basically told me he didn't like me, which led to he and DH getting into a verbal altercation and him throwing a punch at DH.
He gave me a few apologies that I didn't feel were sincere. So yeah. He's basically dead to me.
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That said, I have had some small dramaz with his sister, mostly in the first few years. Much better now.
My FIL is the biggest problem child in DH's family, he's fun and a nice guy, but he harbors so much resentment toward my MIL's family (they were middle school sweethearts and got divorced about 15 years ago- he cheated and left her and is now married to the other woman.) He didn't even come to our rehearsal dinner because MIL hosted it *rolls eyes* Also, he's super macho and gives DH shit for anything he views as being not manly enough. He's mellowing out in his middle age, though, and DH is much better at dealing with him.
SIL/her H - read above. just a spoiled brat, has no clue what life is. MIL/FIL have just done everything for her (they even do her yard work!!). she expects everything to be handed to her. her H is brainwashed into thinking this is all normal.
H's Brother/his wife - we had some dramaz early on with this SIL, but we talked like grown ups and now I am so thankful for her. we are different in just abuot everything (parenting styles, personalities, priorities etc). but she is a really good shoulder to vent on about the family drama. BIL is H's best friend. they live an hour away so we dont see them a lot, and they drive me crazy sometimes. but i love them!
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My mom is 18 years younger (!!!!!) than my MIL but they jointly take the kids all over the place and seem to like sharing grandkids. They are the only grandkids on both sides, so both of them are making the most of it!
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FIL isn't married to MIL anymore. DH and he have a very rough past. FIL cheated on MIL when dH was 9 and he never ever forgave or forgot it. FIL is a very eccentric person. He beats to his own drum and is an odd one lol.
My SIL (DHs sister) and I are pretty close. The whole children topic sometimes can be a bit rocky because she can't have her own children. But she loves her nieces and seems genuinely happy for us about #3. Her husband is great and the two of them really get involved with the girls. They will be the girls legal guardians should anything happen, God forbid.
My oldest brothers now ex wife and I had a decent friendship. But she cheated on my brother with the local HS softball coach and well the entire family damns her to hell.
My other brothers wife is okay. She's sort of in my brothers ear a lot and it has hurt his relationship with out mom in the past. But they are back on track. She never really made an effort to are about getting to know my kids and her lack of communication even with me trying has hurt my relationship with my nieces and nephew. They have no clue who I am. It's sad.
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Oh the ILs. I swear that my husband didn't come from his family. LOL! I love my ILs and we get along, they are just different than what I am used to/grew up around. I'd say my ILs parenting approach was to be their children's friends and that definitely led down some rough roads. I don't really agree with how they handle certain situations that have come up with his siblings in the 8 years we have been together, but eh it's not my place. Due to some unfortunate decisions on MILs part during my pregnancy with DD (which I'll spare you from, lets just say mid-life crisis), DH is not comfortable with having our children stay with them. Therefore, they usually come to our house for weekends.
I think the biggest issue I have is how sporadic they are. I'm complete opposite and like to plan for having guests over. They are usually the cause for my anxiety and arguments with DH when they are all the sudden coming over and it's Friday afternoon and I have to cancel all of my plans for the weekend and then right before they are supposed to get there they call and say they aren't coming. This is a normal occurrence around our parts. All in all, I love them and we get along enough.
Also I realized I forgot about my siblings' significant others. None of them are married yet.
Sister 1 - Has a baby and is engaged. DH and I liked her fiance at first but he is very very immature and selfish. He thinks he should get to go out and drink and gamble with his buddies every weekend.
Sister 2 - Is gay and is in a still fairly new relationship. I like her girlfriend a lot but I worry about how fast they have been moving.
Baby Brother - Has his first pretty serious girlfriend and she is a sweetheart.
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Confession: I like her more than I like my brother. Kidding, mostly, I love him he's a great guy. But seriously he better not f it up with her.
sister 1 - she has always jumped from guy to guy. i am not totally sold she even truly loves her H. she was divorced and just wanted to be married i think. he is a good guy, def has his flaws. but at the end of the day, i dont think "love" was ever really either of their priority, they more so wanted someone. and if it works for them whatevs. but his conversation skills are so terrible and i hate when i get stuck talking to him haha.
sister 2 - her H is selfish, which is a direct result of his upbringing. i will give him he acknowledges his flaws. he is a good guy, but he makes my sister's life a lot harder than it needs to be because of his "ways"...but my sister is also not the easiest person and he "handles" her well. opposite of other BIL, he is so interesting to talk to. we have a lot of different view, and we can get lost in a healthy debate for hours.
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Little bro is insanely smart, he's a CPA now and has such a bright future. Interned and worked for Ernst and Young for awhile until he accepted another offer. He is also very "black and white" a little close-minded, and has always had very little patience for "silly" girls who are in any way high-maintenance or unintelligent. Not the type to jump from girl to girl.
He met SIL in college, and finally met his match. She's a dentist now, and as smart or smarter than him. Also super sweet, doesn't take shit from him, and also is equally comfortable going out with zero makeup and sweats on as she is getting dolled up and going dancing. AND SHE WAS HIS FIRST! Haha I wormed that out of her last year and love it.
Quick proposal story and I'm done, lol. Bro was working in Chicago two years ago and SIL was still finishing up dental school in MI. During an October college football game, he secretly took the train to Ann Arbor. After the game, SIL's friend told her she wanted to walk home through the law school yard (It's beautiful). Bro was there, dressed up in suit and tie, and friend got the whole thing on camera. All the feelz. Here's a pic and sorry if its huge:
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Same story with SIL (DH's sister) and her family. We don't see them often but I enjoy being around them when we do. They have three boys.
Dhs brother has cerebral palsy and because of that, he still lives at home and was pretty babied. I get aggravated with him sometimes because he's perfectly capable but acts like he's not.
My brother's (ex?) Wife is a piece of work. I'm not sure if their divorce is final yet or not. She was upset with my brother and got him arrested for harassment for trying to come see his son at the house he was still paying for at the time and was still his legal residence. So she's not my favorite person...
As for my family one of my brothers is married to a pretty loud mouthed controlling girl. DH has often said how there is no way he would put up with the stuff my brother does, but I guess different strokes for different folks. She has an opinion on EVERYTHING! When they were still engaged (with no kids) she gave me so much parenting "advice" on the two kids I had at the time. I think if we lived close to them she would bother me a lot, but since they are across the country it is easier to let her roll off my back. My other brother is getting pretty serious with a girl my parents describe as sweet and smart, but I haven't met her yet (again halfway across the country.) I take my parents info with a grain of salt because they praised high heaven about SIL before my brother married her and didn't really see a bunch of the warning signs until too late. Now they admit that she can be kind of nasty and controlling.
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I really only have an issue with DHs brother and his wife. They use DHs mom for daycare but don't compensate her and treat her like crap all the time. It's constantly them being mean to her, her telling them to find new child care, them apologizing and kissing her ass, then it starts over. And his brother always thinks he is better than everyone and constantly posts on FB about lazy people taking assistance from the gov blah blah when we know for a fact that him and his kids are on state insurance, his wife is on WIC, and just recently they were on food stamps for several months because they moved states and didn't work for an entire summer.
That was really more of a rant haha.
DH and his sister have a love-hate relationship, as they're both very opinionated, but I really like her and we get along well. I'm much closer with her than I am with my own siblings (due to location and personality).
my brother's wife is crazy. She's the reason that I don't really have much of a relationship with him anymore. Just very very controlling, self-centered, and crazy. Lol. Definitely a sanctimommy.
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Their untimely passing makes it REALLY difficult for me to empathize with people who nit-pick at their in-laws. Now, if you have really shitty in-laws, that's not what I'm taking about. But it makes my blood boil when I see people say things like, "MIL gave DD a cookie after I specifically told her not to! Why is she so unbelievably disrespectful?!" I would give anything for my MIL to give my daughter a cookie. Suck it up, teach your kid that grandmas rules and mommies rules are a little different and move on. Or talk to MIL about it like an adult.
Now if you wanna talk disrespectful in-laws, my husband is your guy. The last time we saw my father he was highly inebriated at my sister's wedding. He started saying some awful things to my mother, so my husband attempted to escort him out and my sperm-donor threw a punch at him! That poor guy! People who are manipulative, violent, disrespectful, are the people you cut out of your life. Don't cut out your in-laws because they bend the rules from time to time, they are just trying to create a different sort of special bond with your babies.
Disclaimer: I'm not saying that anyone here has done that, but there always tends to be one in every bunch and I'm just putting it out there now.
I'll try not to indulge in a novel here!
Well, H has two sisters, one 2 yrs older the other one 2 yrs younger. I love them both! The oldest has been my hairdresser ever since I started dating her brother, married 2 lovely kids (and a lazy husband... ugh!). The youngest has been my only good friend - besides H - ever since I started dating H. So mature i dont even feel the age difference. She has just gone through divorce and mc, with very few chances of having another Drs say, but is still very happy for H and I about our first.
The day I started dating H was the day we moved in together, and though both SILs knew, it was kept a secret from their parents.... Because arabs(muslims) are forbidden to live with someone(opposite sex) unless they're married. We have been married for almost 2 yrs and we still cant say we ve been together for 5 lol.
Anyways... So before we made it official, they had known me as Mina and Louiza's friend, not as H's woman. Fun story they're the ones who told H he should think about marrying me. "your sisters friend Layla is ssso nice" lol. And thats exactly how I think of them : just sssso nice!
Ill go ahead and say this, although im keeping this for next weeks discussion, my parents live on another continent, but I dont feel it thanks to my in laws. I feel I have a real family here, one that loves me genuinely. They live two streets down but never impose. We go visit them once every week, they have got a mutli generation house so even SILs and kids live there.
MIL has been a daycare (and inhome) owner for more than a decade now and so she thinks she all care professionals (pediatrician, nutritionist, psychologue etc... Lol) and that can sometimes be a little annoying... But id be ungrateful if I said she doesnt give the best advices lol. I know she'll be a little overwhelming when ill give birth to her grandchild but... I know cant have it all!
As for my BIL (my sisters husband) hes the worst piece of ish ive ever encountered. To me, he is a mix of my ex husband, who did use me to get his citizenship, and of my H's ex wife who was manipulative and hysterical. Forbids my sister from working, wants her to have a baby every 2 yrs, doesnt go out with her, hes always out, sweet talks other women on FB and wont disclose any of his passwords. All he does is smoke moroccan hashish.(i gotta add this:my sister came to give birth in Montreal last july to her 2nd. She came with her DD. Welcomed them with open arms, so did H. I dont work so i had company and i could take care of her meanwhile. But the plan was that her H would come two weeks later and get themselves an appartement so that he can take care of my sister while pregnant. He came in december, two weeks before she gave birth. So H and I had to do HIS job, financially and morally, while he was chilling in morocco smoking and going out.... He even came with moroccan hashish plugged down his butt so that he could still enjoy it here (smoking inside a small apartment with a newborn and a 2yrs old))
I cant talk to my sister because of him. She doesnt have any self esteem anymore and though ive tried helping i end up being blamed (her husband manipulates her into thinking i do not want whats best for her just because i conviced my sister to go back morocco when i noticed he was starting to be interested in staying, and getting his citizenship all of a sudden)... So i just cant deal with either of them.
Waw, (sorry for the lengthy post!!!) but this felt effin good to write down (the BIL part, that is) lol. I dont really get to express how that situation made me (and H, whos been wonderful all through those 6 months) feel.
I'm an only child. Grew up with just my parents. I have cousins, aunts, and uncles, but my folks are very low-key. Nobody gets in one another's business in my family. Never has.
The first time I met my in laws, they scared the hell out of me. They are loud, intense, and know everything about each other. Somehow they know things before the person it is happening to even knows.
With all that said - DH is from Philly (his parents, Grandmother, and brother's family live there) and the rest of his siblings are spread around from New York to Massachusetts to Mississippi. We are in Tennessee. Distance may be what keeps us all happy with one another, who knows!
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@bluejeanbabi05 Well that's just freaking adorable! Congrats to your brother and his fiancee!
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My Grandmother was just not a nice person. Totally didn't mean to compare her to your inlaws. For example, she traveled 4 hours to see my cousin graduate from Optometry school, yet couldn't bring herself to get in a car and come 2 hours for my graduation the same year. If my DH could travel 9hr from New Orleans, where he was in school, to make it to my graduation then that old bat could have caught a ride with the 20 other family members coming to make it. Nope. Was just too much. /soapbox
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@carries2018 I think you said it right for all of us, that we have to stop having a pity party and figure out how to parent through it. When I finally gave myself that freedom, it was amazing. There's no changing how someone else behaves but our reaction to it and how we parent through all of it is what should be most important.
Oh and I forgot my fave MIL story. So my wonderful mother passed away 8 years ago and DH and I got married 5 years ago. I kid you not, 3 days before my wedding my MIL was crying on MY shoulder because she realized my mom wasn't going to be there to see me get married. Um... what?!!