Unpopular Opinion 3/30/17

Jens_Hoes

Anyone? Anyone?

MoshiMoshi7

I'll go first today! I think having an extremely detailed birth plan is setting yourself up for disappointment.

hp_momma

I think a written out birth plan in general is a waste of time. I know what I want, DH knows what I want, and my OB knows what I want. I've never encountered a nurse who doesn't discuss the choices during labor with me either. 

bacorrea

Cereal milk is disgusting. I cannot watch my siblings drink the milk out of their cereal bowls. It makes me gag.

I think that phrases in the bathroom like "get naked" are tacky.

I think that the people freaking out over the girls having to change their leggings to board the airline are ridiculous. They were pass riders and need to follow the rules. 

I also think the Mom who threw a fit about her son getting a pat down wanted her 15 minutes of fame. The kid was not bothered. I'm sure she think just because she is white and from Texas her family should never be pat down. *Rolls eyes*

bacorrea

MoshiMoshi7 said:

I'll go first today! I think having an extremely detailed birth plan is setting yourself up for disappointment.

Sooo much this. I've been told this my whole life though because my Mom was one of those people. She wanted to have a med free birth with me and after 27 hours of labor ended up with a cesarean. 

I was *hoping* to have a med free birth, but at 39.1 weeks I got pre-e and ended up with a ton of drugs. I wasn't super disappointed though, because I knew it could happen. I think women put too much pressure on themselves to have a med free birth/no intervention birth.

neludelu

bacorrea said:

Cereal milk is disgusting. I cannot watch my siblings drink the milk out of their cereal bowls. It makes me gag.

I think that phrases in the bathroom like "get naked" are tacky.

I think that the people freaking out over the girls having to change their leggings to board the airline are ridiculous. They were pass riders and need to follow the rules. 

I also think the Mom who threw a fit about her son getting a pat down wanted her 15 minutes of fame. The kid was not bothered. I'm sure she think just because she is white and from Texas her family should never be pat down. *Rolls eyes*

Oh I totally ageee with the leggings thing and the pat down. She could have handled the situation so much better. If he was so distraught why was she filming and now offering support to call him down?

NotAPlaya-JustCrushAlot

bacorrea said:

I think that the people freaking out over the girls having to change their leggings to board the airline are ridiculous. They were pass riders and need to follow the rules. 

I also think the Mom who threw a fit about her son getting a pat down wanted her 15 minutes of fame. The kid was not bothered. I'm sure she think just because she is white and from Texas her family should never be pat down. *Rolls eyes*

I work in an industry known for its slack  dress codes.  I previously worked in an industry that incorporated very sexist norms for female dress.  First, I think it's ridiculous that you expect teenage passengers to follow a company dress code to ride a plane.  Most customers would not assume the girls were representing the company.  Second, if I were to review a dress code for legal purposes, I would want it to be written as equally and facially neutral as possible.  The fact that the dress code allowed the father to board wearing shorts but did not allow the girls to wear leggings is pretty archaic.   So basically, the rules are dumb.  The press coverage was overboard, but, honestly, if it gives us a break on the political headlines....

As to the TSA, according to the mom, the son had SPD and had already gone through the body scanners.  It seems a 15 minute body pat down was excessive after the kid was already screened.   I had to endure a pat down when I was newly pregnant and refused the body scanner.  I asked to use the metal detector instead, which they would have let me do had I been holding DD.  Unfortunately, DH went ahead with DD so through the metal detector and TSA wouldn't let me go through so my only option was a pat down.  It was pretty intrusive.  Normal course of business? Maybe.  But I can imagine it would be upsetting for a mom with a son who had SPD and felt singled out.

pshaortao

What legging thing? I must have missed something.

I personally was appalled by the patdown especially considering he only had shorts and a tee on. I've had plenty of patdowns and mine are much quicker with more clothes on. I was also wondering why are you filming? And he got a patdown because an alarm went off on his laptop? What? Unless it was something that happened before, it seems like theres a lot of information missing because its just not adding up.

sarah0985

As someone who travels on a staff ticket (h works for an airline) the family knew the rules. It's stated in the rules exactly how it works. If they don't like it, they can fly a full fare. Me personally? I'll take my ID50 or id90 benefits and wear what they want me to wear anyday of the week whether I agree or not with a dress code. 

What bothers me is that it wasn't the family bitching. It was a nosy customer that tweeted it or made it public or whatever.  That family or the employee could lose their benefits because of that. 

Jens_Hoes

I agree about the birth plans.

I don't see why the girls weren't let on the plane with leggings.  My step-mother was a flight attendant before 9/11 and I often flew standby with my sister.  We never were subjected to our dress being looked at and as being a representative of the company.  I think these girls were children & it was unnecessary.

As for the pat down, I refused the scanner on one of my trips in February and got a patdown.  It was very intrusive.  I don't consider myself a "clutch my pearls" type of girl, but I felt very uncomfortable doing it, and actually did the scanner on the way home due to how uncomfortable I was.  I know nothing about the story with this boy, so I cannot comment about that part, but I agree that they can be incredibly intrusive even if you know what they are going to do and why they are doing it.

inomniaparatus2

@MoshiMoshi7 Yes! I don't want to get my mind set on one way to have the medical staff tell me it won't work. Going it hoping for this and if it ends up as that I'm good. That's also why I don't need to know every.single.detail with childbirth. The nurses and dr know what they are doing so I will listen to them 

@bacorrea Yes to the drinking cereal milk. That's nasty! I also hate soggy cereal. I give any leftover milk or soggy to my dogs. 

My UO I would rather have it snow than rain. The temps are finally getting warmer (40s-50s) and it is going to rain almost everyday for the next week and a half. We already have lots of standing water from the rain. My dogs get dirty and it's too hard to bend down to dry them or hose them down. Snow you can at least do stuff in it. 

Jens_Hoes

SWE2 said:

SNIP

My UO I would rather have it snow than rain. The temps are finally getting warmer (40s-50s) and it is going to rain almost everyday for the next week and a half. We already have lots of standing water from the rain. My dogs get dirty and it's too hard to bend down to dry them or hose them down. Snow you can at least do stuff in it. 

You take that back right now!!! It is finally spring here in upstate NY and we're supposed to get 3-7 inches of damn snow tomorrow!!! It is almost April for friggen sake! Plus, the more snow we have, the longer til my husband can start working.... and this is us right now:

RedInLove

While I believe the girls were perfectly fine in leggings, I also agree that the family would have been aware of the rules and should have fully complied. I think the agent could have exercised some leniency, but I don't fault her for adhering to company policy. 

I never drink cereal milk. Blech!

Squirtgun

bacorrea said:

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I think that phrases in the bathroom like "get naked" are tacky.
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I am so confused by this sentence. I tell my daughters "it's time to get naked" before every bathtime. Is this tacky and I just don't know it? Is this a thing? Why do you care what I'm saying in my bathroom?  So many questions. 

sarah0985

I'm Squirtgun said:

bacorrea said:

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I think that phrases in the bathroom like "get naked" are tacky.
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I am so confused by this sentence. I tell my daughters "it's time to get naked" before every bathtime. Is this tacky and I just don't know it? Is this a thing? Why do you care what I'm saying in my bathroom?  So many questions. 

I read it as she didn't like the signs with sayings on them. 
But the way you said it now has me laughing and wondering the same thing as you. 

Squirtgun

sarah0985 said:

I'm Squirtgun said:

bacorrea said:

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I think that phrases in the bathroom like "get naked" are tacky.
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I am so confused by this sentence. I tell my daughters "it's time to get naked" before every bathtime. Is this tacky and I just don't know it? Is this a thing? Why do you care what I'm saying in my bathroom?  So many questions. 

I read it as she didn't like the signs with sayings on them. 
But the way you said it now has me laughing and wondering the same thing as you. 

Ooooooh!  Yeah, that does make a lot of sense!  

WombThereItIs

Squirtgun said:

bacorrea said:

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I think that phrases in the bathroom like "get naked" are tacky.
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I am so confused by this sentence. I tell my daughters "it's time to get naked" before every bathtime. Is this tacky and I just don't know it? Is this a thing? Why do you care what I'm saying in my bathroom?  So many questions. 

I also think she meant the obnoxious vinyl lettering and saying people out on walls. 

But i I am a very big fan of crudely yelling GET NAKED in the bathroom. Getting a toddler undressed can be a battle, making it a fun game is a matter of survival. LETS GET NAKED! is right up there with using shower peeing as a lure to get him in there. I bet you can't show me how to pee in there! 

schnitz9

sarah0985 said:

I'm Squirtgun said:

bacorrea said:

**snip**
I think that phrases in the bathroom like "get naked" are tacky.
**snip**

I am so confused by this sentence. I tell my daughters "it's time to get naked" before every bathtime. Is this tacky and I just don't know it? Is this a thing? Why do you care what I'm saying in my bathroom?  So many questions. 

I read it as she didn't like the signs with sayings on them. 
But the way you said it now has me laughing and wondering the same thing as you. 

This reminds me of a cross stitched sign that my grandmother had hanging in her guest bath. It read "if you sprinkle when you tinkle, be a sweetie and wipe the seatie..." I laughed everytime......

MoshiMoshi7

@SWE2 I agree about snow! At least DS can play in the snow. There isn't much to do in freezing rain.

I feel a bit torn about the pat down situation. I can definitely understand how intrusive the pat down is and how anxiety inducing it would be to have one performed on your son with SPD. At the same time, it seems sort of icky to me and fame whorish that the mom was recording and immediately went to the media. I'm not sure what the best course of action would have been, but putting down the camera and helping your son through an uncomfortable situation would have probably been my priority.

starphish18

SWE2 said:

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My UO I would rather have it snow than rain. The temps are finally getting warmer (40s-50s) and it is going to rain almost everyday for the next week and a half. We already have lots of standing water from the rain. My dogs get dirty and it's too hard to bend down to dry them or hose them down. Snow you can at least do stuff in it. 

Agreed!

starphish18

For the record, I was really confused when I read the title of this thread. I don't know why it took me so long to process that "Unpopular Opinion" is the same exact thing as "UO", but you got me @Jens_Hoes.

starphish18

schnitz9 said:

sarah0985 said:

I'm Squirtgun said:

bacorrea said:

**snip**
I think that phrases in the bathroom like "get naked" are tacky.
**snip**

I am so confused by this sentence. I tell my daughters "it's time to get naked" before every bathtime. Is this tacky and I just don't know it? Is this a thing? Why do you care what I'm saying in my bathroom?  So many questions. 

I read it as she didn't like the signs with sayings on them. 
But the way you said it now has me laughing and wondering the same thing as you. 

This reminds me of a cross stitched sign that my grandmother had hanging in her guest bath. It read "if you sprinkle when you tinkle, be a sweetie and wipe the seatie..." I laughed everytime......

Omg, I love that. When my H's best friend got married, I made them the cross stitch sign below. I love a good cross stitch saying around the house.

hp_momma

WombThereItIs said:

Squirtgun said:

bacorrea said:

**snip**
I think that phrases in the bathroom like "get naked" are tacky.
**snip**

I am so confused by this sentence. I tell my daughters "it's time to get naked" before every bathtime. Is this tacky and I just don't know it? Is this a thing? Why do you care what I'm saying in my bathroom?  So many questions. 

I also think she meant the obnoxious vinyl lettering and saying people out on walls. 

But i I am a very big fan of crudely yelling GET NAKED in the bathroom. Getting a toddler undressed can be a battle, making it a fun game is a matter of survival. LETS GET NAKED! is right up there with using shower peeing as a lure to get him in there. I bet you can't show me how to pee in there! 

My girls think it's hilarious to "be naked" before bath time. Whatever gets them in the bath! 

Although I just realized I'm probably going to have to do twice as many bath times now because there's no way I can fit three kids in our tubs. Damn. 

hp_momma

bacorrea said:

I also think the Mom who threw a fit about her son getting a pat down wanted her 15 minutes of fame. The kid was not bothered. I'm sure she think just because she is white and from Texas her family should never be pat down. *Rolls eyes*

Agreed. I think it's ridiculous she automatically stared filming. 

This may be a UO but my maiden name is more Arabic sounding and before I was married there were plenty of times I was probably "profiled" by TSA and was pulled for extra screening. My dad has very olive skin tone/dark hair, plus the Arabic last name has got him pulled for extra screening more often as well. It honestly hasn't ever bothered me or my dad. I just see it as TSA doing their job. 

bacorrea

Bahaha yes I meant the sign "get naked." I don't care that you scream at your kids to get naked 

WombThereItIs

So you must really love this gem, @bacorrea
 

bacorrea

WombThereItIs said:

So you must really love this gem, @bacorrea
 

I honestly didn't even know people did this. We always always flushed growing up. It wasn't until I was an adult that I heard this saying.

WombThereItIs

I only remember seeing it in cottages on Cape Cod where folks have older septic systems that can be a bit finicky.

They were often accompanied by another sign like
"Toilet Paper Rules:
1. Use as little as possible
2. Use as little as possible
3. Use as little as possible"

Jkp7749

Ive never heard that saying... Gross! Why would you ever hang that?!

pshaortao

Ha that inspired an UO for me! I don't think its necessary to flush after every pee in your own home especially if it's not really yellow (small pee or very hydrated). I think living in CA during such a severe drought had us wanting to waste less water. 

I on the other hand would never put a sign like that for guests though. 

achays11

I guess this would now be a UO, I don't mind the TSA pat down. My thoughts are that if I'm asking to not go through the scanner than it is their job to do a thorough pat down. Yes, it may be a bit intrusive, but by asking for the pat down, you kind of know what you're getting yourself into. 

kns1988

This seems like a UO after the Monday bitchfest thread: I kind of love being pregnant.

Some of you ladies are 4 weeks ahead of me, so I might be eating my words in a few weeks. 

livin541

kns1988 said:

This seems like a UO after the Monday bitchfest thread: I kind of love being pregnant.

Some of you ladies are 4 weeks ahead of me, so I might be eating my words in a few weeks. 

I was also a weirdo who loved being pregnant with my first. I honestly wasn't over it until like 39-40 weeks. This time is not nearly as magical as I remember it. Might have something to do with the toddler...

RedInLove

kns1988 said:

This seems like a UO after the Monday bitchfest thread: I kind of love being pregnant.

Some of you ladies are 4 weeks ahead of me, so I might be eating my words in a few weeks. 

I love it too, mostly. This is my second and I've been lucky that pregnancy has mostly treated me well.

OmegaRose3

Looks like a UO based off of TMI Tuesday, but thong underwear is just about all I wear. I hate full butt underwear with a fiery passion and can't stand pads either so the whole recovery process is a giant UGH in my book.

ETA: my phone did something weird with the text

BeachMommy2B

From what I've read re: TSA pat down... the boy didn't take his laptop out of the bag, and had liquids in his bag as well. Then the mom acted like a complete insane person and really sketchy the way she was asking not to have him patted down. Like almost making it seem like she was tying to hide something on his body. (Again, I read it on the internet, so take it with a grain of salt) 

I don't know how SPD works, but from the video the boy seemed to understand everything and didn't seem to be phased (maybe he was ans if just didn't show) 

I also have the UO that the TSA patdowns are unfortunately needed into today's world. If you don't want to be subjected to it, don't fly commercially. 

KMD1106

I hate anything that smells like fake vanilla. I'm also not a fan of scents like "sugar cookie," or, "apple pie."

emilyalso

If you don't live in or near Atlanta, you may not know that part of I85 (MAJOR interstate) collapsed this evening. It is going to be a nightmare for people that commute that way or just want to get from one place to another. 

Having said that... it's not a national crisis. No one was killed. So my UO is... I'd rather be watching Grey's Anatomy, thank you very much! 

kat81

emilyalso said:

If you don't live in or near Atlanta, you may not know that part of I85 (MAJOR interstate) collapsed this evening. It is going to be a nightmare for people that commute that way or just want to get from one place to another. 

Having said that... it's not a national crisis. No one was killed. So my UO is... I'd rather be watching Grey's Anatomy, thank you very much! 

I didn't hear this and I'm glad no one was killed so I agree on that aspect of it not being a national crisis. However, our collapsing infrastructure in general is a national crisis, IMO. We are so close to having a major bridge collapse in some catastrophic way. Or another hurricane Katrina-like situation. I wish we'd invest in fixing things.

NotAPlaya-JustCrushAlot

My first pregnancy was magical and this one... not so much. 

I wouldn't call TSA pat downs needed in every instance. In my case, they easily could have let me go through the metal detector, and would have if my kid was in my arms. So I basically saw it as an agent on a power trip. I've had several interesting TSA encounters, including a time when DH accidentally packed nerf guns in his carry on (instead of his checked bags) and they had to shut down the entire line and call police to investigate. The pat down time was the only time they were rude. Also, I had no pat down when DH tried to smuggle the "weapons" on board. 

kat81

Inspired by the breastfeeding thread that was just bumped, I have an UO this week -- I think that, as satisfying it is to build a big stash of frozen milk, it is not productive to do so unless you know you'll be traveling solo for a while or something along those lines (and even then you can use formula). Building up a stash can cause oversupply. If you don't have a deep freezer you'll be taking up precious space in your freezer. Also, you need to eventually use the frozen milk; it doesn't last forever. The larger your stash, the more you have to "rotate" the stash to fully replace it with fresh milk. IMO no one needs more than 100oz, and having 10oz of frozen milk (or zero!) is totally fine.