One of my closest friends has been kind of flakey this past few months. She has a pretty busy job, so I know she's been spending a lot of time on that, but still... I feel like I've been the one to reach out to her all the time, and whenever I ask if she wants to hang out, she deflects. We've seen each other, just much less than usual. Keep in mind, we're really close - we spoke at each other's weddings, we have been friends since we were 9.
I was hurt; I mean, she knows I've been having a hard time, and between the clomid cycle busts and the being benched with cysts, I'm not doing so well. I could really use a friend, you know?
Finally today, I called her out. She'd gone to deflect again, and I told her I could see what she was doing, and that I was hurt and I felt like she'd not been a good friend to me. And she started crying and said: ***TW*** "I'm pregnant, and I didn't know how to tell you, and I feel like it's not ever been the right time, because I didn't want to tell you in a public place and I didn't know how to say it. And I was really, really hoping that one of these treatments would work and we could celebrate together, so I was waiting. I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you." ***End TW*** (To be fair to her, she also has a medical condition that means she's having a high risk pregnancy, so I knew she was going to be quiet about her pregnancy for a long time, just because her odds of MC were higher than usual.)
Ugh. I just felt like someone had punched me.
I'm so happy for her, and I can't wait to meet her baby, but I hate that this is where I am - that people are tiptoeing around me and avoiding me, and that I feel like all these other people, their lives are moving forward, and here I am, just stuck.
Re: Shot Through The Heart Wednesday?
Try to look at in the sense that she cares so much about you and your feelings that she was trying her hardest to not cause you pain, rather than her tiptoeing around you. That really is a great thing, and it is so beautiful that you have such an amazing friendship.
TTC #1 since July 2016
Dx: PCOS, on Metformin since Feb 2017
I agree with what @Tops said about trying to see it as more about how much she cares about you. I know that can be hard though. I have a very good friend who dealt with IF for 5 years. I was always afraid that I would get KU before her (haha! Little did I know...). She ended up getting pregnant a few months before we stared trying, and I was so happy for her. But if I'm being honest, I was always secretly afraid it would happen for me first and I would have to tell her, and that was always something that I did not want to have to do. So, although I 1000000% understand your perspective on this, I can also see it from her side a little bit.
I hope today is a better day for you
Married 7/13
TTC #1 since 10/13
BFP 2/4/15, MC twin boys at 18w3d 5/15
IUI #1 2/25/16
It just seems so sad to me that at the time we need our friends the most, they might avoid us because of their own good news. IF is a cruel beast, you know? And the isolation aspect of it, it's two-sided. Like, I avoid certain people but also some have avoided me. Ugh.
Me: 36 DH:35
Married: 7/10/2016
TTC#1 - May 2016
BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016
BFP 5/5/2017 - CP
IVF #1 - June 2017 - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo. 7/9 Beta #1 - 161
Married June 2014
TTC #1 since March 2016
Dx: PCOS
On Meftormin since Feb 2017
DX: PCOS/Unexplained Infertility/MTHFR Mutation
TTC since December 2014
Fresh Transfer: Gonal, Menopur, Cetrotide. ~ Chemical Pregnancy
FET #1: 1st Beta- 3,792~ 2nd Beta- 4,227~ BFP ~ Miscarriage at 8 weeks
FET #2: 1st Beta 207~2nd Beta 235~ BFP~ Miscarriage at 6 weeks
FET #3: 1st Beta 18~ 2nd Beta 44~BFP~ Miscarriage 5 weeks
FET #4: 1st Beta 50~ 2nd Beta 97.7~ Miscarriage 6 weeks 5 days
FET#5: 1st Beta 29~ 2nd Beta 109~ 3rd Beta 227~ 4th Beta 661~ Miscarriage 5 weeks 3 days
Miracle Natural BFP Estimated Due Date June 2019~ God is good
2 snow babies
I also have had several friends try to hide their pregnancies from me, even very early on when I hadn't even seen an RE yet and didn't know I had a problem. It was a little confusing.
This also happened to me with one of my best friends, and yeah, neither of us have reached out to the other since then.
It hurts to hear they're pregnant, and it also hurts that they try to hide it from us. It's a catch 22, and I don't know what, if anything, is the 'right' thing to do.
These days, whenever a friend drops off my radar, I assume they're pregnant (and I'm usually right).
I guess for me personally, my notification preference would be to receive a polite, sensitive email from them on a Friday evening, when I can spend the weekend sulking or crying or whatever. I even strongly hinted at this to a friend, but she didn't pick up the hint.
The other, bigger, sadder reality that I'm contending with is that actually, I'm not sure I can be close friends with people who are pregnant or just became mothers. Understandably, their minds are focused on their pregnancy or new motherhood status, and I just can't go there with them without feeling like my heart is racing and my brain is screaming inside my head.
For better or worse, IF is dismantling my social network.
TTC since May 2015.
Saw RE in July 2016.
11/16: IUI #1= BFN.
1/17: IUI #2 = BFN.
5/17: IVF #1. 'long lupron' protocol. E2 = 4800, 'freeze-all', 8R, 7M, 4F, 4B.
8/17: FET #1.
Thus far - 'unexplained'.
The worst thing for me is social media. One of my best friends through high school (a guy) knocked up his girlfriend and they now have a two year old and just had another one. I follow his girlfriend on social media and she gushes about motherhood and all that and I think that's even worse than baby pictures. Pretty much no one knows what I'm going through, but I can tell you that after going through this I will definitely not post a picture of my stretch marks with a long paragraph about how I carried a baby for nine months and it's amazing and being a mom is better than everything ever. UGH.
And then there's my two best friends (who are sisters) who used to ask me every time they saw me when I was going to get pregnant. The last time I saw them was in February at a wedding reception and they said it and then said, "I guess you're not pregnant since you're drinking wine. You better get on it, our cousin is already 16 weeks!" The cousin had gotten married in the fall, so they basically snapped their fingers and got pregnant. So finally I just told them we'd been trying for a year and I have PCOS so the questions would stop.
Also any time someone complains about their babies or pregnancy I want to scream. I get it, you don't get a lot of sleep, but COME ON PEOPLE!!!
DD - 12/28/17
TTC #2 3/2019
BFP 5/2019 || MC - D&C 5/2019
BFP 2/2020 || EDD 10/10/2020
Me: 36 DH:35
Married: 7/10/2016
TTC#1 - May 2016
BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016
BFP 5/5/2017 - CP
IVF #1 - June 2017 - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo. 7/9 Beta #1 - 161
@notamyrtle - The other, bigger, sadder reality that I'm contending with is that actually, I'm not sure I can be close friends with people who are pregnant or just became mothers. Understandably, their minds are focused on their pregnancy or new motherhood status, and I just can't go there with them without feeling like my heart is racing and my brain is screaming inside my head. - Ugh. I find for me, it really depends on the person. I have one friend who is so sweet and post-partum, and I don't mind talking to her, mostly because she's really funny about it, and also very supportive of me. Like she's 100% convinced we are going to have kids, and then also spends a lot of time complaining about the hemorrhoids she's had since giving birth... That part, I really don't envy - definitely makes it easier to talk to her, because it's not all: "Oh, I love being a mom!"
@Kim41313 - you're not a terrible person. Even before I was IF, I had a hard time with baby talk about the LOs... not because I'm not happy for the parent, but because I find some of that talk gets boring real fast. You can love your baby and still have other interests/hobbies/a knack for adult conversation, you know?
@MJDsquared - I follow his girlfriend on social media and she gushes about motherhood and all that and I think that's even worse than baby pictures. and I will definitely not post a picture of my stretch marks with a long paragraph about how I carried a baby for nine months and it's amazing and being a mom is better than everything ever. - Ugh. Again (like above), I find this kind of stuff both boring and obnoxious. I try to remember with people like that, sometimes they are just trying to convince themselves, and maybe don't have a lot else going on, or have low self-esteem or something. But maybe I'm just judgmental/had a more conservative upbringing...
My DH sometimes gives me a hard time because I'm more likely to complain about him than say nice things about him, at least publicly. To me, saying nice things about him in public seems like bragging, like: "Oh my H is so great"... (DH is like: "But you complain about me so readily!") Obviously, privately I compliment him and tell him I love him, but I really cannot bring myself to do anything like that on social media, or even in public with our friends. Sometimes, I'll see other people post things like: "so in love with my handsome husband!" and I think: "Barf. Get a room."
Anyway, really cannot see myself being publicly demonstrative of my children on social media, I'm just not like that, nor would I want to parent that way. Maybe my distaste for it makes me less jealous? I dunno - I don't feel jealous when I see stuff like that, just a sense of confusion as to why someone would want to behave like that, revulsion at the public display of affection, and disinterest in the person's intellect. I honestly would rather talk about hemorrhoids or cervical mucus than talk about the "miracle of motherhood."
I really do think a lot of my reaction is cultural though - I had a way more conservative upbringing than my husband, and my family can be kind of buttoned-down compared to some. My H's family is way way more open (particularly the Latin side
And yet, I get angry at the gushers anyway.
DD - 12/28/17
TTC #2 3/2019
BFP 5/2019 || MC - D&C 5/2019
BFP 2/2020 || EDD 10/10/2020
Married: 2014
TTC #1: Since 2/2016
Me: 36 DH:35
Married: 7/10/2016
TTC#1 - May 2016
BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016
BFP 5/5/2017 - CP
IVF #1 - June 2017 - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo. 7/9 Beta #1 - 161
TTC#1 - 6.3.16
BFP#1 - 7.1.16, (mo-di twins + singleton) due 3.15.17
MC singleton - 7.13.16 - 5w
MMC identical twins - 8.5.16 - 8w+2d
Misoprostol 4x
D&C - 9.12.16
Hysteroscopy - 11.21.16 - Retained tissue filling half of uterus removed, blocked left tube, benched for 2 cycles, on estrogen/progesterone for 30 days
HSG - 2.7.17 - Asherman's Syndrome. Both tubes open.
Hysteroscopy 2.13.17 - Incomplete adhesiolysis for Asherman's, benched & on estrogen/progesterone for 30 days. At least two more surgeries needed...
Hysteroscopy 3.21.17 - Adhesiolysis for Asherman's, benched & on estrogen/progesterone for 30 days.
TTCAL #1: 4.24.17
Hysteroscopy 5.23.17 - Scars reformed. Adhesiolysis. Unsure what to do next...
Fertility acupuncture - started 6.13.17
Me: 34 - SO: 40
TTC #1 since 8/2016
FINALLY diagnosed with anovulatory PCOS 11/2016 (Insulin resistance and multiple cysts on both ovaries)
Miscarriage on 7/19/17 at 7 weeks
Miscarriage on 10/16/17 at 5 weeks
My best friends all have babies, brand new babies at that, and I definitely feel the distance that has grown, particularly with one of them, who I miss the most. I think she feels bad talking about being a new mom and so she doesn't talk to me often anymore since it's all she talks about. I probably should say something but I don't know..
I'm glad I have no more baby showers coming up for a while because those were the hardest to get through. Others in my family and friends have commented on how they know it must be hard for me and somehow that doesn't really make it better because then I start feeling worse that they feel bad for me and pity me.
IF is a b**** but we have to get through each day and keep the hope that one day it will happen for each of us!