Vaccinations while pregnant

Becky012016

@texafornian; you're up to date on tetanus if you got tDap (tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis) while pregnant. Most adults post college to ~50 are current because as you said college (and most trade schools) require proof. Then, depending on health status you'll get the "geriatric" vaccines for things like pneumonia as well as tDap every decade. It's not like adults are needing vaccines every year, besides the flu shot.

awildrose

Becky012016 said:

awildrose said:

lmc929 said:

awildrose said:

Again, do what you're comfortable with. Your health decision for you and your children and simply for you and your children. 

This is not true - there is something called herd immunity. You vaccinating yourself and your children can help prevent unnecessary illness (or death) of someone who is unable to get vaccinated for medical reasons or because they are too young to get the vaccine themselves. 

There is a reason we no longer see polio and its not because a few people got the vaccine - it is because the masses did. 

ETA: Lurking from June 17

I agree with you to an extent. And I don't wish to argue. However, a vast number of adults have not stayed up to date on boosters. The percentage needed for herd immunity is much higher than real, whole population vaccine rates. We are no where near true herd immunity standards.

I do believe all medical decisions are private, but I do get where you're coming from. Again, I'm not looking for a debate. 

Not sure of your source here, but where I live people who go to their doctor yearly are offered any and all boosters they need. All the insurance plans around here require annual physicals and give free vaccinations.  Most everyone I know is up to date for all their vaccinations.  Although I don't live in the land of pseudoscience and  Dr. Jenny McCarthy.

Are you attempting to insult me? I don't believe I ever stated I'm against vaccines and think the OP should avoid them at all costs. That's her decision. I stated a dissenting viewpoint to topic without degrading or trying to argue with anyone. I believe that is allowed. 

I also believe the cdc.gov website is a real science website. That site has a 2014 report out that states adult aged 19-60 only have a 20.1% vaccination rate for the tdap, specifically. Later this report also states that adults with multiple physician contacts and health insurance fall at 23-88% not fully vaccinated as recommended. I believe that supports my viewpoint on lacking numbers for real herd immunity. 
 

Texafornian

@Becky012016 duh on the tetanus being part of the Tdap. It used to be separate. BUT, had I not had a kid I would not be up to date as many vaccines only last so many years. I also haven't had vaccines that are available now but not when I was a toddler (I'm 43).  I haven't had the chicken pox nor have I had the vaccine. 
Im just saying that I don't think being up to date is as wide spread as you believe...my mom didn't go to college and rarely sees a doc (definitely hasn't had a vaccine in YEARS). 

RedBreast35

@mrsmgsee to your question about why a parent wouldn't want their vaccinated child to avoid non vaccinated children- like all medicines or treatments, vaccines aren't 100% effective.  I personally wouldn't want to risk even a small chance of my child catching a preventable illness. And even though non-vaccinated children aren't necessarily walking around dripping with preventable diseases, they are more susceptible to them, and therefore more likely to transmit them.  It's a risk that doesn't need to be taken, imo.
eta I understand that there are children who are unable to receive vaccines for medical reasons, but those children have been in public for years.  It's the newer, increased risk when parents make the decision not to vaccinate instead of it being a medical necessity that bothers me.

hjphillips

ashley2824 said:

@hjphillips your H won't need to get a booster so soon if it's only been less than 2 years. I think It's good for at least 5 years 

They are good for 5-10 years. He didn't have the booster last pregnancy. I did. His was still up to date, and now is not, and that is why I stated he will be getting the booster this time around. 

mrsmarygs

Texafornian said:

@mrsmgsee my DD is up to date but I did everything spread out over the first two years. Instead of doing say four fax on one visit, I split it over two visits just so as not to inundate her little body all at once. Still met the recommended time line etc and she was good to go for school.
Main thing is...just make sure your kiddo is healthy the day you get the vaccines (so they aren't immunocompromised). That actually kickstarted my spacing because I had to postpone twice do to a fever. 

Did your insurance cover this? I've heard that if you space them out instead of clustering them, you have to pay for each shot out of pocket. 

awildrose

mrsmgsee said:

Texafornian said:

@mrsmgsee my DD is up to date but I did everything spread out over the first two years. Instead of doing say four fax on one visit, I split it over two visits just so as not to inundate her little body all at once. Still met the recommended time line etc and she was good to go for school.
Main thing is...just make sure your kiddo is healthy the day you get the vaccines (so they aren't immunocompromised). That actually kickstarted my spacing because I had to postpone twice do to a fever. 

Did your insurance cover this? I've heard that if you space them out instead of clustering them, you have to pay for each shot out of pocket. 

No, insurance still covers it. But you may just see a nurse instead of the dr when you get the others. 

Becky012016

awildrose said:

Becky012016 said:

awildrose said:

lmc929 said:

awildrose said:

Again, do what you're comfortable with. Your health decision for you and your children and simply for you and your children. 

This is not true - there is something called herd immunity. You vaccinating yourself and your children can help prevent unnecessary illness (or death) of someone who is unable to get vaccinated for medical reasons or because they are too young to get the vaccine themselves. 

There is a reason we no longer see polio and its not because a few people got the vaccine - it is because the masses did. 

ETA: Lurking from June 17

I agree with you to an extent. And I don't wish to argue. However, a vast number of adults have not stayed up to date on boosters. The percentage needed for herd immunity is much higher than real, whole population vaccine rates. We are no where near true herd immunity standards.

I do believe all medical decisions are private, but I do get where you're coming from. Again, I'm not looking for a debate. 

Not sure of your source here, but where I live people who go to their doctor yearly are offered any and all boosters they need. All the insurance plans around here require annual physicals and give free vaccinations.  Most everyone I know is up to date for all their vaccinations.  Although I don't live in the land of pseudoscience and  Dr. Jenny McCarthy.

Are you attempting to insult me? I don't believe I ever stated I'm against vaccines and think the OP should avoid them at all costs. That's her decision. I stated a dissenting viewpoint to topic without degrading or trying to argue with anyone. I believe that is allowed. 

I also believe the cdc.gov website is a real science website. That site has a 2014 report out that states adult aged 19-60 only have a 20.1% vaccination rate for the tdap, specifically. Later this report also states that adults with multiple physician contacts and health insurance fall at 23-88% not fully vaccinated as recommended. I believe that supports my viewpoint on lacking numbers for real herd immunity. 
 

Nope. Just usually people who state your opinion are followers of pseudoscience and still believe vaccines cause autism.  I read the report you're citing and it states the vaccination rates are up for tdap.  It also states there's definite room for improvement in vaccination rates for adults.  Children, luckily have very high rates of being fully vaccinated and are very close to herd immunity numbers. https://www.teachunicef.org/sites/default/files/Data_Analysis.pdf  Adults need to do a better job of protecting others by making sure they have all the shots they need and alluded to in the report you discussed. 

rkstro2

*May Lurker*

For those of you considering "spacing vaccines out" you may want to consider reading this from the American Academy of Pediatrics.  It includes all of its sources with citations. 

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/1/e164

There isn't any evidence that spacing out or a delayed vaccine schedule is helpful (or has less risk of adverse reaction from vaccine). 

awildrose

Becky012016 said:

awildrose said:

Becky012016 said:

awildrose said:

lmc929 said:

awildrose said:

Again, do what you're comfortable with. Your health decision for you and your children and simply for you and your children. 

This is not true - there is something called herd immunity. You vaccinating yourself and your children can help prevent unnecessary illness (or death) of someone who is unable to get vaccinated for medical reasons or because they are too young to get the vaccine themselves. 

There is a reason we no longer see polio and its not because a few people got the vaccine - it is because the masses did. 

ETA: Lurking from June 17

I agree with you to an extent. And I don't wish to argue. However, a vast number of adults have not stayed up to date on boosters. The percentage needed for herd immunity is much higher than real, whole population vaccine rates. We are no where near true herd immunity standards.

I do believe all medical decisions are private, but I do get where you're coming from. Again, I'm not looking for a debate. 

Not sure of your source here, but where I live people who go to their doctor yearly are offered any and all boosters they need. All the insurance plans around here require annual physicals and give free vaccinations.  Most everyone I know is up to date for all their vaccinations.  Although I don't live in the land of pseudoscience and  Dr. Jenny McCarthy.

Are you attempting to insult me? I don't believe I ever stated I'm against vaccines and think the OP should avoid them at all costs. That's her decision. I stated a dissenting viewpoint to topic without degrading or trying to argue with anyone. I believe that is allowed. 

I also believe the cdc.gov website is a real science website. That site has a 2014 report out that states adult aged 19-60 only have a 20.1% vaccination rate for the tdap, specifically. Later this report also states that adults with multiple physician contacts and health insurance fall at 23-88% not fully vaccinated as recommended. I believe that supports my viewpoint on lacking numbers for real herd immunity. 
 

Nope. Just usually people who state your opinion are followers of pseudoscience and still believe vaccines cause autism.  I read the report you're citing and it states the vaccination rates are up for tdap.  It also states there's definite room for improvement in vaccination rates for adults.  Children, luckily have very high rates of being fully vaccinated and are very close to herd immunity numbers. https://www.teachunicef.org/sites/default/files/Data_Analysis.pdf  Adults need to do a better job of protecting others by making sure they have all the shots they need and alluded to in the report you discussed. 

Well, you made quite an assumption about me- I don't believe vaccines cause autism, either. 

I agree with the report we're referencing. If the desire is to have true herd immunity numbers, the adults need to pick it up. However, I disagree with mandating and banning people from public spaces based on fear. (Which I know wasn't part of the OP question) Medical discussions should be private and individualized. I would support better vaccine development and research and pre-testing for possible adverse affects. I think the one size fits approach all isn't at all perfect and shouldn't be pushed on everyone without careful consideration. 

And with that.  Bowing out of this thread. I don't like internet arguements and don't want to start splitting hairs on a very complex subject. 

Texafornian

awildrose said:

mrsmgsee said:

Texafornian said:

@mrsmgsee my DD is up to date but I did everything spread out over the first two years. Instead of doing say four fax on one visit, I split it over two visits just so as not to inundate her little body all at once. Still met the recommended time line etc and she was good to go for school.
Main thing is...just make sure your kiddo is healthy the day you get the vaccines (so they aren't immunocompromised). That actually kickstarted my spacing because I had to postpone twice do to a fever. 

Did your insurance cover this? I've heard that if you space them out instead of clustering them, you have to pay for each shot out of pocket. 

No, insurance still covers it. But you may just see a nurse instead of the dr when you get the others. 

This.

Texafornian

@rkstro2 perhaps not, but there IS evidence supporting not getting the vaccines while the child is ill. Most docs will still do them if no fever is present but other symptoms such as cough/stuffy nose are...but they won't if fever is present. I spaced mine based on wanting a healthy child going into the appt. I think spacing is a matter of preference just as each pediatrician has different shot schedules (still getting them in by the proper age of course). Some docs do 15m appts while others don't etc. My doc in LA had a totally diff schedule for quite a few of the shots compared to my Houston doc. 

On a side note...observation...lots o' lurkers from other months on this thread! Must be an attractive topic...

mrs_tacos

All I have to add is this: we live in Southern California, an area with very high rate of whooping cough in infants and children. If you want to hold my child during the first year of their life, you will be vaccinated, and will have received the tdap booster. I have seen babies with whooping cough, I know a mother who lost her young child to it. I am not messing around with this. 

rkstro2

Texafornian said:

@rkstro2 perhaps not, but there IS evidence supporting not getting the vaccines while the child is ill. Most docs will still do them if no fever is present but other symptoms such as cough/stuffy nose are...but they won't if fever is present. I spaced mine based on wanting a healthy child going into the appt. I think spacing is a matter of preference just as each pediatrician has different shot schedules (still getting them in by the proper age of course). Some docs do 15m appts while others don't etc. My doc in LA had a totally diff schedule for quite a few of the shots compared to my Houston doc. 

On a side note...observation...lots o' lurkers from other months on this thread! Must be an attractive topic...

You are correct in saying that children don't get vaccines while febrile.  However, in a previous post you said: Instead of doing say four fax on one visit, I split it over two visits just so as not to inundate her little body all at once.

That is not the same as being forced to miss a vaccine due to acute illness.  My post was not criticizing one for skipping a vaccine for a medically sound reason.  I was providing information and evidence for those who believe they should spread out the vaccines for the reasons that are not medically sound. 

Texafornian

@rkstro2 you are correct. My child being ill is what started my delaying process. I chose to split them and space a few months apart in lieu of inundating her all at once in hopes of reducing reactions since she had been recently sick. Spacing is just a personal preference.

rkstro2

Thank you. 

lm45678

Lurking from June 16**


As a nurse, please get vaccinated! If not for your own children do it for all the immunocompromised kids who are unable to get vaccinated.

As a mother, I have a perfectly healthy 7 month old daughter and I received both TDap and the inactive Flu shot while pregnant.