Re: BFPs at various DPO. Of course, there are always exceptions. Statistically if close to 90% of pregnant women will turn a text at whatever dpo, that still leaves a little over 10% who won't. Totally. For reference, this particular chart doesn't show that drop below 10% until 21DPO! So while statistically the majority can turn a test by 13 or 14 dpo, that is by no means a hard rule, or will apply in every case.
I love this. I think there's also a disclaimer on the site (or if not, there should be) that these are self-reported stats, and not every woman knows exactly when her O date was. I bring this up because I was like "21DPO and 8% are still negative??" but I think those are the cases of mistaken O dates.
Me: late 30s | H: early 30s TTC #1 since April 2015 RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016 IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal Polyp removed May 2017 FET May 2017 - BFP! Baby boy born 2/2/18
@dimsum4everyone Thanks for being so cool and understanding about this. We all are scared to test - many girls just give up testing at all because AF has never "been late" and they don't want to see ANOTHER BFN. So I second everything @antoto said and I'm glad you see our perspective! You earned coolness in our books and are totally welcome back if for some reason this cycle doesn't work out!
@swimsister OP sounded confident in her cycle length and LP length since she is doing cm, cp, BBT. If she had said, sometimes I have a 16 day lp so I'm waiting, that would be totally cool and understandable. It was the silliness of knowing you have a 14-15 day lp, and refusing to test when you're late because you're scared or whatever that I was addressing. I didn't mean to imply everyone has a 14 day lp and that anyone over that automatically gets a bfp.
Me: 27 years old DH: 27 years old Type 1 Diabetes since 2001, MTHFR hetero A1298T Dogs: Raider 4 yrs, Dex 4 yrs
Married in July 2014
TTC #1 since late Feb 2016
BFP #1 3/29/16 MMC: 5/5/16 BFP #2 7/6/16 SCH, D&C 8/4/16 BFP #3 12/26/16 EDD: 9/6/17 My Chart / My Diabetes/Pregnancy Blog My Type 1/TTC/Pregnancy Podcast: Juicebox Podcast Episode 118 A1Cs: 1/12/16 6.7% 5/25/16 6.0% 11/2/16 6.1% 3/22/16 5.8% 4/27/17 5.4% 6/13/17 5.3% "Sugar Fancy Tutu"
@lulu1180 sorry you're heading towards the testing route but hopefully you get some answers @sugargirl1019 gurrrrrl....I'm about 5dpo and also already so emotional since yesterday wtf?!! @hartmich so am I not the only one who starts envisioning writing up my grad post basically every time I have sex in the FW and every weird symptom I get thereafter?? (*rolling eyes at self*)
want to respond more but have to ho early because BIL is a dick lol more later...
Month/Cycle: 6/6 TTCAL
CD/DPO: 16/5
Timing: -2, 0, +1
Testing: uncertain
R/R: Going for OB appointment for 245 but BIL wants to meet at noon so we can give him our presents to take up to the family....we TOLD HIM about the appointment. We live half an hour from town. So there's no time to go back home after really but now we will have two and a half hours to kill before appointment and I don't get Christmas money until tomorrow so I can't even go shopping. So annoyed!!!
Q/CS: I think I'm done temping for this cycle
GTKY: What is the strangest gift you have ever received? Can't think of one right now! Be back later
@LuND I feel your pain with the smoking DH. I quit more than 5 years ago, but he's still puffing away. On his days off from work, almost every week, he will try to quit and not smoke, but once he's back at work and something irritates him, he's back at it. The more I talk about it with him, the more annoyed he gets, so I'm just hoping he can finally make the decision himself. Hopefully YH will quit ASAP!
@Breath_Easy92 Any suggestions you have would be welcome! He wants to quit, but he uses smoking as a coping mechanism for anxiety, and it's a vicious cycle.
@MrsVP614 & @Breath_Easy92 The tobacco battle is never fun. My DH understands, but also gets annoyed when I nag him about it. I'm not sure if you saw in my other posts, but he recently had a SA with very poor results, so of course quitting smoking is the first recommendation. He uses stress as an excuse.... but millions of people deal with stress on a daily basis without resorting to smoking.
@LuND I'm a therapist and I have worked with a lot of clients who report smoking as an (unhealthy) coping skill. I always tell them it's not the cigarette that's actually helping but rather the act of practicing deep, paced breathing that one does when inhaling and exhaling a cigarette. Just something to think about. Maybe cutting back on cigarettes and replacing a few throughout the day by practicing about 5-7 minutes (length of time it takes to smoke a cigarette) of deep breathing. GL to YH!
@LuND it's so hard especially with how addicting nicotine is, but I think there's definitely insight in making the connection of the deep breathing decreasing the stress rather than the cigarettes! So if he feels stress is the biggest piece than hopefully it can atleast help reframe the power of the connection with cigarettes. They also have a lot of new smoking cessation programs through hospital systems now!
@dimsum4everyone Thanks for being so cool and understanding about this. We all are scared to test - many girls just give up testing at all because AF has never "been late" and they don't want to see ANOTHER BFN. So I second everything @antoto said and I'm glad you see our perspective! You earned coolness in our books and are totally welcome back if for some reason this cycle doesn't work out!
@swimsister OP sounded confident in her cycle length and LP length since she is doing cm, cp, BBT. If she had said, sometimes I have a 16 day lp so I'm waiting, that would be totally cool and understandable. It was the silliness of knowing you have a 14-15 day lp, and refusing to test when you're late because you're scared or whatever that I was addressing. I didn't mean to imply everyone has a 14 day lp and that anyone over that automatically gets a bfp.
A-freakin-men
FFTC- I have pregnancy test that are close to expiring because I never, ever, ever test. I actually *would* be one of those that is 17+DPO and not testing. But that's because I am bitter and would assume error in O-date-determination or something. But then again, I might test earlier because soooooomeonnnnnne would probably hold me down and force me to pee *cough* @Sugargirl1019 *cough*
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3 losses in 2015 Met with OBGYN in January 2016 Me: all clear, H: OAT November 2016: HSG = All
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#1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17 December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC) Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA) FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018 May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus" FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo. BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019 Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two! Lost Baby A 02 July 2018 Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018 Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
Next Up:
TTC Naturally, possibly IUIs for remainder of 2018. ER#2 ~Jan 2019
Not that I think vaping is the healthiest thing, but I do think people who vape probably have better SA results than smokers. If your H is having a REALLY hard time with cutting cold turkey that might be a good alternative.
@ColoradoHiker I just replaced my thermometer because it was taking a looooong time (90s also!) to beep!
I'm so ticked at H's brothers right now. Now the one we were supposed to meet around noon changed it to 7am tomorrow...like that's convenient. Im asking H to request 9am so I can at least go shopping afterwards! Then the other one said he had work for H since his other job shut down because of snow; they even planned the days last week. Then when he talked to him on the weekend BIL said he didn't accept any more orders or something so now he doesn't need H. That's money we now won't have. He'll have a $0 cheque this Friday and then a tiny cheque with just the stats on it next pay day. I told him to save up for Xmas because basically the same thing happened last year and he assured me we were fine but based on his reaction this morning, it seems clear we are not Now he's grumpy and saying he hates this time of year and it makes me sad. More nervous about our appointment now.... sorry for DD but thanks for letting me vent!
@LuND and @MrsVP614 other than making up your mind to do it one of the most important things to figure out before you quit is what triggers you to want to do it is awesome they both know stress is a major trigger. ( personally for me when I quit I found that I mainly liked the social aspect it gave me). So the deep breathing suggestion could be a really good method for them or anything else small they find relaxing. Also I always suggest trying to go on short walks while you would normally be outside smoking (I know it's cold at least where I live) because it helps combat the depression and weight gain that can come with quitting. There's also a lot of apps that update you on how much money you saved by quitting and the health benefits which I've noticed help keep some people motivated. But I think am important thing to realize is that it is more addictive then non smokers can imagine (adverage amount of tries it takes to actually quit range from 8-30 depending on literature) and some people just need the help of a doctor or someone who specializes tomake a plan of action that can't enable them to be successful and there's nothing wrong with that. There's a lot of tools that you can discuss with a doctor like chantex and similar. Also I really like patches for a controlled step down withdrawal that also helps break the habit of the action. (A graduated withdrawal can really help someone stick to the plan rather than a big shock to the system.) But trust me they will need a lot of patience but as they are able to increase their commitment to quitting celebrate with them on their mile stones and be a cheerleader for them that's the best role you can play for them even though it's frustrating. I don't want to go in to a lot more detail because I can talk all day about this and there's a lot more people on the thread than just me but feel free to private message me.
On smoking: as someone who only has observational experience, I think that our society lacks any other good 'excuse' to step outside and away from things when you're at a breaking point. For example: a person gets into a heated email exchange and they want to get away from everyone. Saying that they need to go out and smoke? Totally acceptable. Saying that they need to step outside for a breather? Whoa! What's wrong with that person?? If you were to just walk outside your work and lean up against the wall for five minutes without a cigarette or a phone, you would feel really weird (and people would definitely give you side-eye). I think we need to find ways to get that without smoking. When I was working in restaurants and that was the only way to get a break, I had a cigarette I kept in my apron that I had braced with a piece of wire and taped it up do I could pull it out and ask for a smoke break.
Me: 34 DH: 38 Married: June 2011 TTC since Feb 2016 BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16 BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18
@lulu118 I know that fear... I am very worried I may also go off on someone for insensitive remarks. I plan to use TB as my outlet lol feel free to PM me if it all gets to be too much...been there. (My FIL likes to "kindly remind" me of my age in regards to childbearing...at the dinner table...with the whole family present.)
@kiki75@Breath_Easy92 absolutely agree. I've worked in multiple situations where smokers took many "smoke breaks" throughout their day, and the non-smokers only took lunch breaks, and it was perceived as completely normal.
My DH works in the oil field, and essentially has complete control of his own schedule. He's outside or in his work truck the entire day, and is therefore able smoke anytime without anyone questioning him.
*ETA I'm just still so hurt and upset by his relapse. And, now with the SA results I'm feeling very helpless and not in control. If I could quit for him, I would, but that's not how it works. So, essentially a very big part of our potential future fertility rests on his shoulders, and there's not much I can do about it. I've never been a smoker, so I can't entirely relate.... so I'm having a hard time being sympathetic. And, he doesn't like to talk about it a lot, he prefers to deal with it himself, so I'm often stuck in the dark trying to not be suspicious of him. He's used Chantix before with success, but he hasn't tried any other aids.
@LuND I am soooo behind on the posts today but your last post made me want to give you creepy internet hugs. It must be really difficult to feel like this is out of your control and you can "fix" it. I know it probably doesn't help but try to focus on what you can control right now and know we are here for you to vent to!
@kiki75 Amen! When I was 18 I worked at a 7-11 and we literally were not permitted to take breaks unless we were outside smoking. Did I know labour laws at 18? No. Did I consider starting to smoke? Yes I did.
@LuND I'm sorry that would be very frustrating. And I'm sure additionally to fertility your care about his health too which makes it harder to care when you feel like he doesn't. (Correct me if I'm wrong in all this that's just how I would feel) honesty he has to want to commit to it but here's a website that we direct people to a lot at the hospital for "supporting your quitter" don't give up on him just yet also the first of the the year is coming up it's a popular time to quit!
Okay this is a very late update because I'm west coast so I'll update in tomorrow's TWW, too but thought I'd better now in case anyone was waiting Shockingly, his SA was "normal". And I feel like an ass for even posting that because y'all know about his unhealthy habits (and I'm ashamed to post it with what @Lund is going through )
It's not that I wanted there to be anything wrong with it, but him caring about his health a bit more would not be a bad thing. I HAAAAATE that he smokes, even if it's "sometimes". And the only reason we're together is that he lied about it on his dating profile lol So in a way I'm glad because I love him to death but I'm also pissed, if that makes sense.
I honestly cried a bit when we got home, I said to him it's not fair that I worry that practically every little thing I do will affect my fertility and he can do whatever the fuck he wants
Anyways, OB is sending me for bloodwork on cd21 (is cd23 okay?? cd21 is Xmas), and for an HSG but I have to call on CD1 for an appointment. Beyond that he recommends Clomid, so we'll see.
THANKS, ALL!
ETA: I was very nervous but saw a rainbow on the way to the appointment and kind of felt like it was the universe telling me everything will be fine...trying to hang on to that feeling
@rainbowturtles *hugs* well I'm glad that your H's SA was normal, but I'm sorry for your frustration, which is understandable. I think cd 23 is okay for bloodwork as long as they know it's 23 not 21.
As for the Clomid I recommend EXTREME caution with that ish. If you start actually treating for IF then you really, really should not stay with an OB - get thee to the RE. Almost no REs give out Clomid anymore and do Femara or Gonal-F instead. Clomid has vicious side effects and can cause horrible cysts.
Thanks @antoto Thanks to you ladies, I am aware of this and mentioned it to H on the way home and he was all surprised because OB only casually mentioned it lol I think the thing is that in Canada it costs money to go to an infertility specialist? That's what he mentioned, anyways. I will defs not go on Clomid lightly, without talk and research at least, mostly thanks to all your knowledge!!! PS: he thought he'd already sent me for bloodwork so if I hadn't mentioned it he wouldn't even have sent me lol
@rainbowturtles big hugs lady. It's so rough when medical tests don't validate your concerns. I can totally understand your frustration and think your feelings about it are completely reasonable.
@Breath_Easy92 absolutely. My biggest concern is for his health, but that doesn't seem to get through to him since it's not an "immediate" consequence. So, since the immediate fertility consequences are undeniable at this point, it packs a little more punch for him.
@Brooklyngirl6 I can't imagine trying to wrangle kids the week before Christmas break... may the force be with you! And, carrot vibrator..... that's amazing
@hartmich sorry for impending AF but I love getting grocery store gift cards! I'll always use them and they free up money for fun stuff.
@lulu1180 I'm so glad you had a normal cycle, but I totally get being super disappointed. If you drink, enjoy all the booze for Christmas.
@WillRunForWine21 hahaha, I love that you and DH hide the creepy sculpture around the house to scare each other. Makes me think of the Friends episode with Phoebe's painting with the girl coming out of the frame.
@JulesDP oh man. I understand wanting to be more creative and personal than giving a gift card, but not if the next best option is holiday themed cocktail napkins and paper plates
@jess0211 WUT. Random, unwarranted baby clothes!?!?!? I think you win the GTKY.
@juliebeannn yikes, boiler issues are no fun! And, props to you for convincing DH to call a professional. Boilers are a special beast.... my DH used to do commercial HVAC, and I vividly recall boilers not being DIY friendly.
Major props for pulling out pics of Gladys and Glyennis (sp?)!!!!
@antoto will you be at work or at home when you get a call from your dr? If at home, maybe I wouldn't test, but I would if I was at work waiting for a call. I'll be waiting on pins and needles for your results!!!
@rainbowturtles Yay!! Glad to hear your H's SA was normal! I totally get your frustration though.
Me: 31 DH: 32 Dating since: 11/17/2001 Married: 9/26/2009 TTC: June 2016
Sorry for posting and running. I'm on mobile so I can't tag everyone without scrolling back and forth. I will just wait for a few more temps but I agree I probably O today and will see that after 3 more day. I guess that means ANOTHER month with an 8 day LP.
@rainbowturtles Hugs, sorry you are dealing with all these mixed feelings. You are perfectly reasonable to feel this way, right now. But I do think it's a positive (unfair as it is) for the ultimate goal of a baby. my friend.
@antoto it definitely is a positive and I hope that I didn't come off as ungrateful! It really is fabulous news When I mentioned that it's hard because it feels like maybe there's something wrong with me, then, DH said "no, it's just waiting until it's perfect". It was really sweet. I'm sure everything will work out There really are a lot of mixed emotions surrounding this stuff tho, as I know you all know
Lurking fromWTO @rainbowturtles hooray that DHs SA was normal! That is great news. As for the blood work, I'm guessing CD21 blood work is the 7dpo blood work... so if you didn't O on CD 14 than CD21 would not be the right day to test, I would Check with your OB. Also I second @antoto I would be very cautious about taking fertility meds without heavy monitoring. OBs keep you pregnant but REs get you that way. Hugs it's ok to feel all the feels
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@rainbowturtles the way my doctor does it, all the big tests are run on "Peak+7" which would be cd21 for the "average" 14 day FP, just like @wabash15 said. I agree with pps, not only mention its actually cd23, but check your O-date (assuming you believe you ovulated.) That way toy can tell them what dpo you are, too! Heck, if you ovulated on cd16, then cd23 really WOULD be the "right" day, so long as you let them know you ovulated later than cd14, so they aren't expecting your numbers to be further along in your LP.
Ahhhh @wabash15 (and @BusinessWife !!) you're so smart! I wasn't even thinking dpo but that makes so sense. I O'd early this cycle and I'm fairly certain 7dpo is on Thursday. I can probably get in for bloodwork on Friday! Thank you so much!
@Breath_Easy92 Thanks for the tips! He's been motivated by the app in the past that shows the money savings. He definitely needs to treat his anxiety and stress to tackle this. @LuND Hopefully the New Year will help motivate our husbands! I know what you're going through! @rainbowturtles Good news on the SA, but I can follow why no answers are hard too! FX for your other tests!
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TTC #1 since April 2015
RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016
IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN
IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal
Polyp removed May 2017
FET May 2017 - BFP!
Baby boy born 2/2/18
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Married: June 2011
TTC since Feb 2016
BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16
BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP
BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18
@swimsister OP sounded confident in her cycle length and LP length since she is doing cm, cp, BBT. If she had said, sometimes I have a 16 day lp so I'm waiting, that would be totally cool and understandable. It was the silliness of knowing you have a 14-15 day lp, and refusing to test when you're late because you're scared or whatever that I was addressing. I didn't mean to imply everyone has a 14 day lp and that anyone over that automatically gets a bfp.
Type 1 Diabetes since 2001, MTHFR hetero A1298T
Dogs: Raider 4 yrs, Dex 4 yrs
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BFP #3 12/26/16 EDD: 9/6/17
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3/22/16 5.8%
4/27/17 5.4%
6/13/17 5.3%
"Sugar Fancy Tutu"
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Married 6/11/16
TTC Since 6/2016
12/2016 RE appt; 1/2017 SA & HSG results - all normal
3/2017 Dx Hyperprolactinemia; 5/2017 Prolactin levels normal; 8/2017 Low Ovarian Reserve
8/2017 TTA for personal reasons; 10/2017 NTNP; 12/2017 Re-start TTC
7/2018 Clomid+IUI
11/2018 Letrozole+TI
12/2018 Letrozole+IUI
2/2019 NTNP
5/2019 Stopping all TTC efforts; living Childfree
@sugargirl1019 gurrrrrl....I'm about 5dpo and also already so emotional since yesterday wtf?!!
@hartmich so am I not the only one who starts envisioning writing up my grad post basically every time I have sex in the FW and every weird symptom I get thereafter?? (*rolling eyes at self*)
want to respond more but have to ho early because BIL is a dick lol more later...
Can't think of one right now! Be back later
@Breath_Easy92 Any suggestions you have would be welcome! He wants to quit, but he uses smoking as a coping mechanism for anxiety, and it's a vicious cycle.
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Married: 10.15.16
DS BD: 8.20.17
TTC #2 1.1.19
BFP #2 7.3.19
EDD #2 3.13.20
Any tips or suggestions are welcome!
Married: 2/1/2012
TTC #1 since August 2016
DH SA Dec 2016: Low count (11.7 mil total motile), 5% morphology, 73% motility
Blood work June 2017: AMH 1.1 (ugh), FSH 8.4, LH: 5.2, estradiol 28 pg/ML, progesterone 7.4
HSG July 2017: tubes clear
BFP 7/24/17 - EDD 4/5/2018
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Married: 2/1/2012
TTC #1 since August 2016
DH SA Dec 2016: Low count (11.7 mil total motile), 5% morphology, 73% motility
Blood work June 2017: AMH 1.1 (ugh), FSH 8.4, LH: 5.2, estradiol 28 pg/ML, progesterone 7.4
HSG July 2017: tubes clear
BFP 7/24/17 - EDD 4/5/2018
FFTC- I have pregnancy test that are close to expiring because I never, ever, ever test. I actually *would* be one of those that is 17+DPO and not testing. But that's because I am bitter and would assume error in O-date-determination or something. But then again, I might test earlier because soooooomeonnnnnne would probably hold me down and force me to pee *cough* @Sugargirl1019 *cough*
Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI (count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low progesterone
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BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015
BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015
BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day
BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018
BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
Met with OBGYN in January 2016
Me: all clear, H: OAT
November 2016: HSG = All Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt #1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17
December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization
January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC)
Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA)
FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018
May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus"
FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo.
BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019
Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two!
Lost Baby A 02 July 2018
Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018
Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
ER#2 ~Jan 2019
I'm so ticked at H's brothers right now. Now the one we were supposed to meet around noon changed it to 7am tomorrow...like that's convenient. Im asking H to request 9am so I can at least go shopping afterwards!
Then the other one said he had work for H since his other job shut down because of snow; they even planned the days last week. Then when he talked to him on the weekend BIL said he didn't accept any more orders or something so now he doesn't need H. That's money we now won't have. He'll have a $0 cheque this Friday and then a tiny cheque with just the stats on it next pay day. I told him to save up for Xmas because basically the same thing happened last year and he assured me we were fine but based on his reaction this morning, it seems clear we are not
More nervous about our appointment now....
sorry for DD but thanks for letting me vent!
Married: June 2011
TTC since Feb 2016
BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16
BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP
BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18
My DH works in the oil field, and essentially has complete control of his own schedule. He's outside or in his work truck the entire day, and is therefore able smoke anytime without anyone questioning him.
*ETA I'm just still so hurt and upset by his relapse. And, now with the SA results I'm feeling very helpless and not in control. If I could quit for him, I would, but that's not how it works. So, essentially a very big part of our potential future fertility rests on his shoulders, and there's not much I can do about it. I've never been a smoker, so I can't entirely relate.... so I'm having a hard time being sympathetic. And, he doesn't like to talk about it a lot, he prefers to deal with it himself, so I'm often stuck in the dark trying to not be suspicious of him. He's used Chantix before with success, but he hasn't tried any other aids.
Married: 2/1/2012
TTC #1 since August 2016
DH SA Dec 2016: Low count (11.7 mil total motile), 5% morphology, 73% motility
Blood work June 2017: AMH 1.1 (ugh), FSH 8.4, LH: 5.2, estradiol 28 pg/ML, progesterone 7.4
HSG July 2017: tubes clear
BFP 7/24/17 - EDD 4/5/2018
Married: 04/05/15
TTC since: 02/16/16
On another note, this definitely has to be one of the more popular TWW posts in a while. That new poster really shook things up!
Shockingly, his SA was "normal". And I feel like an ass for even posting that because y'all know about his unhealthy habits (and I'm ashamed to post it with what @Lund is going through
It's not that I wanted there to be anything wrong with it, but him caring about his health a bit more would not be a bad thing. I HAAAAATE that he smokes, even if it's "sometimes". And the only reason we're together is that he lied about it on his dating profile lol So in a way I'm glad because I love him to death but I'm also pissed, if that makes sense.
I honestly cried a bit when we got home, I said to him it's not fair that I worry that practically every little thing I do will affect my fertility and he can do whatever the fuck he wants
Anyways, OB is sending me for bloodwork on cd21 (is cd23 okay?? cd21 is Xmas), and for an HSG but I have to call on CD1 for an appointment. Beyond that he recommends Clomid, so we'll see.
THANKS, ALL!
ETA: I was very nervous but saw a rainbow on the way to the appointment and kind of felt like it was the universe telling me everything will be fine...trying to hang on to that feeling
As for the Clomid I recommend EXTREME caution with that ish. If you start actually treating for IF then you really, really should not stay with an OB - get thee to the RE. Almost no REs give out Clomid anymore and do Femara or Gonal-F instead. Clomid has vicious side effects and can cause horrible cysts.
PS: he thought he'd already sent me for bloodwork so if I hadn't mentioned it he wouldn't even have sent me lol
@Breath_Easy92 absolutely. My biggest concern is for his health, but that doesn't seem to get through to him since it's not an "immediate" consequence. So, since the immediate fertility consequences are undeniable at this point, it packs a little more punch for him.
Married: 2/1/2012
TTC #1 since August 2016
DH SA Dec 2016: Low count (11.7 mil total motile), 5% morphology, 73% motility
Blood work June 2017: AMH 1.1 (ugh), FSH 8.4, LH: 5.2, estradiol 28 pg/ML, progesterone 7.4
HSG July 2017: tubes clear
BFP 7/24/17 - EDD 4/5/2018
@antoto will you be at work or at home when you get a call from your dr? If at home, maybe I wouldn't test, but I would if I was at work waiting for a call. I'll be waiting on pins and needles for your results!!!
@rainbowturtles Yay!! Glad to hear your H's SA was normal! I totally get your frustration though.
Dating since: 11/17/2001
Married: 9/26/2009
TTC: June 2016
EDD: 5/14/2018
@rainbowturtles hooray that DHs SA was normal! That is great news. As for the blood work, I'm guessing CD21 blood work is the 7dpo blood work... so if you didn't O on CD 14 than CD21 would not be the right day to test, I would Check with your OB. Also I second @antoto I would be very cautious about taking fertility meds without heavy monitoring. OBs keep you pregnant but REs get you that way. Hugs it's ok to feel all the feels
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
@LuND Hopefully the New Year will help motivate our husbands! I know what you're going through!
@rainbowturtles Good news on the SA, but I can follow why no answers are hard too! FX for your other tests!
Married: 10.15.16
DS BD: 8.20.17
TTC #2 1.1.19
BFP #2 7.3.19
EDD #2 3.13.20