December 2016 Moms

PP Healing & Wellness 12.5

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Re: PP Healing & Wellness 12.5

  • @gowenc this does sound like baby working with your body to get your milk to come in. Cluster feeding can feel ridiculous but it doesn't last. All the things @maamawaabangi said 
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  • Thank you ladies. It has been a long night, glad to hear it's all normal.
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  • @gowenc Hugs to you! It's a steep learning curve when it comes to reading baby cues, it seems...
  • @gowenc
    Also know that all that time he's getting on your chest (bare/skin) will help you establish a great milk supply. It will help
    regulate him and you to each others needs. I'd settle down in bed or on your couch today and just "be"... rest lots and let people serve you if they are available. Nurse the day away. Sorry you had a long night! 

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  • . How many weeks are you PP? How are you feeling... physically, emotionally, as a mama to your sweet babe? 2 weeks PP on Friday. Physically I'm healing great, still some soreness but minimal bleeding. Emotionally I'm feeling a tad better but still sad and have periods of crying.

    2. Let's talk boobs, breastfeeding, pumping or bottle/formula feeding this week ... What's happening in your world with these things? How is your little one doing adjusting to the method of feeding you are doing? What is your joy and struggle with it? I do night feedings with formula because he seems to sleep better and for longer stretches. I breastfeed/pump during the day but not sure if I'm producing a lot - i know with PCOS and thyroid issues I've been told I may not have the best supply. Have a lactation appt tomorrow so we'll see. I honestly wouldnt mind doing formula.

    3. Any questions, advice or resources to share in regard to feeding and PP care? to those of you who are pumping, how mych are you getting? I'm getting about 125ml a day if that (2.5oz + maybe 50ml if i pump after each feeding). I feel like I should be making more than that by now. I'd love to have enough to store but am barely getting 2 feedings a day worth in pumped breastmilk. 
    Met DH - 9/2003
    Dating - 9/18/2012
    Married - 8/16/2014
    NTNP - 7/2014-5/2015 
    TTC #1 - 5/2015 (CP October @ 4w2d)
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    HSG - All clear, ectopic kidney didn't affect uterus (yay!)
    CT Adrenal Scan - no tumors! :D
    SA - sperm count excellent, 2% Morphology
    March/April IUI scheduled -  surprise BFP w/ help of Progesterone - 3/18/2016
    Beta #1 @ 11dpo - 45.7 #2 @ 14dpo - 163 #3 @ 18dpo - 997 #4 @ 21dpo - 3799 :D
    EDD 12/1 based on O, 11/28 per Ob/Gyn (but he's wrong lol).

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  • @juliehollz13 I have an oversupply -which I am ok with- but I get at least 2oz each breast per pump. After going 7 hrs overnight I got 12oz this morning.


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  • @juliehollz13 I'm with you on so many things! I do formula at night as well but have had enough breastmilk through pumping for all day and evening feedings. My supply is coming up a little bit after switching to pumping every three hours instead of two. Right now I'm getting about 2-2.5oz total each session. BF isn't working for us and pumping is hard. I'm wanting to go to formula lately as well but DH asked me to try to keep pumping until I go back to work. 
  • @juliehollz13 are you skipping pumping totally at night when offering the formula? I can't point to a source but I've read many times that MOTN pumps have a strong impact on supply. Should you want to continue nursing/pumping - it might be worth a try.  
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  • Yes im not pumping at night (im too exhausted and it takes forever to get what i do get out). In the morning i pump 2.5oz easy and then the redt of the day i produce small amounts per pump :( i have pcos and am hypothyroid, so i was told i may not produce a lot but this kind of bums me out. 
    Met DH - 9/2003
    Dating - 9/18/2012
    Married - 8/16/2014
    NTNP - 7/2014-5/2015 
    TTC #1 - 5/2015 (CP October @ 4w2d)
    *PCOS/Hypothyroid/Ectopic Kidney/High DHEA-S*
    HSG - All clear, ectopic kidney didn't affect uterus (yay!)
    CT Adrenal Scan - no tumors! :D
    SA - sperm count excellent, 2% Morphology
    March/April IUI scheduled -  surprise BFP w/ help of Progesterone - 3/18/2016
    Beta #1 @ 11dpo - 45.7 #2 @ 14dpo - 163 #3 @ 18dpo - 997 #4 @ 21dpo - 3799 :D
    EDD 12/1 based on O, 11/28 per Ob/Gyn (but he's wrong lol).

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  • @juliehollz13 sorry  :/. If formula feeding makes your life less stressful and you aren't hell bent on nursing/pumping there's absolutely nothing wrong with going that route.  The best way is the way that works best for your family.  
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  • You guys... I literally need a group hug.  The hits keep on coming - I have mastitis now.  I started feeling flu like yesterday and having stabbing breast pain before bed last night.  Waiting to hear back from my doc, but I had a case around 6 months with DS when I went back to work and changed my pumping routine.  I know what this feels like and it's terrible.  I'm ready to throw my pump out the window, forget my nursing dreams and go to formula exclusively.  If all this happened with a singleton I would have by now but the sheer cost of two on formula has me hanging on by a thread... free food vs. $300-$400/month.  I've cried numerous times in the past 12 hours.  So overwhelmed by these struggles on top of having two newborns and a DS.  
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  • @DiFazette ... so many hugs to you. I'll send some prayers up for you. I just wish i could do more! :: hugs ::
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  • @DiFazette - {{{huuuuuuge hugs}}} You're doing amazing, you Are amazing and you are going to get through all this!!!
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  • Sending hugs @DiFazette - you're doing a great job and I'm sorry you can't catch a break.
  • 1. How many weeks are you PP? How are you feeling... physically, emotionally, as a mama to your sweet babe?
    1 week 

    2. Let's talk boobs, breastfeeding, pumping or bottle/formula feeding this week ... What's happening in your world with these things? How is your little one doing adjusting to the method of feeding you are doing? What is your joy and struggle with it?
    We started off exclusively BF for the first 5 days. He was feeding multiple times an hour and basically cried when ever he was awake unless he was eating. Once we got to the ped appt, the doctor saw how "hangry" (actually unexaminable) he was and said he's not getting enough milk. Doc recommended to give him a sample formula bottle in the office. It calmed him down and he has been a new baby ever since! I got the ok to begin pumping (that's what my plan was til my full 3wk supply came in). I've been feeding BM in the daytime & formula at night. Mom & son are both happier with this way of life than exclusively BF. 

    3. Any questions, advice or resources to share in regard to feeding and PP care? 
    @juliehollz13Much like you, I refuse to pump overnight. I'm getting about 2oz total/pump. With my lifestyle I'm only getting to pump 3-4x/day. Not sure if that's going to effect my future supply once he eats more per feeding, but we'll see.

    @DiFazette ugh! Sorry to hear that. I definitely understand why you would want to BF vs formula feed. If you do need to switch to formula, you can probably ask your ped for samples. They gave me a box of 8 pre-made formula bottles, 4 single powder packs, & 3 tubs of formula. It's a start.
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  • @DiFazette so many hugs, I'm sorry :( 
    I don't have experience with any of that, so I have no practical advice for you other than to take each day as it comes and hopefully tomorrow will be better <3
  • I realized I started posting questions before I'd actually responded to the initial questions. I blame my hormones and lack of sleep.

    1. How many weeks are you PP? How are you feeling... physically, emotionally, as a mama to your sweet babe?
    4 days. Physical recovery is going pretty well, I think. My bleeding isn't too bad, pain is manageable. I'm trying to take it easy but it gets hard sometimes, I definitely keep having to remind myself not to overdo it. Emotionally I am kind of a wreck, I've been crying all morning about various things, including....

    2. Let's talk boobs, breastfeeding, pumping or bottle/formula feeding this week ... What's happening in your world with these things? How is your little one doing adjusting to the method of feeding you are doing? What is your joy and struggle with it?
    We're breastfeeding, but my milk hasn't really come in yet - at least I don't think it has? It has changed color and is more milky white, but I have not experienced the engorgement that seems to accompany milk coming in. I'm hoping it will fully come in soon, as he's 4 days old, has lost over 8% of his body weight, and isn't filling diapers frequently enough. He breastfeeds regularly, I just don't know that he's getting enough to eat. I have a lactation consultant coming by today to check on his latch and hopefully she can offer some tips on getting my supply up. I'll also try pumping today and if that doesn't work we've got samples of formula we'll use. DH has LO right now so I can take a nap and all I can think about is what if I'm missing his feeding cues and he's hungry?

    3. Any questions, advice or resources to share in regard to feeding and PP care? 
    I'd say I'm more in the camp of needing advice at this point...I don't know if it's unusual for my milk to not have fully come in yet. All the women in my family have no issues with milk supply or breastfeeding, so part of me feels like my body is failing me in a way. 

  • @gowenc Milk usually comes in between 2-5 days. I wouldn't be too worried yet, changing color to more white is the right direction.


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    August '18 Siggy April Showers:






    Me: 28 H: 24
    Married: 7/22/14
    Baby L: 8/4/2015  August 2015 Moms
    Baby E: 11/18/2016   December 2016 Moms
    TTC #3 08/2017  BFP 11/27/2017. 
    Twin B lost 11/22/2017, Twin A doing well. 


  • @Kate08Young literally an hour after I posted that I looked down and noticed that my right boob had taken on a...um...let's say porn star quality. Which was ideal, I was able to get a lactation consultant to the house and she gave me some pointers on some of my little guy's body language cues. He latches well but I was misreading him falling asleep as being satisfied, but really he was too tired to get what little milk was in there. I've got at least one boob working now and he had a really good feeding - we just have to catch up a little bit. I'm anticipating some particularly sleepless nights ahead as he plays catch up.
  • Yay @gowenc !
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  • @DiFazette - so frustrating! Hang in there - as though twins aren't challenging enough when everything is going right...

    @austenista - it's so awesome to hear about your time with Eaton home but man - I'm sorry you're having such horrific issues with your mom. Any reasonable person would be able to look beyond themselves and say "okay whether or not I'm ok with it, they clearly don't want me around now and their needs while caring for their newborn obviously are More important than mine here..." 
    i cant imagine having to deal with that...
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  • @DiFazette I'm so sorry you're dealing with mastitis on top of everything. All the hugs for you. I hope you feel better soon.

    Me: 33     H: 36

    Married: 12/14/13   DS: 1/29/09

    BFP2: 10/9/15  MMC: 11/12/15

    BFP3: 4/6/16   DD: 12/12/16


  • PharmDMomPharmDMom member
    edited December 2016

    1. How many weeks are you PP? How are you feeling... physically, emotionally, as a mama to your sweet babe?

    One week PP. Physically feeling good. Not too sore from my tear although I have one pesky hemorrhoid that is super painful! Emotionally I'm better today than earlier this week. See next question's answer. 

    2. Let's talk boobs, breastfeeding, pumping or bottle/formula feeding this week ... What's happening in your world with these things? How is your little one doing adjusting to the method of feeding you are doing? What is your joy and struggle with it?

    I had really low milk supply with my two previous babies. Had to supplement early on (day 4-5) bc they stopped wetting diapers. I only ever produced about 30ml total per feeding with both kids and that is after ALL the tricks (Fenugreek, water, oatmeal, Reglan, pumping every 2 hours). Only nursed 2-3 months with them bc nursing and FF both is such a hassle. So I knew this time to be prepared for the same. 

    Well Parker stopped wetting diapers on day 3 so we gave a little  formula after some feedings but not a lot- he was so fussy crying almost all the time Sat -Mon. Started refusing to latch too. I was depressed and crying constantly. We saw lactation on Tues. He is down >10% from both weight. :( He only transferred 10ml per side. I also had been pumping after feedings and getting literally 1 drop per side. LC asked me if anyone ever told me I have hypoplastic breasts. I said I had read about it and thought I did but never totally sure. She said that I mainly have mammary tissue right around my areola but none further back from there or up into my armpit like most women. She told me I could nurse and pump 24/7 and would never have enough milk. I was SO thankful to have an IBCLC tell me the truth and validate all the struggles I've had with BF. To know that it's not my fault that even though I have always done everything right (I'm a rule follower and have read and done ALL the things about BF) and still couldn't nurse anywhere near exclusively was so freeing. She said I need to focus on formula as his primary nutrition and breast milk as dessert. lol She said she doesn't see too many women with this issue but that when she does she wants to be honest because otherwise we will kill ourselves trying to achieve the impossible and feel so guilty. Exactly what I did and how I felt with my first two. So my boobs are duds but I am starting to accept it and move on. 

    So his latch on my left side hasn't been great (slight upper lip tie) since the beginning and now is worse bc he is drinking so many bottles. So I have decided to pump three times a day (I'm getting 0.5-1oz) and give that in bottles. And nurse once overnight when he's more sleepy and doesn't suck quite as hard and I can tolerate the discomfort. Parker is SO SO happy and content now that we are feeding him enough. And hopefully getting back on track weight wise. We have a weight check on Mon. I know my measly supply may not last long with this pumping plan but it's what I felt I could do right now (I have two other kids to run after!) to try to give him some more BM but not stress myself out. 

    3. Any questions, advice or resources to share in regard to feeding and PP care? 

    I second the advice on Gel Soothies for sore nips. Totally give good relief! I also like Motherlove Nipple cream. Better texture than Earth Mama IMO. 
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  • DiFazette said:
    You guys... I literally need a group hug.  The hits keep on coming - I have mastitis now.  I started feeling flu like yesterday and having stabbing breast pain before bed last night.  Waiting to hear back from my doc, but I had a case around 6 months with DS when I went back to work and changed my pumping routine.  I know what this feels like and it's terrible.  I'm ready to throw my pump out the window, forget my nursing dreams and go to formula exclusively.  If all this happened with a singleton I would have by now but the sheer cost of two on formula has me hanging on by a thread... free food vs. $300-$400/month.  I've cried numerous times in the past 12 hours.  So overwhelmed by these struggles on top of having two newborns and a DS.  
    This.is.me. I have cried so much bc I cannot produce enough. I am a smaller woman and have already lost most of my baby weight. I am the only woman wishing to keep the lbs. I am even more upset that I'm probably going to have to go to formula only. We can cry together =(
  • @DiFazette I am sending many thoughts and hugs your way. <3


  • 5 days post c section and these are my morning feet. They will be double this size by nightfall. I did not have swelling in my feet during pregnancy and holy moly this hurts. 
    DD1 5/23/14, DD2 12/5/16   Baby #3 on the way!


  • maamawaabangimaamawaabangi member
    edited December 2016
    @sourlemon :o 
    Goodness! 

    Due December 27th with baby #7




  • Oops it replied before I was done...
    I hope that's you pee or sweat all that out soon!!! If you wake up drenched you'll know where all the water went! I'm sorry. 

    Due December 27th with baby #7




  • maamawaabangimaamawaabangi member
    edited December 2016
    Then again... maybe she's on Pinterest looking up recipes of how she can use her milk for dinner???  :p Oh my goodness it's just too much! 

    Due December 27th with baby #7




  • @maamawaabangi DH saw that picture in babies r us and died laughing for five minutes straight
  • @dmontgo her stomach was killing me too! Sooo un-postpartum in every way! 

    Due December 27th with baby #7




  • DH was looking for a hand's free bra for me today and came across that jewel.... we had a good laugh
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