I didn't read the whole article, but I'm totally curious how you can cause yourself to produce milk without pregnancy. Maybe I'll revisit it in a bit. Not my thing at all but not doing anybody any harm either.
I didn't read the whole article, but I'm totally curious how you can cause yourself to produce milk without pregnancy. Maybe I'll revisit it in a bit. Not my thing at all but not doing anybody any harm either.
It totally grossed me out. But, after having nursed I just have a hard time letting H anywhere near my nips. It's like instant turn off if his mouth goes near them. Poor guy. No nips or blowies.
@Xstatic3333 I actually have a random bit of information about that. Apparently women who have not been pregnant can still lactate, and most commonly it is used by adoptive moms who would like to provide their own milk (in part or in whole) to the baby!
There is a protocol for it and everything. I have no idea how successful it is, but other mammals can do it as well, even without prior pregnancy.
@Xstatic3333 I actually have a random bit of information about that. Apparently women who have not been pregnant can still lactate, and most commonly it is used by adoptive moms who would like to provide their own milk (in part or in whole) to the baby!
There is a protocol for it and everything. I have no idea how successful it is, but other mammals can do it as well, even without prior pregnancy.
I feel like a lurker this week because I've mostly kept up on the main threads but haven't posted much. This week has been craaaaaazy and I can't believe I have to be a teacher again on Monday.
@PerraSucia historically, milk maids were women who had had children and breast fed, often for aristocrats.
Like, in Romeo and Juliet, Juliet's nurse bf'ed her when she was little. She had had a daughter the same age that died. Infant mortality was high then, so poor moms could find work as wet nurses for rich families. The peasants in Shakespeare's audience would have related to her character.
@PerraSucia historically, milk maids were women who had had children and breast fed, often for aristocrats.
Like, in Romeo and Juliet, Juliet's nurse bf'ed her when she was little. She had had a daughter the same age that died. Infant mortality was high then, so poor moms could find work as wet nurses for rich families. The peasants in Shakespeare's audience would have related to her character.
Milk maids work(ed) on dairy farms; wet nurse is the term you want.
Speaking of: what do you think of this in modern times? My mom told me when my little brother was a baby, a neighbor's older daughter was really sick in the hospital with meningitis and a couple of neighborhood moms (my mom included) helped out by nursing her baby while she was with the daughter. Seems unheard of nowadays, but the whole thing sounds beautifully selfless to me.
@PerraSucia historically, milk maids were women who had had children and breast fed, often for aristocrats.
Like, in Romeo and Juliet, Juliet's nurse bf'ed her when she was little. She had had a daughter the same age that died. Infant mortality was high then, so poor moms could find work as wet nurses for rich families. The peasants in Shakespeare's audience would have related to her character.
Milk maids work(ed) on dairy farms; wet nurse is the term you want.
Speaking of: what do you think of this in modern times? My mom told me when my little brother was a baby, a neighbor's older daughter was really sick in the hospital with meningitis and a couple of neighborhood moms (my mom included) helped out by nursing her baby while she was with the daughter. Seems unheard of nowadays, but the whole thing sounds beautifully selfless to me.
@MommaBean That sounds very selfless, and like a truly nice thing for them to do. I think I would do it for a close friend or family member, if I was able to. Obviously I'm a first time mom, so I have no idea what my supply may be like.
I think it's pretty common. When my SIL died, we had a lot of offers from women we'd never met offering to donate milk for her 5 month old. People are pretty amazing.
I think donating milk is one (wonderful) thing and nursing is another. Donating may be common, but wet nursing? I asked friends about this once and many thought nursing another baby would be weird.
I would absolutely nurse somebody else's baby. A hungry baby? I've got that. I've never done it but if somebody needed it, I totally would. My boobs aren't special miracle boobs created only for my perfect children to suckle. They're regular old boobs with regular old milk. Have at it. I'd probably even let a hungry adult have a go.
There are milk banks here that you can donate to, for circumstances where the mother has taken ill or passed away or hasnt the supply for ill babies. Not 100% sure how it works but think theyre mostly run out of the hospitals. I think its an amazing thing to do for someone else in need.
edited: also curious about how attached you would get nursing a child that wasnt your own? Ftm here & is nursing not a bonding thing with your child aswell as for sustinance purposes?
Ugh. Need to vent for a minute. It's almost 5am and I have a 12 hour work day tomorrow. Still haven't been able to go to sleep because Hubby decided to spend all night watching movies and cooking. I would be excited--it's pulled pork with taco seasoning--but the house REEKS of spices and there looks to be more seasoning in with the meat than there is meat. Guess who cannot even attempt to handle that. Stomach is absolutely roiling from the smell of it all. But he has all the best intentions! I can't really be upset! Except that it's 5am and I feel like death warmed over, can't even get a nice breeze through the house due to air quality outside. *pathetic tears*
Last night DH and I were in the car, and I was telling him that soon, the Gummy Lizard will be able to hear - us talking, music, and general life sounds. I also mention that some people have tried to intentionally play music to the baby, but usually Mozart or something baby themed. The only thing I really wanted to play to the baby at the moment would be Simple Man, or Carry On My Wayward Son; isn't that weird?
He then says, oh, those are good! (Small debate over best Lyndyrd Skynyrd song ensues -he votes the Ballad of Curtis Lowe, I stick to my guns, with Free Bird second) Now he says, well what about Meanwhile Back at Mama's, or Life's been Good to Me So Far?
So I ask, do you mean the, "My Maserati does 185" song? He says yes. We can't play it that song, that's a terrible song for a baby!
TL;DR: Apparently I have no issues playing music that's not for brain development to the baby, but I do draw the line at property destruction, DUIs, and recklessness. That's got to count for something.
@WinchesterGirl Can we not mention Simple Man? I can't listen to that song without blubbering. Not just a few tears. Pull over to the side of the road I need a handkerchief crying. It's embarrassing when I'm riding with someone and I have to turn it before I even hear "Mama." I'm in Georgia so it plays a few times a day on the radio. My sister finds it hilarious and breaks into song randomly. That does it too. Haha. It's the only thing (besides increased leg hair) that I blame on my hormones.
Speaking of music, can we agree that Christmas Shoes is just the worst holiday song? I can't even listen to the first line before I start bawling.
YES. I don't cry though, I get angry at what an awful, manipulative song it is. Remember on Friends when Monica tried so hard to make people cry with her speech for her parents' anniversary? That's the musical version.
@ladyoriza Sorry! I love that song, but I promise to only sing it when you're not around.
@BumpasaurusRex The worst thing ever is if you're shopping at Christmas time and they are playing it over the store speakers. Then there is no escape. That seems to happen to me every year somehow.
Speaking of Christmas, my friend posted on Facebook yesterday asking for everyone's favorite Christian song lyrics or verses for a project she is working on. I commented "may your days be merry and bright" and didn't realize my mistake until like 25 other people commented bible verses. I was like "what does that have to do with Christmas?" Duhhhhhhhhhh
DD1- Aug11 Angel Baby- June13, said goodbye Oct12 DD2- Aug13 DD3- due Feb17
As far as playing music to my belly, I played mostly Mozart and Elvis Presley for my son. The first time he kicked hard enough to see, I was playing Elvis. He still likes both, but he prefers alternative and classic rock.
I'll probably play at least Mozart for this baby. Even it doesn't make a difference, I like it and it relaxes me so that's always good for baby.
Re: Weekly Randoms (8/22)
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/inside-the-misunderstood-world-of-adult-breastfeeding-w436234
I couldn't finish the article, my gag reflex is too sensitive.
Poor guy. No nips or blowies.
There is a protocol for it and everything. I have no idea how successful it is, but other mammals can do it as well, even without prior pregnancy.
Like, in Romeo and Juliet, Juliet's nurse bf'ed her when she was little. She had had a daughter the same age that died. Infant mortality was high then, so poor moms could find work as wet nurses for rich families. The peasants in Shakespeare's audience would have related to her character.
Speaking of: what do you think of this in modern times? My mom told me when my little brother was a baby, a neighbor's older daughter was really sick in the hospital with meningitis and a couple of neighborhood moms (my mom included) helped out by nursing her baby while she was with the daughter. Seems unheard of nowadays, but the whole thing sounds beautifully selfless to me.
Not their grown ass man.
Years ago, I think Salma Hayek did it for infants in a third world country. Lemme see if I can find an article
ETA it was just one baby.
https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=6854285&page=1
Big Bro 7/14/13
Little Bro 2/6/17
Totally kidding. That's beyond gross.
edited: also curious about how attached you would get nursing a child that wasnt your own? Ftm here & is nursing not a bonding thing with your child aswell as for sustinance purposes?
He then says, oh, those are good! (Small debate over best Lyndyrd Skynyrd song ensues -he votes the Ballad of Curtis Lowe, I stick to my guns, with Free Bird second) Now he says, well what about Meanwhile Back at Mama's, or Life's been Good to Me So Far?
So I ask, do you mean the, "My Maserati does 185" song? He says yes. We can't play it that song, that's a terrible song for a baby!
TL;DR: Apparently I have no issues playing music that's not for brain development to the baby, but I do draw the line at property destruction, DUIs, and recklessness. That's got to count for something.
"Mama." I'm in Georgia so it plays a few times a day on the radio. My sister finds it hilarious and breaks into song randomly. That does it too. Haha. It's the only thing (besides increased leg hair) that I blame on my hormones.
Also, Supernatural for life.
Big Bro 7/14/13
Little Bro 2/6/17
@BumpasaurusRex The worst thing ever is if you're shopping at Christmas time and they are playing it over the store speakers. Then there is no escape. That seems to happen to me every year somehow.
my blubber song is Home by Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros
and almost any version of Wagon Wheel bc it is the 1st song Hubs sang to me on the guitar.
I'll probably play at least Mozart for this baby. Even it doesn't make a difference, I like it and it relaxes me so that's always good for baby.