UO Thursday 8/4

dubcompanion

Today is the day to share your unpopular opinion!
This is a safe space. No judgment.

dubcompanion

I hate the movie Pitch Perfect. My friends love it. I just don't get it. I have to fake it. Every. Time.

MrsNap_515

I've never seen any star wars movies....so I agreed to watch the first one with DH last week, meh, nothing to write home about IMO LOL

Phil413

I hate the summer. Especially while pregnant. Every year I can't wait for it to end. I didn't complain last winter when it was 12 degrees as a high for the day. But I prefer fall weather the best. 

Wishilivedinflorida

@dubcompanion Aca-excuse me?! 

@MrsNap_515 That's excusable depending on which "first" movie you saw. If it's the original, though, I am passing internet judgement...

dubcompanion

@MrsNap_515 I guess at least you are honest. I watched my first Indiana Jones movie last year. I think if I'd grown up with the franchise, I'd enjoy it. But as a full-grown adult, the early 80's fashion and the campy special effects detract from my enjoyment. I mean, I love the original SW trilogy, so I'm hardly a movie snob! It can make a difference though on when you see a movie for the first time.

MyNamesTaken

@MrsNap_515 I can't stand Star Wars. This has proved to be an unpopular opinion with my friends and at work. I just don't get it

Spartanrd4

@MrsNap_515 I don't like star wars....I'm usually into fantasy but for some reason I don't like space movies. DH made me watch the whole original trilogy before making me watch the new one and it took every cell in my body not to fall asleep.

onefootinthebayou

This is going to be a massively UO but I'm putting on my helmet and going in...

I don't like the picture of the woman who just gave birth where she's topless in her mesh underwear.  

While I consider myself a feminist, and think women's issues should be at the forefront of the national discussion, I also think that it's OK to *not* share every detail of one's private life and/or the deeply personal moments of childbirth.  Is there anything wrong with the photo?  No.  Do I want to see her like that plastered all over social media?  Also, no.  When we share the news of this pregnancy and are hopefully lucky enough to bring it to term, do I want my friends, family, and coworkers picturing me like this?  Aw, HELL naw.  Thanks, lady.  (This is a bit tongue in cheek and I'm not so self-involved that I picture my friends and family sitting around imagining me in the hospital in this state, but the image is out there now and I'm not thrilled about even the remote possibility of being thought of that way).  

I guess I understand why she did it (to bring attention to the not-so-beautiful parts of childbirth?  To show that she's willing to share EVERYTHING?  Because she wanted attention?) but is all the afterbirth stuff really so shrouded in mystery and "shame" that we need a visual reminder that it's OK to be seen like this?  By everyone?  I see it as analogous to something like erectile dysfunction: it can be fairly common, it's taboo to discuss in polite company, yet it's important to raise awareness so men who suffer from it can get the help that they need BUT - do I want to see a picture of a flacid penis pop up on my FB feed?  No, I don't.  No more than I want to see this lady and think about the stuff that that image evokes.  I'll get there eventually, I don't need her help to understand it. 

I may also be letting my own social media habits color my opinion on this.  Despite several attempts to thwart it, I have allowed many coworkers and some clients to friend me on FB.  The thought of me or them sharing something like this is appalling and would be horrifically unprofessional.  Perhaps this woman doesn't work, or perhaps she doesn't give a rat's ass what other people think of her but I would personally be mortified if someone I worked with saw this.  Then again, I care A LOT about professional decorum and maybe she doesn't - because EVERYONE has seen this by now.  Anyway, rant over.  It's supposed to be empowering, I find it to be a particularly aggressive overshare, somewhat in bad taste, and reasonably unnecessary.  It doesn't do anything groundbreaking (like breastfeeding photos, which I think are very important in furthering the rights of mothers to feed in public), women have been giving birth for tens of thousands of years without her showing us what happens after.

OK I'm ready to take my lashes but please go easy on me, I'm queasy today!

AverageAsh

onefootinthebayou said:

This is going to be a massively UO but I'm putting on my helmet and going in...

I don't like the picture of the woman who just gave birth where she's topless in her mesh underwear.  

While I consider myself a feminist, and think women's issues should be at the forefront of the national discussion, I also think that it's OK to *not* share every detail of one's private life and/or the deeply personal moments of childbirth.  Is there anything wrong with the photo?  No.  Do I want to see her like that plastered all over social media?  Also, no.  When we share the news of this pregnancy and are hopefully lucky enough to bring it to term, do I want my friends, family, and coworkers picturing me like this?  Aw, HELL naw.  Thanks, lady.  (This is a bit tongue in cheek and I'm not so self-involved that I picture my friends and family sitting around imagining me in the hospital in this state, but the image is out there now and I'm not thrilled about even the remote possibility of being thought of that way).  

I guess I understand why she did it (to bring attention to the not-so-beautiful parts of childbirth?  To show that she's willing to share EVERYTHING?  Because she wanted attention?) but is all the afterbirth stuff really so shrouded in mystery and "shame" that we need a visual reminder that it's OK to be seen like this?  By everyone?  I see it as analogous to something like erectile dysfunction: it can be fairly common, it's taboo to discuss in polite company, yet it's important to raise awareness so men who suffer from it can get the help that they need BUT - do I want to see a picture of a flacid penis pop up on my FB feed?  No, I don't.  No more than I want to see this lady and think about the stuff that that image evokes.  I'll get there eventually, I don't need her help to understand it. 

I may also be letting my own social media habits color my opinion on this.  Despite several attempts to thwart it, I have allowed many coworkers and some clients to friend me on FB.  The thought of me or them sharing something like this is appalling and would be horrifically unprofessional.  Perhaps this woman doesn't work, or perhaps she doesn't give a rat's ass what other people think of her but I would personally be mortified if someone I worked with saw this.  Then again, I care A LOT about professional decorum and maybe she doesn't - because EVERYONE has seen this by now.  Anyway, rant over.  It's supposed to be empowering, I find it to be a particularly aggressive overshare, somewhat in bad taste, and reasonably unnecessary.  It doesn't do anything groundbreaking (like breastfeeding photos, which I think are very important in furthering the rights of mothers to feed in public), women have been giving birth for tens of thousands of years without her showing us what happens after.

OK I'm ready to take my lashes but please go easy on me, I'm queasy today!

Wow. That's a lot of feelings to have over a fb photo. 

onefootinthebayou

AverageAsh said:

onefootinthebayou said:

This is going to be a massively UO but I'm putting on my helmet and going in...

I don't like the picture of the woman who just gave birth where she's topless in her mesh underwear.  

While I consider myself a feminist, and think women's issues should be at the forefront of the national discussion, I also think that it's OK to *not* share every detail of one's private life and/or the deeply personal moments of childbirth.  Is there anything wrong with the photo?  No.  Do I want to see her like that plastered all over social media?  Also, no.  When we share the news of this pregnancy and are hopefully lucky enough to bring it to term, do I want my friends, family, and coworkers picturing me like this?  Aw, HELL naw.  Thanks, lady.  (This is a bit tongue in cheek and I'm not so self-involved that I picture my friends and family sitting around imagining me in the hospital in this state, but the image is out there now and I'm not thrilled about even the remote possibility of being thought of that way).  

I guess I understand why she did it (to bring attention to the not-so-beautiful parts of childbirth?  To show that she's willing to share EVERYTHING?  Because she wanted attention?) but is all the afterbirth stuff really so shrouded in mystery and "shame" that we need a visual reminder that it's OK to be seen like this?  By everyone?  I see it as analogous to something like erectile dysfunction: it can be fairly common, it's taboo to discuss in polite company, yet it's important to raise awareness so men who suffer from it can get the help that they need BUT - do I want to see a picture of a flacid penis pop up on my FB feed?  No, I don't.  No more than I want to see this lady and think about the stuff that that image evokes.  I'll get there eventually, I don't need her help to understand it. 

I may also be letting my own social media habits color my opinion on this.  Despite several attempts to thwart it, I have allowed many coworkers and some clients to friend me on FB.  The thought of me or them sharing something like this is appalling and would be horrifically unprofessional.  Perhaps this woman doesn't work, or perhaps she doesn't give a rat's ass what other people think of her but I would personally be mortified if someone I worked with saw this.  Then again, I care A LOT about professional decorum and maybe she doesn't - because EVERYONE has seen this by now.  Anyway, rant over.  It's supposed to be empowering, I find it to be a particularly aggressive overshare, somewhat in bad taste, and reasonably unnecessary.  It doesn't do anything groundbreaking (like breastfeeding photos, which I think are very important in furthering the rights of mothers to feed in public), women have been giving birth for tens of thousands of years without her showing us what happens after.

OK I'm ready to take my lashes but please go easy on me, I'm queasy today!

Wow. That's a lot of feelings to have over a fb photo. 

LOL, I know.  I drove over 200 miles yesterday and ran out of podcasts so I had a lot of boring time to think about it as it was the last image I saw on my FB before getting in the car to make the drive.  It made me question my inner feminist but I decided to stick to my guns on this one.  Don't like the photo, still a feminist.  Sorry for the treatise!

AnonnAni

onefootinthebayou said:

This is going to be a massively UO but I'm putting on my helmet and going in...

I don't like the picture of the woman who just gave birth where she's topless in her mesh underwear.  

While I consider myself a feminist, and think women's issues should be at the forefront of the national discussion, I also think that it's OK to *not* share every detail of one's private life and/or the deeply personal moments of childbirth.  Is there anything wrong with the photo?  No.  Do I want to see her like that plastered all over social media?  Also, no.  When we share the news of this pregnancy and are hopefully lucky enough to bring it to term, do I want my friends, family, and coworkers picturing me like this?  Aw, HELL naw.  Thanks, lady.  (This is a bit tongue in cheek and I'm not so self-involved that I picture my friends and family sitting around imagining me in the hospital in this state, but the image is out there now and I'm not thrilled about even the remote possibility of being thought of that way).  

I guess I understand why she did it (to bring attention to the not-so-beautiful parts of childbirth?  To show that she's willing to share EVERYTHING?  Because she wanted attention?) but is all the afterbirth stuff really so shrouded in mystery and "shame" that we need a visual reminder that it's OK to be seen like this?  By everyone?  I see it as analogous to something like erectile dysfunction: it can be fairly common, it's taboo to discuss in polite company, yet it's important to raise awareness so men who suffer from it can get the help that they need BUT - do I want to see a picture of a flacid penis pop up on my FB feed?  No, I don't.  No more than I want to see this lady and think about the stuff that that image evokes.  I'll get there eventually, I don't need her help to understand it. 

I may also be letting my own social media habits color my opinion on this.  Despite several attempts to thwart it, I have allowed many coworkers and some clients to friend me on FB.  The thought of me or them sharing something like this is appalling and would be horrifically unprofessional.  Perhaps this woman doesn't work, or perhaps she doesn't give a rat's ass what other people think of her but I would personally be mortified if someone I worked with saw this.  Then again, I care A LOT about professional decorum and maybe she doesn't - because EVERYONE has seen this by now.  Anyway, rant over.  It's supposed to be empowering, I find it to be a particularly aggressive overshare, somewhat in bad taste, and reasonably unnecessary.  It doesn't do anything groundbreaking (like breastfeeding photos, which I think are very important in furthering the rights of mothers to feed in public), women have been giving birth for tens of thousands of years without her showing us what happens after.

OK I'm ready to take my lashes but please go easy on me, I'm queasy today!

Ok wait.... I seen that here, that picture is somewhat viral? I thought it was the original poster in this BMB (cant recall who posted it here), so I kinda went with it, but that is only b/c I kinda see this as the "safe" place for those more taboo things specifically pertaining to birth/kids and the like.... But on FB or another social networking site ???
ummmm yeah no, I think that there is a time and place for most things, not to hide them in the basement so to speak b/c they just do not pertain to all areas in life(i.e your flaccid penis example was great). 
Its kind of like the post in another thread (again cant recall original poster- I have the worst memory ever) a vaginal birth or C section are the only ways a baby is coming out but for a stranger to ask I mean come on, there is a time and a place and lets face it ppl that this is acceptable to converse with and then there are others.
So that being said guess I will stand with you for the tomato throwing

(Edit, strange amount of open mouth faces in the post)
 

AverageAsh

I guess it wasn't that shocking to me. You can see more flesh walking along the coastline than that photo showed, there wasn't any bodily fluid, etc. It's not something good I could post because of my job but it wasn't that inflammatory either.

onefootinthebayou

AverageAsh said:

I guess it wasn't that shocking to me. You can see more flesh walking along the coastline than that photo showed, there wasn't any bodily fluid, etc. It's not something good I could post because of my job but it wasn't that inflammatory either.

It didn't strike me so much as inflammatory as it did attention-seeking and kind of superfluous.  I wasn't offended by her body, I've certainly seen more on Venice beach, but when I see those women, I'm thinking "hey, nice bikini" or "hey, rockin' bod girl", where here I'm thinking about bloody or discolored vaginal discharge.  Ugh.  I don't think she ought to be prevented from showing that, but I didn't enjoy seeing it.  

AverageAsh

onefootinthebayou said:

AverageAsh said:

I guess it wasn't that shocking to me. You can see more flesh walking along the coastline than that photo showed, there wasn't any bodily fluid, etc. It's not something good I could post because of my job but it wasn't that inflammatory either.

It didn't strike me so much as inflammatory as it did attention-seeking and kind of superfluous.  I wasn't offended by her body, I've certainly seen more on Venice beach, but when I see those women, I'm thinking "hey, nice bikini" or "hey, rockin' bod girl", where here I'm thinking about bloody or discolored vaginal discharge.  Ugh.  I don't think she ought to be prevented from showing that, but I didn't enjoy seeing it.  

Is it OK to be attention seeking then if you have abs and a string bikini?

nursemama-2

That photo is PG compared to a lot of stuff with labour and delivery. While I personally wouldn't post it, I get why she did. It's not always beautiful. There are so raw emotions that come along with parenthood ex. You don't fall completely in love the second your baby is born and it's pure bliss.  I will people would talk more about the not so nice things like sitz baths, post partum blues, the adjustment period on your marriage. Kudos to this couple who decided to be real.

LindseyLooMagoo

This is going to be fun and very random!! ... I hate boy bands and pop music..yep!! I said it.. The thought of Taylor swift or equivalent makes me want to puke, the thought of more than 2 men singing in a boy band or singing any sort of pop music period makes me want to rip my ears off! - I also cannot stand people who think they are entitled to things or that their opinions are the only ones that matter - - I hate employees with terrible work ethic and liars (grow some balls and own it- I also have a hard time with pessimist people 

onefootinthebayou

AverageAsh said:

onefootinthebayou said:

AverageAsh said:

I guess it wasn't that shocking to me. You can see more flesh walking along the coastline than that photo showed, there wasn't any bodily fluid, etc. It's not something good I could post because of my job but it wasn't that inflammatory either.

It didn't strike me so much as inflammatory as it did attention-seeking and kind of superfluous.  I wasn't offended by her body, I've certainly seen more on Venice beach, but when I see those women, I'm thinking "hey, nice bikini" or "hey, rockin' bod girl", where here I'm thinking about bloody or discolored vaginal discharge.  Ugh.  I don't think she ought to be prevented from showing that, but I didn't enjoy seeing it.  

Is it OK to be attention seeking then if you have abs and a string bikini?

Perhaps I'm more desensitized to it since it's so common but I see that less as attention-seeking and more "this is what is comfortable and appropriate for the beach" although admittedly some suits I've seen are more attention grabbing than others.  

RunBooRun

All of you anti-Star Wars people are dead to me.

MrsNap_515

hahahaha I see I'm not alone on the Star Wars front

@dubcompanion don't judge me to harshly, I watched a cheesy 70s sci-fi in the 2000's, it was hard not to laugh, but what I did like was the R2D2/C3P0 friendship, they cracked me up LOL

onefootinthebayou

NurseMama said:

That photo is PG compared to a lot of stuff with labour and delivery. While I personally wouldn't post it, I get why she did. It's not always beautiful. There are so raw emotions that come along with parenthood ex. You don't fall completely in love the second your baby is born and it's pure bliss.  I will people would talk more about the not so nice things like sitz baths, post partum blues, the adjustment period on your marriage. Kudos to this couple who decided to be real.

Do people really not talk about this stuff?  Do our healthcare professionals and all the books & literature out there not discuss these things?  I'm honestly asking, since I haven't read any books yet.  I realize healthcare varies greatly but I would think at a minimum we would be advised of the self-care recommendations after we are discharged?  I see this stuff discussed here on TB all the time and I'm grateful for it.  Here, I'm presented with the information in a way that I can choose to dig deeper or click past it.  I agree with @annonani that this is the appropriate place for this type of discussion (and maybe even pictures if users are so inclined), not social media.  I guess that was my point, which was hidden in my "manifesto", haha.  Is nothing private or sacred anymore?

jmacd22

I'm not a fan of sci-fi so I don't really like any of those Star Wars or Star Trek movies. I was forced to watch Harry Potter once and never again but oddly enough, I want to take DD to Universal Studios for the Harry Potter land (I don't know the actual name of it) 

kiyamurph

I'm also not a huge Star Wars fan. I've seen the movies just to see them, but not in love with them either. 
What I never, ever got into was Harry Potter. Never read the books, never seen any of the movies. Just never interested me in the slightest. I did, however, read all of the Twilight books and have the movies on DVD. Do not judge me. 

AnonnAni

onefootinthebayou said:

NurseMama said:

That photo is PG compared to a lot of stuff with labour and delivery. While I personally wouldn't post it, I get why she did. It's not always beautiful. There are so raw emotions that come along with parenthood ex. You don't fall completely in love the second your baby is born and it's pure bliss.  I will people would talk more about the not so nice things like sitz baths, post partum blues, the adjustment period on your marriage. Kudos to this couple who decided to be real.

Do people really not talk about this stuff?  Do our healthcare professionals and all the books & literature out there not discuss these things?  I'm honestly asking, since I haven't read any books yet.  I realize healthcare varies greatly but I would think at a minimum we would be advised of the self-care recommendations after we are discharged?  I see this stuff discussed here on TB all the time and I'm grateful for it.  Here, I'm presented with the information in a way that I can choose to dig deeper or click past it.  I agree with @annonani that this is the appropriate place for this type of discussion (and maybe even pictures if users are so inclined), not social media.  I guess that was my point, which was hidden in my "manifesto", haha.  Is nothing private or sacred anymore?

Speaking as a person that has had 3 kids and works in a hospital. There are the classes that are given where its touched upon loosely but you have to remember that you are in the care of the hospital all of two days those classes are brief (normally 30 minutes to an hour) and your not the only patient the nurses tend to in a day.  There are classes you can take that are given by the hospitals and other women's centers that give you a more realistic idea but comparatively speaking a lot is not covered  in the hospital during your stay and unless you have the support from family, friends or a community like this you might be in for some stuff you never quite expected. 

(edit for clarity)

nursemama-2

Do books and health are professionals talk about the fact that you may not instantly bond with your baby the moment it is placed in your arms? No, they don't. Last week I had a long convo with a new mom who thanked me for opening up about my post-partum anxiety with my daughter. You may read it in a book,  but it will never have the acme effect as hearing about it from your friend who experienced the same thing.

I guess I don't agree with your argument about social media not being the proper area to discuss what post-partum is really like. That's like saying people can't post recipes or what they had for dinner because it isn't a cooking page. People are going to post what is relevant to them. She didn't show anything, there is nothing gross about her picture.

onefootinthebayou

AnonnAni said:

onefootinthebayou said:

NurseMama said:

That photo is PG compared to a lot of stuff with labour and delivery. While I personally wouldn't post it, I get why she did. It's not always beautiful. There are so raw emotions that come along with parenthood ex. You don't fall completely in love the second your baby is born and it's pure bliss.  I will people would talk more about the not so nice things like sitz baths, post partum blues, the adjustment period on your marriage. Kudos to this couple who decided to be real.

Do people really not talk about this stuff?  Do our healthcare professionals and all the books & literature out there not discuss these things?  I'm honestly asking, since I haven't read any books yet.  I realize healthcare varies greatly but I would think at a minimum we would be advised of the self-care recommendations after we are discharged?  I see this stuff discussed here on TB all the time and I'm grateful for it.  Here, I'm presented with the information in a way that I can choose to dig deeper or click past it.  I agree with @annonani that this is the appropriate place for this type of discussion (and maybe even pictures if users are so inclined), not social media.  I guess that was my point, which was hidden in my "manifesto", haha.  Is nothing private or sacred anymore?

Speaking as a person that has had 3 kids and works in a hospital. There are the classes that are given where its touched upon loosely but you have to remember that you are in the care of the hospital all of two days those classes are brief (normally 30 minutes to an hour) and your not the only patient the nurses tend to in a day.  There are classes you can take that are given by the hospitals and other women's centers that give you a more realistic idea but comparatively speaking a lot is not covered  in the hospital during your stay and unless you have the support from family, friends or a community like this you might be in for some stuff you never quite expected. 

(edit for clarity)

Good to know, thank you.  I'm straight terrified of it and am trying to embrace the "knowledge is power" attitude but it's not coming easily to me!  

MrsNap_515

kiyamurph said:

I'm also not a huge Star Wars fan. I've seen the movies just to see them, but not in love with them either. 
What I never, ever got into was Harry Potter. Never read the books, never seen any of the movies. Just never interested me in the slightest. I did, however, read all of the Twilight books and have the movies on DVD. Do not judge me. 

@kiyamurph nooooooo give Harry a chance!! I read them as an adult in my mid 20's, I started reading before the last few came out and got hooked....if you liked the paranormal of twilight you should give Harry another try

mrsyimster

someone eats a bowl of wtvr maybe oatmeal on my floor and leaves his or her (pretty sure its a her) bowl non-washed with milky watery soaking in the sink, our tiny sink on the floor shared by 60 ppl in the only kitchen we all use to wash our fruits ... the dish detergent is right next to the sink.

and she leave it there.. days after days. sometimes 2 bowls bc she didn't wash yesterday's....... it takes up like 1/4 of the sink.... if you wash ur fruit u gotta turn the water on really really slow or it'll splatter............................................................. its SO FREAKING DISGUSTING WHO DOES THAT?!!!!!!!! This is a professional work environment (i work for fortune 40 company at the corp office). REALLY?!!!!!!

 

AnonnAni

NurseMama said:

Do books and health are professionals talk about the fact that you may not instantly bond with your baby the moment it is placed in your arms? No, they don't. Last week I had a long convo with a new mom who thanked me for opening up about my post-partum anxiety with my daughter. You may read it in a book,  but it will never have the acme effect as hearing about it from your friend who experienced the same thing.

I guess I don't agree with your argument about social media not being the proper area to discuss what post-partum is really like. That's like saying people can't post recipes or what they had for dinner because it isn't a cooking page. People are going to post what is relevant to them. She didn't show anything, there is nothing gross about her picture.

Kudos!!!!!! B/c ppl act like a fluctuation in post-partum emotions is shameful and dirty and so hush *smh* 
I honestly think that it scares many women into thinking that if they feel anything beyond elation right away and to the million degree that there is something wrong with them and someone is going to think they are a danger to their baby if they speak up!

onefootinthebayou

NurseMama said:

Do books and health are professionals talk about the fact that you may not instantly bond with your baby the moment it is placed in your arms? No, they don't. Last week I had a long convo with a new mom who thanked me for opening up about my post-partum anxiety with my daughter. You may read it in a book,  but it will never have the acme effect as hearing about it from your friend who experienced the same thing.

I guess I don't agree with your argument about social media not being the proper area to discuss what post-partum is really like. That's like saying people can't post recipes or what they had for dinner because it isn't a cooking page. People are going to post what is relevant to them. She didn't show anything, there is nothing gross about her picture.

I guess I fail to see how any of my comments indicated anything about post-partum depression at all.  I just didn't enjoy seeing a woman in a diaper.  I do find it gross.  Like breastfeeding, post-partum mental health is something important that needs to be part of a larger conversation.  Seeing her in a private way didn't ring any awareness bells for me about post-partum mental health or baby bonding.  I just thought she was oversharing.  I would enjoy seeing and hearing more about tools that women can use if they do face post-partum emotional health issues, especially since I've seen a family member go through it.  I don't see this woman as a crusader for PPD or any other critical issues.  

nursemama-2

It was just one of my examples of that I wished people talked about more, I didn't say she was a crusader for PPD. 

AnonnAni

onefootinthebayou said:

NurseMama said:

Do books and health are professionals talk about the fact that you may not instantly bond with your baby the moment it is placed in your arms? No, they don't. Last week I had a long convo with a new mom who thanked me for opening up about my post-partum anxiety with my daughter. You may read it in a book,  but it will never have the acme effect as hearing about it from your friend who experienced the same thing.

I guess I don't agree with your argument about social media not being the proper area to discuss what post-partum is really like. That's like saying people can't post recipes or what they had for dinner because it isn't a cooking page. People are going to post what is relevant to them. She didn't show anything, there is nothing gross about her picture.

I guess I fail to see how any of my comments indicated anything about post-partum depression at all.  I just didn't enjoy seeing a woman in a diaper.  I do find it gross.  Like breastfeeding, post-partum mental health is something important that needs to be part of a larger conversation.  Seeing her in a private way didn't ring any awareness bells for me about post-partum mental health or baby bonding.  I just thought she was oversharing.  I would enjoy seeing and hearing more about tools that women can use if they do face post-partum emotional health issues, especially since I've seen a family member go through it.  I don't see this woman as a crusader for PPD or any other critical issues.  

I think she is pointing out that a lot of aspects in general are over looked and not spoken about in your overall care after birth.  Most see birthing the baby as the end result to even labor and its not you need to work after that to deliver the after birth successfully which is just as important, but even that isn't talked about, there is just a lot of things that are not touched on with a woman both physically and emotionally afterward I think that was the point she was making. (correct me if I am wrong please) 

AverageAsh

I'm willing to bet that most people feel that social media isn't the place for talking about things they don't personally experience. You see that mindset often in politics, social reform, etc. I would bet money if you saw that picture in 10 months you would have had different feelings about it, @onefootinthebayou

AnonnAni

mrsyimster said:

someone eats a bowl of wtvr maybe oatmeal on my floor and leaves his or her (pretty sure its a her) bowl non-washed with milky watery soaking in the sink, our tiny sink on the floor shared by 60 ppl in the only kitchen we all use to wash our fruits ... the dish detergent is right next to the sink.

and she leave it there.. days after days. sometimes 2 bowls bc she didn't wash yesterday's....... it takes up like 1/4 of the sink.... if you wash ur fruit u gotta turn the water on really really slow or it'll splatter............................................................. its SO FREAKING DISGUSTING WHO DOES THAT?!!!!!!!! This is a professional work environment (i work for fortune 40 company at the corp office). REALLY?!!!!!!

 

OMG do we work together lol hahahahahahahaha I eat oatmeal (for the boobs) daily and I swear everyday I rinse it some and put water in it then wash it the next day lol you make me feel shameful lol 

nursemama-2

Exactly @AnonnAni

onefootinthebayou

AnonnAni said:

onefootinthebayou said:

NurseMama said:

Do books and health are professionals talk about the fact that you may not instantly bond with your baby the moment it is placed in your arms? No, they don't. Last week I had a long convo with a new mom who thanked me for opening up about my post-partum anxiety with my daughter. You may read it in a book,  but it will never have the acme effect as hearing about it from your friend who experienced the same thing.

I guess I don't agree with your argument about social media not being the proper area to discuss what post-partum is really like. That's like saying people can't post recipes or what they had for dinner because it isn't a cooking page. People are going to post what is relevant to them. She didn't show anything, there is nothing gross about her picture.

I guess I fail to see how any of my comments indicated anything about post-partum depression at all.  I just didn't enjoy seeing a woman in a diaper.  I do find it gross.  Like breastfeeding, post-partum mental health is something important that needs to be part of a larger conversation.  Seeing her in a private way didn't ring any awareness bells for me about post-partum mental health or baby bonding.  I just thought she was oversharing.  I would enjoy seeing and hearing more about tools that women can use if they do face post-partum emotional health issues, especially since I've seen a family member go through it.  I don't see this woman as a crusader for PPD or any other critical issues.  

I think she is pointing out that a lot of aspects in general are over looked and not spoken about in your overall care after birth.  Most see birthing the baby as the end result to even labor and its not you need to work after that to deliver the after birth successfully which is just as important, but even that isn't talked about, there is just a lot of things that are not touched on with a woman both physically and emotionally afterward I think that was the point she was making. (correct me if I am wrong please) 

This does make sense, and clearly she has evoked a conversation that does bring up the unpleasant side of childbirth.  I guess I am just uncomfortable with the level of extrapolation it took to make her into some sort of champion for women's issues.  IMO, there are other ways to educate and raise awareness of these issues and she did it in a way I didn't like.  Although I have to admit she did raise the conversation.

@AverageAsh  I'm going to take your challenge and try to remember to revisit this in 10 months!  I consider myself fairly self-aware and developed so I'm guessing I'm not going to feel much differently about the photo but I'm always open to letting experiences help form more-informed opinions.  For now though, I'm sticking with my UO: still a feminist, think PPD & other issues are important, don't like the photo.  Let's talk again in April!

dubcompanion

@onefootinthebayou Most of us on the BMB (as evidenced by the job thread! ) are educated women who take the time to research, realize what's important, and do a decent job at remaining realistic about expected changes in appearance and lifestyle during and following pregnancy. I think we have to remember though that there are many women out there that either do not have access to this knowledge or were raised/reinforced with misconceptions. So again, you have the right to consider the photo unneeded commentary. Other women may find it uplifting and informative. I say awareness, as a whole, is a good thing.

On a personal note, I'm already figuring out how I'll rock my adult diapers. Thank god high waisted pants (aka mom jeans) are back in style, amirite? Wouldn't want THAT tag to be sticking out.  

AnonnAni

*high five ladies* I have seen virtual punches thrown an BMB's forever changed by altering opinions kudos on keeping it classy lol 

mrsnc

Phil413 said:

I hate the summer. Especially while pregnant. Every year I can't wait for it to end. I didn't complain last winter when it was 12 degrees as a high for the day. But I prefer fall weather the best. 

This exactly! I purposefully don't complain in the winter, so I can bitch about the heat. 

AnonnAni

mrsnc said:

Phil413 said:

I hate the summer. Especially while pregnant. Every year I can't wait for it to end. I didn't complain last winter when it was 12 degrees as a high for the day. But I prefer fall weather the best. 

This exactly! I purposefully don't complain in the winter, so I can bitch about the heat. 

Im sorry I can't read the French you wrote, did you just say Summer is the best lets ban winter.. oh ok I agree :-) 

BelcherEars

1. I like Star Trek, Star Wars and Harry Potter. 

2. Since we are on the topic of the photo of the woman in the mesh underwear, I didn't like the photo when I first saw it, and my reasoning seems to be very different than others. I am not on FB (GASP! I know ), so I don't know what message was posted with the photo, but when you see JUST the photo floating around online, it looks like a husband has taken a candid photo of his wife like "HAHA look how funny she looks half naked in these ridiculous mesh panties." (granted mesh panties do look funny) and then put it out for public consumption without her knowledge. From what everyone is saying, that apparently isn't the case. She was aware before it was posted on FB. BUT, I dislike that the photo is being shared online without the context. If this photo hadn't been brought up in conversation today, I would probably still be thinking that her DH was a jerk for doing that to her lol -which isn't furthering any conversation other than me to my DH -don't be a d*ck and do this to me.  So, again, the photo doesn't bother me because of the amount of flesh shown, or that it may bring about the thought of bloody, torn lady parts from labor. It bothers me that I have seen it used several times without context, which can be detracting from the conversation that it apparently was meant to bring about. 

3. I don't care for FB and other social media sites. TB is literally the only online community/social media type site I am on. I just don't have time to be on FB or tweeting or Instagraming every thing-nor do I honestly care to. 
 
Edit to add: For what it's worth, I plan to rock mesh panties or depends during the postnatal recovery period.