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Have you had this discussion as of yet?

I hope this doesn't sound like too negative of a subject, but I'm sort of a realistic/"don't expect too much so you won't be disappointed" kind of person.  I've talked to my SIL who is the same age as me - 40.  She and my brother were TTC but she is very private and I don't know if they still are trying anymore, it's been a few years, she told me she was told to see an RE but she never went.  So, we had talked about wondering when we were going to "cut ourselves off" from TTC and pretty much throw in the towel at a certain age.  I haven't really discussed this with my H.  But wondering if you all as a couple came to a decision of when enough would be enough...that TTC was going to be out of the picture and you were going to carry on as-is.  Anyone reach a decision of when that will be for you?  What did you base it on?  I'm not sure if people even do this, or they just get to that point and know it.  
Me: 41
Husband: 40
TTC#1 since 9/2014
Unexplained Infertility - Trying naturally

Re: Have you had this discussion as of yet?

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    no we haven't.. although we both agree that after a year we need to sit down and seriously re-evaluate. I'll be 37 next month so if I'm not KU by the time I'm 38 I dunno.. I guess I can't say how I'll feel a year from now but I think it's a good time to step back and re-assess how badly we wish to consider other options. 

    Me: 37
    DH: 36
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    DS: 11-20-09

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    I have a feeling that after we go to the RE appointment to hear what issues or non-issues we may have based on all of the testing we just did, then we may have some sort of conversation about how much we are set on this and perhaps how long we want to try.  

    H sees me as being "negative" when I talk about what other options/scenarios will be, so I try not to get into it too much at this stage, but I turn 41 in November and I kind of feel that after that I may be done trying.  TTC for so long without any "progress" has really taken a toll on us, especially our sex lives.      
    Me: 41
    Husband: 40
    TTC#1 since 9/2014
    Unexplained Infertility - Trying naturally
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    KLake42KLake42 member
    edited April 2016
    I have only one more shot before I throw in the towel on TTC with my own eggs.  I'm 38, turning 39 in a couple weeks, with diminished reserve.  I'll be trying my second IVF in June. 

    But the next step in our process will be for me to TTC with my wife's eggs, and so far, indications are that her FSH is normal.  We will try reciprocal IVF, and if that's a bust, we will try to inseminate her or help her conceive with IVF, before we give up on her eggs.

    Then we consider donor embryos.

    Then adoption.

    If conventional/open adoption doesn't work, we will move to a big house and try to foster/adopt a sibling group. 

    I don't think we will give up on being parents, but we will be practical about giving up on TTC.  Our goal is to have a family, and there are a lot of ways to get there.

    And yeah, I'm almost there with my own eggs.  I really want it to happen, but I'm not going to waste all our resources on getting just what I want, when it's not just about me-- it's about our family.

    Edited to add-- we are paying out of pocket, so that has a huge impact on when we move to another strategy.
    Me- 39 (turning 40 in April), TTC for the first time ever (since Jan 2015), low ovarian reserve
    Married 3/14/14 to my wonderful wife, but her sperm count is rather low
    TTC with frozen donor sperm and science

    7 IUIs, 7 BFNs.
    2 IVF attempts, both cancelled and converted to IUI, both BFNs.
    Decided that my tired old ovaries are ready to retire.
    Next step- reciprocal IVF, using my wife's eggs, my uterus!  
    fresh 5 day transfer (2 embryos) 4/17/17- BFP! 
    Identical twins "due" 1/2/17 (but anticipated arrival sometime December)

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    I initially thought I was willing to try will help for a hear...that once we got to more expensive proccesses that we would really have to dig deep to make decisions if we would move forward with TTC. But the longer I have been TTC the more I have been willing to pay the $'s and go to whatever the next step is. So in my head I want to say I probably won't keep TTC when I am 37...but in reality if 37 is coming quicker than I seem to be getting Ku'ed. So we will see. At this point we will likely hope hope hope that IUI works but if not give ITV a try. And if neither of those work then we will look at adoption. 
    Me: 37 DH: 32 TTGP Since 2014 INFERTILITY INFO (Medicated, IUI's, IVF/FET) IN SPOILER
    October 2014-April 2015: Without Medication or Doctor Guidance No Periods/No O BFN 
    Medicated April-December 2015: Clomid (didn't work) and so we tried Femera/Letrozole. Progesterone Met 1000 Not diagnosed PCOS but treating the same. Anovulatory. TI No US No O BFN 

    - TW - 
    IUI"S 
    January 2016-October 2016: Letrozole 2.5mg-7.5 mg, Pregyl or Ovideral Trigger Shot.
    9 cycles of IUI
    (7 Cancelled due to no mature follicles) (2 attempted IUI's with mature follicles)  

    IUI # 2 June 2016 and July 2016:  Met 1000, Estrogen (21 days), Progesterone (5 days) Femera 5m 6/28/16 Ultrasound CD14 = 25 follie. Pregnyl Trigger CD14 IUI 7/13 1stBeta (DPO 15): 7.6 (Surprise BFP...but Low #'s) 2ndBeta (DPO 17): 18 3rdBeta (DPO 19) 52.8 Progesterone Prescribed (spotting) 4thBeta (DPO 26) 6.9 Chemical Pregnancy BFN

    IVF and FET (diagnosed with PCOS) 204 pounds at start of IVF
    IVF # 1 October and November 2016: CCRM - Minneapolis 10/14 Consult and CD 3 testing, 10/14 started (OCP Antagonist - BCP) BCP, 10/21 1 day work up, Doxycycline 100mg 10 days, 10/24 stop bcp, Bloodwork US 10/29, 10/30-11/8 Stims 2 vials of Menopur, Dexamethasone, 225 of Gonal-F daily (dropped to 120). CCRM Vitamin Cocktail (like 20 of them), Monitoring (11/2, 11/4, 11/5, 11/6, 11/7, 11/8), Retrieval 11/10 (38 eggs, 30 mature, 16 fertilized ICSI), 11/16 8 Blasts 11/30 CCS testing results 3 Normal 5aa's (2 boys and 1 girl) 1 Unknown 4 Abnormal (All girls) 


    Fet #1 January 2017: CCRM - Minneapolis bcp/lupron/suppository/p4 in oil QOD AF 12/7, 12/8 start meds. 1/3 lining and blood work check 14/15 mm, BW check 1/6. 1/9 transfer with acupuncture 1 CCS/PGS Normal 5aa hatching Progesterone around 26ish? Lower estrogen level 207 (wanted above 300 but over 200 was acceptable), started 1 estrace, progesterone in oil every other day, vivelle dot patches 4 every other day, 3x estrodiol daily, vitamin cocktail. POAS: - 4dp5dt and 5dp5dt, 6dp5dt frer very very very faint line. 7dp5dt and 8dp5dt + on Accuclear. 8dp5dt pregnant on a clear blue easy digital. 214 pounds at FET
    1/18 #1 Beta 91.1
    1/20 #2 Beta 215.9
    2/3 6 week US 2 sacs? Twins? but only 1 heartbeat/pole good heartbeat Stopped taking baby asprin Added in DHEA Veg Vitamin (also got the report that they transferred a girl 5aa eggo) 
    2/10 7 week US 2 sacs (likely vanishing twin) only 1 heartbeat/pole etc good heartbeat 137
    2/24 9 week US 1 eggo sac good heart beat 182 1 very small fluid sac (shrinking) 
    2/24 9 week 2 days start weening. Graduated from RE (CCRM is now starting weening as soon as 8.5 weeks)
    3/7 10 Weeks 5 days  weened completely of FET meds A1C 5.3% (Normal)
    3/9 11 Weeks 1 day my progesterone level was 15 and my estrogen level was 881 (I freaked out!)
    3/16 12 Weeks 1 day baby heard on doppler 164 HB
    4/14 16 week 2 days Ultrasound baby is looking good with all good numbers sized 17 weeks. Also got to hear her on the doppler for a few mins too. 

    5/5 19 Weeks 2 days going in for "20" week anatomy ultrasound got measurements but need to come back as wasn't able to get all the measurements
    MEASUREMENTS BPD 4.6 cm 19 weeks 6 days* (78%) HC 17.0 cm 19 weeks 4 days* (70%) AC 14.5 cm 19 weeks 4 days* (69%) Femur 3.1 cm 19 weeks 6 days* (63%) Humerus 3.1 cm 20 weeks 2 days (84%) Cerebellum 2.0 cm 19 weeks 5 days
    CisternaMagna 6.2 mm Nuchal Fold 4.5 mm
    HC/AC 1.17 FL/AC 0.22 FL/BPD 0.68 EFW (Ac/Fl/Hc) 309 grams - 0 lbs 11 oz
    THE AVERAGE GESTATIONAL AGE is 19 weeks 5 days +/- 10 days.

    6/9 24 Weeks 2 days Glucose Test 1 hour (Failed) 190
    6/16 25 Weeks 2 days Ultrasound and 1st Baby Shower 
    6/20 25 Weeks 6 days Glucose Test 3 Hours (Failed) 95 (95), 183 (180), 213 (155), 198 (140) etc
    6/21 26 Weeks Recommended to a perintologist
    6/22 26 Weeks 1 day start monitoring blood sugar levels 
    6/30 27 Weeks 2 day A1 (blood sugar test ordered)

    7/5 28 Weeks Echo and 3d Ultrasound
    AMNIOTIC FLUID Q1: 2.6 Q2: 3.2 Q3: 4.8 Q4: 5.6 AFI Total = 16.3 cm Amniotic Fluid: Normal 
    MEASUREMENTS BPD 7.2 cm 28 weeks 5 days* (60%) HC 26.4 cm 28 weeks 4 days* (48%) AC 23.3 cm 27 weeks 4 days* (36%) Femur 5.2 cm 28 weeks 0 days* (36%) Humerus 4.8 cm 28 weeks 0 days (49%)
    HC/AC 1.13 FL/AC 0.23 FL/BPD 0.73 Ceph Index 0.77 EFW (Ac/Fl/Hc) 1142 grams - 2 lbs 8 oz (37%)
    THE AVERAGE GESTATIONAL AGE is 28 weeks 1 day +/- 14 days.

    7/10 28 Weeks 5 days Dietitian Appt and Lactatcian Consultant and A1 blood draw 5.4% (normal) 218.5 pounds
    7/20 30 Weeks GD consult. 6 Lantus at 7pm daily. Novolog 1 unit for every 15 gm carbohydrate if consumed more than 30 gm at brkfst or 60 gm at lunch or supper 215.6 pounds
    7/20 30 Weeks Transferred care to OB due to high risk. 216 pounds

    8/2 32 Weeks Ultrasound (not cooperative and still breech) and then weekly NST's
    MEASUREMENTS BPD 8.0 cm 32 weeks 2 days* (44%) HC 29.2 cm 31 weeks 6 days* (22%) AC 26.9 cm 31 weeks 0 days* (24%)  Femur 6.3 cm 32 weeks 2 days* (57%) Humerus 5.7 cm 32 weeks 6 days (71%)
    HC/AC 1.08 FL/AC 0.23 FL/BPD 0.78 Ceph Index 0.78 EFW (Ac/Fl/Hc) 1808 grams - 3 lbs 15 oz (29%)
    THE AVERAGE GESTATIONAL AGE is 31 weeks 6 days +/- 18 days.
    AMNIOTIC FLUID Q1: 3.4 Q2: 2.9 Q3: 2.9 Q4: 4.4 AFI Total = 13.6 cm Amniotic Fluid: Normal

    8/8 32w6d upped to 1:10 for dinner 
    8/11 Baby Shower
    8/13 Baby Shower
    8/16 34 weeks NST good reading Upped to 8 at bed for fasting and 1:7 for dinner 
    8/18 Dr Appt

    8/24 35 weeks 1 day (was suppose to be scheduled for 36 weeks) Weeks Ultrasound/GD Dr Appt/OB Appt 
    Frank Breech
    MEASUREMENTS BPD 8.9 cm 35 weeks 6 days* (67%) HC 31.7 cm 35 weeks 1 day * (35%) AC 30.2 cm 34 weeks 2 days* (33%) Femur 6.9 cm 34 weeks 6 days* (57%) Humerus 6.0 cm 34 weeks 6 days (64%)
    HC/AC 1.05 FL/AC 0.23 FL/BPD 0.78 Ceph Index 0.80 EFW (Ac/Fl/Hc) 2494 grams - 5 lbs 8 oz (39%)
    THE AVERAGE GESTATIONAL AGE is 35 weeks 1 day +/- 21 days.
    AMNIOTIC FLUID Q1: 3.3 Q2: 3.8 Q3: 2.4 Q4: 3.8 AFI Total = 13.4 cm Amniotic Fluid: Normal

    8/31 36 Weeks
    9/7 37 Weeks
    9/10 Water broke...I got it tested at the emergency room it it showed it was negative. More water breaking and didn't go to the dr.
    9/11 37 weeks 4 days Called the Dr and got retested for water breaking...
    10:30pmish Baby Girl Born via Emergency C Section (Frank Breech Baby) 6lbs 3oz  -
    9/13 Dropped to 5 pounds 10oz and had jaundice 
    9/13 38 weeks

    9/22 39 Weeks 2 days C Section Scheduled for 10am (arrive at 8am) Equinox/Solstice
    EDD 9/27
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    I've always been a huge planner. It was not a part of my plan to start a family so late.  It was not part of my plan to have so much difficulty getting pregnant the first time, then miscarrying and then having a SGA baby.  I still wanted to do it again - have another baby.  After refusing to take birth control and loosely charting Jan 2012 to April 2014, my husband finally agreed that we would 'try' for another baby.  As soon as we started, I knew it would take awhile so I immediately started the 'how far will we go?' and adoption conversations.  I am all in.  I started foster care classes almost immediately but the chances of getting a baby are low. The chances of me getting pregnant are also low.  I just don't know at what point we stop everything.  
    **child mentioned**
    Me(38)PCOS/Hypothyroid   DH(43)Low T/ED
    MMC at 10 weeks 03/2011 DD born 01/2012   TTC #2 since 04/2014
    BFP 8/26/2016


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    KT&JohnKT&John member
    edited April 2016
    ***Children mentioned***

    I'm 38 and we have 2 children. My youngest turned 5 in February and we only recently decided that we would like to try for one more child. We have talked about not putting too much pressure on ourselves and giving ourselves six months. I'm not sure if we will decide to try longer if I don't get pregnant in that time frame, but as of now we are giving it six months.

    ETA: children mentioned warning
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    DS-6
    c/p- April 2016
    missed m/c- 6w5d; discovered 8w2d- September 2016

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    jennh75b said:
    TTC for so long without any "progress" has really taken a toll on us, especially our sex lives.      
    @jennh75b I think a lot of us can relate to that statement while TTC. Seeing an RE and knowing we have a plan has helped. We have discussed all of our options, but we haven't set any limits. The more time and money we invest, the more determined we are. We believe where there's a will there's a way. I understand the need to be realistic to manage disappointment. Establishing limits for time or money helps mentally and emotionally prepare and planning gives you a sense of control. You can always re-evaluate once you reach the limit.

    @KLake42 I love the possible plan to foster/adopt a sibling group. I would like to do that regardless of the outcome of our IVF, but I'm not sure I'd be able to convince DH.
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    Thank you all for your feedback on this topic.  I know it's not always easy to figure this all out, and it is such a personal decision for each person/couple.  I think that I am still in disbelief that I would ever be in this position of maybe not having a child when I'm finally in the position to want one.  I don't know that I'm willing to go to some of the options that were mentioned, however H and I have not really discussed it yet.  I asked him once about adoption but he said he's never thought of it.  I don't know that I want to do that, either.  I have never had a strong need to definitely have a child, so that is why I am not really willing to just keep going and going and going through all of the options.  I know I will draw the line at some point.  H doesn't like to think about it, just thinks it will happen.  So next week when we meet with the RE to talk about our results and possible options, I think we will have a much needed conversation on how far we want to take this.  

    I just want to commend you all for pursuing your dream for a child...there are so many paths to choose from and it takes a lot of perseverance to take risks for what you truly want in life.  This process is such a roller coaster and can really take its toll.  I've met so many people that just say if I don't have a child by 35 then I'm done, and it's a shame because there are so many options out there and so many healthy babies from women over 35.  I was one myself - my mom had be at 39, and that was 40 years ago when they didn't have all of these options/testing out there!  So I still have hope for us all!
    Me: 41
    Husband: 40
    TTC#1 since 9/2014
    Unexplained Infertility - Trying naturally
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    No, we haven't had any discussion as of yet. We both really want another child. We're both the same age. Although our problem so far is vastly different from a majority. I will be 38 in July, he just turned 38, and I am also a diabetic. My sugars are in control and my doctor says I am healthy and he's healthy, but it's just a matter of actually trying when I am ovulating. 
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