I CAN'T!

1mae2016

I can no longer hold my tongue. I can no longer attempt to be nice. Pregnancy has ruined my easy going, loving nature. And I don't even care! It's great! 
So, onto the point of the post, I can no longer hold my tongue when it comes to idiots. Or perhaps people aren't necessarily idiots, they're just ignorant. Every now and then I dare to venture beyond the May 2016 threads and ALWAYS regret it. I am so glad that our forum is full of educated, well spoken women - and men.
Why do you need an IV? 
Because if you're not partaking in a home birth you are required to have an IV port on the off chance you need medications to counteract complications. 
Don't like getting your blood draw? 
Perhaps you should have taken that into consideration before pregnancy. 
So on, and so forth. I just can't anymore! Although I do apologize for my unnecessary post, I cannot apologize for my need to rant, or the rage becomes real! Lol 
Edited: for grammatical errors

NB817

Well actually you don't need to have an IV. One of my good friends who had her daughter in the hospital did not want to be hooked up to anything.  She wanted the freedom to walk around, get in and out of the tub and do things naturally etc. while she labored. They wanted to hook her up to an IV but they couldn't legally force her to so she didn't have one. 
I realize that's not the point of your post but I'm just saying that's not a totally stupid thing. 

JoMunson

@NB817 I agree. I feel like in the birth plan thread there were just as many having an IV as NOT having an IV, and we all had good reasons for our choice. 

nerdymama15

If you don't want an IV I read that you can request some kind of iv clamp thing that reserves that vein in case they need to insert an iv tube into it.  It does not prevent you from moving around, but it is there in case they need to give you something in an iv.  It makes it faster than if they had to start one from scratch.  Read that in What To Expect When You Are Expecting and I horribly paraphrased it.

kami09

Hey, I'm not sure if I've said the word "hep-lock" around here...so I'm just gonna throw that out there

TheThornBird

1mae2016 said:

Don't like getting your blood draw? 
Perhaps you should have taken that into consideration before pregnancy. 

I dont know what this is in reference to, but I don't like getting my blood drawn- or any needles at all- but I don't think that means I should never have children. 

1mae2016

@TheThornBird my insinuation was not that women shouldn't have children due to the fact of not liking to have their blood drawn, rather that it should have been taken into consideration. 
Side note: many hospitals require at least the port, even if you don't actually get the bag right away. Which is what I said. 
I'm really not trying to come off as arrogant, although I"m sure that's the way I sound, I just really wanted to vent. 

bkjade

Heh. That took a turn.

Many hospitals do require hep-locks, but with my two older daughters and help from my midwife, I was able to negotiate a hep-lock free admission to the hospital for both of them. 

sarahjo8

TheThornBird said:

1mae2016 said:

Don't like getting your blood draw? 
Perhaps you should have taken that into consideration before pregnancy. 

I dont know what this is in reference to, but I don't like getting my blood drawn- or any needles at all- but I don't think that means I should never have children. 

Agreed. I have a life long blood-injury-injection phobia and was completely aware before I got pregnant that I'd have to face that.  Was that a reason to not get pregnant ever?  Absolutely not.  Do I still dread blood draws? Yep. I don't think having a phobia makes you ignorant about being pregnant. 

saraleigh2

OP I couldn't agree more!!

saladflambe

IVs aren't required at my hospital. Neither is continual fetal monitoring. They check heartbeat by doppler every 15 minutes or so. There are many options. And needle/blood phobias are a real thing and a real challenge...you shouldn't NOT get pregnant just because you have these phobias. It's OK to be afraid and express that. We all feel lots of feelings -- different feelings -- during pregnancy. And it's ok.

pbandjyummies

I think if you go back far enough you'll find silly questions (if you want to call them that) even in this board especially for many of the FTM. Have some patience for those going through it that are earlier on in the process than we are... we were all there at some point. Don't get so worked up about it. 

avidkeo

1mae2016 said:

I can no longer hold my tongue. I can no longer attempt to be nice. Pregnancy has ruined my easy going, loving nature. And I don't even care! It's great! 
So, onto the point of the post, I can no longer hold my tongue when it comes to idiots. Or perhaps people aren't necessarily idiots, they're just ignorant. Every now and then I dare to venture beyond the May 2016 threads and ALWAYS regret it. I am so glad that our forum is full of educated, well spoken women - and men.
Why do you need an IV? 
Because if you're not partaking in a home birth you are required to have an IV port on the off chance you need medications to counteract complications. 
Don't like getting your blood draw? 
Perhaps you should have taken that into consideration before pregnancy. 
So on, and so forth. I just can't anymore! Although I do apologize for my unnecessary post, I cannot apologize for my need to rant, or the rage becomes real! Lol 
Edited: for grammatical errors

QFP

Wow this post feels really random!

FWIW IV access is not a "requirement" at all, this seems to be a thing in the States. Here, generally you will get an IV access (to make things simple, I am combining Hep lock and IV into one thing here. Basically access to a vein) only once its starting to seem like you will need one. I started being induced with DD and only got an IV put in once it was looking like things weren't going to go as planned (ended up with a c-section, so a good thing in my situation). Granted they err on the side of caution, so as soon as something was a bit wrong they put it in, but there was no requirement for an IV for delivery at all. Most births at the hospital I work in occur without IV access. So while I don't have anything against IV access, it isn't a "necessity" to give birth. And I understand the concerns some ladies have expressed where having that access means its easier for Dr's to give interventions they may not want. Its easier to give in if pressured if that IV is already there, than it would be if the Dr's have to gain access. But that comes down to personal choice.

And echoing others regarding blood draws. Many people have a phobia of needles, and belittling them like this isn't very nice. And I feel suggesting that they shouldn't get pregnant by saying "Perhaps you should have taken that into consideration before pregnancy" if they don't like blood draws is belittling. 

JoMunson

pbandjyummies said:

I think if you go back far enough you'll find silly questions (if you want to call them that) even in this board especially for many of the FTM. Have some patience for those going through it that are earlier on in the process than we are... we were all there at some point. Don't get so worked up about it. 

Thank you for sticking up for us FTM! I know I asked dumb questions/had opinions that were based on my ideas of what things are gunna be like and I really value being able to say those thoughts on here and have STM's tell me that something is normal, or the other side of choosing an intervention, or just provide that support.