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Cautiously optimistic? Low beta hell.

dreamcatch-herdreamcatch-her member
edited November 2015 in Infertility
11/25, I went in for a blood test and received my beta results the same day. A measly 10.1! :( My nurse told me to be "cautiously optimistic" that numbers could double but that the chances are very slim for a viable pregnancy with such a low beta. I was prepared for a chemical pregnancy.
Thursday I experienced some spotting that kinda made me feel I was out, but then it just stopped. (Implantation bleeding???)
Yesterday I went in for my second beta, and I woke this morning to a message from my nurse, telling me that she didn't want to leave me hanging over the weekend and said that my numbers have increased "appropriately", and to give them a call on Monday to "discuss my next steps". Nothing was mentioned about taking another blood test on Sunday (after 48 hours). I'm so confused. Just wondering if anyone really thinks with a 10.1 beta my pregnancy could be viable, or should just prepare myself for another CP? Also, why in the world would I not be advised to take another blood test?
Me:23 DH:32
Married 5/14/13
TTC #1 since 5/14
TTC #1 w/ treatments since 5/15
BFN 7/15
BFP 8/15-MMC 9/15
BFP 10/15- Diagnosed BO 12/15
BFP 2/16-EDD 11/18/2016 


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Re: Cautiously optimistic? Low beta hell.

  • dreamcatch-herdreamcatch-her member
    Anyone?
    Me:23 DH:32
    Married 5/14/13
    TTC #1 since 5/14
    TTC #1 w/ treatments since 5/15
    BFN 7/15
    BFP 8/15-MMC 9/15
    BFP 10/15- Diagnosed BO 12/15
    BFP 2/16-EDD 11/18/2016 


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  • riveridgionalriveridgional member
    Sorry you are going through the unknown. Maybe they wanted to wait a few more days before doing bloodwork again, or maybe they will ask you to come in Monday?
    Married to DH 10/6/12
    TTC since 5/14
    Unexplained with (controlled) hypothyroidism and suspected ovulatory dysfunction (but, I do ovulate on my own)
    Clomid 50 mg 3/15 (unmonitored) - BFN
    Clomid 50 mg + metformin 4/15 (unmonitored) - BFN 
    First RE appt. 5/15; Natural cycle 5/15 monitored with 2 mature follicles and Pregnyl Trigger (full dose) + prometrium - BFN
    6/15 HSG - clear tubes & normal uterus; great PCT test results
    TI - 100 mg Clomid + prometrium (AM & PM) + vaginal estrace (AM & PM) 6-7/15 (monitored) --> no additional response and thinned lining - BFN
    TI - Injectables (follistim + Gonal-F, Ganirelix, & 1/2 dose Pregnyl) + prometrium (AM & PM) 9/15 --> 3-7 mature follicles (3 definites and 4+ that could have matured due to trigger) @ O -->BFN + 5 large cysts
    BC for 2 weeks due to cysts
    TI - Injectables (Gonal-F, Ganirelix & full dose Pregnyl) + prometrium (AM & PM) 10/15 --> 1 mature follicle --> BFN 
    TI - Last attempt at injectables (Gonal-F, Ganirelix & 1/2 dose Pregnyl) + crinone (AM only) + vaginal estrace (AM & PM) 11/15 --> 3-4 mature follicles --> BFP!! 11/27/15 @ 13dpo (shockingly, actually waited until then to test)

    Beta #1 @ 16dpo (11/30/15) = 1,075
    Beta #2 @ 19dpo (12/3/15) = 3,150
    One baby: Saw heartbeat @ 5w5d (114 bpm; baby measuring 2.3mm)

    "Great Things are Happening"
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  • dreamcatch-herdreamcatch-her member
    I'm not sure, nothing was mentioned. I wish I were able to call them back on the weekend. It would be so much easier than a full weekend off filled with anxiety. Honestly though, doubling would only bring my hcg to 20. Pretty scary number. I really just want to get another blood test anyway, just to be on the safe side. @riveridgional how are your numbers looking? Hope all is well!
    Me:23 DH:32
    Married 5/14/13
    TTC #1 since 5/14
    TTC #1 w/ treatments since 5/15
    BFN 7/15
    BFP 8/15-MMC 9/15
    BFP 10/15- Diagnosed BO 12/15
    BFP 2/16-EDD 11/18/2016 


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  • riveridgionalriveridgional member
    My RE was closed when I called Friday (the day I found out). My HPT turned just as fast this morning too, but I am so nervous to have my beta test and the follow-up one. This really is worse than the 2ww!! I'm hoping I will be able to go in on Monday after I call. I'm pretty sure I will be able to. I had a lot of cramping since Wednesday night and it's kinda tapered off last night and barely anything today, so that worried me a little. Just trying not to overanalyze anything.

    Have you taken an HPT to see if it shows BFP? Most HPTS are at 25 and I think some turn at 30. How many dpo are you? There was a girl on here not that long ago who started with a low beta, like 10, and she recently posted that she is still pregnant.
    Married to DH 10/6/12
    TTC since 5/14
    Unexplained with (controlled) hypothyroidism and suspected ovulatory dysfunction (but, I do ovulate on my own)
    Clomid 50 mg 3/15 (unmonitored) - BFN
    Clomid 50 mg + metformin 4/15 (unmonitored) - BFN 
    First RE appt. 5/15; Natural cycle 5/15 monitored with 2 mature follicles and Pregnyl Trigger (full dose) + prometrium - BFN
    6/15 HSG - clear tubes & normal uterus; great PCT test results
    TI - 100 mg Clomid + prometrium (AM & PM) + vaginal estrace (AM & PM) 6-7/15 (monitored) --> no additional response and thinned lining - BFN
    TI - Injectables (follistim + Gonal-F, Ganirelix, & 1/2 dose Pregnyl) + prometrium (AM & PM) 9/15 --> 3-7 mature follicles (3 definites and 4+ that could have matured due to trigger) @ O -->BFN + 5 large cysts
    BC for 2 weeks due to cysts
    TI - Injectables (Gonal-F, Ganirelix & full dose Pregnyl) + prometrium (AM & PM) 10/15 --> 1 mature follicle --> BFN 
    TI - Last attempt at injectables (Gonal-F, Ganirelix & 1/2 dose Pregnyl) + crinone (AM only) + vaginal estrace (AM & PM) 11/15 --> 3-4 mature follicles --> BFP!! 11/27/15 @ 13dpo (shockingly, actually waited until then to test)

    Beta #1 @ 16dpo (11/30/15) = 1,075
    Beta #2 @ 19dpo (12/3/15) = 3,150
    One baby: Saw heartbeat @ 5w5d (114 bpm; baby measuring 2.3mm)

    "Great Things are Happening"
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  • dreamcatch-herdreamcatch-her member
    I actually have been getting faint positives. I stopped taking them after my first beta. I asked the nurse too how it was possible to get positives with such a low beta. She said the frers are really sensitive. You really make my feel better, I had never seen anyone who had as low a beta as me. Thanks!!

    I think it's a great sign your tests are still turning quickly. I wouldn't overthink things or take anymore test, you'll just worry yourself. Monday is sooo close, just think, only one more day you have to drag through before you get news that could be potentially life changing. :) You'll look back and laugh at all the worries. Cramping could really be anything. Sometimes the egg just burrows a little further. FX you'll get even better news Monday!!
    Me:23 DH:32
    Married 5/14/13
    TTC #1 since 5/14
    TTC #1 w/ treatments since 5/15
    BFN 7/15
    BFP 8/15-MMC 9/15
    BFP 10/15- Diagnosed BO 12/15
    BFP 2/16-EDD 11/18/2016 


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  • bsckgb7bsckgb7 member
    edited November 2015
    I got my positive earlier this week. The docs office said "if my number was too low they would repeat on Friday" (first draw was Tues). i was at 21.7 and they were happy and told me come back in a week. I even turned a digitial which is supposed to be 50hcg. How early did you test? How many DPO were you?? I have been taking the "weeks estimator" tests and they have been reassuring.
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  • mskeenanmskeenan member
    Hey ladies ... I am SO sorry yall are going through this . I was an anxious wreck when my beta was low and I wish I had stayed more calm . I know that seems impossible .

    Ive read stories of people's numbers starting that low as well- it is not impossible ! One of my friends even had a low beta following IVF and had a pretty huge bleed she thought was her period . Turns out she burst a capillary (hence the bleeding ) and she is currently 13 weeks pregnant with a healthy baby boy . She gives me hope in what seems impossible !

    Doctors really don't know everything . They are just practicing medicine . It's there job to tell us odds .. And yes the odds are not great with low betas but don't give up hope until they tell you it's time ! I'm praying and thinking of you both !! I hope you both get your sticky little beans !! I would demand a blood test asap ! I think that's bull they didn't have you come in before - don't they realize how much we go through ?! Ugh !!

    **BFP and loss warning**

    Me: 29
    DH: 29
    Us: Married Valentine's Day, 2015
    DH: No issues.
    Me: PCOS, unexplained infertility (whatever that means!!)
    June 2015 Medicated TI cycle: BFN
    July 2015:  Medicated TI cycle: BFN
    August 2015: IUI: BFP. Chemical pregnancy :(
    October 2015: IUI: BFN
    January 2016: Egg retrieval: 10 frozen embryos!
    March 2016: FET Cycle- 2 embryos transferred!: BFP !
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  • dreamcatch-herdreamcatch-her member
    @mskeenan @bsckgb7 thanks ladies. That's really reassuring. Sometimes it's nice to hear others experiences when you don't have answers for your own.
    My beta was at 14dpo-or-16dpt. So, it's so weird that I even had spotting the day after. It's driving me nuts not knowing, and I'm so surprised they wouldn't want to keep checking my numbers if I'm still at risk. It is super frustrating.
    Congrats on your BFP @bsckgb7 hopefully it's a sticky bean.
    @mskeenan did your low numbers turn out positively? How low?
    Me:23 DH:32
    Married 5/14/13
    TTC #1 since 5/14
    TTC #1 w/ treatments since 5/15
    BFN 7/15
    BFP 8/15-MMC 9/15
    BFP 10/15- Diagnosed BO 12/15
    BFP 2/16-EDD 11/18/2016 


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  • mskeenanmskeenan member
    @alqizwik the spotting thing is odd ! Do you usually spot before your period ? I never do so that seems very strange !

    Unfortunately for me my pregnancy was chemical back in September . They started at 15 , jumped to almost 30 and then leveled out in the 30s .

    I wish I knew what my friends numbers were that had success . she had basically thrown in the towel on her pregnancy due to her low numbers and the nurses were already consoling her until they ran another test and her numbers shot up .

    I'm really pulling for you !!!

    **BFP and loss warning**

    Me: 29
    DH: 29
    Us: Married Valentine's Day, 2015
    DH: No issues.
    Me: PCOS, unexplained infertility (whatever that means!!)
    June 2015 Medicated TI cycle: BFN
    July 2015:  Medicated TI cycle: BFN
    August 2015: IUI: BFP. Chemical pregnancy :(
    October 2015: IUI: BFN
    January 2016: Egg retrieval: 10 frozen embryos!
    March 2016: FET Cycle- 2 embryos transferred!: BFP !
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  • dreamcatch-herdreamcatch-her member
    Thank you! I actually had stopped taking my progesterone because I just wanted my period to come so I could start again. I was really content with moving forward, now I'm in a world of different emotions and worry.
    I have never ever spotted. Even with my first CP, nothing. It was actually kind of weird, cause I've always started AF with blood, but I still assumed it was my period until the spotting stopped. The nurse said it could possibly be spotting from the progesterone, but I wasn't on it at that point. All of this seems a little bizzarre to me, I haven't found anyone else in my same position before. It definitely helps to hear other successful stories, though. I appreciate it.

    Sorry about your loss. I hope this cycle is it for you!
    @mskeenan
    Me:23 DH:32
    Married 5/14/13
    TTC #1 since 5/14
    TTC #1 w/ treatments since 5/15
    BFN 7/15
    BFP 8/15-MMC 9/15
    BFP 10/15- Diagnosed BO 12/15
    BFP 2/16-EDD 11/18/2016 


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  • jilligan14jilligan14 member
    @alquizwik - when did you stop taking the progesterone? Stopping it suddenly could've caused some spotting since that would've been a huge drop in your progesterone levels (especially if this was your first time taking progesterone). Have you talked to your nurse/doctor about stopping the progesterone? If there's a chance that this is a viable pregnancy (which it sounds like it might just be!), you might want to keep taking the progesterone (but I'm not a doctor, so don't feel like you have to listen to me).

    Also, if you take a look at the numbers listed HERE you will see that the normal range for HCG at 4 weeks (from last menstrual period) starts at 5 and at 5 weeks (from LMP) it starts at 18. So if you are currently at a 20 and your LMP was 4 or 5 weeks ago, you're still in the "normal" range. Obviously nothing is for certain at this stage and I don't want to build up your hopes, but I'd say keep staying positive until you know more information. And I'd call your nurse/doctor and push for more testing (say it's for your own peace of mind - that always works with my doc :-)

    I'll be thinking of you during this difficult time and praying that your little bean holds on!
    ME: 36 (PCOS), DH: excellent SA
    NTNP since 11/12, actively trying since 8/14
    m/c @ 7w (4/22/14), m/c @ 6w (11/19/14)
    11/15: Letrozole, Ovidrel, TI = BFP!!!
    Beta #1(14dpo)=349, Beta #2(18dpo)=2,805
    12/17/15: Got to see the heartbeat (105bpm)!
    1/25/16: NT scan = normal (HB=163bpm)
    EDD: 8/10/16 
    8/8/16: Baby boy born @ 12:25am, 8lbs, 20.5 inches
    5/18/17: BFP!!! (11dpo)
    Beta #1(12dpo)=176.4, Beta #2(15dpo)=607.1
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  • mskeenanmskeenan member
    Yeah same i never spotted with my chemical .. Just had a really heavy AF . I would keep taking the progesterone until they tell you to stop !

    **BFP and loss warning**

    Me: 29
    DH: 29
    Us: Married Valentine's Day, 2015
    DH: No issues.
    Me: PCOS, unexplained infertility (whatever that means!!)
    June 2015 Medicated TI cycle: BFN
    July 2015:  Medicated TI cycle: BFN
    August 2015: IUI: BFP. Chemical pregnancy :(
    October 2015: IUI: BFN
    January 2016: Egg retrieval: 10 frozen embryos!
    March 2016: FET Cycle- 2 embryos transferred!: BFP !
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  • dreamcatch-herdreamcatch-her member
    @jilligan14 thanks for all the information! That makes me feel a little less nervous/worrisome. The doctors did ask me to continue the progesterone. I guess it could be a possibility the spotting was from the decrease in progesterone. I just assumed it would have been more red spotting like my period starting, but I do know spotting varies. I wish I could've gotten my levels done today, but it isn't what the doctor ordered :P so I'll just call them tomorrow and see what they say!
    Thanks again for your advice! GL on your journey!
    I agree @mskeenan I'll continue and see what they say Monday. I only have a few left and only would like to pay that extra $400 for the suppositories if I know there is still hope for my bean to stick! :)
    Thanks for your input
    Me:23 DH:32
    Married 5/14/13
    TTC #1 since 5/14
    TTC #1 w/ treatments since 5/15
    BFN 7/15
    BFP 8/15-MMC 9/15
    BFP 10/15- Diagnosed BO 12/15
    BFP 2/16-EDD 11/18/2016 


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  • jilligan14jilligan14 member
    @alqizwik fingers crossed for you and your little bean!!!
    ME: 36 (PCOS), DH: excellent SA
    NTNP since 11/12, actively trying since 8/14
    m/c @ 7w (4/22/14), m/c @ 6w (11/19/14)
    11/15: Letrozole, Ovidrel, TI = BFP!!!
    Beta #1(14dpo)=349, Beta #2(18dpo)=2,805
    12/17/15: Got to see the heartbeat (105bpm)!
    1/25/16: NT scan = normal (HB=163bpm)
    EDD: 8/10/16 
    8/8/16: Baby boy born @ 12:25am, 8lbs, 20.5 inches
    5/18/17: BFP!!! (11dpo)
    Beta #1(12dpo)=176.4, Beta #2(15dpo)=607.1
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  • mskeenanmskeenan member
    Wow @alqizwik that is awesome news !!!! You could have implanted late !

    **BFP and loss warning**

    Me: 29
    DH: 29
    Us: Married Valentine's Day, 2015
    DH: No issues.
    Me: PCOS, unexplained infertility (whatever that means!!)
    June 2015 Medicated TI cycle: BFN
    July 2015:  Medicated TI cycle: BFN
    August 2015: IUI: BFP. Chemical pregnancy :(
    October 2015: IUI: BFN
    January 2016: Egg retrieval: 10 frozen embryos!
    March 2016: FET Cycle- 2 embryos transferred!: BFP !
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  • riveridgionalriveridgional member
    Yay @alqizwik I'm so happy for you! I'll be keeping my fingers crossed tightly for you tomorrow!
    Married to DH 10/6/12
    TTC since 5/14
    Unexplained with (controlled) hypothyroidism and suspected ovulatory dysfunction (but, I do ovulate on my own)
    Clomid 50 mg 3/15 (unmonitored) - BFN
    Clomid 50 mg + metformin 4/15 (unmonitored) - BFN 
    First RE appt. 5/15; Natural cycle 5/15 monitored with 2 mature follicles and Pregnyl Trigger (full dose) + prometrium - BFN
    6/15 HSG - clear tubes & normal uterus; great PCT test results
    TI - 100 mg Clomid + prometrium (AM & PM) + vaginal estrace (AM & PM) 6-7/15 (monitored) --> no additional response and thinned lining - BFN
    TI - Injectables (follistim + Gonal-F, Ganirelix, & 1/2 dose Pregnyl) + prometrium (AM & PM) 9/15 --> 3-7 mature follicles (3 definites and 4+ that could have matured due to trigger) @ O -->BFN + 5 large cysts
    BC for 2 weeks due to cysts
    TI - Injectables (Gonal-F, Ganirelix & full dose Pregnyl) + prometrium (AM & PM) 10/15 --> 1 mature follicle --> BFN 
    TI - Last attempt at injectables (Gonal-F, Ganirelix & 1/2 dose Pregnyl) + crinone (AM only) + vaginal estrace (AM & PM) 11/15 --> 3-4 mature follicles --> BFP!! 11/27/15 @ 13dpo (shockingly, actually waited until then to test)

    Beta #1 @ 16dpo (11/30/15) = 1,075
    Beta #2 @ 19dpo (12/3/15) = 3,150
    One baby: Saw heartbeat @ 5w5d (114 bpm; baby measuring 2.3mm)

    "Great Things are Happening"
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  • riveridgionalriveridgional member
    @alqizwik YAYYY!!!! I'm so excited for you, I'm almost tearing up! Hormones...
    Married to DH 10/6/12
    TTC since 5/14
    Unexplained with (controlled) hypothyroidism and suspected ovulatory dysfunction (but, I do ovulate on my own)
    Clomid 50 mg 3/15 (unmonitored) - BFN
    Clomid 50 mg + metformin 4/15 (unmonitored) - BFN 
    First RE appt. 5/15; Natural cycle 5/15 monitored with 2 mature follicles and Pregnyl Trigger (full dose) + prometrium - BFN
    6/15 HSG - clear tubes & normal uterus; great PCT test results
    TI - 100 mg Clomid + prometrium (AM & PM) + vaginal estrace (AM & PM) 6-7/15 (monitored) --> no additional response and thinned lining - BFN
    TI - Injectables (follistim + Gonal-F, Ganirelix, & 1/2 dose Pregnyl) + prometrium (AM & PM) 9/15 --> 3-7 mature follicles (3 definites and 4+ that could have matured due to trigger) @ O -->BFN + 5 large cysts
    BC for 2 weeks due to cysts
    TI - Injectables (Gonal-F, Ganirelix & full dose Pregnyl) + prometrium (AM & PM) 10/15 --> 1 mature follicle --> BFN 
    TI - Last attempt at injectables (Gonal-F, Ganirelix & 1/2 dose Pregnyl) + crinone (AM only) + vaginal estrace (AM & PM) 11/15 --> 3-4 mature follicles --> BFP!! 11/27/15 @ 13dpo (shockingly, actually waited until then to test)

    Beta #1 @ 16dpo (11/30/15) = 1,075
    Beta #2 @ 19dpo (12/3/15) = 3,150
    One baby: Saw heartbeat @ 5w5d (114 bpm; baby measuring 2.3mm)

    "Great Things are Happening"
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  • dreamcatch-herdreamcatch-her member
    Hahaha! Omg! Thanks <3:smiley:
    Me:23 DH:32
    Married 5/14/13
    TTC #1 since 5/14
    TTC #1 w/ treatments since 5/15
    BFN 7/15
    BFP 8/15-MMC 9/15
    BFP 10/15- Diagnosed BO 12/15
    BFP 2/16-EDD 11/18/2016 


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  • mskeenanmskeenan member
    Same @riveridgional @alqizwik ! Dang hormones !! I am so so so excited for you !! Congratulations :) i hope the next 9 months are h&h . Please keep us updated !! I love success stories - give me hope :)

    **BFP and loss warning**

    Me: 29
    DH: 29
    Us: Married Valentine's Day, 2015
    DH: No issues.
    Me: PCOS, unexplained infertility (whatever that means!!)
    June 2015 Medicated TI cycle: BFN
    July 2015:  Medicated TI cycle: BFN
    August 2015: IUI: BFP. Chemical pregnancy :(
    October 2015: IUI: BFN
    January 2016: Egg retrieval: 10 frozen embryos!
    March 2016: FET Cycle- 2 embryos transferred!: BFP !
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  • dreamcatch-herdreamcatch-her member
    I'm very hopeful for you @mskeenan and will continue to keep you in my thoughts.
    Please keep us updated on your new journey with IVF!
    FX for you!
    Me:23 DH:32
    Married 5/14/13
    TTC #1 since 5/14
    TTC #1 w/ treatments since 5/15
    BFN 7/15
    BFP 8/15-MMC 9/15
    BFP 10/15- Diagnosed BO 12/15
    BFP 2/16-EDD 11/18/2016 


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  • jilligan14jilligan14 member
    @alqizwik - OMG! This literally made my day!! I'm SO happy for you!! Way to hang on, little bean! Please keep us updated!!!
    ME: 36 (PCOS), DH: excellent SA
    NTNP since 11/12, actively trying since 8/14
    m/c @ 7w (4/22/14), m/c @ 6w (11/19/14)
    11/15: Letrozole, Ovidrel, TI = BFP!!!
    Beta #1(14dpo)=349, Beta #2(18dpo)=2,805
    12/17/15: Got to see the heartbeat (105bpm)!
    1/25/16: NT scan = normal (HB=163bpm)
    EDD: 8/10/16 
    8/8/16: Baby boy born @ 12:25am, 8lbs, 20.5 inches
    5/18/17: BFP!!! (11dpo)
    Beta #1(12dpo)=176.4, Beta #2(15dpo)=607.1
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  • dreamcatch-herdreamcatch-her member
    @jilligan14 I will! Thank you so much! :D
    Me:23 DH:32
    Married 5/14/13
    TTC #1 since 5/14
    TTC #1 w/ treatments since 5/15
    BFN 7/15
    BFP 8/15-MMC 9/15
    BFP 10/15- Diagnosed BO 12/15
    BFP 2/16-EDD 11/18/2016 


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  • wifeinraleigh28wifeinraleigh28 member
    It really warms my heart to read these threads!!  CONGRATS @alqizwik!!!  Looking forward to following your 9 month journey!!

    and @riveridgional I absolutely LOVE you siggy update!! :)
    ***BFP & Child Warning***

    Me: 34, DH: 38 ~ TTC since 2014
    IUI #1-3 (Nov 2015, Feb 2016, May 2016) = BFNs
    IVF ER (July 2016) = 7 PGS normal embryos
    FET #1 (Sept 2016) = BFP! DD born 5/30/17
    FET #2 (April 2019) = BFN
    FET #3 (July 2019) = BFP! DS born 3/27/20
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