Still getting bfn

havingababy0615

We used the cbfm this month. It said I was peak around cd 20. About 12 days past that I had cramping, nausea, constipation and diarrhea, having to pee a lot, super tired. Now, nothing but mood swings, a dull feeling in my lower abdomen, and LOTS of cm-as in soak pantiliners and change them kind of soaked. I'm at cd 37 today. 17 DPO and late for my period by at least 4 days. Still getting bfn. My mom got bfn until she was two months along and had a blood test done. Is there any hope? Was this an anovulatory cycle and I'm just SUPER late (which NEVER happens!) or could I be pregnant? I felt pregnant (as much as I can relate to that as I've never been before) a few days ago. Not so much now.

cjt121413

If you are still getting BFNs, you are likely not pregnant at this time. HPTs have come a long way since our moms were having babies, and false negatives are rare. Are you temping? That's the only way to confirm ovulation. I recommend reading Taking Charge of Your Fertility.

goldie987

If you're still getting negatives, I have to agree with @cjt121413 that you aren't pregnant. Tests now can detect as low as 12.5 mIU/mL of Hcg or even lower (allegedly by first response early Result, not confirmed by the company). Considering that 25 is the lower limit for a blood test to be for sure positive, I'd say the at home tests are pretty darn good. Give your doctor a call if you don't get a period after 60 days but other than that, there isn't much to be done at this point other than waiting it out.

Edited to add: HCG does more than just tell you you're pregnant, it functions to extend the luteal phase of the menstrual cycle so the embryo doesn't get flushed out. Below detectable levels of HCG means progesterone doesn't stay up and AF makes an appearance. No hcg means no embryo (at least not yet).

mrsschmity

Looks like this thread got posted twice, so I'll give my two cents on this one also.

I agree with PPs. Unless you were tracking your temps with a BBT, there is no sure-fire way to confirm when you ovulated (or if you even ovulated at all). It's very likely that you ovulated later than you thought, which could most definitely be the reason AF is "late". If you're POAS and they're still negative at 17dpo, more than likely that means you're not pregnant. I would give it another week and see if AF shows up. If she still doesn't show and you're still getting negatives, I believe it's recommended to wait until CD60 before seeing your doctor?

havingababy0615

Is that 60 day window accurate if I am 35 and have been ttc for a few months? I've heard to go at 6 months of ttc with no success.

CopperLane

havingababy0615 said:

Is that 60 day window accurate if I am 35 and have been ttc for a few months? I've heard to go at 6 months of ttc with no success.

You only need to wait 6 months if you have a normal cycle. Your cycle is already long enough that it's TOO long and a doctor will see you for it ASAP.

longhurrdontcurr

Yes, 6 months is standard for 35+ if you haven't gotten pregnant. Also, CD 60 is standard for seeing a doctor if no period, regardless of age.
It is quite possible you did have an annovulatory cycle this time.... I'm afraid fertility monitors only detect a shift in the lh hormone, they can't tell you if you actually ovulated. I never did turn an opk positive but I still got pregnant.
The only way you can actually, truly know if you ovulated is to temp. It's really easy though, and honestly no big deal. I highly recommend it, then you will know if and when you're truly late and it takes all the guesswork out! It's great.

goldie987

CopperLane said:

havingababy0615 said:

Is that 60 day window accurate if I am 35 and have been ttc for a few months? I've heard to go at 6 months of ttc with no success.

You only need to wait 6 months if you have a normal cycle. Your cycle is already long enough that it's TOO long and a doctor will see you for it ASAP.

Not true. It's normal to have a long cycle from time to time, it happens and most doctors won't see you until 60 days. As for going in for fertility help, the standard is 1 year of trying for under 35, 6 months for 35 or over. You only have a 20% chance of conception every month even with perfect timing, making it perfectly reasonable to spend a 11-12 months without success. The reason for less time when you're over 35 is because of the limited reproductive time of a woman and because women that age are more likely to suffer issues.

HBamama2B

Yes, cycle lengths can vary, and a longer cycle isn't concerning by itself, but if your cycle is generally >35 days you should see an OB to check for ovulatory dysfunction while you are trying. They generally run some tests, may recommend some cycle regulating meds (such as metformin for PCOS) and may or may not refer you to an RE based on how long you've been trying and what other indicators you have. If you've been trying for a 6mth period, regardless of cycle length, and you are over 35, you will be referred directly to an RE.

(The 35 age cut off is due primarily to decreased egg quality (higher likelihood of chromosomal abnormalities) which lower chances of achieving a viable pregnancy).

mrszoess

I had wacky cycles and went to the re. one cycle of clomid and here I am. good luck!

CopperLane

Sgoldberg247 said:

CopperLane said:

havingababy0615 said:

Is that 60 day window accurate if I am 35 and have been ttc for a few months? I've heard to go at 6 months of ttc with no success.

You only need to wait 6 months if you have a normal cycle. Your cycle is already long enough that it's TOO long and a doctor will see you for it ASAP.

Not true. It's normal to have a long cycle from time to time, it happens and most doctors won't see you until 60 days. As for going in for fertility help, the standard is 1 year of trying for under 35, 6 months for 35 or over. You only have a 20% chance of conception every month even with perfect timing, making it perfectly reasonable to spend a 11-12 months without success. The reason for less time when you're over 35 is because of the limited reproductive time of a woman and because women that age are more likely to suffer issues.

It was true for me. I had cycles longer than normal and under 60 days and was seen right away. I was also immediately diagnosed with PCOS and moved on to an RE. There's no reason to wait if you have a long or long cycles, especially if you are actively trying to conceive.

cattlebride

Alot of posters on this thread including op should lurk ttc. So much good information there especially for women starting out at square 1 for reproductive info.

cdnrunning

Isn't the "it takes up to one year" to conceive statistic geared towards the general population vs those that are temping?

cattlebride

cdnrunning said:

Isn't the "it takes up to one year" to conceive statistic geared towards the general population vs those that are temping?

It depends on the resource of information. Some say if you are temping with well timed sex 6 months is enough to determine there might be something going on. Also of doctors still go by the one year rule regardless though .

goldie987

CopperLane said:

Is that 60 day window accurate if I am 35 and have been ttc for a few months? I've heard to go at 6 months of ttc with no success.

You only need to wait 6 months if you have a normal cycle. Your cycle is already long enough that it's TOO long and a doctor will see you for it ASAP.

Not true. It's normal to have a long cycle from time to time, it happens and most doctors won't see you until 60 days. As for going in for fertility help, the standard is 1 year of trying for under 35, 6 months for 35 or over. You only have a 20% chance of conception every month even with perfect timing, making it perfectly reasonable to spend a 11-12 months without success. The reason for less time when you're over 35 is because of the limited reproductive time of a woman and because women that age are more likely to suffer issues.

It was true for me. I had cycles longer than normal and under 60 days and was seen right away. I was also immediately diagnosed with PCOS and moved on to an RE. There's no reason to wait if you have a long or long cycles, especially if you are actively trying to conceive.

They're supposed to make you wait until 60 days past a missed period to not clog up the schedule with "omg, I'm a week late" people who will likely get their period by the time they are able to be squeezed in.  Having a history of weird cycles is different than having one cycle go to 37+ days.  OP said she is never late so recommending she call a doctor and insist on getting an appt right away isn't right.