This is a healthy placenta. You know, that thing keeping your baby alive and healthy.
This is a smoker's placenta. This is what smoking does to your baby's life support system. If their entire support system looks like this, how do you think it does to their development? Yes, with all the help and resources out there, this is very selfish.
But the baby is healthy and growing as he should.
Pretty sure this is sarcasm...
After the complete stupidity I've seen on this thread I'd question it too.
ETA; I did know it was sarcasm
I didn't realize, but I can see it now. I was just too fired up b/c this topic really gets to me.
This is a healthy placenta. You know, that thing keeping your baby alive and healthy.
This is a smoker's placenta. This is what smoking does to your baby's life support system. If their entire support system looks like this, how do you think it does to their development? Yes, with all the help and resources out there, this is very selfish.
But the baby is healthy and growing as he should.
Pretty sure this is sarcasm...
After the complete stupidity I've seen on this thread I'd question it too.
ETA; I did know it was sarcasm
I didn't realize, but I can see it now. I was just too fired up b/c this topic really gets to me.
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Sorry ladies! Yes that was sarcasm! I failed to insert the sarcastic emoji or even quotation marks. I was quoting our lovely wk who is MIA.
I normally do NOT go after people on here, but what the hell is going through your mind?! It's not that you CAN'T quit, it's that you DON'T WANT to quit! I've seen women switch to suckers, or gum even, to help them break the smoking habit. You're not getting the toxins (tobacco) from gum or suckers, but it usually keeps your mind preoccupied, because you're chewing gum of sucking on a sucker. Mind OVER Matter, Dear! Want vs Need. You WANT it, but you do NOT need it. Go try to get some help, and HOPE that you haven't caused harm to your LO already. @-)
i have never been addicted to smoking, but me & my SO were both very heavy drinkers & addicted to another kind of drug. one that was VERY hard to quit. but we BOTH did. he is also going to try to quit smoking before baby is born. i just.. i dont see how you cant. it's extremely, extremely difficult. the cravings & withdrawls are torturous some days. but i, & many, many women out there have quit their addictions for their unborn children to ensure a healthy & happy pregnancy. the whole "i just can't quit" thing is an excuse so you can keep smoking, & a pretty sad one at that..
I dont necessarily think marijuana harms a baby, I know plenty of women who smoked through pregnancy with their children and they delivered a full term healthy baby. I've heard things that make ME nervous, and sure there may be mothers who smoked and had a smaller baby, or a baby with learning deficiency. but from what I've heard it's not necessarily the marijuana that causes it.
I dont necessarily think marijuana harms a baby, I know plenty of women who smoked through pregnancy with their children and they delivered a full term healthy baby. I've heard things that make ME nervous, and sure there may be mothers who smoked and had a smaller baby, or a baby with learning deficiency. but from what I've heard it's not necessarily the marijuana that causes it.
You may also birth a completely healthy baby, but the risk of SIDS skyrockets. Not worth it and it's a disgusting habit. Unless yellow teeth and fingernails are your style.
You may also birth a completely healthy baby, but the risk of SIDS skyrockets. Not worth it and it's a disgusting habit. Unless yellow teeth and fingernails are your style.
Oh god my biggest regret of smoking for so long is how awful my teeth look ( I go to the dentist all the time for cleanings cause I'm so self conscious about it
I dont necessarily think marijuana harms a baby, I know plenty of women who smoked through pregnancy with their children and they delivered a full term healthy baby. I've heard things that make ME nervous, and sure there may be mothers who smoked and had a smaller baby, or a baby with learning deficiency. but from what I've heard it's not necessarily the marijuana that causes it.
First of all, she didn't ask about marijuana. Second of all, anecdotal evidence does not make something safe. Marijuana significantly compromises your blood oxygen level and, therefore, that of your baby. It is extremely selfish to smoke ANYTHING while pregnant.
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I dont necessarily think marijuana harms a baby, I know plenty of women who smoked through pregnancy with their children and they delivered a full term healthy baby. I've heard things that make ME nervous, and sure there may be mothers who smoked and had a smaller baby, or a baby with learning deficiency. but from what I've heard it's not necessarily the marijuana that causes it.
Really? Did you read anything the op posted or just click on the title and decide to say what you thought it would be about? Please, just stop...
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I dont necessarily think marijuana harms a baby, I know plenty of women who smoked through pregnancy with their children and they delivered a full term healthy baby. I've heard things that make ME nervous, and sure there may be mothers who smoked and had a smaller baby, or a baby with learning deficiency. but from what I've heard it's not necessarily the marijuana that causes it.
Lemme guess, it's totes safe because the Mary Jane is natural? Omg I just can't with this today! Nope! Just nope!
I dont necessarily think marijuana harms a baby, I know plenty of women who smoked through pregnancy with their children and they delivered a full term healthy baby. I've heard things that make ME nervous, and sure there may be mothers who smoked and had a smaller baby, or a baby with learning deficiency. but from what I've heard it's not necessarily the marijuana that causes it.
1. Every time @bigboobsmcgee comments I read her posts in Big Ange's voice.
2. OP, I think you should speak to your provider and discuss the possible outcomes (good, bad, ugly, all of them), then the next steps to do what is best for baby. I think the PPs gave you some great info and clear pics (literally), and you should take the info into consideration and just try not to take anything that you felt come across as rude or anything, personally.
I think your all quite judgmental . she's not asking for your opinion on whether you should smoke or not . shes asking if anyone who DID smoke went full term or delivered early. I smoked with my first (cut down dramatically) and she turned out perfectly fine . I'm 33 with number two and gave up 3 days ago after smoking for 9 years . my son is healthy and growing like he should . for a long time I couldn't quit because the withdraw symptoms would leave me with terrible migraines . insomnia and I would get so angry and frustrated and would take it out on everyone around me . so don't tell her she is being selfish its so mentally challenging to overcome any addiction . grow up ladies !!
Right. Precisely. She didn't even ask for help to quit. She just asked us "Hey, I mortgaged my child's health and life, what are the odds something will go wrong at this point?" and then even made a point of adding "I know it''s unhealthy" as if it's some insurance against getting a stern talking to or something.
This isn't a mom who wants to name her kid Zap Brannigan or have a glass of merlot or eat sushi once or twice.. This is a mom who is subjecting her unborn to regular doses of poison with zero health benefits. That it is deadly in any amount is not an opinion.
You can't be on a board like this and expect this would have gone any differently...
^^ Also ok. Let's just say she gets massive migraines from trying to quit smoking and this is her reason for not doing so.
Understandable except that being a parent is hard work and making excuses about why you come before your baby UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES makes you kind of not cut out for the job. Take this scenario.. You're getting up every couple of hours, as recommended, to feed your newborn but the lack of sleep gives you massive migraines. Are you saying that you just stop getting up because managing your migraines is more important than keeping your baby alive?
And please don't say "it's different" because actually, it's not.
Also stop smoking aids, at least according to what i've read, are safe during pregnancy so the craving can even be dealt with safely.
Sorry, I just read the original post not everyone else's comments. But I believe any drug could hurt baby, especially if one does it throughout their entireee pregnancy. I stopped drinking the day I found out, simply because I had someone else's needs to think about besides my own
Im sorry i just cant be nice about this. You are putting your unborn child in danger. Some people shouldn't be allowed to procreate. Can / won't two different things. Weak sauce man.
I smoked for 10 years. I stopped as soon as I got my BFP. Was it excruciatingly hard the 1st few weeks? Yes. I'm not going to judge you. But it's not too late to quit. You can be smoke free by the time your baby arrives. I'm going to be 22 weeks pregnant and I can tell you I've never felt better. Being addicted is hard. There's always an excuse, there's always a tomorrow, there's always something else. Fight the addiction OP, you can if you want to.
Quite obviously quiting is the healthiest choice while pregnant and for life. I was young and not as mature with my first and did not quit. I went into labor at exactly 38 weeks and my daughter is 10 now with no health complications. However, now that I am older, I would be devastated if there were something wrong and it was due to my selfishness. I know how hard it is....please if you cannot quit for you do it for the baby. Give that baby a chance. Best of luck and if you are unable to quit, look into the risks of breastfeeding while smoking and second and third hand smoke.
You may also birth a completely healthy baby, but the risk of SIDS skyrockets. Not worth it and it's a disgusting habit. Unless yellow teeth and fingernails are your style.
Oh god my biggest regret of smoking for so long is how awful my teeth look ( I go to the dentist all the time for cleanings cause I'm so self conscious about it
You are more concerned with yellow teeth and SIDS? I just can't with you. Wait until you actually do get a scare, I venture to bet you would rather have no teeth than something happen to your child. I get it though, you must be super detached from your pregnancies as to the reason why for all the dumb ass comments on this thread. GET A Clue.
You may also birth a completely healthy baby, but the risk of SIDS skyrockets. Not worth it and it's a disgusting habit. Unless yellow teeth and fingernails are your style.
Oh god my biggest regret of smoking for so long is how awful my teeth look ( I go to the dentist all the time for cleanings cause I'm so self conscious about it
You are more concerned with yellow teeth and SIDS? I just can't with you. Wait until you actually do get a scare, I venture to bet you would rather have no teeth than something happen to your child. I get it though, you must be super detached from your pregnancies as to the reason why for all the dumb ass comments on this thread. GET A Clue.
Did you read the whole thread? I was the first to share my personal experience with quitting and addiction, if you READ EVERYTHING you'd know I quit the moment I got my BFP after smoking for many year. My comment about my teeth was in regards to post quitting, they're really damaged from the years of abuse I put them too. How about you go ahead and go back and re read it... Even better I'll tag you in my past comment.
I think your all quite judgmental . she's not asking for your opinion on whether you should smoke or not . shes asking if anyone who DID smoke went full term or delivered early. I smoked with my first (cut down dramatically) and she turned out perfectly fine . I'm 33 with number two and gave up 3 days ago after smoking for 9 years . my son is healthy and growing like he should . for a long time I couldn't quit because the withdraw symptoms would leave me with terrible migraines . insomnia and I would get so angry and frustrated and would take it out on everyone around me . so don't tell her she is being selfish its so mentally challenging to overcome any addiction . grow up ladies !!
@alyx935 I can tell you first hand I know addiction. And to a lot more than cigarettes, my fiancé and I are both recovering addicts from heavy drugs and alcohol as well as self harm. Luckily I've been clean from drugs for 3 years now he's been clean four. Self harm I'm no so far along only 10 months but going strong! What got me through my withdrawals from that was smoking, I've been smoking for 9 years and after I sobered up I started smoking a pack and a half a day. The day I got my BFP both my fiancé and I quit. But here's the thing because of my past drug use my withdrawals were worse coming off the cigs than anyone else's would be (that hasn't used), I suffered through weeks of hell being sick and angry and I almost relapsed many times on many things but I got through it. In not gonna lie around month 4 of my pregnancy I broke and bought a pack off newports. I took two hits and I can tell you this 1)it tasted like shit and 2) the emotional turmoil I felt the moment I took a drag hit me like a ton of bricks. All I could do is remember what it was going to my poor little girl who didn't have a say in the matter, who did and always will rely on me to keep her safe. 2 drags was all I took and it was the guiltiest moment of my life! I threw the pack and I haven't touched one since. No one said addiction or over coming it was easy but it also isn't impossible and it's a choice to do it or not. It's a choice to push through the shit that comes with it and the withdrawals but it's worth it, if not for yourself then for your defenseless child. There is no "cant" there's only I don't want to.
@MrsAlabamaWorley since you don't know how to read I shared a very personal and intimate detail of my life in regards to addiction and told OP the same thing as many others. Next time please read the whole thread not just one comment
You may also birth a completely healthy baby, but the risk of SIDS skyrockets. Not worth it and it's a disgusting habit. Unless yellow teeth and fingernails are your style.
Oh god my biggest regret of smoking for so long is how awful my teeth look ( I go to the dentist all the time for cleanings cause I'm so self conscious about it
You are more concerned with yellow teeth and SIDS? I just can't with you. Wait until you actually do get a scare, I venture to bet you would rather have no teeth than something happen to your child. I get it though, you must be super detached from your pregnancies as to the reason why for all the dumb ass comments on this thread. GET A Clue.
Unless I've read this thread wrong @aleecats said she gave up smoking when she found out she was pregnant. The yellow teeth comment was in reference to her smoking BEFORE she got pregnant and It was hardly her saying she is more concerned about yellow teeth than SIDS, in fact I don't even understand how you could have derived that.
I can only hope you have confused @aleecats with the OP as otherwise this post makes no sense as to why you are so angry at her.
My sister smoked with both of her children the whole time. They both came a month plus early & her daughter was in the NICU for weeks with lung problems. She now has asthma.
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@mollypuss1 thank you, I was actually extremely hurt by the accusations. After being told I would never be able to have children naturally this little girl is my everything. Every choice I make is in her best interest and she's not even here yet and she's my world.
@mollypuss1 thank you, I was actually extremely hurt by the accusations. After being told I would never be able to have children naturally this little girl is my everything. Every choice I make is in her best interest and she's not even here yet and she's my world.
I think we posted at the same time
I really hope she has just confused you with the OP because I can see nothing you put that indicated anything other than you were doing all you could to give your LO the best start you could.
A ex co-worker's two year old son just spent 9 hours in the emergency room with difficulty breathing. Bad asthma attack they had a hard time getting under control and he had no signs of asthma before that. She smoked while pregnant and exposes them to second hand smoke for hours daily. It's disgusting and selfish to harm a defenseless child over something like this. If a woman claims she can't quit for her child, maybe she doesn't deserve to have more children. Tobacco use during pregnancy should be treated the same as any other drug. Maybe these women need intervention for the sake of their unborn child.
I think that everytime someone posts this question, we all should just post a pic of a smoker's placenta. " But but but, my grandma smoked" . Smoker's placenta. " It's really hard ". Smoker's placenta. "My best friend said." Smoker's placenta.
@mollypuss1 thank you, I was actually extremely hurt by the accusations. After being told I would never be able to have children naturally this little girl is my everything. Every choice I make is in her best interest and she's not even here yet and she's my world.
I think we posted at the same time
I really hope she has just confused you with the OP because I can see nothing you put that indicated anything other than you were doing all you could to give your LO the best start you could.
Yes @aleecats she must have confused you with OP. Her replying to you in the manner she did makes absolutely no sense.
To the woman in question maybe seeking help to quit such as talking to your doctor about it or calling a quit line are good places to start.
I can see why this struck a cord with so many women. I see a lot of justified negativity on here yet I feel like instead of everyone condemning her should we not be suggesting ways to help her quit? Is this not a forum to seek support and information to help make informed decisions?
To the woman in question maybe seeking help to quit such as talking to your doctor about it or calling a quit line are good places to start.
I can see why this struck a cord with so many women. I see a lot of justified negativity on here yet I feel like instead of everyone condemning her should we not be suggesting ways to help her quit? Is this not a forum to seek support and information to help make informed decisions?
The point is, she should have made the informed decision to quit long before the third tri. Also, in her original post, she was not asking for suggestions on how to quit, nor did she say that she was actively trying to quit. She said that she had cut back and that it was too hard to quit. She was wondering if anyone on this board had smoked through pregnancy and still gone full term. Is it really so hard to understand why that was not met with positivity and support?
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To the woman in question maybe seeking help to quit such as talking to your doctor about it or calling a quit line are good places to start.
I can see why this struck a cord with so many women. I see a lot of justified negativity on here yet I feel like instead of everyone condemning her should we not be suggesting ways to help her quit? Is this not a forum to seek support and information to help make informed decisions?
The point is, she should have made the informed decision to quit long before the third tri. Also, in her original post, she was not asking for suggestions on how to quit, nor did she say that she was actively trying to quit. She said that she had cut back and that it was too hard to quit. She was wondering if anyone on this board had smoked through pregnancy and still gone full term. Is it really so hard to understand why that was not met with positivity and support?
I second this, and have to add that quiet a few women told her different things they used to quit like gum and suckers. Unfortunately though quitting while pregnant is difficult and different because there are many things you can't do that would be beneficial to quiting like certain aids like the patch or nicotine gum. I will say I didn't think about a quiting line and I do agree that would help but at this point she's stated she made her choice not to quit. The women here were giving her reasons to still try to quit.
Also I will say when dealing with addiction support is needed but you can't enable the person in the name of support. A harsh wake up call is often better recieved than a "it's okay try this when your ready". More often than not the user will never truly be ready without a reason to be ready.
Like I said I see a lot of justified negativity and I understand why people have reacted in the way they have. However that doesn't make it right. I believe in a little tough love but that needs to be coupled with some compassion otherwise it's just a bash fest. There are 70 plus comments on here most of which are purposefully tearing her down. Some of the comments are board line bullying. She will take nothing constructive away from being put down in this manner. If people are trying to make her make a positive change about what she's doing there needs to be some sort of recognition that she is a person who makes mistakes like everyone else but is capable of change.
@AnishkaZara , I think it comes down to this being an anonymous internet forum. Responses will be varied and most likely harsh. I would encourage women like the OP to speak to their doctors. Surprisingly, OB's I know will sit you down and give you brilliant advice. Some will put you on a cessation method that involves cutting down slowly so that it's easier. I've never known an OB to be cruel or nasty when it comes to their patients who smoke, they rather you be honest because if you can't quit they can be ready if anything goes wrong. Hoping this helps someone in the future. Don't be afraid of being judged by your healthcare provider. You're not the first pregnant smoker they've seen and you won't be their last.
So what @AnishkaZara and @notasycophant are saying is be all nice and supportive while giving some advice? Umm no. I don't know anyone in their right mind who is going to support anyone's CHOICE to continuously do something that harms an unborn child and their self. That's like saying its logical to sit someone down and say "well, honey, I guess since you WON'T quit smoking I'll just give you a hug and be as supportive as possible. I mean, you are doing not only your own body harm but also a defenseless human being harm also however, at the end of the day you just need a big hug." Sorry, not sorry, this is very unrealistic and dangerous. That's called enabling. Which is also dangerous.
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i just.. i dont see how you cant. it's extremely, extremely difficult. the cravings & withdrawls are torturous some days. but i, & many, many women out there have quit their addictions for their unborn children to ensure a healthy & happy pregnancy. the whole "i just can't quit" thing is an excuse so you can keep smoking, & a pretty sad one at that..
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Right. Precisely. She didn't even ask for help to quit. She just asked us "Hey, I mortgaged my child's health and life, what are the odds something will go wrong at this point?" and then even made a point of adding "I know it''s unhealthy" as if it's some insurance against getting a stern talking to or something.
This isn't a mom who wants to name her kid Zap Brannigan or have a glass of merlot or eat sushi once or twice.. This is a mom who is subjecting her unborn to regular doses of poison with zero health benefits. That it is deadly in any amount is not an opinion.
You can't be on a board like this and expect this would have gone any differently...
Understandable except that being a parent is hard work and making excuses about why you come before your baby UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES makes you kind of not cut out for the job. Take this scenario.. You're getting up every couple of hours, as recommended, to feed your newborn but the lack of sleep gives you massive migraines. Are you saying that you just stop getting up because managing your migraines is more important than keeping your baby alive?
And please don't say "it's different" because actually, it's not.
Also stop smoking aids, at least according to what i've read, are safe during pregnancy so the craving can even be dealt with safely.
I can only hope you have confused @aleecats with the OP as otherwise this post makes no sense as to why you are so angry at her.
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I really hope she has just confused you with the OP because I can see nothing you put that indicated anything other than you were doing all you could to give your LO the best start you could.
If a woman claims she can't quit for her child, maybe she doesn't deserve to have more children. Tobacco use during pregnancy should be treated the same as any other drug. Maybe these women need intervention for the sake of their unborn child.
I can see why this struck a cord with so many women. I see a lot of justified negativity on here yet I feel like instead of everyone condemning her should we not be suggesting ways to help her quit? Is this not a forum to seek support and information to help make informed decisions?
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Also I will say when dealing with addiction support is needed but you can't enable the person in the name of support. A harsh wake up call is often better recieved than a "it's okay try this when your ready". More often than not the user will never truly be ready without a reason to be ready.