Just started clomid, now DH has to go out of town GRRR!

mandielea2002

I just finished taking my last dose of Clomid this month and my husband found out that he has to go out of town during my fertile period!  Seriously?  What a waste!  I mean, he's only going to be 2 hours away and if it's a day off I could drive there to meet him but since it's my first time taking Clomid, I really don't have a solid idea on when I will actually ovulate.  Plus, we should be BDing like at least every other day starting Friday but now I'm going to have to make the one maybe two times count if I go see him.  

I feels like it's been one hurdle after another for me.  I get preggo the first try, then it ends in CP, then happens again two months later.  Then I find out that I have low progesterone so I start on supplements thinking that'll be it then bam! I suddenly stop ovulating!  I get started on clomid to make me ovulate and now my husband is going to be out of town!  It's like God or the other powers that may be don't want me to get pregnant!   

 Ok, rant over.  I just really needed to get that off my chest.    I guess I will just pay really close attention to my fertile signs and hope to make it count! 

bsckgb7

Hopefully you are taking this drug from an RE and not an OB.  Your RE should be able to pinpoint your ovulation within 1-2 days (you should have an ultrasound to make sure you are not risking multiple follicles and putting you are risk for high-order multiples).   

TheBorg7of9

mandielea2002 said:

I just finished taking my last dose of Clomid this month and my husband found out that he has to go out of town during my fertile period!  Seriously?  What a waste!  I mean, he's only going to be 2 hours away and if it's a day off I could drive there to meet him but since it's my first time taking Clomid, I really don't have a solid idea on when I will actually ovulate.  Plus, we should be BDing like at least every other day starting Friday but now I'm going to have to make the one maybe two times count if I go see him.  

I feels like it's been one hurdle after another for me.  I get preggo the first try, then it ends in CP, then happens again two months later.  Then I find out that I have low progesterone so I start on supplements thinking that'll be it then bam! I suddenly stop ovulating!  I get started on clomid to make me ovulate and now my husband is going to be out of town!  It's like God or the other powers that may be don't want me to get pregnant!   

 Ok, rant over.  I just really needed to get that off my chest.    I guess I will just pay really close attention to my fertile signs and hope to make it count! 

If you're not being monitored, it's a good thing your DH will be out of town. If you were being properly monitored you would know when you are going to ovulate because your doctor would be monitoring your ovaries with ultrasounds and then probably give you a trigger shot that would make you ovulate 36 hours later.

Here's my normal spiel.
Ok. Hello and welcome. I have been on clomid myself and have read many stories on this board for 6 years from women on clomid.

First of all before you take clomid, you need to make sure you don't have any other problems that would make the clomid moot. That is because clomid has a lifetime max of 6 cycles. After that some doctors won't give more clomid because of a potential concern about cancer. Although that link has not been proven. Also, if it doesn't work after 6 cycles, it's probably not going to work. The two most important tests are a semen analysis for your husband and an hsg to make sure your tubes are open.

For each cycle you are on clomid, you need Bloodwork and vaginal ultrasounds on cycle day 3 and then starting mid cycle about every other day until you ovulate. Opks are not reliable when you are on clomid. The tests on cycle day 3 are to measure your hormones, check for pregnancy (clomid is not good if pregnabt) and check for cysts (clomid causes cysts. Also, if you start a cycle with a cyst and take more clomid, the cyst may grow exponentially and cause you to lose an ovary. I have seen some women on this site end up in the ER because they weren't monitored.)

The ultrasounds also check if you are overresponding or underresponding. If you overrespond (like I did) you have to decide whether to cancel the cycle or risk high order multiples and a second trimester selective abortion. If you underrespond, you doc may change meds for next time.

The ultrasounds also check your uterine lining, because clomid might cause your uterine lining to be too thin and prevent pregnancy.

Another side effect is that clomid may dry up your cervical mucus, thereby decreasing your chances of pregnancy. That's why reproductive endocrinologists usually pair clomid with an intrauterine insemination.

Finally, I would very highly recommend you see a reproductive endocrinologist for infertility and not an OB. REs are the experts here, not OBs and they do the proper tests and monitoring as a matter of course.

mandielea2002

Ok, so I've read the clomid warnings before.  I know the risks but I also know that the majority of women do fine on it and the bad effects are rare!   He put me on it due to my history and thought that not only will it jump start my cycle, but help me with my low progesterone and possible poor egg quality when I was ovulating.  He does know my detailed history and says that other scenarios (low sperm count, blocked tubes, ect) aren't likely since I so easily got pregnant before (just couldn't stay that way!)  I am only going to try it for three months and go to an RE from there if still not pregnant.  Oh and I am doing 7dpo progesterone levels.  I'm sure I could request ultrasounds, but for financial reasons, I've elected to wait and see.   From what I understand, the effects of clomid, if there are any, like thinning of lining, only last for the time you're taking it, right?   Oh and as far as CM goes, I've had lots of it (creamy) the past few days!    

I do appreciate everyone's concern and I am taking the warnings seriously.  :-)  

jnnfrrose6

mandielea2002 said:

Ok, so I've read the clomid warnings before.  I know the risks but I also know that the majority of women do fine on it and the bad effects are rare!   He put me on it due to my history and thought that not only will it jump start my cycle, but help me with my low progesterone and possible poor egg quality when I was ovulating.  I am only going to try it for three months and go to an RE from there if still not pregnant.  Oh and I am doing 7dpo progesterone levels.  I'm sure I could request ultrasounds, but for financial reasons, I've elected to wait and see.   From what I understand, the effects of clomid, if there are any, like thinning of lining, only last for the time you're taking it, right?   Oh and as far as CM goes, I've had lots of it (creamy) the past few days!    

I do appreciate everyone's concern and I am taking the warnings seriously.  :-)  

None of this mentions the concerns for high order multiples. Congrats on potentially being the next octomom.

elsiefaye

Please read this https://gbcb3tif.wordpress.com/a-warning-about-clomid/

mandielea2002

Yikes, thanks for your support.

  I DID do research on clomid about multiples and it was something like 8% for twins and for anything higher it was less than 1%.  

bsckgb7

If you currently have a cyst (which you don't know without an ultrasound), Clomid can cause the cyst to rupture and you can risk your future fertility (a massive rupture can take out an ovary)

Also, if your husband has issues with his sperm all the clomid in the world won't help you.  You can only use Clomid 6 times.  You could be wasting one of those. 

mandielea2002

That does sound scary!    Believe me, all of the warnings about clomid are sinking in!  I already took it this month but if I'm not lucky this month, I will talk to him about doing some more monitoring.  I'm not taking my fertility lightly, believe me.  

bsckgb7

Also, let's remember the stats on Clomid you have.  That's how many proceed with the cycle and get pregnant.  I have a friend that canceled SEVERAL cycles because she produced 6 or more mature follicles.  If all those fertilized....she could risk her health and the babies.  So the statistic may be correct, but I think lot's of women would abstain if they have multiple mature follicles.  Those women wouldn't show up in a "clomid caused twins/triplets" statistic.  There are probably no statistcs for "clomid caused 4+ mature follicles".

Hopefully, you will take this warnings and get thee to the appropriate RE. 

PugsandKisses

I have had patients that have taken clomid and have hyperstimed. I am talking about 10 plus follicles on each ovary.

Plus others who had a ruptured cyst that was so bad she ended up losing her ovary.

While 'rare', it does happen. Especially to unmonitered womem.

cattlebride

mandielea2002 said:

That does sound scary!    Believe me, all of the warnings about clomid are sinking in!  I already took it this month but if I'm not lucky this month, I will talk to him about doing some more monitoring.  I'm not taking my fertility lightly, believe me.  

We aren't trying to tell you that you are taking it lightly just that there have been some women in this site who have suffered by not being monitored correctly. We offer advice to help you, not for any other reason. Don't be the next woman who is a cautionary tale to others.

Daybird11Six

mandielea2002 said:

Oh and I am doing 7dpo progesterone levels.  I'm sure I could request ultrasounds, but for financial reasons, I've elected to wait and see.   

Serious question: If you're not temping, and he isn't doing sonograms, then how do you know when 7DPO is? I read through but perhaps I missed something. 

mandielea2002

"I'm sure you love your doctor and I'm sure he has the best intentions for you but that doesn't make him an expert on fertility treatments. Not to mention why you would even need clomid if you had gotten pg before recently? And how does he know you have poor egg quality? 

There is so much here that doesn't add up. Please, just be careful with your fertility. Clomid is a very serious drug"

Did you not see the OP that stated that I haven't ovulated in 2 months????    Or the part where I mentioned two chemical pregnancies, therefore, a concerned over egg quality?  

mandielea2002

AshleyD917 said:

mandielea2002 said:

Oh and I am doing 7dpo progesterone levels.  I'm sure I could request ultrasounds, but for financial reasons, I've elected to wait and see.   

Serious question: If you're not temping, and he isn't doing sonograms, then how do you know when 7DPO is? I read through but perhaps I missed something. 

What would make you assume that I'm not temping????    For your information I have been charting with FF for 5 months.  

You know something?  I have reached out for support and understanding TWICE on this forum and both times instead of any kind of support I get flamed for taking clomid instead?    Apparently, I misunderstood that this forum is all about.  

All I wanted was to reach out to folks in similar situations but instead I get this.  Not ONE person has even said anything supportive.  All this has done is make me upset.  I'm done. 

cattlebride

mandielea2002 said:

AshleyD917 said:

mandielea2002 said:

Oh and I am doing 7dpo progesterone levels.  I'm sure I could request ultrasounds, but for financial reasons, I've elected to wait and see.   

Serious question: If you're not temping, and he isn't doing sonograms, then how do you know when 7DPO is? I read through but perhaps I missed something. 

What would make you assume that I'm not temping????    For your information I have been charting with FF for 5 months.  

You know something?  I have reached out for support and understanding TWICE on this forum and both times instead of any kind of support I get flamed for taking clomid instead?    Apparently, I misunderstood that this forum is all about.  

All I wanted was to reach out to folks in similar situations but instead I get this.  Not ONE person has even said anything supportive.  All this has done is make me upset.  I'm done. 

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No one flamed you. There are gifs and snark for that. We were just concerned for your health because weve had lots of ladies here who have had issues on clomid. People are just curious if you are informed for your own sake.

NachosAndPeaches

I'm new to this board, I think everyone's just wanting to make sure you're informed. Did your ob do an U/S before starting you? I agree that there are factors of not ovulating etc but why wouldn't your ob take precautionary measures and either refer you to an RE or monitor you himself?

If all is safe why don't you use the turkey baster method lol. When my Dh deployed when we were ttc DS I seriously considered it but he had already left so it was obviously too late.

Daybird11Six

mandielea2002 said:

AshleyD917 said:

mandielea2002 said:

Oh and I am doing 7dpo progesterone levels.  I'm sure I could request ultrasounds, but for financial reasons, I've elected to wait and see.   

Serious question: If you're not temping, and he isn't doing sonograms, then how do you know when 7DPO is? I read through but perhaps I missed something. 

What would make you assume that I'm not temping????    For your information I have been charting with FF for 5 months.  

You know something?  I have reached out for support and understanding TWICE on this forum and both times instead of any kind of support I get flamed for taking clomid instead?    Apparently, I misunderstood that this forum is all about.  

All I wanted was to reach out to folks in similar situations but instead I get this.  Not ONE person has even said anything supportive.  All this has done is make me upset.  I'm done. 

I was asking because you said you had no idea when you ovulated. Your post confused me, and I asked out of concern. But ok... Be mad at me and the others for caring. GL.

jnnfrrose6

mandielea2002 said:

AshleyD917 said:

mandielea2002 said:

Oh and I am doing 7dpo progesterone levels.  I'm sure I could request ultrasounds, but for financial reasons, I've elected to wait and see.   

Serious question: If you're not temping, and he isn't doing sonograms, then how do you know when 7DPO is? I read through but perhaps I missed something. 

What would make you assume that I'm not temping????    For your information I have been charting with FF for 5 months.  

You know something?  I have reached out for support and understanding TWICE on this forum and both times instead of any kind of support I get flamed for taking clomid instead?    Apparently, I misunderstood that this forum is all about.  

All I wanted was to reach out to folks in similar situations but instead I get this.  Not ONE person has even said anything supportive.  All this has done is make me upset.  I'm done. 

Evrery person here has asked legitimate questions about why you are on clomid and if you are having the proper monitoring because we are concerned for anyone's health when they mention clomid, whether they're new here or not. Seems awfully supportive to me. And without stating that you've been temping, why should we assume you have? Pretty much anyone who comes on asking for experience with clomid hasn't actually done all of the monitoring needed or charting to determine ovulation. If you don't provide all the information, we've got to ask the questions to get it. I'm sorry you don't feel like you got the support you wanted, but perhaps you got the support you needed instead. And @TheBorg7of9 has been in your position and provided you with extremely useful information.

bsckgb7

If you look at previous posts by the OP, she asked about Clomid before and they told her the same thing about monitoring.  Also, she linked her FF chart in one of those posts.  It only shows 2 months of charts.  My understanding is you can see ALL the charts if the person has a VIP membership, but only 1 month if they have the basic membership.  Assuming I am correct (someone please correct me), it appears OP has VIP and has been temping for less than 2 months.   

YouGoGlenCoco31

I think it would have been a great deal less supportive for people to not respond the way they did.  Take care of yourself.

Everycol0r

Well that escalated quickly.

Goodbye.

mandielea2002

kgbbsc7 said:

If you look at previous posts by the OP, she asked about Clomid before and they told her the same thing about monitoring.  Also, she linked her FF chart in one of those posts.  It only shows 2 months of charts.  My understanding is you can see ALL the charts if the person has a VIP membership, but only 1 month if they have the basic membership.  Assuming I am correct (someone please correct me), it appears OP has VIP and has been temping for less than 2 months.   

Nope!  That's what you get for assuming again!   I had VIP at first until it expired and then went to regular.  A few months before that, I used another app but found FF to be better.  

Everycol0r

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jnnfrrose6

mandielea2002 said:

kgbbsc7 said:

If you look at previous posts by the OP, she asked about Clomid before and they told her the same thing about monitoring.  Also, she linked her FF chart in one of those posts.  It only shows 2 months of charts.  My understanding is you can see ALL the charts if the person has a VIP membership, but only 1 month if they have the basic membership.  Assuming I am correct (someone please correct me), it appears OP has VIP and has been temping for less than 2 months.   

Nope!  That's what you get for assuming again!   I had VIP at first until it expired and then went to regular.  A few months before that, I used another app but found FF to be better.  

You're missing the point. I'm not sure if you're choosing to do this or not, but all we're trying to be sure is that you do get proper monitoring so you don't end up in the hospital from ruptured cysts or have too many follies mature and risk too many babies as once. There is no way for us to know any of your history without providing it to us, and as you hadn't, we asked the same questions we ask ANYONE who asks for advice about clomid. Clomid is a serious drug that we don't take lightly. We hope that you can understand this and do what is best for your own health, rather than assume we're just trying to give you a hard time.

PrimRoseMama

I don't know about you, @mandielea2002 , but if I were asking for information & lamenting not being able to TTC on a medicated cycle (unmonitored & dangerously) I would be incredibly grateful that these knowledgable women took time out of their day to help you.

Getting upset that you aren't getting the warm fuzzies you wanted is poor repayment, dear. They are doing you a HUGE solid in the long run & possibly could save vital reproductive organs.

I mean, hair pets, and "omg me tooooo tee hee hee" are sure nice to hear, but they don't actually help you. They might make you feel good, but they don't help you be an informed woman.

I give these women credit that they will tell me the truth & sometimes I need a good dose of "hey, quit it. This is not a good choice."