How Much Do You Think....

ACleanLife24

About what goes in your pie hole?  Everyone should know that the eating for 2 is BS... but are there any people on here concerned with the quality of their food.  I am thinking the amount of chemicals/preservatives/additives... things not made by Mother Nature.  Also the quantitiy along with quality.  Not Fat Shaming but... basically the US is a society with 30% of the adult population obese which is linked to complications such as metabolic disease, type 2 diabetes and gestational diabetes.  Also pregnancies in which the mother was overweight/gained too much weight have a higher risk of complications during delivery.  You are making a person from scratch... so you want not just the basic "building supplies" but the high end ones for the best potential outcome.

Its great that many women now take prenatal vitamins before they get pregnant but it is also proven that many women can not process the synthetic form of folic acid (they need the bio-available methylated folate).  Prenatal vitamins also do not include essential nutrients for baby development such as choline, betadine, glycine and omega-3's.

I am just curious if anyone else thinks their nutrition in terms of their baby as well?  I can post links to where I learn this stuff but didn't want to get all nerdastic and make peoples eyes gloss over...

inomniaparatus

No I don't think about it.

Are you kidding?

I think most of us aren't subsisting on ho-hos and Doritos.
I just ate two hard boiled eggs to get my choline in lol.

I'm not crazy about my diet like I'll have a slice of pizza for dinner or a burger and not worry but I try to eat healthy, wholesome foods for most part.

I don't recommend being obsessive and it's totally fine to lean into a craving but I also think twice before I eat too much crap.
It's all about balance. I have a healthy BMI and always have so I'm not concerned with gaining too much weight. I wouldn't let that happen.

Kiek

Normally my family and I eat a very healthy diet but right now I'm just trying to get through the day without throwing up all the time. I can keep very few things down

g0lightly8706

I'm sorry.. But I completely read this post in my grandmother's voice.
We are all aware of the benefits of eating healthy vs junk food. Life is one big balancing act. If you want to solely eat clean go for it. If you want a piece of pizza, go for it. We all know the risks of over indulging but its all about balancing both worlds. Plus dieting while pregnant is not the way to go. You just focus on you and I will focus on me.

ACleanLife24

g0lightly8706 said:

I'm sorry.. But I completely read this post in my grandmother's voice. We are all aware of the benefits of eating healthy vs junk food. Life is one big balancing act. If you want to solely eat clean go for it. If you want a piece of pizza, go for it. We all know the risks of over indulging but its all about balancing both worlds. Plus dieting while pregnant is not the way to go. You just focus on you and I will focus on me.

I am pretty sure that I didn't criticise the way that you eat.  I was asking if anyone else has a nutrition mindset and thinks of things in a simpler way.  Pretty much Weston A Price etc...

Also I am well aware that people know "eating healthy" after all the government sets us out nice guidelines and My Plate.  Are you aware that these in now way were based off of scientific or medical research and actually contradict reserach that the government has paid for?

inomniaparatus

g0lightly8706 said:

I'm sorry.. But I completely read this post in my grandmother's voice.
We are all aware of the benefits of eating healthy vs junk food. Life is one big balancing act. If you want to solely eat clean go for it. If you want a piece of pizza, go for it. We all know the risks of over indulging but its all about balancing both worlds. Plus dieting while pregnant is not the way to go. You just focus on you and I will focus on me.

Omg me too. I'm all for sharing helpful info but this post came off condescending to me. Maybe OP didn't mean for it to come off that way but I think most of us are smart, well-read women who know how to take care of their bodies.

purplepenguin3

personally i don't change my diet at all when i'm pregnant vs. normal life.  I eat fairly healthy.  I'm not eating all organic foods, but i get a well balanced diet i would say.  I get what you're saying.  that's just not my style.

g0lightly8706

ACleanLife24 said:

g0lightly8706 said:

I'm sorry.. But I completely read this post in my grandmother's voice.
We are all aware of the benefits of eating healthy vs junk food. Life is one big balancing act. If you want to solely eat clean go for it. If you want a piece of pizza, go for it. We all know the risks of over indulging but its all about balancing both worlds. Plus dieting while pregnant is not the way to go. You just focus on you and I will focus on me.

I am pretty sure that I didn't criticise the way that you eat.  I was asking if anyone else has a nutrition mindset and thinks of things in a simpler way.  Pretty much Weston A Price etc...

Also I am well aware that people know "eating healthy" after all the government sets us out nice guidelines and My Plate.  Are you aware that these in now way were based off of scientific or medical research and actually contradict reserach that the government has paid for?

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Eh I don't look to the government to decide on what to eat anyways. Just was saying we all know already. I get that you are just looking for like minded people however like a PP said, this came off a bit condescending. Either way I wish you well in your lifestyle.

ACleanLife24

inomniaparatus said:

g0lightly8706 said:

I'm sorry.. But I completely read this post in my grandmother's voice.
We are all aware of the benefits of eating healthy vs junk food. Life is one big balancing act. If you want to solely eat clean go for it. If you want a piece of pizza, go for it. We all know the risks of over indulging but its all about balancing both worlds. Plus dieting while pregnant is not the way to go. You just focus on you and I will focus on me.

Omg me too. I'm all for sharing helpful info but this post came off condescending to me. Maybe OP didn't mean for it to come off that way but I think most of us are smart, well-read women who know how to take care of their bodies.

Glad to know that the 30 lbs I put on was because I "let myself get that way".... not because of the prendisone and methotrexate I was on to chill out my immune system enough to have a chance at getting pregnant

.... that was me being condescending -using your words

inomniaparatus

Huh?

AmadorRose

Really, I'm not even mad. That's amazing.

kayjay44

Sorry, OP, but your original post read as condescending to me too. 

Having done this before, I know what works for me. First tri is all about just finding foods I can eat. Since we have a toddler, we actually eat much healthier this time around as we're trying to instill healthy habits in her. But as anyone else with a toddler knows, that's a struggle too. Some days I'm lucky if I can get her to ingest anything besides milk and blueberries.

kris10mac

The approach from the OP is one of the reasons women who truly need the health advice may be turned off immediately.

A little less judgement and a lot more compassion would go a long way.

MrsJG3

Right now I am just trying to stay pregnant. Just an FYI anyone can get GD not just fat people.

kayjay44

MrsJG3 said:

Just an FYI anyone can get GD not just fat people.

So true. My aunt, who weighed less than 98 lbs prior to getting pregnant and only put on 20 lbs, had GD.

ACleanLife24

@inomniaparatus as you said you are a smart woman I think you will be able to figure out the sarcasm and how rude it is to make a comment as you did... basically blaming fat people for getting that way 

@magnumj I didn't mean for it to come out as condescending at all... more of a regurgitation of a lot of information that isn't mainstream or even mentioned by most doctors.  I have been doing some research into it and there are is very little supported evidence about diet and nutrition in pregnancy and even some mainstream "beliefs" are wrong.  The board already negated the whole "everyone is going to get food poisoning" argument so I was looking more into other specifics (ex Vit A and liver... actually OK).  Just seeing if there are other nutrition nerds out there as sources are few and far between.

ecmb

I understand how the post came across but I'm pretty sure OP was just gauging interest from the group on sharing facts and ideas about getting the necessary nutrients from our food during these critical months.

Sounds like she didn't want to post articles/sources if people weren't interested in discussing or sharing some articles and ideas of their own.

If I'm way off with this assumption @ACleanLife24 just let me know.

ACleanLife24

@ecmb you get me... 

inomniaparatus

I don't know how you jumped to me blaming "fat people" for getting that way from what I said. You came off very preachy in your op and I said I, personally, wasn't concerned about all the things you listed because I won't let myself gain too much weight. I don't have any medical issues so I am in control. Unfortunately, that's not the same for everyone but you were talking about food and obesity. Not medical issues and obesity. You want to share research on dietary suggestions. So we were clearly talking about the way we eat, health, obesity and the risks that accompany it. I am in control of what I eat, so I'm in control of my weight. That may not be the case for you but it's the discussion you opened up.

kayjay44

I get it, @ACleanLife24. The internet is tough because sometimes things come off differently than we intend them.

I'm all for doing what's best and not just sticking to the mainstream information that's outdated or just incorrect. I do A LOT of independent research (and by research I mean primary sources, not just google) and come to a decision of what is best for me. I'm not super into nutrition by any means, but I do try to watch what I'm putting into my body. Just because I have cravings for something doesn't mean I have to indulge.

ecmb

ACleanLife24 said:

Prenatal vitamins also do not include essential nutrients for baby development such as choline, betadine, glycine and omega-3's.

Tell me more about these and where I can get them.

Right now I'm eating a lot of protein (chicken, eggs, pork, beef, shellfish and fish), collard greens, mushrooms, apples, bananas, strawberries, grapes, tomatoes and brown rice.

ACleanLife24

ecmb said:

ACleanLife24 said:

Prenatal vitamins also do not include essential nutrients for baby development such as choline, betadine, glycine and omega-3's.

Tell me more about these and where I can get them.

Right now I'm eating a lot of protein (chicken, eggs, pork, beef, shellfish and fish), collard greens, mushrooms, apples, bananas, strawberries, grapes, tomatoes and brown rice.

Choline best source is egg yellows... I am currently writing an article and will find more

Glycine is in the bones and joints of animals so home made bone broth and stock is best

And omega 3 is going to be your wild oily fishes (salmon, sardines, anchovies) if you do supplement it's the level of EPA and DHA to be between 1000-2000mg not just the volume of the supplement

As far as betadine I need to look more into I I happened to already take it as I need to take hcl for digestion (they come together) but I am not sure where it comes from naturally

Also if you like collards and looking to add some fermented food look up Chef Edward Lee... He does a collards, kimchi and bacon that is freaking amazing

g8trkim

No offense to my baby, but right now I'm just concerned about eating things that don't smell like a$$ or make me vomit.

ACleanLife24

inomniaparatus said:

I don't know how you jumped to me blaming "fat people" for getting that way from what I said. You came off very preachy in your op and I said I, personally, wasn't concerned about all the things you listed because I won't let myself gain too much weight. I don't have any medical issues so I am in control. Unfortunately, that's not the same for everyone but you were talking about food and obesity. Not medical issues and obesity. You want to share research on dietary suggestions. So we were clearly talking about the way we eat, health, obesity and the risks that accompany it. I am in control of what I eat, so I'm in control of my weight. That may not be the case for you but it's the discussion you opened up.

Really?  Not medical issues like the several other related conditions I specifically mentioned? And that I made a point about nutrient density not just quantity?   Also good luck with the whole "I control and will not gain much" mentality.... let me know in 8 months how that works out for you... 

ACleanLife24

g8trkim said:

No offense to my baby, but right now I'm just concerned about eating things that don't smell like a$$ or make me vomit.

I have not hit this yet... I am praying I don't either... I have a European tour planned in a month (based around food and wine) so I have given up the wine at least give me the ability to enjoy the French cooking!

Kiek

Okay I think it is safe to say there were a few harmless misunderstandings on here. No need for everyone to get their panties in a wad lol.

Life is Exciting

My diet is crap right now because of the morning sickness and exhaustion and working full time and caring for a toddler alone while hubby is in a busy travel period for work. I wish I could stomach more healthy things. Once I can, I hope to eat better. What's a good way to get folic acid naturally?

inomniaparatus

ACleanLife24 said:

inomniaparatus said:

I don't know how you jumped to me blaming "fat people" for getting that way from what I said. You came off very preachy in your op and I said I, personally, wasn't concerned about all the things you listed because I won't let myself gain too much weight. I don't have any medical issues so I am in control. Unfortunately, that's not the same for everyone but you were talking about food and obesity. Not medical issues and obesity. You want to share research on dietary suggestions. So we were clearly talking about the way we eat, health, obesity and the risks that accompany it. I am in control of what I eat, so I'm in control of my weight. That may not be the case for you but it's the discussion you opened up.

Really?  Not medical issues like the several other related conditions I specifically mentioned? And that I made a point about nutrient density not just quantity?   Also good luck with the whole "I control and will not gain much" mentality.... let me know in 8 months how that works out for you... 

I think you're confused. I said I don't have medical issues and your original post was about food and obesity- not medical issues.

I'm not trying to fight. I didn't say I wouldn't gain much. I said I wouldn't gain too much. I'll gain the recommended 20-30 lbs by the end of my pregnancy and then, after baby, I'll work to lose it. I'm not trying to insult you in any way. Good luck with everything

ACleanLife24

Life is Exciting said:

My diet is crap right now because of the morning sickness and exhaustion and working full time and caring for a toddler alone while hubby is in a busy travel period for work. I wish I could stomach more healthy things. Once I can, I hope to eat better. What's a good way to get folic acid naturally?

Folic acid us a man made chemical... folate is the natural methylated form that everybody can use. It's found in beans and greens (darker the better)

Italian wedding soup is a great recipe go get boh folate and glycine If it's homemade stock.... If you can stomach it I also like to roast some little pork meatballs and pop them in for some more protein

mrs3615

I usually eat well balanced meals, but right now, I'm just trying to keep things down, stay hydrated, and semi-enjoy my meal times. OP, honestly, your original post started to sound like the teacher from Snoopy to me, so unfortunately, I don't think I ended up actually "hearing" what you were trying to say. 

FreshBakedBrownies

Sorry, I think it sounds naive for anyone to say they are only going to gain the recommended 20-30lbs and then work it off once baby is here!

Nausea and food aversions causes many moms to just do the best they can with their diet. Many of us have to constantly nibble to keep the nausea away. This isn't due to lack of education on healthy eating.

Many moms have to be on exercise restriction after giving birth due to recovering from tears, c-section or other complications. Limiting calories caused big drops in my breastfeeding supply.

All I'm trying to say, is many things become out of control of your perfect plan when you're pregnant and even after you have your baby.

kayjay44

ss456 said:

Sorry, I think it sounds naive for anyone to say they are only going to gain the recommended 20-30lbs and then work it off once baby is here! Nausea and food aversions causes many moms to just do the best they can with their diet. Many of us have to constantly nibble to keep the nausea away. This isn't due to lack of education on healthy eating. Many moms have to be on exercise restriction after giving birth due to recovering from tears, c-section or other complications. Limiting calories caused big drops in my breastfeeding supply. All I'm trying to say, is many things become out of control of your perfect plan when you're pregnant and even after you have your baby.

Agreed. I'm a big proponent of planning but knowing it may or may not work out, so you (the royal you) might as well not get too attached.

inomniaparatus

magnumJ said:

ss456 said:

Sorry, I think it sounds naive for anyone to say they are only going to gain the recommended 20-30lbs and then work it off once baby is here!

Nausea and food aversions causes many moms to just do the best they can with their diet. Many of us have to constantly nibble to keep the nausea away. This isn't due to lack of education on healthy eating.

Many moms have to be on exercise restriction after giving birth due to recovering from tears, c-section or other complications. Limiting calories caused big drops in my breastfeeding supply.

All I'm trying to say, is many things become out of control of your perfect plan when you're pregnant and even after you have your baby.

Agreed. I'm a big proponent of planning but knowing it may or may not work out, so you (the royal you) might as well not get too attached.

Just want to be clear - I don't think women who gain more weight lack the proper education on food at all... It was never my intention to imply that. There's many reasons people put on more wight... Medical reasons, emotional reasons, etc.

I may be naive in thinking I won't put on more than 30 lbs. This is my first pregnancy so I'm not an expert in that arena. So be it... I hope I don't put on more but so what? Let me be naive about it... I'll be happier that way lol.

Good luck and happy eating to all!

Wurrkingurrl

I honestly didn't interpret the original post as being condescending, but I CAN see how some people might take it that way.  I for one am very concerned about what I eat much more then when I'm not pregnant.

@ACleanLife24 based on your signature pictures I'm guessing you are from England?  I think part of the confusion may come from that.... I can't speak for doctors in England specifically, but I have a lot of friends throughout Europe and Asia, and healthy eating is not stressed by their doctors the way it is here.  So while people are saying they know what is healthy and what isn't, and don't need someone to point it out to them I think we may have to take cultural differences into consideration before we get so mad.  

inomniaparatus

I'm sorry but if she's from England than the post definitely comes off as even more condescending...

"Not Fat Shaming but... basically the US is a society with 30% of the adult population obese which is linked to complications such as metabolic disease, type 2 diabetes and gestational diabetes..."

And the UK isn't one step behind with their obesity problem?

ecmb

inomniaparatus said:

I'm sorry but if she's from England than the post definitely comes off as even more condescending...

"Not Fat Shaming but... basically the US is a society with 30% of the adult population obese which is linked to complications such as metabolic disease, type 2 diabetes and gestational diabetes..."

And the UK isn't one step behind with their obesity problem?

She's from the U.S. but currently lives in the UK

camusoh2011

Right now I don't think about what I eat. If it sounds edible at the moment and I don't feel like vomiting I will eat a bite or two because that's all I can handle. I have to agree that pregnancy isn't an excuse to just eat and eat, but nausea has caused me to lose so much weight with each my pregnancies that at some point my doctors and nutritionists have asked me to just eat anything! With my first I was told that they didn't care if I ate taco bell every meal every day, I just needed to get calories. I've already lost 10 lbs from this pregnancy and I'm only 8 weeks in. Today I was able to eat more than I have in a couple of weeks. I had a small bowl of cereal for breakfast. half an egg and bacon sandwich for lunch, and water. Literally, that's all my body is allowing me to take in at the moment. Sometimes you just have to go with what you can keep down.

inomniaparatus

ecmb said:

inomniaparatus said:

I'm sorry but if she's from England than the post definitely comes off as even more condescending...

"Not Fat Shaming but... basically the US is a society with 30% of the adult population obese which is linked to complications such as metabolic disease, type 2 diabetes and gestational diabetes..."

And the UK isn't one step behind with their obesity problem?

She's from the U.S. but currently lives in the UK

Ok good - carry on

MississippiCatfish

I am generally on the thin side and watch what I eat. I remember thinking in the beginning of my first pregnancy, "I'll just watch it really closely and only gain 25 pounds - it will be so easy to take it off again." And I've gained 50lbs with each pregnancy. It's the way my body works. I've lost it all within a few months each time.

brushesnbrunch

While I'm all for healthy eating and habits..but with how I feel, I'm calling it a good day when I can eat anything - I don't care what it is.

cantobean

Yeah, this thread is just kind of irritating. Of course we all WANT to be eating super healthy for the babies. Sometimes it's hard!

I'm a little sensitive because I'm about 10 pounds overweight, and was in the process of losing when I got KU. I think about weight gain a lot, and it scares me. I'm not particularly unhealthy, but I do have a proclivity for carbs, and lately I have not been very interested in vegetables, despite that I have some lovely ones growing in my own garden. Although I don't have a lot of nausea, lots of foods just don't appeal to me right now.

I had a salad and soup for lunch, so bam. Small victories.