I thank everybody that tried to answer my questions. My question was really more about the health of the baby and not having to do with my experience personally. I just use that as an example because the placenta caused sepsis in me. So I was wondering if it could not cause an infection for the baby? In any case, I think that for me, I'd like to bank the cord blood.
Thank you so much for the information! I just don't think it's for me.
It doesn't seem healthy at all to me. When the placenta is delivered it is no longer attached to you therefore it is no longer functioning. To me it seems like you would be increasing your chances of sepsis. After all that placenta is tissue and would begin rotting. From the research I've done it doesn't seem like there's a lot out there on this. Seems awfully risky. I also agree with whomever else posted that no other mammal keeps the placenta attached.
Ok will try answer some ^points there is a lot raised so i might miss some so feel free to ask again! For stem cells its actually good to make sure the baby gets the blood rather than storing it to make sure the baby has it all.
*************** The baby doesnt have full circulation of blood to the organs that are not being used until after birth, as you continue to get contractions the placenta slowly lets more blood flow into the baby to fill up whats missing, nature is very clever it will make sure the baby gets the blood and not go back again. The baby also self regulates by crying it stops the blood flow which stops it happening too fast if necessary. ************
As regards to some placenta being left inside maybe this happens when the placenta has been forced out not been left to deliver naturally. I understand this isnt for everyone but i hope people consider at least delaying the cord being cut. For me cutting doesnt seem natural. Chimpanzees actually dont bite the cord like other animals. Most animals eat it, but for me i dont eat meat so this doesnt resonate. with me. Yes it can be more work and not how people imagine but for me its worth it. Also keeping it in teh right conditions can help it not smell etc. and you can put nice smelling herbs on it if you are worries about the smell.
So, the BS call comes from the above (between the ****, I'm mobile and can't highlight). What are you even talking about?
Also, the source of Lotus Birth is traced back to the 70's, a lady named Claire Lotus [LastName] who was also very much into yoga, wondered why people cut the cord, so she tried not cutting it. YOGA is its closest tie to ancient cultures.
Just as you might criticize someone's diet if you felt it was unhealthy for the baby, or their life choices (smoking, drugs, whatever) or as on another thread when I informed someone planning to put their baby on an early sleep schedule that it can cause FTT, I'm making sure people know that there is no credible science behind this. I'll link some articles below but the thought process of these "believers" is flawed. They consider the baby and placenta a single unit that shouldn't be unnaturally separated. The placenta dies after birth, the baby (hopefully) does not. One crazy lady compares cutting the cord to circumcision and FGM. Get a grip.
The Bump can be a great source of information but it can also be a source of misinformation. And unfortunately, too many people just don't know any better. When you know better, you do better.
it can be a spiritual things and infection is also a risk with the cut cord! thats why you have to treat it until it falls off.
Please leave it with the '"I call bs responses" I was not asking what your scientific views where more curious if others were doing it so we could support each other. Plenty of people are doing things i consider extremely bad for the baby especially with diets i see people eat but i dont go writing my opinions on that out of respect and knowing that people are doing as they please.
There are ancient cultures and tribes that have done this, its not just a new fad.
As a nicu nurse I can tell you, you do not need to treat the umbilical stump. Leaving it alone and keeping it as dry as possible is best. Treating it with alcohol, or anything that regularly wets the cord, is what will cause an infection.
So despite the warning to not Google image, I google imaged it. Yeah, won't be doing that! Thanks for the education though (both for and against- it's always great to know both sides of a decision!)
So despite the warning to not Google image, I google imaged it. Yeah, won't be doing that! Thanks for the education though (both for and against- it's always great to know both sides of a decision!)
BostonBaby1 not sure if this answers your second question or if I'm misreading your question. But with the lotus birth, you'd deliver the placenta normally. I would imagine it would have to be intact (when i gave birth mine came out intact. That doesn't happen in every birth and I would imagine that's a requirement for a lotus birth). That means that no placenta is left in your uterus. Your baby is out with it.
On your other question regarding cord blood banking: the two serve completely different uses. The cord blood banking you do in case there's anything in the future either in your baby or future siblings where brand new stem cells would help in the case of diseases like leukemia, thalassemia etc. In our case we chose to do it because my daughter had/has a congenital heart defect and it's recommended to be done for cardiac babies for future uses.
For lotus birth, I believe the research behind it is less established. I do know though that there are some risks associated with it, mostly relating to the placenta (a live organ) getting infected and passing the infection to the baby.
I think it's a very personal decision and probably everyone does their own research and decided accordingly. I don't plan on doing it but I am considering cord blood banking again.
BostonBaby1 not sure if this answers your second question or if I'm misreading your question. But with the lotus birth, you'd deliver the placenta normally. I would imagine it would have to be intact (when i gave birth mine came out intact. That doesn't happen in every birth and I would imagine that's a requirement for a lotus birth). That means that no placenta is left in your uterus. Your baby is out with it.
On your other question regarding cord blood banking: the two serve completely different uses. The cord blood banking you do in case there's anything in the future either in your baby or future siblings where brand new stem cells would help in the case of diseases like leukemia, thalassemia etc. In our case we chose to do it because my daughter had/has a congenital heart defect and it's recommended to be done for cardiac babies for future uses.
For lotus birth, I believe the research behind it is less established. I do know though that there are some risks associated with it, mostly relating to the placenta (a live organ) getting infected and passing the infection to the baby.
I think it's a very personal decision and probably everyone does their own research and decided accordingly. I don't plan on doing it but I am considering cord blood banking again.
How much is cord blood banking?
That depends on if you donate it or want to pay to keep yours. There are several places that do it. Here is one: https://www.cordblood.com/
Lotus births are more spiritual than anything else.
I wouldn't do it because i would rather consume my placenta for the nutrients.
Are you planning to eat it raw? If you're planning to have it processed and encapsulated, you're denaturing the components you claim to be gaining the benefit of. Save your money.
The little knowledge I have about placenta encapsulation - the placenta is placed in a cooler after it is delivered. Your spouse or other trusted person takes the cooler home to put the placenta in the freezer/fridge (not 100% sure which) to keep it fresh until the encapulator can do their thing. I don't **think** you could leave placenta attached until it falls off baby and then encapsulate (I liken it to buying a pound of beef today and carrying it around for a day or two and then cooking it - no way would that be safe!).
I've never heard of Lotus birth and found this thread to be interesting.
Lotus births are more spiritual than anything else.
I wouldn't do it because i would rather consume my placenta for the nutrients.
Are you planning to eat it raw? If you're planning to have it processed and encapsulated, you're denaturing the components you claim to be gaining the benefit of. Save your money.
I drank it raw in smoothies with my last and ill do it again with this one. @LC122
BostonBaby1 not sure if this answers your second question or if I'm misreading your question. But with the lotus birth, you'd deliver the placenta normally. I would imagine it would have to be intact (when i gave birth mine came out intact. That doesn't happen in every birth and I would imagine that's a requirement for a lotus birth). That means that no placenta is left in your uterus. Your baby is out with it.
On your other question regarding cord blood banking: the two serve completely different uses. The cord blood banking you do in case there's anything in the future either in your baby or future siblings where brand new stem cells would help in the case of diseases like leukemia, thalassemia etc. In our case we chose to do it because my daughter had/has a congenital heart defect and it's recommended to be done for cardiac babies for future uses.
For lotus birth, I believe the research behind it is less established. I do know though that there are some risks associated with it, mostly relating to the placenta (a live organ) getting infected and passing the infection to the baby.
I think it's a very personal decision and probably everyone does their own research and decided accordingly. I don't plan on doing it but I am considering cord blood banking again.
How much is cord blood banking?
That depends on if you donate it or want to pay to keep yours. There are several places that do it. Here is one: https://www.cordblood.com/
Exactly. I believe that there are three large cord blood banks and they have different costs and different storage facilities. You're going to want to look at a place that has a secure storage facility and a proven track record of being in business for a long time. I'm not exactly sure what the costs are but it's not inexpensive. However, if you can afford to do it I would say to go ahead and do it. The way that research is heading these days, stem cells are going to be more and more useful as the years pass. Hopefully you will never need them, but it's there in case if you do.
We were going to donate the cord blood until I learned the benefits of delayed cord clamping. Obviously you can't due both. We are opting for delayed cord clamping. My OB did say that we could donate the cord blood if we had an "excessive" amount. She said that if there is to much blood that goes into the baby it could actually do more harm than good.
Lotus births are more spiritual than anything else.
I wouldn't do it because i would rather consume my placenta for the nutrients.
Are you planning to eat it raw? If you're planning to have it processed and encapsulated, you're denaturing the components you claim to be gaining the benefit of. Save your money.
I drank it raw in smoothies with my last and ill do it again with this one. @LC122
You can always plan, but you never know what may happen. I would never do a lotus birth, but even if I wanted to it wouldn't have been an option. They had to send the placenta off for testing. Turned out there was quite a bit of blood indicating a placental abruption. DS was born at 32w 4d and they put in an umbilical catheter so his "stump" was removed so they could insert it. Also, I was completely sure he would have an outie, but his belly button is a slightly shallow innie.
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I looked into cord blood banking and delayed cord clamping before I gave birth to DD. We felt like hands down delayed clamping was the way to go, I'm surprised it's not the standard of practice yet.
As far as lotus birth I've been educated. Thanks for teaching me something new!
I just wanted to explain my reasons for wanting to bank the cord blood rather than do delayed cord clamping.
-sidebar, I will do whatever it is that my OB and MFM recommend.
Despite the fact that we have no genetic markers for cancer in my family, we have a very pervasive family history of cancer. To me, it makes more sense to bank the cord blood because the chances that I may need it in the future are greater than that of a woman whose family does not have a pervasive cancer history.
However, I made delay clamping for a short amount of time, and bank what remains. In any case, since I am no longer pregnant, I have plenty of time to look into this and do my homework thoroughly.
Lotus births are more spiritual than anything else.
I wouldn't do it because i would rather consume my placenta for the nutrients.
Are you planning to eat it raw?
If you're planning to have it processed and encapsulated, you're denaturing the components you claim to be gaining the benefit of.
Save your money.
I drank it raw in smoothies with my last and ill do it again with this one. @LC122
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little... :-&
Re: Lotus birth
Thank you so much for the information! I just don't think it's for me.
Also, the source of Lotus Birth is traced back to the 70's, a lady named Claire Lotus [LastName] who was also very much into yoga, wondered why people cut the cord, so she tried not cutting it. YOGA is its closest tie to ancient cultures.
Just as you might criticize someone's diet if you felt it was unhealthy for the baby, or their life choices (smoking, drugs, whatever) or as on another thread when I informed someone planning to put their baby on an early sleep schedule that it can cause FTT, I'm making sure people know that there is no credible science behind this. I'll link some articles below but the thought process of these "believers" is flawed. They consider the baby and placenta a single unit that shouldn't be unnaturally separated. The placenta dies after birth, the baby (hopefully) does not. One crazy lady compares cutting the cord to circumcision and FGM. Get a grip.
The Bump can be a great source of information but it can also be a source of misinformation. And unfortunately, too many people just don't know any better. When you know better, you do better.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3072021
https://www.lotusbirth.net/index.php/the-value-of-a-lotus-birth
https://nypost.com/2013/04/10/lotus-birth-craziest-trend-yet-dont-cut-that-umbilical-cord/
I wouldn't do it because i would rather consume my placenta for the nutrients.
Jamie
If you're planning to have it processed and encapsulated, you're denaturing the components you claim to be gaining the benefit of.
Save your money.
I've never heard of Lotus birth and found this thread to be interesting.
Exactly. I believe that there are three large cord blood banks and they have different costs and different storage facilities. You're going to want to look at a place that has a secure storage facility and a proven track record of being in business for a long time. I'm not exactly sure what the costs are but it's not inexpensive. However, if you can afford to do it I would say to go ahead and do it. The way that research is heading these days, stem cells are going to be more and more useful as the years pass. Hopefully you will never need them, but it's there in case if you do.
I would never do a lotus birth, but even if I wanted to it wouldn't have been an option. They had to send the placenta off for testing. Turned out there was quite a bit of blood indicating a placental abruption.
DS was born at 32w 4d and they put in an umbilical catheter so his "stump" was removed so they could insert it.
Also, I was completely sure he would have an outie, but his belly button is a slightly shallow innie.
As far as lotus birth I've been educated. Thanks for teaching me something new!
-sidebar, I will do whatever it is that my OB and MFM recommend.
Despite the fact that we have no genetic markers for cancer in my family, we have a very pervasive family history of cancer. To me, it makes more sense to bank the cord blood because the chances that I may need it in the future are greater than that of a woman whose family does not have a pervasive cancer history.
However, I made delay clamping for a short amount of time, and bank what remains. In any case, since I am no longer pregnant, I have plenty of time to look into this and do my homework thoroughly.
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little... :-&