carleyec93 you are absolutely wrong...we are one human kind the one that lives in this World. Did you know that since the revolution the French took out the world race from their dictionaries?
By using like they do in the US "Races" like sorry again animals...we perpetuate the classification of humans and continue the "racism" that exists in this World. Your baby is NOT mixed...s/he not a blended like an "ice-cream" or something like that...because by saying "mixed" you are implying tacitly that there's something that is "pure"...
And like a very famous italian feminist of the 20's use to say and I strongly believe it. "Someone who speaks about races is a racist..."
Your baby will have a different ethnical heritage and also a cultural background of whom s/he can feel proud about it, but that doesn't mean that her/his skin color should classify her.
I come from 4 grandparents who all of them are from different countries and ethnical background...I love the richness of our culture and that I also was born in Mexico; still I never classify people from their skin color...
p.s. I also pray that my child and your baby girl doesn't come through people like you that loves to classify humans because of their "percentage" of ethnical background
@DaddyMx I think you're confusing the word race with skin color specifically. Segragation and racism are not the same thing. My daughter is indeed "mixed race" and there are children who are "pure" (your word not mine) meaning they come from ONE race only. My husband being that way. He is "pure" Puertoriccan. His mother is 100% and his father is 100%. There are no other races in his genetic make up. I, however, am mixed. My father was born in Mexico and is of the Hispanic race. My mother is Norwegian through and through. So I am made up of half Hispanic, half Norwegian. In case you were unaware, (which I believe you are) the word race in regards to people is defined as "a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics." I have attached the definition below for your reference. There is nothing mentioned there about skin color. Period. That is an extention of the word that society tacked on. Nobody and I repeat NOBODY on this thread had said anything negative about their child's mixed races and/or skin color. But it is well known that mixed race children are often unpredictable as far as predicting appearances. Moreso than a child who isn't mixed race. If you have a couple whom are both Irish, for example, with blonde hair and blue eyes, you have a pretty good chance of guessing what your child will look like. Most likely, light skin, blonde hair, blue eyes. Because that child is only one race: Irish. Someone is a racist when they think one race is superior to others. That is not the case here.
If someone on this thread had said, "My Black, White, Indian, child is more smart/beautiful/valued than your Chinese/Puertoriccan/Mexican child because my child is Black/White/Indian then THAT would be racist and that would not go over well with me at all. Like I said, that is not what happened here. We are all human beings, but that doesn't mean we're all cookie cutter the same. We all have different races. That is something to be celebrated, but in the past, it was not. I take pride in being mixed race because I experience different cultural traditions that accompany each race. Does that mean ANY race is less valued or less deserving of anything? Does that mean it is okay to make judgements about someone because of their race(s) or think they are any less capable of anything? Absolutely not. And that was never said.
As I mentioned, I hope my daughter's experience with opinions like yours is brief or nonexistant. I hope she meets people who celebrate her different races and think she is beautiful and unique because of it. I hope she doesn't feel the need to conform to one race because people feel uncomfortable about her discussing her multiracial and multicultural household. & I hope she meets people that make her feel like she is unique and special for a lot of things, but yes, her race does contribute to that. In a very positive way. Race does not equal skin color. That is a very naive and ignorant way to think.
@carleyec93 I would 'like' your previous posts one-thousand times if I could but, I'm only allowed one like :-q Thank you for explaining the importance of embracing multi-racial heritages instead of simply ignoring racial differences. I hope our kiddos understand how amazingly unique they are.
I'm a little surprised @Miz_Liz hasn't shown up on this thread yet to calm down my crazy bursts of pure frustration
Your "bursts" aren't crazy. If there were people on this thread who were insinuating superiority based on the ethnicities of their unborn children, I would understand where @Daddymx is coming from 100%. I agree with her points. However, saying that race/ethnicity shouldn't be mentioned at all is odd to me. I'm not saying it's something that has to be discussed, because it doesn't necessarily. But having such a strong opinion in the opposite direction almost places a stigma on the conversation. Like "Don't Ask Don't Tell" in the military. Why does where you come from have to be hush hush? Nobody is saying it's a bad thing. We're on this thread celebrating our children's differences.
@Daddymx, if everyone who discusses race is indeed racist (which you're implying we are), why would we have all fallen in love with someone of a different background? Calling someone a racist is very inflammatory, hurtful, and in this case ignorant. And it does not at all describe the conversation we were all trying to have...
@kjandericka I really hope so too. I hope she feels connected to all aspects of her heritage and doesn't ever feel the need to identify with or celebrate just one. I don't see why anybody would want to. We're all unique and special and race is one aspect of that. I remember having a friend who was Turkish and Dominican. He referred to himself as TurkMinican and he would often talk about how much he loved the Turkish culture he saw through his mother and the Dominican culture he experienced through his dad. Someone referred to him once as only Turkish and he was really offended. He felt like his Dominican culture was being completely disregarded as being an important aspect of who he was. My husband made this strange Puertoriccan dish last night with green olives and peppers (nothing like the Hispanic food I grew up on) and he said, "I can't wait to make this for our daughter someday and tell her about her culture." I thought "how lucky is she." To have so many cultures to experience within the comfort of her own family and to feel at home in every one is something that wasn't always acceptable or available.
@carleyec93 I feel more frustrated than you. I will just call it off I believe we are ethnical and intellectual strong differences + I resist to call myself "mixed" like a dog.
@messymolly08 my answer was to Carley not to the thread. I strongly as I said that speaking about races perpetuates the racism and putting names to people.
@DaddyMx And I will say it again, please stop referring to mixed race as a "dog." Its very offensive to people who choose to celebrate their different races. Have a nice day. :-h
@Daddymx I see where you're coming from, I really do. But I don't think we need to change the conversation itself, just the tone of the conversation. Should someone's ethnic background be the focal point of how we identify them as a person? Of course not. Is it an aspect of who they are that gives them more depth as a human being? Absolutely. I think that the discussion of race and the direction it goes is entirely up to the person speaking and that person's mindset. But that's the case with everything in this world! There will always be people who can't see the positivity in something but that doesn't mean that the rest of us should keep quiet. To each his own! If I want to celebrate my babies multicultural background I will. To hell with whoever sees that as a negative thing.
@DaddyMx And I will say it again, please stop referring to mixed race as a "dog." Its very offensive to people who choose to celebrate their different races. Have a nice day. :-h
@DaddyMx And I will say it again, please stop referring to mixed race as a "dog." Its very offensive to people who choose to celebrate their different races. Have a nice day. :-h
This whole "dog" reference makes my blood boil. Ignorance is alive and well.
Edit: I can't do gifs... But insert Kevin harts face over the baby's and that fits my reaction better.
I'm Irish/English/Cherokee, with fair skin and dark hair. Hubby is Swedish/Puertorican (not sure what else because his fathers not in the picture), with red hair and skin that doesn't burn like mine lol!! We think our girl will be a redhead like her daddy.
@pabeybaby My mom and brothers all have red hair but it skipped me My husband gets red hairs in his beard so we're hoping that our baby girl is a red head! I love red hair I think it's so unique. She'll be beautiful regardless (before I get accused of being prejudiced against brunettes and blondes lol) but it would be cool if she took after her grandma!
@messymolly08 I love red hair too. I'm due the 15, so LO is likely to be a Leo. (The 23 it goes to Libra) wouldn't it be crazy to have some feisty red headed Leo girls? The whole world will be in trouble! Lol
This whole conversations irritates me as much as people who say they don't "see color". Unless you are color blind, you see color. Now whether or not someone's "color" influences your thoughts/actions is a whole different matter. By identifying someone's pride and self awareness of being multi-racial or "mixed" isn't racist or putting "pure" people above or below everyone. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging our differences, celebrating differences does NOT mean placing any other group above or below. But refusing to acknowledge differences shuts down conversations and really minimalizes or excludes any group that is not a part of the dominant culture.
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Haha I totally understand! My BF is a libra n was hoping our son would of been one too. But there's noooo way he's staying in that long! So Virgo it is! @pabeybaby
Yeah the dog reference is extremely offensive. I would understand if we were calling our multiracial children mutts, but mixed is not something I associate with dogs. Our kids are going to be mixed: a mix of different racial groups and ethnicities... It just describes their make up, it's neither better nor worse than someone of a single race. I guess they could be called combination kids? We could start a new trend.
Heck, if you're stuck on the "mixed" term, there are so many other great "mixed" things... Who doesn't love a good mixed drink??
My partner is Kenyan and I'm mixed English and jamaican. Our cultures are different but it's interesting and sometimes funny when we have different views on things. I find it fun
Technically all our babies will be mixed race! And what a wonderful world it is with so many points of view and cultures to celebrate.. It's One positive thing about this century. I'm very curious to see what my baby looks like! I've never met my father so I don't know what traits could be passed down.
Some are making this conversion way deeper than it was intended. France is the perfect example of how ignoring race does nothing to eliminate racism, segregation, and discrimination.
Not that there's anything terribly unique about it, but ourLO will be afro-latino. We have one daughter and we teach her to acknowledge and love all her history. Between me and my siblings, we have a very diverse bunch. I love that we look like the United nations on holidays. Ignoring that would be a disservice to our children.
@Miz_Liz I need to start getting on TB on an actual computer more often! I've only been mobile since the beginning, but now I'm realizing all the things I'm missing out on!
@Miz_Liz I need to start getting on TB on an actual computer more often! I've only been mobile since the beginning, but now I'm realizing all the things I'm missing out on!
I just get frustrated pecking like a chicken to type. I type insanely fast with a keyboard so I get frustrated being slowed down, especially when heated and I have a lot I want to say!
Re: Mixed Race Babies
If someone on this thread had said, "My Black, White, Indian, child is more smart/beautiful/valued than your Chinese/Puertoriccan/Mexican child because my child is Black/White/Indian then THAT would be racist and that would not go over well with me at all. Like I said, that is not what happened here. We are all human beings, but that doesn't mean we're all cookie cutter the same. We all have different races. That is something to be celebrated, but in the past, it was not. I take pride in being mixed race because I experience different cultural traditions that accompany each race. Does that mean ANY race is less valued or less deserving of anything? Does that mean it is okay to make judgements about someone because of their race(s) or think they are any less capable of anything? Absolutely not. And that was never said.
As I mentioned, I hope my daughter's experience with opinions like yours is brief or nonexistant. I hope she meets people who celebrate her different races and think she is beautiful and unique because of it. I hope she doesn't feel the need to conform to one race because people feel uncomfortable about her discussing her multiracial and multicultural household. & I hope she meets people that make her feel like she is unique and special for a lot of things, but yes, her race does contribute to that. In a very positive way. Race does not equal skin color. That is a very naive and ignorant way to think.
@messymolly08 my answer was to Carley not to the thread. I strongly as I said that speaking about races perpetuates the racism and putting names to people.
Edit: I can't do gifs... But insert Kevin harts face over the baby's and that fits my reaction better.
@carleyec93 you go girl hehe
I love red hair too. I'm due the 15, so LO is likely to be a Leo. (The 23 it goes to Libra) wouldn't it be crazy to have some feisty red headed Leo girls? The whole world will be in trouble! Lol
Prego brain moment? Hehe
Heck, if you're stuck on the "mixed" term, there are so many other great "mixed" things... Who doesn't love a good mixed drink??
I'm very curious to see what my baby looks like! I've never met my father so I don't know what traits could be passed down.
Not that there's anything terribly unique about it, but ourLO will be afro-latino. We have one daughter and we teach her to acknowledge and love all her history. Between me and my siblings, we have a very diverse bunch. I love that we look like the United nations on holidays. Ignoring that would be a disservice to our children.
I just get frustrated pecking like a chicken to type. I type insanely fast with a keyboard so I get frustrated being slowed down, especially when heated and I have a lot I want to say!
"Dogs"? I can't even believe I just read this garbage.
**exiting stage left*