Wiggle wiggle

BabyVAZ

ok. I know there are lots of you that don't believe that we can feel the baby but help me understand this. I'm 12 weeks 2 days. And it feel like there is a dance party in my belly. I kid you not. My husband has felt it and you can even see it its you stare at my belly when I'm in my back. Anyone else having a dance party wiggle wiggle session. It's been 4 days now. This morning being a lot more aggressive. I worry she's not happy in there ? Maybe trying to be comfortable. Is this her/his way of telling me something. Feedback welcome. But please don't think I'm crazy cause trust me I'm all about science and this preggo ain't crazy

313Meg

Could it be muscle spasms?? Especially if the intensity is changing...

BabyVAZ

I thought about that ... But Ive has muscle spasms before. This isn't like that at all. There is no discomfort either I should of mentioned. More of a pull and release feel then like a butterfly feeling.

e2wire

Is it constant?

BabyVAZ

From 7 to 8 every 3 or 4 minutes. From 8 to 9 every 10-15 minutes. Now I haven't felt one in about 7 minutes. I've noticed every morning I have the same movement when I'm lying in bed waiting to get up.

e2wire

Maybe twins!?

313Meg

I guess I just have a hard time w the intensity increasing thinking it's baby.
I have muscle spasms that don't hurt.
It could also be poop moving through. I feel mine often

BabyVAZ

Lol. Def not poop. I'm very body aware and this has never ever happened until 4 days ago. Can't be poop. I wish I could upload a video. It really feels like 2 quick wiggle wiggle. Like there butterflies trying to get my attention. Muscle spams for days on end I've never had either. I've had in the back on my legs even that twitch in the eye. But this is in my belly right where the baby is. That's a pretty odd coincidence?! My bowls could never do this. Plus I already went this morning. Hehehe

313Meg

Humm ok. Well hope everything is ok.

BabyVAZ

Thanks is there a reason you would think it wouldn't be ?

BabyVAZ

They thought that at first because of my high hgc but I had a ultrasound at 8w4days. Just one baby in there. I should mention I was a side 2. I have already put in 7 lbs. I'm shocked but I also have a tiny short torso. I'm also that freak that can feel when I'm ovulating. That's how we got preggers. I'm very in tunned with my body, until now when I have not a clue what this. Baby is the only thing that makes sense to me so far unless anyone else has suggestions

Hoppyhead

Gas?

LinMmmm

I'm a little skeptical that it's baby you're feeling from what you've written. Also baby is still pretty low and not in your belly area if that is where I think you mean. There are a lot of changes happening to our bodies and I'm not just talking about gas. Intestines and organs shifting, more blood flow, and stretching muscles just to name a very few. I feel many (usually FTMs) assume it's baby but never consider all the other internal changes going on that comes along with pregnancy. I'm 13w and feel things all the time and never assume it's baby. When I feel him/her for the 1st time I want to be pretty certain that it's baby I'm feeling. I don't think you're crazy but this is my honest opinion.

BabyVAZ

Thanks for your honest opinion. Our doctor is available to us for questioning. At this point I'm going to ask her because it can't be gas or muscle twitching never had organs move before not a clue what that would feel like but I've sent my doctor the video of it and detailed explanation. Hopefully she will be back to me today. I have been very fortunate. Not gas ( like bloating and farts ) and regular poops when normally I am not regular. As long as you guys don't think there is anything wrong with me. I'll feel better. There is no pain for discomfort at all. Just wiggles.

313Meg

I don't think anything is wrong but I'm not a doc. I didn't say good luck bc I want you to worry. I guess I also find it hard to be baby. And especially for you to feel and see baby on the outside. Baby is not big enough nor strong enough. Let us know what your doc says

BabyVAZ

I also got a Notification from the bump today saying the baby is developing reflexes and that if you provock her body she will likely move. Not sure what that means or how I could be provoking

bbrady1031

Hey girl! If you say it's baby then YEAH I'm super excited for you! This is my first and I can't wait to feel my little pooh bear moving around in there. Go baby! Go baby! Go baby! That's my little cheer for your babe! Could be saying hey mom watch this as he/she wiggles around

313Meg

Absolutely your baby is moving. But like I said to feel it on the outside... Your baby is roughly 2 inches.
But if your doc says you are feeling baby then good luck at 38 weeks! Haha kidding, kind of.
But if you are, you will be one of a every small group of people who can feel this early.

Melissadmag

I know that when I lay flat on my stomach I can see the pulse jump in my belly, and after I try to use my doppler I'll get spasms, kinda like muscle spasms.....maybe it's your pulse, or your muscles? I can feel movement too but it's too on beat to be anything other than my pulse at the moment......

fiorip

As a previous poster said, a lot of things are happening with our bodies right now other than bowel movements and gas. Baby is teeny tiny at 12 weeks and your uterus is stretching and shifting at this point, could be what you're feeling, it would certainly make sense to see the uterus shifting out of your pelvis, which is what makes me hesitate in your case, I don't think baby is strong enough yet for you to see it from the outside. Anyhow, it is a more than exciting time and I bet all of us can't wait to feel baby moving. Let us know what doctor said

BabyVAZ

Doctor prob will only call back tomorrow. But I have my generic sono tomorrow anyways. It's not a pulse. Seriously the bump needs to have the option for videos. You guys would be freaked out. I'm telling you. I'm ok boot science and I completely see why some of your are skeptical but at this point it's the only thing that makes sense. It has stopped now for about an hour. Did the same this the last few days. Then when I like down wiggle wiggle starts in no means is it like a kick I've seen those and felt them on my sister. It's like a flutter and pull. Funny enough when I eat I've notice it stops.

CMDD

It sounds just like your digestive system.

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VesperLove

I cant speak for every pregnancy, obviously, but Im with the ladies that say it cant be baby. I know you say it just cant be any of those other options people have given because youve had them before... but as a FTM, you havent. All of those things are different while pregnant. It's all new experiences and going off of what you experienced before pregnancy is like comparing apples to oranges. Obviously wait to hear what your doc says and go off of that, but i dont think any of these ideas can be ruled out based on previous experience. Just my two cents.

As for me, by the way you describe these feelings, ive felt them too. Not as consistent, but the same as youre describing. To me, ive written it off as blood flow, a moving uterus, expansion of that whole area, etc. I don't believe its gas either but i def don't think something less than one ounce can be felt, less alone seen, from the outside just yet.

dp1320

When you feel the baby in a few weeks you'll say oh, maybe that was gas

BostonBaby1

CMDD said:

It sounds just like your digestive system.

I have Crohn's disease, so I used to be very thin. Way too thin actually. At my thinnest I was 5'7" and 93 lbs. even when I weigh 117 pounds, I can see everything in my intestinal tract moving. (i'm huge now but that's a different thread) You said that you were a size too so I'm just thinking that maybe this might make sense to you?

So, I'm not talking about poop or gas. Although I could see gas moving through my stomach visibly. When you eat, it takes hours for your food to get digested. As your food moves through your G.I. tract and your intestines, your intestines contract and release in order to push the food along. So, this can often times feel like fluttering or other odd sensations. Now that your uterus is expanding your intestines have less room. So, you're going to be feeling things that you were not feeling before. And, since you're so in tune with your body… You will probably notice these feelings now.

However, I definitely want to hear what your doctor says! Good luck with everything tomorrow.

preggoandglowing

I'm really hoping you come back and post that your doctor says it's baby. Rooting for ya!!

thegingeravenger

If it was only you feeling it, there would be a very small chance that it could be your baby. Maybe you are, who knows? However, there is a 0% chance that anyone other than you can feel your baby doing The Wobble inside of you at this point. 

BabyVAZ

Doctor called back. And yes she said it is very possible. She has a few patients a year that swear by it. I'm still not sure but I will have to trust my gut and what my doctor says thanks for the positive comments to some of you ladies. For the non believers it never hurt to open your minds a little more. Trust me when I say that I thought it was impossible and not a chance. After confirmation from my doctor and her seeing the video she says she doesn't rule anything out. So we shouldn't either. Have nice Sunday ladies. Rest up

redfallon

You can put videos up on TB. Upload the video to Youtube and then link it here. 

ammnam14

That's amazing!! My mom always felt little butterflies and flutters around 12-13 weeks enjoy this exciting time!

missemmawoodhouse

I find it highly unlikely that anyone can feel a baby from the outside at 12w.

BostonBaby1

BabyVAZ said:

Doctor called back. And yes she said it is very possible. She has a few patients a year that swear by it. I'm still not sure but I will have to trust my gut and what my doctor says thanks for the positive comments to some of you ladies. For the non believers it never hurt to open your minds a little more. Trust me when I say that I thought it was impossible and not a chance. After confirmation from my doctor and her seeing the video she says she doesn't rule anything out. So we shouldn't either. Have nice Sunday ladies. Rest up

That's awesome that your doctor said it's a definite possibility!

I'm not trying to be negative, and I'm definitely not saying that it's not your baby moving. I'm just curious if your doctor said that it definitely was? Because that would be confirmation. Saying that it's definitely a possibility does not definitely confirm it.

I am curious, since you seem to have The ability to send her the video, did she have any other comments or ideas of what it might be? I'm just curious because for the majority of women that cannot feel the baby move at this time, or for the few ladies that feel their babies moving… Maybe she had some suggestions of what it could be if it wasn't definitely the baby?

redfallon said:

You can put videos up on TB. Upload the video to Youtube and then link it here. 

Would you mind uploading the video Please? I think it would be really insightful for all of us!

BabyVAZ

Hi ladies. I got my answer from my doctor and I'm finding this thread getting very negative which is why I was hesitant on positing. It's kinda disappointing that some women on the bump belittle others. I've seen it in other threads and has made reluctant to post some of my thoughts or feelings. If I had a YouTube account I would post, but I don't and as much as I would love to help the few all I have to say is trust your feelings keep an open mind and talk to your doctor. Be kind ladies I'm off this thread. Thanks again for taking the time

Uwannalala

These baby moving threads are so freaking strange.

It doesn't make someone mean or negative if their opinion differs than yours. Especially if the post specifically request opinions. ( I don't remember if this one did.)

They always seem to morph into this weird faith vs science thing. It's fascinating and frustrating but Goes great with a bowl of popcorn.

redfallon

BabyVAZ said:

ok. I know there are lots of you that don't believe that we can feel the baby but help me understand this. I'm 12 weeks 2 days. And it feel like there is a dance party in my belly. I kid you not. My husband has felt it and you can even see it its you stare at my belly when I'm in my back. Anyone else having a dance party wiggle wiggle session. It's been 4 days now. This morning being a lot more aggressive. I worry she's not happy in there ? Maybe trying to be comfortable. Is this her/his way of telling me something. Feedback welcome. But please don't think I'm crazy cause trust me I'm all about science and this preggo ain't crazy

Even when you get to where you can feel the baby moving around a lot (around 15-20 weeks) I'm not sure that's it them trying to tell you anything. They automatically move around all the time when awake. They are stretching and practicing moving everything. At this point, babies have all kinds of room. I do not think that they are complaining about being uncomfortable. 

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koala1107

This has by far been the most positive thread I've seen about this so far so it's pretty ridiculous to say you've gotten negative answers. It's possible it's the baby, it's also possible it's not. I think where a lot of people find it hard to believe is that you can see it from the outside which normally wouldn't happen for another 8-10 weeks or so at least. Either way it's changes because of pregnancy and it's an exciting thing, but don't post on here and expect every answer to agree. Differing opinions do not equal an attack so don't take it so personally.

BostonBaby1

Uwannalala said:

These baby moving threads are so freaking strange.

It doesn't make someone mean or negative if their opinion differs than yours. Especially if the post specifically request opinions. ( I don't remember if this one did.)

They always seem to morph into this weird faith vs science thing. It's fascinating and frustrating but Goes great with a bowl of popcorn.

Agree! The strangest part about the end of your comment to me, is that I agree with the faith versus science disagreement… However I believe in science and I also have a very strong faith.

To the OP, I don't think that anybody was being unkind to you. You made a post and this is a public forum. The only reason I was asking if you could upload the video is because we have had so many threads on here with similar issues that blew up. Since your dr. said it was a definite possibility, I just thought that it would be nice for us all to be able to see the video. I'm sure that there are a lot of women on here that want to congratulate you. And there are others that want to see that this is a possibility. It says right in the user guide lines that not everybody is going to agree with you and you make a post, and there's no problem with that. No one personally attacked you or said anything that should make you want to run away from your thread.

In any case, if you're done with this thread, then that is clearly your choice. But please understand that it is disappointing to others that have been paying attention to what it is that you are saying and giving their input and then you just basically turn your back and run away.

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TacoSarah

I've got to say I find it hard to believe, I just don't see how it could be so I'd love to see the video. I'm 18 weeks and I've felt the baby kick once and certainly never seen my belly move and my baby is very active. It's unusual to feel the baby at 12 weeks, never mind see it moving your belly.

I also have a sneaking suspicion given the OP's last post that this is MUD.