October 2015 Moms

Anyone terrified of having a girl?

I found out about 4 weeks ago that we are having a girl.  My first thought was, "great, she's going to hate me in 15 years."  I really don't want to start my child's life with negative stuff floating around in the back of my head.  My mother and I had a very tenuous relationship from the time I was about 13 until now.  I was an exceedingly difficult teenager with drug problems and I had a very hot temper on top of it.  We got into horrible fights that sometimes turned physical.  I am sure a lot of my behavior was situational - my parents fought my whole life, my father was terrifying, my parents divorced when I was 15, my father came out to our family shortly after the divorce, and my mother had a major illness just prior to the divorce and is also an alcoholic.  It was a rough time, and I definitely acted out. Though I finally grew up a little (got clean/sober at 19 and became financially independent), things never quite got better with my mom. We are polite to each other, but I can tell that there's so nasty stuff brimming just under the surface.  I have attempted to work things out with her, but she is still drinking and I don't think any therapy will help us until she takes responsibility for her issues.  

Anyway, the point of this isn't to tell you my whole life story, but to set the stage for why I'm having such fears about having a little girl.  I can tell that my mom resents me, and a small part of me already feels like I resent the person I've pegged my daughter to become.  I'm not asking for advice - I know how to get help if I need it and I am capable of self-reflection.  What I would like is for some other people to offer their experience.  Do you have a bad relationship with your mom?  Is it causing you some fear about raising your own daughter?  How do you cope with the fear and negative feelings?  
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  • Me and my mother have a very good relationship, she's always helped me through my worst, I was 18, when I had my son, she helped me on my feet , I love having a boy, because he's mommys baby and he's so attached, but I think if I have a girl this time she will also be mommys Sook !
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  • Your story sounds very similar to mine except my mom left me when I was 8. She wanted to go party and not be a mom. I had serious substance abuse problems as did she. I got clean just before I turned 20, I got my head out of my ass and took care of my business. My mom lived with me on and off for the next 10 years,she can't/won't take care of herself. She has serious mental and emotional problems and I tried to help as best I could. She lived with us up until about 8 months ago. While I Have a decent Relationship with my mom and I love her dearly, she would manipulate things fir sympathy. She tried to manipulate my marriage and try to make me feel guilty for just about everything. She would tell me that my husband wanted her to do insane things like carry 80 pound bags of topsoil down 2 flights of stairs (she's disabled) and swear by it, but I know my husband and he would never. It got to the point that I felt torn between being a good wife, a good mom to my son and to be caretaker for my mother who would have to coddle and baby her fir fear of her turning the atmosphere in our home into shear hell until she felt she got her way. I had to stop it. She is now living with my brother. I just didn't want my son to feel that this was normal.

    I'm sorry this is so long, and while I have a bit of fear when it comes to raising a girl (if we are having one idk yet) my advice for you is to break the cycle and constantly remind yourself that you are not your mother! It doesn't have to be the way it was for you. It certainly won't for my children. Good luck!
  • @wildbutterfli2001, not too long.  It's nice to hear your story.  Thanks for sharing :)  I am really hoping that just being so aware of the issues with my mom will help me to "break the cycle."  My husband and I have a great, not at all abusive relationship.  We don't fight violently, we don't abuse drugs or alcohol, and we both desperately want our child to grow up in a house that is loving and not at all scary.  I really hope that those things are enough until we figure out what we're doing and how to not make the same mistakes our parents did!  
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  • Environment changes more than you would think. If you raise your daughter in a stable loving home than you have nothing to worry about.
  • My mom was awful. She wasn't an addict or alcoholic, she was just crazy, not maternal, physically abusive. I moved out at 15.

    I am also having a girl and I'm not worried at all. I learned from my mom what type of mother I didn't want to be. Learning from our parents mistakes is all we can do.
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  • My mom lost her mother to cancer when she was 8. She didn't know what a mother should be, but knew she wanted to be an amazing mother to her children, even though she didn't really have a guide to use. She is my best friend and I don't know what I would do without her.

    I think it's perfectly acceptable to start from scratch, if you will. Be the mother you'd want for yourself. Make sure your child always knows she's loved and accepted. Being a girl mom is amazing and even at 2.5yo, my daughter and I have a fantastic relationship and she knows how much she is loved. Don't allow your relationship with your mom hinder your relationship with your daughter.
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  • My mother is amazing and was a great mother despite not having the best experience to look back on. Her mother was either absent/neglectful, or controlling/manipulative, so she was more than eager to get away as soon as she was old enough. They still kept in contact when I was younger, sometimes awkwardly (probably partially for mine and my sister's sake), but several years ago my grandmother pseudo-secretly moved away without telling pretty much anyone. My mom is "done" with her, and aside from the one time that my mom told me she felt abandoned by her own mother, she is so strong and resilient and has moved past it. She was able to learn how to be a good mother to me and my sister, despite having a pretty crummy example of what a mom should be.

    Long story short, I think the fact that you're able to voice your fears and identify them, rather than hide from them, means you're already well on your way to preparing yourself to be the best mother possible to this little one! 
    :-*

    And, if it makes you feel any better, despite having a great mother myself, I'm terrified at the prospect of having a little girl...and I'm not even really sure why, haha! 
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  • My mom and grandma have a terrible relationship and it's because my grandma can't see past her own regrets and personal issues. My mom knew she wanted to have a different relationship with me and my sister so she did. She chose us over her own issues every day and works hard to let go of regrets. Regrets can ruin relationships when all you really want deep down is to be loved and accepted. My mom would give anything to have a good relationship with her mom but she can't control who her mom is. She can only control how she treats her own children. My mom sister and I are best friends and it's because of my mom. She has worked so hard to create a healthy environment for us even though her mom is a mess. It hurts to be apart from my grandma but my moms the greatest.
  • I totally agree about having a healthy relationship with your s/o makes a huge difference. My mom had awful relationships and knows nothing but dysfunction and drama. I waited a long time (i was 29)to get married because I didn't want that for my life. I have an amazing husband whom I live dealt. The foundation for my children's guide to healthy relationships! It sounds like your in a very similar position. You will be a great mom to your daughter!
  • I think it's about starting fresh. I'm like the opposite of you. I had three brothers growing up who were SO wild and crazy. One was sent to a wildernes camp and while he was away another died when he was hit by a car. As a result I have this terror inside that boys just have this total death wish and I would turn into a total helicopter if I had one.

    But my husband tells me over and over that if we end up having a boy one day (this one is a girl) that we would change the conversation and it wouldn't be the same. Maybe you could try to see a therapist? These issues we hang on to from our own upbringings can be powerful. I have an iffy relationship with my mom but I try to let it inform me and motivate me about all the things I'll do differently with my daughter. Very hard stuff, good luck :)

  • I was the worst to my mother. She was very distant and selfish and i was just bad. Drugs, sex, stealing her car, so much...we mended our fences a bit but once i became a mom we really overcame a lot. And now she is my best friend. My girls are my world and i think motherhood has been therapeutic for me. I see what i did wrong and what my parents did wrong, but it also helped me to realize that just because they were parents didn't mean they weren't humans with flaws. You do the best you can with what you have. Obviously your situation is different but as long as you are doing all that you can things should be fine. And there will be rough patches but as long as your child knows she is loved eventually it all works out.
  • Dont forget, you are not your mom and your daughter is not you. Its a completely different dynamic! Let me share with you another side of that story; Me and my mom.

    I wasnt exactly a model daughter, because of things that happened very early on in my childhood. I was raped by my grandfather, and that had its effects (and to an extent still does). My father was an alcoholic, and abusive one, to both me and my mother. To cope with both my grandfather and my father doing these things, I started acting out. I started dating and having sex when I was 12. My moms only reaction was to put me on birth control, and she allowed me to do as I wished because she knew it'd just get worse if she'd get in the way. I drank, I did drugs, I slept around, I stole, I self harmed to cope with it all.. but my mom just kept showing nothing but love and support. After all, she went through my dads abuse with me, she knew exactly what I was dealing with and though she tried, she couldnt protect me. They divorced when I was 13, but the court appointed them both custody, meaning Id be with mom one week and with dad another. She couldnt protect me there. I climbed out of the hole I was in around 16/17. Bit late really, as it has cost me my education and my self esteem is completely shattered. But my mom has always been there to pick up the pieces.
    Through all that, my mom and I are extremely close. Closer than a mother and daughter should be, really. I've never, ever, thought anything bad about my mom, and I know I never will. She's an angel, and if I had the choice to either go through all that a hundred times to keep her as my mom, or to instead be born into a perfect home.. I'd choose her every time.

  • I don't have a great relationship with my mom, we practically have no relationship. I wasn't raised by her, and for good reasons. With that being said, I'm pregnant with my third daughter, and I'm excited. Although I couldn't share with my mom what my daughters share with me, I learned what not to do from my mom and I'm thankful for that somehow.
  • Wow you all have such amazing stories of preserverance and survival thank you for sharing. My fears sound so trivial in comparison, I'm really just nervous about having a daughter because I have only boys and I'm not especially girly. Don't get me wrong I'm super excited but also scared of the unknown. I always hear from friends how girls have the attitudes and sass and I remember from childhood how ruthless girls could be but I myself was a very calm and obedient child unlike my brother who was the ultimate rebel! Yes girls are sensitive and emotional but believe it or not boys can be too. I just hope I can be for my daughter what my mother was for me, I was very lucky to be blessed with a great mom but I think at the end of the day that's what we want for all our kiddos regardless if they are boys or girls. At least now I'll have someone now to watch the girly Disney movies with and won't have to bribe my boys lol! I better get practicing on some hair though
  • JoEmilyGJoEmilyG member
    edited April 2015
    I'm scared of having a boy, because idk hiw to raise a boy and I only have a girl lol my hubby says not to worry of we do have a boy bit I still freak.

    But as far as you and your concerns, change the habit. :) always show her she is loved and have extra patience with her when you feel your temper is getting put of control. I use the breathing to ten slowly and teach her the same thing to stop crying and relax when she has something to tell me and she is upset. Building a bond is something to just work on from day one. Even if she can't answer you back with words she will show you with actions. Always have a good communication with her and always say the truth, that will help with trust and bonding. Me and my mother had a terrible start in my teen-young adult years. But we have built a bond like on other over the past 5 years, because I decided to relax and say sorry and start over. Build a bond, always keep that in mind and you and your baby girl will be inseparable. Blessings to you beauty!
  • jem89jem89 member
    I can really sympathize with you (and many other posters) because I had a rough upbringing too but I have created strict boundaries with both of my parents and they are wonderful additions to my children's lives. My husband and I purpose to have a peaceful home and I think we are doing a pretty good job. I have two girls (1 & 2) so I can say that I was nervous about girls but I feel so connected to them that I am sure we will handle the tumultuous teenage years together. I find out in roughly a month whether we will finally have a boy or have three girls so I can say that I am now nervous about the girl thing, mainly because I am nervous about three girls hitting puberty at the same time.
    Anyway, you seem like you are doing your best to change your family dynamics and I believe that you will have an amazing relationship with this little girl!
  • I am so grateful for this thread! I have such a huge fear of being an awful mom. Fortunately I am adopted, so I don't share her DNA. She was physically and mentally abusive and herself suffers from all kinds of mental illness. The only reason we are in contact is because I love my dad. I have such anxiety about telling her I'm pregnant that I can't even enjoy it. I know she will be excited, but the thought of handing my child over to someone so abusive and dangerous makes my skin crawl. I don't know if that means the end of my relationship with both of them or not. In the end my dad was there and never stopped it. Being pregnant gives me such a change of perspective! My heart goes out to you, and know you are not alone in your fears.
  • MrsMartin27MrsMartin27 member
    edited April 2015
    I've got a terrible relationship with my Mom. She is underhanded and sneaky and not a person I can bring myself to trust. With our first, when we found out it was a girl I felt the same way you mentioned. It's incredible what love can do. I'm nothing like my Mom and I have to keep reminding myself of that, but our daughter is one of the sweetest, most kind-hearted children I've been around. It's just her nature. I doubt that will ever change. Good luck! Life might surprise you...
  • I'm not sure why this would make you worry about having a girl? A boy or girl could have easily gone through the same issues you did under the circumstances and end in a rough relationship with their Mother. I don't think this should be strictly a girl situation.
    With that said, I have a wonderful relationship with my Mother. We are best friends and do everything together. It is possible to have a great relationship and it had always been this way. Did we argue during my teenage years? Of course! It was never an issue though.
    I honestly feel that it all has to do with parenting and how you raise your children. The fact that you are aware and concerned about that relationship and your children growing up differently than you did says a lot. You are already being a better parent than what you had by just being concerned and caring about your relationship with this baby.
  • zizohzizoh member
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    @wildbutterfli2001, not too long.  It's nice to hear your story.  Thanks for sharing :)  I am really hoping that just being so aware of the issues with my mom will help me to "break the cycle."  My husband and I have a great, not at all abusive relationship.  We don't fight violently, we don't abuse drugs or alcohol, and we both desperately want our child to grow up in a house that is loving and not at all scary.  I really hope that those things are enough until we figure out what we're doing and how to not make the same mistakes our parents did!  


    Reading this, I believe you're going to be a wonderful mother.

    Some people have difficult childhoods and get stuck and fail to learn from that painful experience to grow to give their own children what they lacked when they were young - and so the cycle continues and their children are given the same treatment if not worse.

    Others have a difficult time growing up but have enough wisdom and courage to learn how not to turn into what they were exposed to for so many years.

    I think you're definitely the second and from your post, seem have the foresight to think and reflect over this, to give your daughter the love, security and healthy environment in which to thrive as a well-rounded individual with character.

    Because you've been through so much, and are still experiencing difficult emotions towards your mother, its somewhat normal/expected to feel and think negatively about having a daughter- however, rather than being fearful of and fighting those thoughts, I think you need to focus on telling yourself what you want for her, and strongly believing that you will give her everything you want and need her to have. Because you can, and nobody has to be stuck in a sequence of emotional, mental, physical abuse and instability. We all have the ability to grow into the people we want to be, it just takes courage, fight, and an unwavering belief.

    And it seems you've already begun that process. Lots of love!
  • I Want A GirlSo I CanDo The Opposite Of What My MotherDid With Me. I'mTerrified OfHaving A Boy, I WillCry IfThat'sWhatWere Having. ButStill Love Him
  • Before we found out what DD would be, I told my mom that I was more nervous about having a girl than I thought I'd be. My sister and I get along now, but I remember some tumultuous years during high school when we, 3 years apart, could have blown the roof off the house. I was ready for our baby either way, but I needed my mom's reassurance, if for nothing more than for a little BTDT experience that I could understand. The only advice, "They don't come out teenagers." Well, as dumb as it sounds, that reminder made so much sense. Having a girl doesn't mean having a teenager, although that's what many women think about. Instead, remember that you're the one raising that little girl and your relationship with her will rely solely on that interaction, not on how your relationship with your mother was. If anything, it could be stronger because you know what didn't work for you. 

    I just left conferences tonight and spent the evening talking to the parents of my 9th and 12th grade students. Girls and boys alike, our kids will all go through some challenging phases, but they will be ours
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  • mkross123mkross123 member
    edited May 2015
    I am hoping for a boy because of this! I have a wonderful relationship with my mother, but teenage girls are difficult...even though ones without upheaval and drug issues! I deal with them on a daily basis and love them, but holy moly they are hard to read. Teenage boys come with their own set of difficulties, but they cycle through emotions more quickly and are MUCH easier to figure out. I know I will love a daughter and it will work out, but I am so on team boy for this first child. I am thankful we are finding out in a few weeks so I can readjust if it is a girl.

    The good news is, while strained during the teen years, it seems like most mothers and daughters end up very close. There will be times in fifteen years when your daughter is rude to you and acts like she hates you and like you are stupid (my favorite was when a friend of mine's fifteen year old daughter became embarrassed and enraged because my friend "got into the car a weird way. Ugh, so embarrassing!") You will surive, and if anything, I don't think you are being negative I think you are being realistic and your relationship will be better for it. If you KNOW that developmentally you will hit a rough patch together you are going to handle it SO MUCH BETTER than a mother picturing daisies and butterflies during the early-mid teen years :-)
  • vamomtobevamomtobe member
    edited May 2015
    I'll skip my story - I'll just say that i get the comment "how are you even related??" when people meet my family.  And I do love my family, I'm just not close to them and childhood is not full of fond memories.  I actually never thought I'd marry, because my views on love and marriage were so broken.  And even though I really wanted to have children, and my husband and I planned our first pregnancy, I was so scared of raising a child in general, boy or girl!  I never, ever want my son to cry himself to sleep, to want to hurt himself, to feel out of control.  

    Now that I am a parent, it makes some of the things my mom did seem even more insane - I can't imagine ever, ever saying the things she said to me to my child.  It makes me realize I am way better than that.  Far from perfect!  But my son is happy, and I am not going to make the same mistakes my parents did because I know I'm different.  It helps me that my mom is a long drive away, and she doesn't drive on highways.  So they see each other, but she'll never be close to my son, and that is really OK with me.

    I can imagine that having a daughter would make that fear more vivid, since you can put yourself in your daughter's shoes.  I'm not scared of having a girl this time around for that reason, though, now that I've had the chance to see that I'm a great mom!  Girls are scary for lots of other reasons...hormones, eek.


  • I have always had a tumultuous relationship with my mom. If anyone is familiar, she has borderline personality disorder. Basically, she is extremely manipulative, narcissistic, emotionally unstable and very irrational. Being around her is a constant feeling of walking on eggshells, waiting for her to explode. Sometimes she was a wonderful mother, other times she was a horrible mother. I was always a good kid, never involved with drugs or bad crowds, got good grades, etc, but constantly at the end of her wrath -- especially as I got older and developed my own life. I've known from a very young age that I DO NOT want to be like my mom, as a person or a parent. I have a mental list of the ways that I want to act/not act around my children in specific situations; it feels like I've been preparing for this moment for years, and I'd bet it is the same for you, even if you don't realize it now. Whoever said "you are not your mother and your mother is not you" is so right. I feel proud of myself when I find myself in a situation and react in a different, better way than my mother would have. I truly believe that RECOGNIZING the behaviors that you don't want to emulate is the biggest part..and you are doing that right now. OP, I think you will be a great mother to a girl!

    At this point my mom and I haven't spoken in over 4 years, after she went completely crazy when my dad divorced her. It is like a huge weight off my shoulders. But, I actually do think she will be a good grandmother. I was really close with both of my grandmoms and don't want to deny my child of that. At this point my hurdle is figuring out how to re-open my relationship with her while developing some boundaries. Not easy, but will make it work for my son or daughter...
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