TTC After a Loss

This is goodbye.

I wasn't going to post anything at all because I haven't been all that active lately and honestly I didn't want to  call that much attention to myself. But, the thought of leaving TTCAL without saying goodbye, without thanking the ladies here for holding my hand and showing me so much kindness over the last few years was just something I couldn't do.

So ladies, thank you. Thank you for supporting me, encouraging me and holding my hand through some of the scariest moments of my life. I don't think I would be where I am today without your help and constant support.

The time has just come though. I just can't be here anymore without being constantly reminded that I'll likely never get the opportunity to leave.

I've been thinking a lot about my journey on TTCAL and the "change" has been really something incredible. When I first got here I was convinced and certain that my TTCAL days were numbered. I believed with every ounce of my being that I'd get the chance to leave but as time has passed I think I've finally gotten to a place where I've accepted that a rainbow might not be in my future. As a result, and to fully accept this and rebuild some sort of life with my husband I need to take a step back and just try to rebuild some sort of normalcy. I've spent nearly 3 years, ttc, pregnant, losing pregnancies, being tested or having surgery. I'm just exhausted.

We're not giving up. I'm not sure we ever can TBH. Until a doctor tells me to stop I doubt we ever will. BUT, I just need to not focus on TTC every single day of my life. I need to start focusing on enjoying my life outside this world because I feel like I've gotten completely sucked into something and I'm suffocating under the weight of it all.

Having said all that, I will try and lurk from time to time. I might be back eventually, I don't know. But, for now, I just need to find peace and comfort in my offline life.

Thank you thank you thank ladies. I love you up to the moon and back.
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  • I am so sorry to see you go, you have been there for me, and made my welcome so many months ago a nice one. Good luck to you as you take a step back, and I hope that you are able to find the peace and comfort that you are looking for offline.  ((hugs))
    Me: 24 
    DH: 25
    BFP: 1/12/14       EDD: 9/18/14     MC: 1/15/14
    BFP: 5/6/14         EDD: 1/5/15       MC: 5/10/14
    BFP: 12/29/14      EDD: 9/12/15      MC: 1/5/15
    Dx: PCOS - 8/20/14, Hashimoto's - 10/10/14, Gluten Allergy 10/10/14


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  • I love you lady. I wish you and your husband nothing but peace and happiness.

    You know where to find me.

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  • I am so very sorry to see you go but I can completely understand why you are doing it. You've been an awesome part of this board, and that's coming from someone that has not been here that long.

    I hope you gain what you are looking for with this change. So many *hugs* and positive vibes going your way.

    Take care... And enjoy life.
    I am not sure how to say this without getting a "solicitation" warning so I guess I just say that I am not longer active on THIS site. 



  • **big hugs**  We will miss you so much Pink!!

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    We met in middle school. We got married 15 years later in a February blizzard of 2010. 
    TTC since February 2010
    Diagnosed with Lyme Disease June 2010 Diagnosed with PCOS March 2011 Diagnosed with Celiac Disease January 2013
    BFP #1: August 25th 2013 EDD May 4th 2014 SCH MC October 3rd 2013
    BFP #2: February 14th 2014 EDD October 25th 2014 CP February 17th 2014

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  • Good luck. You know where to find us if you need us.

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  • Oh, sweetie. I hate to see you leave, but I do understand. So much love for you. I hope you are able to find your sense of normalcy. We will always be here for you. So many ((Hugs)). I will be thinking about you and hoping for you. :heart:
    Multiple TTCAL 1IF 3
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    DX: stage 2 Endo 2012, PCOS 7/2/14,  HSG 6/11/14, Lefty open!!
    BFP#1, EDD: 4/27/14, Missed EP confirmed: 9/23/13, R tube removal: 9/25/13 
    Clomid/TI #1=BFN, 
    Clomid/TI#2=BFN, Clomid/TI #3=CP
    BFP #2 CP, EDD 7/12/15
    On a treatment break: 2 natural cycles. Saving money, sigh*

    Goodbye my sweet babies. We miss you so much
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  • Oh honey, I'm so incredibly sad to see you go.  However, I completely understand the need to focus on your life with DH and rebuild what's been lost with all of this time TTC.  This is such a hard journey and I'm so sorry that you've had to endure so much hardship and pain.  You've been such a staple here the entire time I've been here and I can't thank you enough for all of your advice and wisdom you've given to this community.  Please know that you will be greatly missed and I will continue to think of you. 

    Many, many ((((HUGS)))) love and I hope to see you from time to time.  Take care of yourself and focus on enjoying your marriage and your lives together.  I wish you nothing but the best!
    TTC #3 since 8/2012 image
    DX Endometriosis 2/2002 (lost left tube due to a cyst), PCOS
    6/2010
     BFP - 10/18/2012, EDD - 6/26/2013, Baby Girl lost at 22 weeks (T21), D&E 2/15/2013
    BFP - 4/23/2014, EDD - 1/2/2015 Twin Boys lost at 12 weeks, M/C 6/25/2014

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  • So so sorry to see this. Hugs... Good luck to you in the future. You've done a great service to us newbies in helping build the board into the great place for info and support it is today.
    started TTC 3/2014 & got hitched 4/2014
    husbter's a 38 y/o smarty pants phD/me? a 27 y/o cat lady extraordinaire
    & we're missing our darling barnacles:
    May 2014 loss @ 9 weeks, MMC, no hb found at first appointment | edd dec 4 2014
    October 2014 loss @ 12 weeks, MMC measuring 10w after hearing hb @ 8w | edd apr 15, 2015
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  • Lots of love to you lady.  You are a huge support system here and I'm so thankful you've been here.  I understand where you are though and fully support your decision.  I'm so glad you let us know because it would suck if you left without us knowing.  Hugs.

    Me 35 / DH 36
    TTC since 09/2009
    Hashimoto's diagnosis 11/2011 / Endometriosis removal surgery 04/2013
    Other diagnosis: 1 mutation - PAI-1 gene
    BFP#1 9/27/2013  /  EDD 6/4/14  /  MC 10/17/2013
    BFP#2 3/4/14  /  EDD 11/13/14  /  CP
    BFP#3 6/7/14  / EDD 2/16/15  /  CP
    BFP #4 11/7/2014 / EDD 7/17/15  /  CP
    Current  Plan: Waiting to change RE... Appt on 1/16
    RXs: Metformin, Levothyroxin, Baby Aspirin, CoQ10, Vitamin D, Folic Acid, Pre-natal. Progesterone post O.

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    ***Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you, says the Lord, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

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  • I totally understand. You will be missed for sure. Many hugs to you.

    ~TTC #1 Since 3/2014
    ~BFP #1 6/2014 
    EDD 2/11/15
    ~MMC 7/31/14 @12weeks ~D&C /2/2014  

  • I hope that stepping back gives you some room to breath.  Thank you for all of your wisdom and insight that you have imparted on every member of this board.  Take care of yourself.  
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    AMA 35 :  DH 33
    BFP#1 1/26/14 (EDD: 10/7/14).  MMC 3/10/14 D&C 3/14/14
    RE Consult 11/3/14 - AMH 2.25 "great" . FSH 7.10 . Low Vitamin D
    Myomectomy 12/17/14.  Benched until March.

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  • You will be missed. I hope this gives you more time for offline life. (Hugs)

    Good luck with your internship/research into bullying (if that is still a go, and your school got assignments in order)!

    Me: 31 DH: 36
    Dated Since ‘02, Married in ‘06
    BFP#1 05/16/06, EDD01/16/07, MC 06/12/06 at 8 weeks
    BFP #2 08/14/14, EDD 04/22/15, MC 09/17/14 at 9 weeks

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  • I wish you and your H the best of luck in life. ((Hugs)) Thank you for all your advice and support.
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    Hubs & I -29 • Met 5/18/04 • Married 5/8/10
    BFP #1 DS 2/7/11 (Born @ 34 wks via ECS due to Pre-e) TTC #2 since Aug '13
    DX Low AMH (.58) March '14 • FSH-7.5 • E2-35.5 (Nov '14)
    SA- Great numbers • SIS- Clear (Nov '14)
     Cycle 1- Clomid CD3-7 & Trigger-BFP • EDD 1/12/15 
    Ectopic @ 5w6d • Methotrexate Shot 5/18/14
    Cycle 2,3,4- Clomid CD3-7 & Trigger-- BFN
    Cycle 5- Letrozole CD3-7 & Trigger BFFN
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  • Take care. You will be missed.
  • Oh sweets, I'm so sorry to see you go, but hope that you and your H can find some peace in your time away. Thank you for all the support and wisdom! Big ((hugs))
    Married 07/2006, TTC since 2010
    08/2011: Clomid 50mg, IUI --> BFN  ,
    10/2011: Clomid 100mg, IUI --> BFN

    04/13: Clomid, IUI BFP --> MC at 6w1d
    05/13: Femara 2.5mg, IUI --> BFN  , 08/13: Femara 2.5mg --> BFN
    03/14: Femara 5mg, IUI --> 1 follicle @ 27d --> BFP! EDD 12/02/14--> blighted ovum, missed MC 6w6d --> D&C
    4/23: D&C...starting over again, with a little part of my heart broken off
    5/31: Femara 7.5mg --> cancelled cycle, no follies
    7/14: Femara 5mg + brevelle + menopur + IUI --> converted to IVF, ER 7/28 --> ET cancelled due to severe OHSS.
    9/20/14:  Frozen Embryo Transfer --> BFP--> EDD 6/6/15 --> MC at 5w3d 
     
    10/16/14: Frozen Embryo Transfer --> BFN
    2/6/15: Frozen Embryo Transfer --> BFP --> MC at 5w4d
    3/20/16: PGS-tested Frozen Embryo Transfer --> BFP, Living Child born 12/1/15
    6/6/17: Fresh IVF Cycle --> Severe OHSS, 5 PGS-tested embryos frozen
    2/23/18: PGS-tested FET --> BFN
    3/30/18: Cancelled cycle due to lining 4.2mm
    6/21/18: PGS-tested FET --> BFN
  • I'm sorry to see this, but you need to do what's best for you and your husband. Best of luck and lots of ((hugs)) your way.

    Married: 9/25/10
    TTC # 1 since 5/2013
    BFP # 1: 2/7/14, mmc 3/12/14, D&C 3/19/14
    Boy, Trisomy 13, Karyotyping and Genetic Testing all normal
    Hysteroscopy and D&C 6/2/14, retained tissue
    Off the bench 7/14
    BFP # 2: 10/3/14, Blighted ovum, D&C 11/12/14
    Girl, no chromosomal abnormalities detected
    RPL Testing: Pre-diabetic, ANA+
    "I carry your heart with me (I carry it in my heart) I am never without it." - e.e. cummings

  • I wish the absolute best for you and your dh. I only recently started to post here but I lurked forever. I just wanted to say thank you for all the time love and knowledge you poured into this board. You don't know me, but your thoughts, feelings, and advice have made a difference in my life. 


    Me 32 DH 34
    3 Losses since November 2013
    2 Puppies who make me smile everyday
  • You have been such a supportive and knowledgeable presence on the board, and you will be missed. Sending lots of kind thoughts your way as you focus on your offline life. (((hugs)))
  • I'm sorry to hear this, pink. You'll be missed (((((hugs)))))

    4 Losses (2003, 2008, Apr 2012, & Oct 2012)
    All RPL and IF testing with multiple REs = normal

    5 IUIs = BFN

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  • I'm sad to see this, but I completely understand. I wish you all the best and hope this time gives you everything you need to recharge yourself. Thank you for all the support over the past couple years.

    TTC since April 2012

    BFP #1, 10/03/2012 - EDD 6/15/2013 - MMC 11/15/2012 - D&C 01/04/2013

    BFP #2, 04/06/2013 - EDD 12/17/2013 - MC 04/19/2013

    6/12/2013 Diagnosed with Balanced Translocation (12 & 16)

    IVF #1 with PGS: 10/2013: Canceled 9/27/2013 for issues with genetic lab

    IVF #1.5 with PGS: 11/16/2013: Canceled. 11 eggs retrieved, 9 mature & 9 fertilized, all unhealthy embryos

    IVF #2: 1/22/14: Canceled. 16 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 7 fertilized, all unhealthy embryos

    IVF #3 with PGS: 5/10/2014: Switched to FET in July. 10 eggs retrieved, 9 mature, 8 fertilized, 2 healthy embryos!

    FET #1: 7/31/2014: Transferred 2 nearly perfect (6AA, 6BA) healthy embryos- BFFN

    Laproscopy: 10/2014: Healthy uterus

    IVF #4: 12/8/2014: Canceled. 17 eggs retrieved, 15 mature, 10 fertilized, all unhealthy embryos



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  • So sorry to see you go. You will definitely be missed. Wishing you and YH nothing but the best.
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  • You will be missed around here. Wishing you and YH all the best!
    TTC: Since July 2013
    BFP #1: EDD 05/27/2014 (D&C 10/17/2014)
  • I get it PC.  I wish you all the love, happiness and peace possible.  We're here if you find yourself wanting to come back.  I thought I'd really be done now that we've accepted we are CFNBC but I just don't know how to quit you TTCAL.  :)

    Sending you so many hugs and all good wishes.  xo friend. 

    p.s.  I owe you an online tarot reading!  Maybe via PM?  
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    *I am no longer regularly posting on TB because of the fucked up debacle of Jan 2015 when administrators banned long-term members and mods with no notice and completely dismantled a community full of women who cared about each other.  If you see me posting it's only to give support to a poster who needs it or to post something important enough that I need to say.  I am no longer responding to  anything other than issues that affect people who I care about*
    37 years old, MH is 42
    TTC since 2010; Dx Unexplained Infertility; possible male factor 
    August 2012 through June 2013:  6 IUIs with clomid and trigger shot, all BFNs
    7/2013, Pregnant! Unmedicated--we were on a treatment break
    8/20/13 no heart beat; 8/23/13 d&c
    3/15/14 IVF #1:  Lupron/Follistim/Menopur; ER 3/10 resulting in four transfer grade blastocysts, transferred one pretty blast and froze the remaining three. BFN. 
    Natural FET in May cancelled because the universe hates me my hormones were not cooperating.
    6/24/14 FET #1: transferred two pretty embryos; BFN   
    8/28/14 FET #2: BFP, ended in Chemical pregnancy

    Done with medical intervention and getting used to the idea of CFNBC.  




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  • ((HUGS)), Pink. Our community won't be the same. I understand, but I am so very sorry to see you go. 
  • I wish you and YH peace and comfort and that you can find that normalcy irl. (((Hugs))) You'll be missed around here.

    PgAL welcome


    Married 6/11/2011

    Me & Hubby: 34

    TTC journey started 12/2012

    BFP #1 6/5/2013, MC confirmed 6/26/2013 @ 7 wks

    BFP#2 8/25/2013 MC confirmed 10/16/2013 @ 12 wks (D&C 10/18)

    Diagnosis: unexplained RPL, unexplained IF.

    Also have hypothyroidism

    Started TTC again 12/2013

     

    IUI#1:Clomid CD 3-7, Trigger'ed CD 12. IUI CD 14. BFN

    IUI #2:Letrozole CD 3 - 7, Follistim CD 9, Trigger CD 10, IUI CD12. BFN

    Current plan: IVF with PGD. Antagonist - Vivelle Protocal. Stim start 12/1. ER 12/14.

    http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/502498

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  • I know exactly where you're at Love, it's such a hard place to be but I know you're doing what's best for you and I'm glad for that.  You've given so, so much to all of us here, and I'm sure I can never adequately express how much you mean to me personally.  Please take care of yourself!  ((((((hugest of huge hugs)))))))


         

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    Married August 2012. Me: 41  DH: 42 
    Daughter from previous marriage: 20

    BFP 12/19/12: Ectopic discovered at 8 weeks, right tube removed 01/18/13
    June 2013 Testing Results: Progesterone: 31.7, LH: 5, FSH: 5, Estradiol: 161
    Clomid cycles Nov. 2013 and Jan, Feb, and March 2014

    TTC journey over as of the end of October 2014

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  • You will be greatly missed. Take care of yourself and DH. ((Hugs)) I wish you all the best.
    Me: 26 DH:28
    TTC - Sept 2014
    # 1 BFP - October 5, 2014 EDD June 5, 2015 CP - October 14, 2014


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  • ((hugs))  I understand. Thank you for being the awesome person I know you are. I wish you peace moving forward.

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    TTC #1 since June 2012
    Current Status:  IVF with ICSI and PGS
    Genetic, RPL, SA and Fertility testing = Normal/Good
        HSG = All Clear
    BFP #1 12.30.2012  ||  Blighted Ovum 02.05.2013  ||  D&C 02.11.2013
    BFP #2 09.10.2013  ||  c/p 09.12.2013

    BFP #3 12.1.2013  ||  mm/c  01.15.14  ||  D&C 01.21.14  chromosome abnormality
    May 2014:  Residual HCG and retained tissue found
    05.13.2014:  Hysteroscopy D&C to find and remove retained tissue
    June 2014:  Tissue sample results indicate a partial molar pregnancy
    May - Aug 2014:   TTA for monitoring and testing
    08.21.2014:  Hysteroscopy to remove minor scar tissue - the result of 3 D&Cs
    Sept/Oct: IUI #1  Femara + Bravelle + Ovidrel = BFN
    Oct/Nov: IUI #2  Femara + Ovidrel = BFN
    Nov/Dec: IUI #3  Femara + Bravelle + Ovidrel = BFN

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  • I'm so sorry to see you go and know you will be missed here, but I definitely understand. I hope your time away is good for you. Many ((hugs)) and know how appreciative we are for everything you've done for this board.
    Me: 32 DH: 32
    Met: 4/25/2004, Married 8/14/2010
    Off BC 1/2013 TTC (actively) since 5/2013
    5/2014 started testing with RE, me:  HSG normal, normal AMH, no cysts; DH: great sperm
    Unexplained IF + unexplained anovulation (post-pill vs hypothalamic)

    7/2014 Clomid (monitored) + TI: BFN
    8/2014 Clomid (monitored) + TI: BFP #1: 9/12/2014, EDD 5/22/2015, MMC 10/11/2014 8w1d
    11/2014 Clomid + Novarel + IUI 12/5/14: BFFN
    12/2014 Comid + Novarel + IUI 1/3/15: ???

    **PgAL/PAL welcome**

  • I'm so sorry pink! My heart breaks for you too- this journey is just so damn unfair! You have been very supportive of me! I know I'll miss you! I hope your time away helps you in your offline life. I'm always here if you need me!! Sending you so many big hugs and all of my love!
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  • I'm so sorry to see that you're leaving but I also empathize with your situation. I wish I could have gotten to know you better because you've been a great help to me during the short time I have been here. And I see the amazing support you have given these other ladies. There will be a PC shaped hole in the board for sure. I hope you can find some healing and peace and I'm send lots of positive thoughts and ((hugs)) your way.

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    TTC since July 2014
    BFP#1 11/1/14, EDD 7/15/15, 
    MM/C (blighted ovum) 12/2/14 at 8 wks, D&C 12/5/14
    Fur Parents to Mercy, Fluffy and Big Tex
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  • I haven't been here for long but I know what this board will not be the same. Thank you for everything you've done for the ladies here. I wish you all the best!
    TTC since August 2013 BFP #1 1/15/14...MMC 2/24/14...D&C 3/3/14 BFP #2 5/11/14 ... severe pre-e placental abruption our angel born sleeping at 22 weeks Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers
  • All the best to you. I hope you find comfort in reconnecting with yourself and your hubby.

    IUI#3 brought us our dragon baby Z

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  •  We will miss you around here.  Please take care of yourself, and I wish you nothing but the best.  


    ::The sudden disappointment of a hope leaves a scar that even the ultimate fullfillment of that hope cannot fully erase:: Thomas Hardy

    BFP #1: 07/08/11  EDD: 03/22/12  Missed miscarriage @ 8w: 08/11/11, stopped growing @ 6w6d
    BFP #2: 03/26/12  EDD: 12/07/12  We have a HB at 7w!! (04/20/12)  CSD born 12/12/12 
    BFP #3: 08/05/14  Chemical Pregnancy at 4w3d 08/06/14
    BFP #4: 10/02/14  EDD: 06/10/15  Miscarriage at 6w6d 10/22/14




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  • I wish you nothing but the best PC. Big ((Hugs))




    Me-27 DH-29

     TTC#1 January 2013

    BFP February 27th 2014, MMC ended in D&C

    Working on our rainbow!

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  • You will be sorely missed hon- big huge hugs and all kinds of love headed your way.

    BFP #1- 4/2011; DD Brynn born 12/2011

    BFP #2- 7/13; EDD- 4/2/14; Lost DS at 20 weeks (11/16/13) due to cord accident

    BFP #3- 3/14; EDD- 11/28/14; Lost DD at 15 weeks (6/7/14)- cause unknown

    To my angels- I held you every second of your lives and I'll love you every second of mine.

     

  • Wishing you all the best, I hope stepping away gives you exactly what you need. ((hugs))
    Me: 31     DH: 33
    Dx: Me: Recurrent Pregnancy Loss; DH: Low Morphology (2%)
    BFP#1: MC 3/1/11 at 6w1d - EDD 10/21/11
    BFP#2: 5/3/11 - EDD 1/9/12 - DD Born 1/6/12
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    TTC #2 since 12/13
    BFP#3: MC 2/8/14 at 4w5d - EDD 10/13/14
    BFP#4: MC 5/6/14 at 4w4d - EDD 1/9/15
    BFP#5: MMC discovered 8/4/14 at 9w1d - D&C 8/5/14 - Baby Boy with Trisomy 16 (maternal origin) - EDD 3/8/15
    BFP#6: CP 11/6/14 at 4w2d - EDD 7/14/15
    IVF #1 with ICSI & PGS: May/June 2015, ER 6/3/15, 17R/17M/15F
    IVF #2 with ICSI & PGS: July 2015, ER 7/16/15, 16R/11M/9F
    PGS results = 6 normal embryos (4 boys, 2 girls)
    FET 9/23/15 = BFFN
    Natural FET 11/4/15 = BFP!
    Beta 9dp5dt = 92

  • PC you will be missed and remembered. I hope taking a step back helps you and your husband. ((hugs)) THANK YOU for being an encouraging, helpful part of my TTCAL journey. 
  • ((Hugs)). You will definitely be missed.
    BFP #1: 5-14-2010, DD born 1-22-2011
    BFP #2: 4-20-2012, Natural MC 5-1-2012
    BFP #3: 7-19-2012, DS born 3-27-2013
    BFP #4: 9-13-2014, MMC discovered 10-27-14 at 10w, d&c on 11-6-14 

  • Good luck to you as you move forward. Wishing you much happiness.
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    BFP 11/27/14, Blighted ovum suspected 12/22/14, confirmation of MMC and Cytotec 1/2/15
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