DH wants me to give up CDing bc stink is out of control

karenhorning

The Grovia Stay-Dry inserts are cotton/hemp blend (all natural fibers) for all the absorbent layers.  Natural fibers tend to need more water to get clean and are less likely to have detergent build up problems than synthetics (using more detergent / main stream detergents isn't likely to cause problems with natural fibers).  So if they stink (and stink the worst) it sounds like they are not getting clean in your normal routine.  In addition to the usual suggestions (more water, more/different detergent, more agitation/longer cycle, water softener if hard water), I'd suggest flipping the Grovia inserts inside out to expose the absorbent layers to more water flow & agitation.

ktpaladino

So my whites cycle is a hot cycle but it's even shorter than the normal cycle, which I think is weird. I hate my washer LOL. So heavy duty cycle on hot it is.

zaraceligon

The best thing the help to me grovia inserts, was to boil them for a five min, then do a normal wash.

TJ1979

Chickypoo2468 said:

Look TJ, I'm talking to myself.

Haha. That's not unusual for you though.

zaraceligon

Chickypoo2468 said:

The best thing the help to me grovia inserts, was to boil them for a five min, then do a normal wash.

Grovia inserts have pul tho don't they?

I'm been using those insert for three years with out a problem of leaking after been boiled. And I don't boil them often, only when they get barn yarn smell, but doesn't happen anymore. But to be honest I love my muslin gauze flats.

Rrrrrachel

Some are tpu backed but the older ones aren't.

ktpaladino

Yes mine are TPU backed and also have plastic snaps, so boiling would make me really nervous.

ktpaladino

I did a heavy duty hot wash with 1/4 a cup of bleach this morning and am currently working on running them through a few more cycles to get them nice and rinsed. Then off to the store tomorrow to pick up some Tide powder. Will report back in a few days. Thanks guys.

ktpaladino

After doing the bleach I've put the dipes through 4 normal hot washes with an extra rinse an they still have a slight bleach smell....keep rinsing?

TJ1979

It could be the washer that smells like bleach.  Take a dipe to the other room, and sniff again.

TJ1979

And I really only do 1-2 extra rinses after bleach.  It's always been fine.

ktpaladino

Ok so the 5th rinse finally got rid of it! I just started my heavy duty hot wash with extra rinse and the tide powder up to the 3rd line...which was a bit shocking to me bc that was easily 4 times the amount of Tiny Bubbles I was using!

ktpaladino

I'm starting to think it's the size of my diaper load and that's it's too tiny. My washer seems like a pretty large capacity to me...it's not even a third of the way full with all my diapers in there. I'm thinking that's one of the reasons why the diapers were never getting clean enough and why it took so many darn cycles to get the bleach smell completely out.

Brandiewine11

ktpaladino said:

Ok so the 5th rinse finally got rid of it! I just started my heavy duty hot wash with extra rinse and the tide powder up to the 3rd line...which was a bit shocking to me bc that was easily 4 times the amount of Tiny Bubbles I was using!

Make sure you check for suds in your final rinse and keep rinsing until you don't see any suds/cloudy water. You may not need that much detergent. If you have a lot of suds in your final rinse, you can probably reduce the amount next time until you figure out the right amount.

Hope you've finally fixed your problem!

TJ1979

ktpaladino said:

Ok so the 5th rinse finally got rid of it! I just started my heavy duty hot wash with extra rinse and the tide powder up to the 3rd line...which was a bit shocking to me bc that was easily 4 times the amount of Tiny Bubbles I was using!

Wait, what made you decide on tide to the 3?

bumpuser5078523

You should be fine with a smaller load in a FL. The way the machine is designed, they get proper friction by falling when the tub spins.

freezorburn

Tide has a lot more ingredients than Timy Bubbles and maybe even some fillers, so it's not surprising that you would use a larger amount ... But line 3? Seems like a lot.

ktpaladino

Was I not supposed to do line 3? Ahhhhh! I thought the majority of people said a "full scoop" of tide! Ugh oh! There were a few bubbles, but not what I would consider "suds" in the final spin. Crap, so how much tide powder am I supposed to use? LOL

freezorburn

(I think) I said a full scoop of Tiny Bubbles. I made no recommendations on Tide, but I think most people go between line 1 and 2.

ETA I just looked at my post and just said detergent. But I assumed you were still using Tiny Bubbles. Sorry I was unclear.

TJ1979

I knew I should have calls out that secret fluffed for her jacked advice. Start with tide to the 1. Especially if it's a smaller load.

ktpaladino

Oh gotcha! Yeah looking back some others said a full scoop of detergent but didn't specify which kind so I guess that's where I got confused. Well I think I'm going to let it go this time since there wasn't a whole lot of suds in that final spin and cut it back for next time.

TJ1979

himmeandmore said:

There is a learning curve when it comes to cloth diapering with HE washers. I would recommend a strip followed by a bleach soak and then switch up your wash routine.

This is purely what has been successful for me with our HE machines.

I do a quick wash on warm, heavy soil level, with Tide original powder to the first line. Then I do a Heavy duty wash on hot, heavy soil level with Tide original powder to the 3rd line. No need to add extra rinses or water plus options or wet towels, etc. Those are all myths.

Remember too, that HE washers work best when 2/3-3/4 of the way full. So if you don't have enough diaper laundry to fill your washer that full, add a couple towels. I typically add two towels, as I launder every other day.

Like I said, this is what has worked with us for two years now. We have never had any stink issues since using this routine.

No. No, no, and no.

Eta: no.

ktpaladino

^^^^^ Haha

freezorburn

Ugh. Well glad I'm not entirely to blame for the line 3 misunderstanding. I don't use Tide so I leave Tide advice to Tide-users. I do use Tiny Bubbles, though, so that's what I feel qualified to make recommendations on. A reminder to myself to be more clear in these situations.

PipSqueak0313

I forgot about that post.......and I don't have a HE machine so I'm not sure how much, if anything, is correct.

freezorburn

I was trying to ignore that post and hoped everyone else would too.

Rrrrrachel

I didn't even see that post or I would've been all nope nope nope

ktpaladino

@freezorburn‌ it's no biggie. I don't think it did much harm. I'll just do some more extra rinses next time if I see suds but I think they're good. Thanks for all your help.

Rrrrrachel

karenhorning said:

The Grovia Stay-Dry inserts are cotton/hemp blend (all natural fibers) for all the absorbent layers.  Natural fibers tend to need more water to get clean and are less likely to have detergent build up problems than synthetics (using more detergent / main stream detergents isn't likely to cause problems with natural fibers).  So if they stink (and stink the worst) it sounds like they are not getting clean in your normal routine.  In addition to the usual suggestions (more water, more/different detergent, more agitation/longer cycle, water softener if hard water), I'd suggest flipping the Grovia inserts inside out to expose the absorbent layers to more water flow & agitation.

This on the other hand is pretty solid. That's a good trick for telling build up apart from just not getting clean and makes sense.

ktpaladino

No more stink after pees today! However, they do smell a little perfumey and I think I could see a faint rash forming on her bum. So now what? A few hot water rinses before I wash with detergent again? And obviously less detergent the next go-around as well.

bumpuser5078523

Yay for no stink!

I would just wash like normal with less detergent. I wouldn't rinse more, unless you want to. Just make sure there are no suds in your final rinse next time.

unaveragejane

I agree with Doeie. I don't think extra prerinses of the dirty diapers will be as effective for removing the extra detergent as much as rinsing extra after they're clean. But keep an eye on the rash. Some babies (mine) can't so scented detergents.

Rrrrrachel

If you think they have enough leftover detergent it's irritating your kids bottom j would do some hot washes on the clean ones to get that out then use less next time.