rsaj0807I am so sorry you are going through this (no matter what time of year) but especially because it is Christmas. I honestly have tears in my eyes and want to cry for you and your family. We don't have cats but we have 2 dogs and I don't know what I would do if either of them came up missing. Our pets are our children. I really hope Dapper is found soon.
So sorry about Dapper. My JRT was lost for 17 days a few years ago. I searched, did flyers, and did a service that calls 3,000 neighbors in your city. Newspapers also do free ads as well as craigslist. FB also has local lost/found pages. My dog had tags etc and was found 25 miles away.
@rsaj0807 I hope Dapper turns up safe and well. My cat was once gone for almost 2 weeks and she finally came home. I know its awful to have to wait. Try and be as optimistic as possible.
@rsaj0807 I am so sorry about Dapper. My cat is an indoor only cat, he's spayed/neutered (sorry:I can never keep them straight) and declawed... He made the great escape one day out of curiosity and was gone for days. I called all the local animal shelters and vet clinics and made signs and my husband went as far as driving through the close neighborhoods with a bag of his treats shaking it and yelling "himsie" for all of God and creation to hear. He showed back up on the front porch with muddy matted fur, ate his food buffet style, and acted like nothing had ever happened. I'm hoping little Dapper returns home quickly.
@rsaj0807 I am so sorry about Dapper. My cat is an indoor only cat, he's spayed/neutered (sorry:I can never keep them straight) and declawed... He made the great escape one day out of curiosity and was gone for days. I called all the local animal shelters and vet clinics and made signs and my husband went as far as driving through the close neighborhoods with a bag of his treats shaking it and yelling "himsie" for all of God and creation to hear. He showed back up on the front porch with muddy matted fur, ate his food buffet style, and acted like nothing had ever happened. I'm hoping little Dapper returns home quickly.
I did the same yelling!! I also put my dog's favorite blanket with his smell on the porch & a shirt with my smell in the hopes he'd find his way home if close. When you're desperate you'll do anything!!
@rsaj0807 I really hope Dapper comes home soon. I've heard of a trick to help bring dogs home, not sure if it would work for a cat, but put out water with the blanket that you've already put out and (if you have it) a carrier. It's supposed to give them a sense of security and normality.
This further confirms my feelings of NOT being an animal lover...
I've heard of babies/toddlers dipping into their diapers for a snack or just smearing it around for funsies...and you're still having a baby
Actually my third. That's so cute that you've heard toddlers do crazy things. This must be your first? Bless your heart...
It is my first, but I've been around a lot of toddlers. I was actually being condescending first. ----------------------- I promise I'm not trying to be a bitch but do you know what condescending means? To show feelings of superiority: be patronizing I fully felt you being condescending at first so I don't know why you came back to state it?
Not a cat lover myself but pets are definitely family!! Stay strong @rsaj0807. You know we're here to listen.
Y'all have all been there for me, even through stupid shit. Y'all have supported me through the trials of purchasing my home and congratulating me when it was done. Y'all have even helped me through (as stupid as it was) the automatic self-cleaning oven. Rhopa even deals with me saying y'all incessantly. I just don't get these people on here claiming that we're bitches. It really irks me.
It's because there is a condition that exists on forums that is far too prevalent: selective reading/selective participation. People take 1 single comment and use that to form blanket generalizations that they believe apply to the rest of the board. Aka readingizhardditis
This further confirms my feelings of NOT being an animal lover...
I've heard of babies/toddlers dipping into their diapers for a snack or just smearing it around for funsies...and you're still having a baby
Actually my third. That's so cute that you've heard toddlers do crazy things. This must be your first? Bless your heart...
It is my first, but I've been around a lot of toddlers. I was actually being condescending first.
----------------------- I promise I'm not trying to be a bitch but do you know what condescending means? To show feelings of superiority: be patronizing I fully felt you being condescending at first so I don't know why you came back to state it?
I stated it because I think you thought you were being clever and condescending to someone who wasn't trying to be...but I was. I'm glad you felt it, just wanted to make it clear. I'm not sure why you're asking me if I know what it means, when obviously I do, since you fully felt that I completed the task.
What it all comes down to for me is: 1. People who don't like animals--and I'm generalizing here, but to me it applies, always--I don't like you and 2. I don't know why someone who doesn't like animals would come to a thread about them.
ETA: I don't care if I'm being a bitch or not.
------------- Damn it... Now you're making me open my animal grinch heart a little bit. Guess what? I had a cat when I was a little girl that I loved. It died when I was about 11 and I was so sad. Then after college I rescued a cat. I loved her also... I got married and had my oldest daughter. It turns out that my daughter is severely allergic to cats. Like her face swells up and she can't breath. My best friend adopted my cat (that has since passed away) because of the issues it caused with my daughter. So it has been many years without animals for me and I've grown to appreciate not having them. Wow- I feel like I just shared something in therapy. I do hope the lady on here finds her lost pussy- honestly I do.
@rsaj0807 - I hope your kitty comes home soon. We have three cats and I know I would be heartbroken if one got out. They aren't just pets, they are family. He'll come home when he's tired and hungry and misses his warm bed.
I think it is funny that the regs who are called self-important, bitches, bad mothers/wives, miserable, unsupportive, etc., have come to support me over a cat. A CAT! I just want to say thank you, regs, and stuff it all of you drive-by, SS, WKs.
I can't thank our regs enough for being supportive, funny, witty, fast on your feet and all things opposite of what we're called. XOs.
As best as I can tell, it's only about to new people. Once you've been vetted and hazed you're in the clique. It's like a very territorial corner ofvthevonternet where interlopers who have not pledged loyalty or made fun of a new person are not welcom.
@snowbigdeal Snipped "To have any sort of meaningful conversation, and to actually get to know each other, and to build a community, there has to be some degree of intolerance for posts that: 1) ask questions that are asked a million times before or are easily answered via an internet search, 2) ask questions that are completely selfish, without the poster being a regular reciprocal responder to others' questions, or 3) are posted and the OP never returns (which happens a lot regardless of how "nice" the replies are)."
I respectfully disagree that intolerance or rudeness is ever necessary, but I appreciate you taking the time to explain from your perspective. I'll try to catch and give positive feedback to all the newbie sounding posts I can! I'm not surprised that the OP often disappears, I've read how they're talked to.. Just hoping to change that.
@kuchick1 Stop hijacking threads and making them about you. No one cares about your silly agenda, we want to talk about pets and finding rsaj's cat
Sorry! Just answering the post directed to me. I suggested people private message me instead of derailing threads, but that got really negative feedback. It seems thread topics are very fluid.
@rsaj0807 I was catching up on this thread and I guess I said "oh no!" out loud and well the DD and DH (and our menagerie) and I would all like to let you know we are keeping our fingers crossed that Dapper comes home for Christmas (DD is hoping you will get a happy surprise in your stocking).
I think it is funny that the regs who are called self-important, bitches, bad mothers/wives, miserable, unsupportive, etc., have come to support me over a cat. A CAT! I just want to say thank you, regs, and stuff it all of you drive-by, SS, WKs.
I can't thank our regs enough for being supportive, funny, witty, fast on your feet and all things opposite of what we're called. XOs.
As best as I can tell, it's only about to new people. Once you've been vetted and hazed you're in the clique. It's like a very territorial corner ofvthevonternet where interlopers who have not pledged loyalty or made fun of a new person are not welcom.
@kuchick1 Stop hijacking threads and making them about you. No one cares about your silly agenda, we want to talk about pets and finding rsaj's cat
Sorry! Just answering the post directed to me. I suggested people private message me instead of derailing threads, but that got really negative feedback. It seems thread topics are very fluid.
I also hope she finds her cat & said as such!
STFU! You started it with your comment on this thread. Take us or leave us. We don't give a fuck. We won't change, regardless.
ETA: I hope dapper is found! FX!!
I did not. I was on topic and responded to the OP and to the Dapper discussion. I derailed nothing, just continuing to field the onslaught of attacks.
@sharkfarts, at the risk of also stirring things up...for many people, pets and children are on the same level. IMHO whatever floats your boat, as long as you're not mistreating either the pets or the kids.
I love animals. I work at a pet store specifically taking care of the animals in the store because I like them more than (most) people. I know that love is a strange thing, and it is possible to love an animal more than you have ever loved a child. I am very happy to hear how much some people care for animals.
That said, customers frequently say to me that losing a pet is like losing a child. I of course have no idea if they have lost both and understand the pain of losing a child compared to an animal, but it makes me wince to hear this said so carelessly. I don't believe a pet could be on the same level as a human. I don't believe that on the whole, losing a pet is at all the same as losing a child. I think saying stuff like this has the potential to be an insensitive trigger to those who have lost children, like many of the posters on this board.
/end unsolicited opinion. I'm exposed to this statement every day at work.
ETA especially in reference to rsaj, I don't at all mean to diminish the importance of pet family members. They are extremely important to me too and it's tragic when something happens to them.
I think it is funny that the regs who are called self-important, bitches, bad mothers/wives, miserable, unsupportive, etc., have come to support me over a cat. A CAT! I just want to say thank you, regs, and stuff it all of you drive-by, SS, WKs.
I can't thank our regs enough for being supportive, funny, witty, fast on your feet and all things opposite of what we're called. XOs.
As best as I can tell, it's only about to new people. Once you've been vetted and hazed you're in the clique. It's like a very territorial corner ofvthevonternet where interlopers who have not pledged loyalty or made fun of a new person are not welcom.
@kuchick1 Stop hijacking threads and making them about you. No one cares about your silly agenda, we want to talk about pets and finding rsaj's cat
Sorry! Just answering the post directed to me. I suggested people private message me instead of derailing threads, but that got really negative feedback. It seems thread topics are very fluid.
I also hope she finds her cat & said as such!
STFU! You started it with your comment on this thread. Take us or leave us. We don't give a fuck. We won't change, regardless.
ETA: I hope dapper is found! FX!!
I did not. I was on topic and responded to the OP and to the Dapper discussion. I derailed nothing, just continuing to field the onslaught of attacks.
Not every fucking comment is about you.
She was quoting me and addressing me, sorry if I got the addressee twisted, haha!
I don't agree that being grossed out by disgusting pet behaviour means someone is not fit to be a parent...but...
I genuinely believe that people who mistreat or abuse their animals should never be allowed around children - even their own.
They say you can tell a lot about a society by how they treat their most vulnerable members...well that absolutely holds true for individuals as well. It's no coincidence that serial killers usually start out abusing animals. I wish the legal system would take that more seriously.
If possible try going to shelters in person. As someone who did rescue in the past, a phone call is often dismissed as shelters are short handed and overpopulated.
Most have a 7 day hold window for strays before considering them for adoption. So you'll have a little more time esp due to Christmas. If you can't visit in person try liking the shelter pages on FB and most a missing post!!
I don't agree that being grossed out by disgusting pet behaviour means someone is not fit to be a parent...but...
I genuinely believe that people who mistreat or abuse their animals should never be allowed around children - even their own.
They say you can tell a lot about a society by how they treat their most vulnerable members...well that absolutely holds true for individuals as well. It's no coincidence that serial killers usually start out abusing animals. I wish the legal system would take that more seriously.
Sorry - off my random soapbox
There was never the implication that by pet behavior means you'll be a bad parent. She simply pointed out the the logic that pets are gross validates her not loving pets is flawed since kids are gross and she is having one of those. This =/= bad parent.
Makes sense I should have quoted the post I was responding to (I think @SharkFarts reminding people not to make that inference) but now I can't find it.
Just now reading this... I'm so sorry rsaj about your kitty! I am not the biggest animal person, but I had a cat that I got when I was two that was mine (as much as a cat can be owned by a 2 y/o) and I bawled when he died - I was 6 at the time. More recently though, I had a fish that I got when I was 15 and she died when I was 18. I cried. I'm not kidding. It's was so sad. I would hate to lose a pet around Christmas. Fx that you find him.
My lab will steal any article of clothing, blanket, or towel I have used. She doesnt eat it, but shoves as much in her mouth as possible and acts like she's guarding her Precious. My shepherd mix used to eat my panties (clean or dirty), but now that he's an old man he's figured out its a waste of his time, thankfully. Our newfie has never had any interest in these shenanigans. Our cat steals socks.
Furbabies are interesting.
Eta: I am one of those people who feels my pets are my children. I'm their mom, not their owner. I'm also one of those people who gets slightly defensive when people try and tell me how much my life will change with a human child (feeding, pooping, sick in the night, etc...) because I feel like 1) I comprehend how much having a baby changes things. 2) I already have to deal with getting up in the night with a sick pet, cleaning up after them, not staying out late because of them. Some people really do love their animals as if they were children. I can't say it's the same level, but for some it might be. You never know.
My lab will steal any article of clothing, blanket, or towel I have used. She doesnt eat it, but shoves as much in her mouth as possible and acts like she's guarding her Precious. My shepherd mix used to eat my panties (clean or dirty), but now that he's an old man he's figured out its a waste of his time, thankfully. Our newfie has never had any interest in these shenanigans. Our cat steals socks.
Furbabies are interesting.
Eta: I am one of those people who feels my pets are my children. I'm their mom, not their owner. I'm also one of those people who gets slightly defensive when people try and tell me how much my life will change with a human child (feeding, pooping, sick in the night, etc...) because I feel like 1) I comprehend how much having a baby changes things. 2) I already have to deal with getting up in the night with a sick pet, cleaning up after them, not staying out late because of them. Some people really do love their animals as if they were children. I can't say it's the same level, but for some it might be. You never know.
My dogs are my children. Until this pregnancy I was sure they would be my ONLY children. They go on vacations, celebrate their birthdays, take photos with Santa, and enjoy Christmas morning and presents.
They can be a pain in the ass when they do weird and gross shit or misbehave. So can kids. I'm ready for the challenges of both and excited that my fur babies will be getting a baby brother.
Here's to hoping for a Christmas miracle for OP and that her kitty finds its way home for Christmas.
Pictured is one of my fur babies getting an early present this morning. They do not unwrap others presents under the tree, but when given the go-ahead, can unwrap a present as quick as an excited child
Too bad I can't post a video of this morning's early present madness with these babies!!
Sorry, I have been away for a few days finishing preparing for Christmas! Just came back and caught up! 1) I do not keep the crotchless underwear lol I throw them out and buy new ones (good excuse to go shopping?) 2) @rsaj0807 I will be keeping your kitty in my thoughts and prayers. I have been there twice before with two of my own cats and I can understand how devastating it can be. I hope that your kitty returns home soon! 3) Although my Dog may do gross things time to time he is a member of our family and I love him like I would any other. My husband does gross things too but I still keep him around! 4) I hope you all are having a wonderful holiday season!!!
Re: My dog ate my underwear!?!?
Be vigilant!! I hope you find your baby!!
I've heard of babies/toddlers dipping into their diapers for a snack or just smearing it around for funsies...and you're still having a baby
Actually my third. That's so cute that you've heard toddlers do crazy things. This must be your first? Bless your heart...
I am happy to say my dog only eats food...but she is a 5 pound rat terrier.
My coworkers dog has eaten his wife's underwear and pantyhose though...they have a Doberman.
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I promise I'm not trying to be a bitch but do you know what condescending means?
To show feelings of superiority: be patronizing
I fully felt you being condescending at first so I don't know why you came back to state it?
I promise I'm not trying to be a bitch but do you know what condescending means?
To show feelings of superiority: be patronizing
I fully felt you being condescending at first so I don't know why you came back to state it?
I stated it because I think you thought you were being clever and condescending to someone who wasn't trying to be...but I was. I'm glad you felt it, just wanted to make it clear. I'm not sure why you're asking me if I know what it means, when obviously I do, since you fully felt that I completed the task.
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Damn it... Now you're making me open my animal grinch heart a little bit.
Guess what? I had a cat when I was a little girl that I loved. It died when I was about 11 and I was so sad. Then after college I rescued a cat. I loved her also... I got married and had my oldest daughter. It turns out that my daughter is severely allergic to cats. Like her face swells up and she can't breath. My best friend adopted my cat (that has since passed away) because of the issues it caused with my daughter. So it has been many years without animals for me and I've grown to appreciate not having them.
Wow- I feel like I just shared something in therapy.
I do hope the lady on here finds her lost pussy- honestly I do.
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"To have any sort of meaningful conversation, and to actually get to know each other, and to build a community, there has to be some degree of intolerance for posts that: 1) ask questions that are asked a million times before or are easily answered via an internet search, 2) ask questions that are completely selfish, without the poster being a regular reciprocal responder to others' questions, or 3) are posted and the OP never returns (which happens a lot regardless of how "nice" the replies are)."
I respectfully disagree that intolerance or rudeness is ever necessary, but I appreciate you taking the time to explain from your perspective. I'll try to catch and give positive feedback to all the newbie sounding posts I can! I'm not surprised that the OP often disappears, I've read how they're talked to.. Just hoping to change that.
Thanks!
I also hope she finds her cat & said as such!
@KonaiNeto
My apologies to the animal lovers.
Please excuse me while I go work on my new winter coat.
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Why have I not ignored you yet?
I was catching up on this thread and I guess I said "oh no!" out loud and well the DD and DH (and our menagerie) and I would all like to let you know we are keeping our fingers crossed that Dapper comes home for Christmas (DD is hoping you will get a happy surprise in your stocking).
Done! I already feel better. Soon she'll be talking to herself with the amount of people who are hitting the ignore button.
Oh my gosh, what a face! I think I love him and he's not even my cat.
I did not. I was on topic and responded to the OP and to the Dapper discussion. I derailed nothing, just continuing to field the onslaught of attacks.
@sharkfarts, at the risk of also stirring things up...for many people, pets and children are on the same level. IMHO whatever floats your boat, as long as you're not mistreating either the pets or the kids.
I love animals. I work at a pet store specifically taking care of the animals in the store because I like them more than (most) people. I know that love is a strange thing, and it is possible to love an animal more than you have ever loved a child. I am very happy to hear how much some people care for animals.
That said, customers frequently say to me that losing a pet is like losing a child. I of course have no idea if they have lost both and understand the pain of losing a child compared to an animal, but it makes me wince to hear this said so carelessly. I don't believe a pet could be on the same level as a human. I don't believe that on the whole, losing a pet is at all the same as losing a child. I think saying stuff like this has the potential to be an insensitive trigger to those who have lost children, like many of the posters on this board.
/end unsolicited opinion. I'm exposed to this statement every day at work.
ETA especially in reference to rsaj, I don't at all mean to diminish the importance of pet family members. They are extremely important to me too and it's tragic when something happens to them.
I'm a Kansas girl... Hence that obnoxious Midwestern positive sensibility.
I ventured into the Kansas forums today actually- in for a penny, in for a pound.
Thanks for asking!
I genuinely believe that people who mistreat or abuse their animals should never be allowed around children - even their own.
They say you can tell a lot about a society by how they treat their most vulnerable members...well that absolutely holds true for individuals as well. It's no coincidence that serial killers usually start out abusing animals. I wish the legal system would take that more seriously.
Sorry - off my random soapbox
Most have a 7 day hold window for strays before considering them for adoption. So you'll have a little more time esp due to Christmas. If you can't visit in person try liking the shelter pages on FB and most a missing post!!
Dogs eat weird things sometimes just because they can.
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Baby boy #2 | due 4.13.15
I should have quoted the post I was responding to (I think @SharkFarts reminding people not to make that inference) but now I can't find it.
I'm so sorry rsaj about your kitty! I am not the biggest animal person, but I had a cat that I got when I was two that was mine (as much as a cat can be owned by a 2 y/o) and I bawled when he died - I was 6 at the time.
More recently though, I had a fish that I got when I was 15 and she died when I was 18. I cried. I'm not kidding. It's was so sad. I would hate to lose a pet around Christmas. Fx that you find him.
Edited for clarification.
Furbabies are interesting.
Eta: I am one of those people who feels my pets are my children. I'm their mom, not their owner. I'm also one of those people who gets slightly defensive when people try and tell me how much my life will change with a human child (feeding, pooping, sick in the night, etc...) because I feel like 1) I comprehend how much having a baby changes things. 2) I already have to deal with getting up in the night with a sick pet, cleaning up after them, not staying out late because of them. Some people really do love their animals as if they were children. I can't say it's the same level, but for some it might be. You never know.
They can be a pain in the ass when they do weird and gross shit or misbehave. So can kids. I'm ready for the challenges of both and excited that my fur babies will be getting a baby brother.
Here's to hoping for a Christmas miracle for OP and that her kitty finds its way home for Christmas.
Pictured is one of my fur babies getting an early present this morning. They do not unwrap others presents under the tree, but when given the go-ahead, can unwrap a present as quick as an excited child
Too bad I can't post a video of this morning's early present madness with these babies!!
1) I do not keep the crotchless underwear lol I throw them out and buy new ones (good excuse to go shopping?)
2) @rsaj0807 I will be keeping your kitty in my thoughts and prayers. I have been there twice before with two of my own cats and I can understand how devastating it can be. I hope that your kitty returns home soon!
3) Although my Dog may do gross things time to time he is a member of our family and I love him like I would any other. My husband does gross things too but I still keep him around!
4) I hope you all are having a wonderful holiday season!!!